After the loss against the Sabres the Devils need to have a come to Jesus moment and figure out who they want to be for the last 8 games of the season.
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[00:01:01] Hey everyone, Mr. Devil here at Danny D'Anaco, three times Stanley Cup Champion of New Jersey Devils.
[00:01:14] You're listening to The Uncle Pockers from Jersey Devils Podcast with Chris Dan Bobby and Tony The Uncle Pockers. Let's go Devils!
[00:01:45] I don't know what it is that like but I like it a lot.
[00:01:49] Oh, I'm not feeling wrong.
[00:01:52] I'm feeling your love in there.
[00:01:56] Come here and get some sweet down.
[00:01:59] It's always a saddening.
[00:02:01] Having a romantic day.
[00:02:04] Love you so.
[00:02:09] That's a tough one.
[00:02:11] That makes me so happy here at Led Zeppelin and then get through the crux of that and you're like, oh yeah I'm sad again.
[00:02:17] Yeah, that's the problem isn't it?
[00:02:20] And that's why I would refuse to get back on this team pan wagon in any way shape or form.
[00:02:29] I seriously feel like a goddamn yo-yo.
[00:02:33] I am, you know, I'm off this team, you know want everybody gone, you know coaches fired and then they went a few and they look good and you're thinking, well wait a second here maybe things are really starting to go ahead because we haven't seen it through 74 games or 76 games or whatever but maybe this is the week right?
[00:02:52] And then they do what they did last night against Buffalo.
[00:02:57] What the fuck?
[00:03:00] Listen before you decide to stay off the bad wagon, I don't know if you saw the scores tonight.
[00:03:05] Have you ever been in bad way?
[00:03:07] Not only did I not see the scores tonight, I'm not looking at the scores.
[00:03:12] I was going to tell you.
[00:03:14] What here's the thing now doesn't matter right? No, it doesn't matter.
[00:03:18] No matter what you are about to say which I'm sure is going to tell me that the flyers lost in the in the red wings lost and Washington lost did they seriously all fucking lose?
[00:03:27] Fires lost clean.
[00:03:29] The wings and cats lost in overtime. The islanders lost clean and the savers lost clean.
[00:03:33] It's everything we've been needing. They just keep opening the damn door and the devil refused to take a step forward.
[00:03:40] The devil's are open in the door and then right when this is this is fucking Charlie Brown and Lucy pulling the fucking ball away every freaking time.
[00:03:49] What it feels like? Yeah, and you know the fan the fans us we're Charlie Brown.
[00:03:55] We're not keeping up on our fucking asses because you know the devils are just dumb enough all the time to just you know they feel like they have a chance and then they play the way they played last night.
[00:04:07] It's so disturbing in that you had a nice gifted to go Lee and I say gifted because I mean those goals you know whatever they went in they're fine they went in.
[00:04:19] I mean you're spotted too there's a whole bunch of different ways you can play that game and be not conservative.
[00:04:27] You gotta push but you know there's a you could have done something a little different.
[00:04:32] Try to keep that score going and it's just it's a very painful like you said I mean you were texting during the first period and then you said okay you know radio silent got to do whatever I'm gonna come back and watch it.
[00:04:45] And I know exactly what you must have felt because you tuned off saying we are in good shape we're actually gonna pull this off we're gonna win three in a row.
[00:04:53] We're gonna pick up the two points whenever and around just lost we're gonna sit back tomorrow night and maybe watch these teams lose again games on hand are gonna go away.
[00:05:02] We're gonna get that pit for game coming up ready to rock and we have to be the Rangers this time because we're due and then we're just gonna go and then you watched the rest of the game.
[00:05:14] First of all nobody wants that final wild card spot or apparently third place in the metropolitan division let's start there.
[00:05:21] Secondly last night's game I saw more so than I think any other game and maybe because I was hyper attentive to this one because of the stakes and what was on the line.
[00:05:34] They're in maturity level these guys didn't know what to do with a two goal fucking lead and and then you saw it after the first goal the first goal was scored super fast in the second period right.
[00:05:48] And then you saw them the not skating the making the stupid fucking decisions not getting the puck out of the zone not.
[00:05:58] And this is where again I will go back to bashing Tom Fitzgerald out of the under I mean on Luke Hughes and Simone image had really bad games last night they did both of them.
[00:06:15] And that's totally expected and you know what that's okay for our two 20 year olds to have bad games especially pressure games like this is probably since game five definitely the most pressured at Simone images had on them and since game five against Caroline last year the most pressure that Luke uses had on him.
[00:06:34] Last year we have gone over ad nauseam is not this year's team so you know you kind of expect that but here's where I lay the blame because when that happens our veteran guys back there have to be able to bail them out.
[00:06:50] And you know what I see out of our veteran guys when these two start fucking make a mistakes everybody starts making mistakes.
[00:06:58] I mean in my opinion right now on defense on this team Dougie Hamilton Luke Hughes and Simone them it should be the only three that are starting on this team next year that are on this team now.
[00:07:11] They're the only three I don't want marino I don't think he's played he's made so many mistakes I was so up in the air about and look when you have Brennan Smith and John marino and you know just making mistake after mistake along with bad games here and there from the beginning.
[00:07:27] You know you're this is what you're going to get you're going to get hemmed in your zone for minutes on and until you guys are just completely gassed and then you know you I thought there were a few guys on the top six that played really good.
[00:07:43] And then I saw the rest of the team not again not skating right gliding not being fucking you know just enough team of a year.
[00:07:51] And it's like what the hell do you guys have to do they just came back in a third day they tied it now you and at that point you got to be thinking on the bench guys no matter what.
[00:08:02] We got to get one point and we'll go in this thing and over time that should have been the mentality 10 minutes left in the game and it just was like panic.
[00:08:11] There's so many guys that I can go over watching that game that we're so disappointing and then in turn it really makes you angry because you have another handful guys I thought last night that were really working their asses off and we're getting no support.
[00:08:28] And it's like you know this is this team and you know the playoffs playoffs whatever I mean if they make it the way they play like tonight.
[00:08:38] I mean it seems like if this is the formula and they happen to make it in the playoffs when they'll win to the lose one don't win one they'll lose one and who knows maybe I get you through around but it is not you know it's just when the ones they lose.
[00:08:52] They lose so bad I think you just nailed it there because it not only I mean that blueprint was established last spring in the playoffs exactly what happened either one pretty good or they lost disturbingly and they're kind of doing that now in a smaller way during the right season.
[00:09:07] So yeah if they happen to get in which is looking far less likely right yeah you're right it would probably be a tell it would be the same kind of bipolar situation one day they're just going to look great we're like we can win this round then you're just going to get destroyed.
[00:09:19] But you do that in a seven game series against the Rangers or Carolina or Boston you know even the games you show up for you're probably going to lose.
[00:09:26] Yeah I don't think this team has the swagger to kind of overcome that O2 deficit like they did last year they were all confident and just knew they can kind of outscore a lot of their problems.
[00:09:36] And then last night again the goalie pulled right and all I'm thinking is if they tie it here and they can get this point and going over time that could be something that really and help propel this team and move them forward you know even if they wound up losing even if they wound up losing like we pulled the goalie these do we every time we pulled the goalie they score on us it didn't happen this time you know they're feeling better about themselves.
[00:09:59] And they just let it fucking happen again you know and these just like look I like Andre Palot and I know he does a lot of good things but for that contract dude you got to start being offensively I don't know visible his this dude cannot hit a good clean pass to save his life anymore.
[00:10:22] I don't know what's up with Andre Palot but he's not driving any of the options.
[00:10:27] Yeah because I've been wishy washy on him since day one last year and I have come around at times because I'm not an idiot I do know the intangibles he brings I do know certain tangibles he brings I get it but he's also here to score some at $6 million like stop kidding yourselves that he's just block a room guy
[00:10:50] and he's great on the boards or all the other stuff he does like he also needs to perform Andre Palot is still valuable even on this team Andre Palot at $6 million is not now there's nothing we can do about that right so what's the solution find out where to put him that he thrives I don't know what that is does that mean fourth line minutes.
[00:11:12] I don't think it's top six I think we've seen that that's just that's beyond him now that part of the guy's past well I'll get into the other guy first but let's you know next but let's talk about Palot for a second two year 100% right and it also comes down like if I hear one more devil fan go well it's you know because he has that experience and when they get in he's a playoff clutch guy I say last night.
[00:11:39] Hey asshole we're in the playoffs right now yeah where the fuck is plot you know dude I like on that line I thought Mercer last night I thought he worked his butt off I really did he was one of the few guys that was just trying to push play
[00:11:54] Timo Meyer I felt that show up last night I thought Jack skated his ass off last night and was doing everything he could even you know he was putting himself in some white a little bit too much no no no yeah sometimes again little too much that's all little too much I was you can't you can't put the reins on Jeff we get that and I see I even saw last night like a lot of times he'll you know he'll maybe bail on a pass a little early to avoid a hit things like that
[00:12:23] he wasn't doing that last night was taking the hits and he was you know they weren't using up so much on him he was got hit last night I think more than he did in any other game definitely wanted to win the game and I'm not even gonna bust his balls for what a lot of people were saying on that five on three power play that could
[00:12:39] put us up three nothing it you know maybe he got a little too fancy with the puck and so I'm not even putting it necessarily on that as a team though you really got to know that situation
[00:12:48] and you just got a fire pucks on net nice simple clean funnel to the net that's what you got to do there you take that three goal lead it's a whole different game
[00:12:58] when this team plays basic fundamentally sound hockey they're a very hard team to beat but they give their all the wins it's like how many times do you see other teams just out play us more so then we just
[00:13:17] gave them the games like we make so many mistakes it's like every one this year is ending up in the back of the net that's the other thing like it's it's not even but there's no urgency it seems to clean it up like I'm and another guy
[00:13:33] I was saying like those three dudes that I want to see on defense next year I've been up in the air about Kevin ball and I've been up in the air about him for a while right I'm kind of out on Kevin ball you're following up huh
[00:13:46] I'm balling off I'm and I'm telling you why this guy refuses to use the God given talent that he has and the God given size that he has he should be a wrecking pun on very unintended ball back there but he should be
[00:14:10] a fucking monster back there and dude so I don't need you making defensive mistakes when you're not going to at least be hitting and doing the things that guy your size should be doing so I much rather an upgrade and the three guys that I want to upgrade for I don't even know who they are I'm talking you know league average solid responsible smart defense
[00:14:33] defenseman guys that don't make mistakes guys that know what to do in every situation throw them on each of them on a line one with Luke one with Nemitz one with Hamilton you got an off as you think that you know you got your offensive guy you got a nice responsible defensive guy together
[00:14:50] together they can you know really hold down that back end that's what we need and John marino and Kevin ball and Jonas Seagun dollar they're hybrid and fucking Smith are not those guys definitely not Brendan Smith I mean he's going to be out of picture for sure I think otherwise one of the two that you mentioned are probably gone either ball
[00:15:10] marino or Seagun dollar marino and Seagun dollar interesting because that's their kind of the hybrid guys right we don't right we don't have that solid state home the blueprint that want us all those championships
[00:15:22] Lulam Rillos like you got to go guy you got to stay home guy that's it period didn't always have it every year sometimes you know you don't get the players you want but that was basically the blueprint and it's a great blueprint for success so we've already got three horses we can put up for the scoring that we imagine so yeah who are who are those guys that you can just try and
[00:15:39] just train to play different like you could still get the chip in your goals now and then when it really presents itself but you gotta have the mentality of mindset number one I'm the safety guy you know these fucking ticky-tack bullshit stuff they try in their defensive and drives me absolutely crazy
[00:15:58] and you hear dannico basically now screaming about it on the broadcast yeah chip it up the wall quick passes out of the zone stop trying and that you know pass in the middle of the ice and just you know not hard enough passes like just come on play with some fucking balls
[00:16:16] and they don't there so weak and soft sometimes and then you watch them in other games when they really clamp down and they play good hockey and it's like this is what you're capable of so something is whatever it is going on I don't know how it starts I don't know but like it's got to you gotta have somebody to be able to at least get these guys to play the right way for the next eight fucking games at least
[00:16:41] they've lost their ability to determine when to turn on the fun and when to just keep it straight a lot of the games we want if we're just going north south playing hard play in our way maybe get the first goal maybe not but generally they are when they're doing that get the lead you're a little more relaxed
[00:17:01] you gotta a little more creative freedom now now you've got the lead now you can mess around the zone a bit more get a little bit more creative with the goals and that's why we've talked about like earlier in the season just for Brad who is one of the guys playing absolutely awesome for this team right now was kind of a additional goal guy right we're saying like yeah he's going to get the third goal when it's too nothing already or whatever but the whole team was capable of doing that before
[00:17:24] and that's why we're kind of winning big but they knew how to play first and the defense apart you know you brought up that's I agree if you like that just absolutely drives me insane to not have the wherewithal to put a little bit more power behind the clearing attempt
[00:17:40] like yeah bank it off the board take the soft play reset you know there's so I don't know if they're so worried about icing and losing a faceoff like what is it
[00:17:49] they're one of the best teams in the league on face offs like that should be ice the puck if you have to you know I don't know what it is but it's in their own end and it's always when a team just starts press pressing it's like they don't know how to hold teams off they don't know and then the third period I was all Buffalo like holy shit and I said it to my wife I even with the text to do I said they're gonna fucking score late in this game we're gonna pour goalie they're gonna score on us again like this is what's gonna happen and like two minutes later they scored
[00:18:19] and once they scored it's you knew it was over because this team doesn't have any fight and you know there are a lot of guys that I am really disappointed in the season we talked about a lot of them already another guy I don't and this guy I'm also like up in the air like I was with Kevin ball where now I've come on the side that I'm fine if Kevin balls not on this team but um
[00:18:41] her collar should not be up on the second line like why
[00:18:47] like he should not be up there playing with Jack and Holtz that's not the third guy that should be up there and I know that you might not want to pull
[00:18:56] Mercer off of his plot and no sick line but yeah think you might have to yeah um
[00:19:02] how uh
[00:19:03] should be just 3c like he should be our third line center and you should pair him with Andre Plot and one
[00:19:11] other good player I don't know maybe Curtis was our uh or guy like that maybe Nate Bashon when he comes back
[00:19:17] but like you got it that that's where he belongs and Jack and Holtz if you want to keep Holtz
[00:19:24] need to have and Jack needs to be back in the middle and you gotta have another no big guy of
[00:19:30] power forward type next to Jack and that would fill out our lines for next season I think that would give
[00:19:36] us steps it would give us three four lines possibly that would be hard to play against and then you
[00:19:41] shore up the defense but I'm really nervous that Tom Fitzgerald is gonna fuck this Holtz in up see
[00:19:47] I agree with you completely here in general construction
[00:19:51] I can't in all seriousness look at the top six and see why Holtz in there and Jack's on the wing
[00:19:58] it doesn't look right it doesn't feel right and now we've got a season to show that it's just not
[00:20:03] working I agree with you this is a situation now where maybe it is Mercer but now where I was it
[00:20:08] is it about protecting Jack again having something a little more size well between Holtz and Mercer
[00:20:13] they're both bigger than Jack I mean uh Paula and Holtz are basically the same size
[00:20:19] and Mercer is also six foot one A's I mean he's not the heaviest guy but I mean yeah at this point
[00:20:24] why not put Jack back to center put Mercer up there get get another high flying top two lines
[00:20:30] because the bottom six aren't doing anything now they're not giving us energy or a spark they're not
[00:20:37] we're not banging so much anymore the bottom I mean Curtis's R is gonna play his ass off every game
[00:20:42] I think Thomas Nosek has been playing pretty good um I like the energy that he brings uh and
[00:20:47] I like the the energy of third line brings in general I just they gotta start putting the
[00:20:51] puck in the back of the net they gotta start doing something got it um was that yeah they have to
[00:20:57] chip in yeah and you have to chip in point wise um I think they're working hard but they're not
[00:21:01] coming across with the anything the show for it you know how if you want to keep them for next season
[00:21:08] fine but don't put them up on the top six he should not be there well I shouldn't be there Curtis
[00:21:13] Lazar shouldn't be there all these guys that we've seen up there all year long like go find a true
[00:21:19] winger for jack go get a good power forward good you know second line winger and pair them up with
[00:21:26] jack put keep if you want to keep hold keep hold but you know I I can see more done with this team
[00:21:33] without giving the house away just through free agency and trading off like guys like marino and
[00:21:40] ball and getting some return for them I see you know that this team can kind of be pretty much fixed
[00:21:46] without a complete and total overhaul without having to give away the farm I see situation where
[00:21:52] I don't know that I want to go out and get another particular score because we had that into
[00:21:57] fully we let them go and my soap box was that there was just too much right there was too many cooks
[00:22:02] okay so maybe the answer maybe the answer is Mercer of full shot at second line Mercer jacks back
[00:22:10] at center keep hold that's three different types of players right there gives it pretty good look
[00:22:15] and then yeah great with hall in the third I'm great with bizarre down the fourth as far as
[00:22:20] everybody else knows bottom six you can mix and match throw them away grab new players I don't care
[00:22:25] okay I can look at that and I don't I mean I'd like to give the try I mean maybe then you
[00:22:30] do it now and you see how it looks if that's something that you're really going to think about
[00:22:34] for next year but I have no issues with that and I don't know how many teams would be able to boast
[00:22:40] a top six with five homegrown guys on there like that would be kind of impressive you know if
[00:22:47] you can really be a dominant team with only team of my or being that guy that you went out and got
[00:22:52] I don't know if too many teams can really say that which is pretty cool I'm you know what I'm
[00:22:58] nervous about I'm nervous that Tom Fitzgerald is going to kind of not take care of other issues
[00:23:05] on this team because he is going to be all about the goalie I I like in him now to
[00:23:12] A have and Moby Dick like he is just obsessed with the goalie and I'm worried that he's going
[00:23:18] to like do everything he can or give away the house to get somebody in and not fix some of the
[00:23:26] other issues with this I think he'll be alright with I don't think he's going to do that but what I
[00:23:29] do think is that and you see it's a lot with sports and general managers that's going to be his
[00:23:33] focus first so he's not going to worry about the periphery things until that's done and then
[00:23:38] you lose some players along the way and similar to that is kind of what you brought up with ball
[00:23:43] I don't want the organization to fall in love with what ball should be oh he's got the side nobody's
[00:23:50] got a guy this size that can play if he's not going to become what he has to be then maybe he
[00:23:55] does become a trade ship yeah I mean look he played limited minutes in the first half of last season
[00:24:01] he was in and out of the lineup he really got more steady in the lineup after the trade deadline
[00:24:06] last year probably before that maybe after the all-star break last year and then this year I think
[00:24:12] he's played pretty much every game he's just you don't see that like if you saw it where you know
[00:24:19] it was you know maybe he takes too many penalties because he doesn't time his hits right or
[00:24:25] you know but he's he is getting the body in and things like that like maybe you can be like
[00:24:30] yeah I see where he can really become a dominant force on the back end but you don't see any of that
[00:24:36] like he rarely hits he does not use his huge frame to do himself any good and it's like bro you
[00:24:44] have something that not a lot of demon have like start fucking using it you know you could play in
[00:24:49] this league for a really long time if he can start putting it together it's weird because there's
[00:24:54] been a few times during the season I think I even brought it up on the show where I'd mention his
[00:24:59] hands and I was like it's surprisingly good hands for what he's supposed to be and now I'm
[00:25:04] retrospective thinking about like I don't want to see your goddamn hands you know I want to see
[00:25:07] you stay right back in a blue line just crushing people when they come through like there's
[00:25:11] you know how many guys don't make defensemen have come through the league scoring at all ranks their
[00:25:16] entire lives like elite scores for what it takes just to get to the NHL and the minute they get up
[00:25:21] here somebody says stop what you're doing this is what you do now that is how you make it they told
[00:25:27] the story at the Brennan Smith when he got in I think I think I'm still spawning told
[00:25:31] he can't play against him. He came in said coach said what do you see yourself as he said an
[00:25:36] offensive defense and he goes well you're not your defenseman defense defenseman and from that
[00:25:41] point on he was a defensive defenseman and some even this kind of cooked and some even mature into it
[00:25:50] I mean looked up for the Scott Stevens the guy was actually a scoring machine he led the devils
[00:25:55] one year in scoring and then he became the ultimate kind of defender that's a high mark I'm not
[00:26:01] suggesting anyone can be that I'm just you know putting out this. But Kevin Ball is very young but
[00:26:06] I just don't see that in him I don't see that at all like um you know he's kind of you kind of
[00:26:14] forget about him during the game like the guy like that should be noticeable a lot more notice.
[00:26:19] So yeah so that's my point so yeah if you don't fall in love with his stature and what you think
[00:26:24] he can become if you just if I just told you today I don't care who it is we're gonna get an
[00:26:29] everyday average defenseman in here next year to replace Ball and because of that we will be better
[00:26:35] like that's just really what it comes down to. You're right you know and you know another guy who
[00:26:42] I can go back and I watched away Nick D. Simone's plays right this kid plays the right way
[00:26:50] he gets the puck out of his own fast he's decisive with his when he's the puck is on his stick
[00:26:55] he blocks his ton of shots he gets it you know his stick in the lanes he does the right things
[00:27:02] John marino playing like Nick D. Simone John marino can be a great uh you know what
[00:27:07] that what I'm saying doing the things that he's doing he'd be fantastic but like he's the only guy
[00:27:11] doing this shit right uh you know I just he I'd like to see him back you know even like we said
[00:27:18] even if he was a rotational guy I'm but even if he was a regular in the lineup he might be the only
[00:27:22] other guy other than Hamilton that and the kids that I would want. Now think about it this way too
[00:27:29] what if you can get a guy like that on a much cheaper I don't know what he would command one
[00:27:33] something one five who knows right and that would allow you if you could then say get rid of
[00:27:39] this hypothetical trading like a John marino and a Seagant dollar combined at seven almost eight
[00:27:46] million dollars so you get you get the kind of decimal for millions something now you've got seven more
[00:27:52] million to play with to go get a stud yeah so now you got your stud stay at home you got decimal
[00:27:57] and you got the three offensive guys we talked about and you just got to fill one more guy who's a
[00:28:01] bottom six defense that could be one of the people we have left it could be a takah or whoever
[00:28:07] they know I like it potentially build a defense with that yeah and that would be a if they play
[00:28:12] the right way would be considerably better than the defense that we have right now because you know
[00:28:17] it's just even in the maple leaf game like I know they locked it down but they in the third they've
[00:28:22] really kind of locked it down more to a puck possession than they did by playing a defensive scheme
[00:28:26] they played skated their asses off but they love games like that against teams like Toronto
[00:28:31] you want to go north south all night the devils are like we'll do it with you know you're not you
[00:28:36] know it's when it comes to playing the teams like the Rangers and the Hurricanes that you know
[00:28:40] clog up the middle and they hit you a lot and we don't know how to overcome and this this might sound
[00:28:44] weird but like I don't want the litmus test to be beating Toronto because Toronto has kind of been
[00:28:50] that team yeah they're all fire and fun but they're not getting any championships out of it they're
[00:28:55] not winning and we could beat those teams we have trouble with the teams that you would look at
[00:28:59] and say scary Stanley Cup team Florida Carolina Rangers right now you know avalanche from the west
[00:29:06] and we have to get built like that more you know that's the model the Knights you know you have to
[00:29:11] get size if you want to go out and get that big stud defenseman you know like he said if you have
[00:29:16] the money you know that'd be awesome another way to save some money is not going trade Alex Holtz
[00:29:22] and whatever else you want for Jacob Markstrom sign a free agent I keep talking about Lorraine
[00:29:28] Persuade I think he would beat a fantastic fit with Jake Allen he's getting like 1.75 from Winnipeg
[00:29:34] as a Colorado box backup right now what could you get him for it 3 million you know if we can listen
[00:29:41] we've seen what average goal tending and I say that lightly because Jake Allen has actually given us
[00:29:47] above average goal tending right but we've seen what making a few key saves can do so if we don't
[00:29:53] have to leverage giving up you know a ton of prospects and people and sign somebody that's going to
[00:29:58] make the stops you should stop kind of like last year V had a good year you never record setting
[00:30:04] year he was still mid ranks goal tender right but he made a few of the saves enough for the team to go on
[00:30:11] 112 point season so it's possible that you could get a guy like that more on the cheap and then
[00:30:18] if you want to really burn it down a year later when that free agency class comes in then you could
[00:30:23] spend the money and not give up anybody as far as Alex Holtz again this is a situation where
[00:30:31] giving the kids some confidence you're giving them some proper playing time it's paying dividends
[00:30:36] Mercer is going to be on year four next year right at the great sophomore year up and down
[00:30:41] year this year but again this has been one of those years where I just feel like a lot of players
[00:30:45] don't know what their role is and Mercer's so super smart maybe he's the next guy that you guys
[00:30:50] just tap him on the back and say we're not bringing anybody in to save us we need you to go up there
[00:30:56] with your offensive capabilities and your hockey sense you know to not make huge mistakes and
[00:31:01] be on the second line all year I think that's I don't know how the conversations go I'm just saying
[00:31:06] like right it's but that's a great hockey player he is a great hockey player and I know Alex Holtz
[00:31:11] is extremely polarizing figure amongst double fans you know I think you know this is the first
[00:31:17] year of this kid you know making the team playing every game I like what I've seen from Alex Holtz
[00:31:23] I think you know what it is more so I think I see a lot of potential in Alex Holtz like
[00:31:27] I see him getting better and I see him really becoming the kind of guy that can help this team
[00:31:34] make a run when they're ready to do it any year or two and I think he can be a guy you couldn't
[00:31:40] be more right I mean again all year I've been preaching he's a different look that's what it comes
[00:31:44] down to you can't have you know 12 players all playing the same way so Alex Holtz has shortcomings
[00:31:49] absolutely he's also very young right and he needs some time to learn but he can be that guy who's
[00:31:56] kind of again not the razzle dazzle on the line put the guy who types down the wing get you 40 goals
[00:32:02] and just that's what you need the a line wasn't constructed perfectly it just worked out
[00:32:07] yeah right and I don't understand why people are so easy to forgive every mistake that
[00:32:14] Nemitzchen used me but they're not when it comes to Alex Holtz they're in the exact same position
[00:32:19] I know it took Alex Holtz a little longer to get there but you know they really are he's a
[00:32:24] rookie this year I mean they're almost in the same position you got Luke Hughes practicing
[00:32:30] I'm air quoting 24 minutes a night he's playing half the game of experience a night yeah and Holtz
[00:32:36] was getting six minutes of experience a night you're not gonna project at the same level at the
[00:32:41] same pace but he needs reps he's getting reps he's not scoring as much as he was when he had less
[00:32:48] but you know he's not the demon everyone makes him out to be no and I think he has like I said a ton
[00:32:54] of potential and I'd like to kind of see that develop a little bit in Jersey um you know I again
[00:33:01] we're not talking about we're talking about keeping the guys that we have because a lot of these
[00:33:05] guys too like Palat has a no trade clause like unless he okayed a trade you're stuck with
[00:33:12] the Andre Palat for the next few years and you know unless you just cut him and paid dead money to
[00:33:18] him but other than that he's in your lineup so you got him make it work is that still half the
[00:33:23] salary stays on the books that how it works but for twice the term I think he's got two years left
[00:33:28] from six million it'll be three million on the books for four years yeah I think that's exactly
[00:33:32] at the salary cap these days isn't terribly awful I don't as much as I'm not appreciating what he's
[00:33:39] doing currently I still would rather him be on this team but again in a better role and part of
[00:33:46] that's up to Andre to figure out yeah you know what I don't have what I used to have what can I really
[00:33:51] do for this team right now yeah just he's not been the player he was in Tampa Bay at all uh and you
[00:33:59] know he got what you said about you know wait till playoff time this is the devil's playoff time
[00:34:05] there might not be a regular playoff time so if you're not showing me now and you didn't show it last
[00:34:10] oh well we have a couple good games in the playoffs right put on yeah I mean that game is getting
[00:34:14] over Rangers was a great game for that was you know plot all over that game yeah and you know
[00:34:19] but that's what we need now you know like uh you know the power play again last night nothing you
[00:34:25] know you gotta you know when you and here's the other thing like I know that our guys and our
[00:34:31] our big guns are great and skilled but this year especially none of them have any type of clutch
[00:34:40] gene at all none of them the games have been on of a line or on their stick multiple times every
[00:34:48] one of them I'm talking Nico Hescher just for Brad Jack you each had their moments but your wife as
[00:34:53] as a kind of a long term look where's the clutch gene you know you need guys especially this time
[00:35:00] a year to have that clutch gene you know when that goalie when when Alan was pulled last night
[00:35:06] you know the the teams that have it they scored that goal and they get that game over time and
[00:35:10] even if they lose they pick up a point and they hold their head up like where is our clutch like
[00:35:15] we don't have it we joked about this but I mean have we have scored an empty net goal right like
[00:35:21] I really can't remember one oh yeah we have okay oh did oh yeah yeah the last two second goal
[00:35:29] was an empty netter no no no with our goalie pulled trying to tie the game we literally haven't right
[00:35:35] I don't think we have no I can't really not this year that's crazy because they were so good at it
[00:35:40] yeah you had a big part of all their comeback wins yeah you know and you take the guys we lost last
[00:35:47] year and even if it's just one or two little elements that they brought this team has not been
[00:35:53] able to compensate for them and I'll say Damon Severson Damon Severson I'm fine with his
[00:35:59] defensive game not being here but you know what I miss there was nobody better than that the stretch
[00:36:04] pass then Damon Severson like this dude would hit guys from behind his own goal line in the neutral
[00:36:11] zone set him off to a breakaway last year we saw tons of times nobody can hit the fucking
[00:36:16] stress pass this year how many times have you did you see a long stretch pass it's set a guy off
[00:36:21] we don't do it that much because we don't have dies that can and Damon Severson brought that
[00:36:26] you know Ryan Graves was just solid responsibly you know new one to pitch in but he was very solid
[00:36:33] responsibly I mean I'm what's a force to say he made a game saving block a night yeah yeah
[00:36:40] I mean he might be an exaggeration but he felt like cleaning out the trees a lot more than the
[00:36:44] guys that we have are John marino again I don't know what the hell is up with him and he seems completely
[00:36:50] fucking lost this year see another victim of shuffling and just not pairing up well maybe I'd like
[00:36:57] to believe that with the right partner marino's a solid hockey player and then he would serve us
[00:37:03] for a while but that doesn't matter right now what matters right now is you have to look at
[00:37:08] what this team is now and where he fixes and there's a lot of teams who love to get marino
[00:37:12] yeah so it could be a hockey trade you know just something that works out normal yeah worked out
[00:37:17] for you works out for us and maybe he can go and have a you know good year just or good career
[00:37:23] with somebody else and if it's here I hope it works but you know this year's just shown me nothing
[00:37:28] and you know just our whole just certain guys like you know the even again I get I put a
[00:37:35] stupid pull-off on X today you know just like what the season actually well yeah with the season
[00:37:40] basically over how much faith the devil fans have that Tom Fitzgerald can fix the deficiencies on this
[00:37:46] team and it was a little more than a coin flip last time I looked like that yes most devil fans are
[00:37:51] confident that he will I saw about 55 45 maybe or 60 yeah yeah so so devil fans have you know
[00:38:00] he has the majority of devil fans still believing in him um and I come I'm one of the lead lost my
[00:38:07] freaking train of thought doesn't matter I'll go with my train of thought but I am one of them I do
[00:38:12] I think that um again he's looked at what worked this year and what didn't and I think he's
[00:38:19] fully aware of the fact that he delayed in certain moves that really could have helped turn this
[00:38:25] to around now again since the moves you can still look at our record and that might not be exactly
[00:38:30] where you want it to be but if this were done 30 days earlier these random games like the Buffalo
[00:38:38] where you wound up losing they might have been the exception and the blip and you move past this I'm
[00:38:43] actually very I'm very positive about the week coming up despite I'm not saying I can make
[00:38:47] the playoffs but this week I actually am very positive about it well I'll ask you to explain that
[00:38:53] because I don't even know what the schedule is but once I could I remember my thought and when I put
[00:38:56] that and I somebody did write um in that they hey look man we're only four points or three points
[00:39:04] out of a wildcard spot they were incorrect we were five at minimum five okay so they wrote they wrote
[00:39:10] four I think and four points out of a wildcard spot like this is doable I still believe
[00:39:15] and I just you know wrote back like I've just been had my heart ripped out too many times you know
[00:39:19] just I can't do it now but like you're saying you're optimistic about this but but my point is
[00:39:25] also this like this team I don't know if they would you know depending on who they play like why
[00:39:32] if they even made it I don't know if they can get to that next level which is why I don't think
[00:39:38] they're gonna make it because like last night was the example man if you have another level like
[00:39:43] you needed to kick it into that when they scored that goal and last year's team I believe probably
[00:39:49] what it got in that goal at the end you had another level you would have realized you were up to
[00:39:54] nothing and you would have absolutely controlled that game you're right you would have played a smart
[00:39:59] road game and just controlled the rest of the way for the record I was watching the score
[00:40:04] save I didn't realize this was gonna happen virtue of Washington's overtime loss and Philly's
[00:40:10] clean loss Washington has jumped to third in the Metro Philly is now the second wildcard but we are
[00:40:16] still six points out of the second wildcard so wait we are six six points that were never kept as
[00:40:22] of right now we're six so it was five this morning it's not how it was the bonus point so
[00:40:28] if the flyers continue to lose and let's suggest they will let's this is it they're going they're
[00:40:32] tanking right the problem is you still got Detroit above you and the outliers but there is still a path
[00:40:40] but six points um we played one less game than the flyers too yeah it's not happening we're
[00:40:49] not getting into all that right now but it is interesting that the Washington capitals are now
[00:40:53] third in the Metro all right well I'm gonna read this little draft Kings ad then you're gonna tell me
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[00:43:01] the crown is yours so a nice no overeated thanks dude it's good so what do you got for me Bobby
[00:43:08] before I go into the week are we not doing our accountability and predictions because the other
[00:43:14] guys aren't here or yes because I figured we'll do a show Tuesday before the penguins game which
[00:43:20] is our next game so we'll do our accountability and predictions for Tuesday okay okay so wait
[00:43:26] just before you get into that what was the question you wanted to ask me about a soft restaurant
[00:43:31] opening oh yes okay so very bizarre situation right so my wife was working a retail establishment
[00:43:39] next store to a new bar that's going up where an old bar wasn't this is what happened at the ocean
[00:43:45] coming mall no so there's a tool restore there and it was robbed the other day but like they
[00:43:52] broke in from the other store like and they had drills and like little torches and shit and they
[00:43:56] broke into the safe like that is some awesome heist movie yeah I'm not so happy it happened
[00:44:05] like 10 minutes for my house but I just as I was like that's an awesome victimless crime and I
[00:44:11] think this and they got away with it as far as I know that's good I'm off for it so okay I'm
[00:44:16] not for stealing but it's funny was I telling something you were yes okay so this establishment
[00:44:25] already exists in another location it's very popular it's kind of like a German beer hole type
[00:44:30] situation it's not telling us right this is the second one this one's in town the other one's
[00:44:34] kind of rural way off it's just pure outdoor beer garden old farmhouse so he's got a great following
[00:44:40] so anyway they've been doing kind of construction renovating this building for several months
[00:44:44] got to know my wife from working next door comes in and he says hey wanted you you know we're doing
[00:44:50] a soft wash day watch come in for a beer right so she was like okay I'll see and she writes me I'm
[00:44:55] like well um can Kaden come you know like we're gonna go together because I'm here watching the
[00:45:01] kids and then she's like I don't know I'm like just ask him you say is it all right you know so
[00:45:07] goes back over to talk to him says can we come back a little bit after I close the store and he was
[00:45:12] like oh yeah yeah he's like you know we're not really gonna have food or anything you know just
[00:45:17] well yeah you'll bring the family cool so we're gonna family a wife tells her boss she was
[00:45:23] gonna do the same so we go there about an hour later and we just think we're just gonna go in for
[00:45:30] a drink or two we even create dinner right and we get there and the hostess was like three we're
[00:45:36] like yeah they're like oh that's her meaning her from next door so they seat us upstairs with the
[00:45:41] menus and they're walking us up and they're like everything's free tonight you know as part of
[00:45:46] our soft launch you know enjoy so I'm like okay so now what because like we kind of establish
[00:45:55] you can come in have a drink then we asked and he was kind of like oh there's not really
[00:45:59] gonna be food it was the full menu mine is a few things so now I'm like okay so I kind of
[00:46:05] brought up her wife and my god I mean he said it wasn't a menu but it isn't menu that's a little
[00:46:10] weird my but I'm looking around like what I'm here I'm gonna go for it you know so we started
[00:46:16] order we just felt a little out of place oh why but you said it felt a little out of place
[00:46:21] well oh okay so you're going this we were invited I understand okay so again we didn't know
[00:46:29] like we just walked in they're like here here's the menu what are the only ones eating no the whole
[00:46:34] entire place is eating okay and ask everybody how you know the owner there was family there was
[00:46:39] friends we were the business next door which by the way of course we're giving a ton of publicity to
[00:46:45] they are every time they go what we ate we did decide to eat respectfully like we did not go crazy
[00:46:52] you know I'm a kid at a pretzel I just had a small thing but still we did eat it at first
[00:46:56] the awkward then I was like no I'm in they got me in we're just gonna enjoy this tip our weight
[00:47:01] or it's good and we left so that was my question like they invited and then kind of like I
[00:47:08] was not really gonna be through them we kind of saw him he didn't really say hi and now before
[00:47:12] you answer I will tell you that we went back the next night during the regular open and paid
[00:47:17] out a razor tap and ate well and and he did come over and he talked to my wife says yeah did
[00:47:24] you make it in last night you know which we did and he either claimed it in CS or really didn't
[00:47:30] see us but we certainly made good for it and that's exactly what we knew we were going to do we're
[00:47:34] big in the local community here we're always gonna support but the oddity of being told there's
[00:47:40] not really going to be food and then we show up and their food was very confusing to me I think
[00:47:46] he probably invited certain people family close family and stuff to come to eat I met a lot
[00:47:53] of them because they were paying you know it was free when they invited your wife it sounds to
[00:47:59] me like they invited her in for a drink like come in see the plays have a drink and you know
[00:48:07] boy soft you know and then when you guys all went you know I think he might have been
[00:48:13] a little bit like oh they just are coming in for a free meal but if that was what he was thinking
[00:48:20] you completely redeemed yourself by going back the next day that's a classy move knowing for
[00:48:26] well you know how the situation looked how you felt that's absolutely like we also ironically got
[00:48:34] the same server who was awesome the first night and we got to take care of her again for you know
[00:48:41] helping us out and all but again that's why I said when when she mentioned to me we can go
[00:48:46] because it's kind of a big deal this place opening up and it's extremely kid oh that's the
[00:48:49] other part so this place is extremely kid friendly especially the one out in the suburbs
[00:48:54] a little bit it's known for being like if parents are gonna be like hey where should we go for
[00:48:58] dinner night why don't we go there because they're so good with kids that kind of thing yeah so in
[00:49:02] this establishment the first floor is more of the bar and there's tables for adults the second floor
[00:49:11] beer hall kind of idea shared tables is where the kids go okay so again I said well ask them if we
[00:49:18] can bring the kid and then when we walked in they threw us upstairs which is literally the kid
[00:49:23] and restaurant part so again a little awkward I think there was just a misunderstanding between what
[00:49:31] to yeah what what he said and how your wife interpreted what he said or literally gonna say to
[00:49:37] the server when we walked in a door oh no no no we we're not allowed to eat I'm just gonna get
[00:49:42] a jug of my no that sounds stupid they're like walk me upstairs right right so I think it just
[00:49:47] probably started out as something and then it turned into something that it was after work
[00:49:53] during right and we said we're gonna come back in an hour to get my family and I get that but again
[00:49:58] the positive thing is it leads since of course when we'll go many more times I've been there was
[00:50:03] other times you know that's the class he moved you know where a guy might be thinking you know
[00:50:08] he's got a coming in together free meal yeah it was the last thing on our mind right and Jamie and I
[00:50:14] think he's got absolutely all of that but I'm saying what he probably thought and then when he
[00:50:18] can you know of course he saw you go there on you know the other night but he came over because
[00:50:23] he realized you know what these are good dudes there's a class he moved and I got to tell you listen
[00:50:29] I mean discretionary income like we're all watching it right this is not the most inexpensive place
[00:50:35] like my my next check was there are other establishments I can go to an after-repeat often that
[00:50:40] I could have probably said it's you know 20 30 percent right but it's part of the game you know
[00:50:44] yeah enjoying them like you know I know the beers that he brings in and it tries to be a little more
[00:50:50] rare not rare is that I couldn't I mean I'm a kind of crappier guy can find it other places but
[00:50:56] to most people it appears rare so it's 9 9 50 instead of 7 58 you know what I mean no
[00:51:02] things kind of add up over time but again great establishment we did plan on supporting them the
[00:51:08] whole time so I just wanted to pick your brain on that awkwardness because yeah I just think it was
[00:51:13] a misunderstanding that's all I know not a big deal but now why are you optimistic about the devils
[00:51:19] next week okay so objectively I'm looking at the week and despite Buffalo pissing on my dreams
[00:51:29] they played relatively well I do believe that we can beat the penguins yes and it all I agree yes
[00:51:37] and I think that we're due to beat the Rangers for many reasons that we talked about before
[00:51:43] so other than just where do the fact that we haven't beaten them all year they completely
[00:51:49] kicked our asses and it's on the second night of a back-to-back you think we're doing yeah I'm
[00:51:55] going with the love average is did I tell you that Curtis McDermott most likely will not be playing
[00:52:00] in this game which means just wait is he hurt is he yeah I think no you still hurt
[00:52:09] yeah he's been out oh I know he's been out I mean we haven't heard anything I haven't even heard
[00:52:13] he's been skating I have to it hasn't been skating I have to kind of assume but if there was a
[00:52:18] game and I think you throw him out even like we said if it's on a walker with a walker you put
[00:52:24] him out there Smith will take that fight I'm not worried about that okay so we'll lose Smith for
[00:52:28] the next seven five games after that that could be another lesson to see his disguise yeah yeah
[00:52:33] so I just feel like we're gonna attack them and we're gonna bring everything I think
[00:52:39] that's gonna be our Stanley Cup basically so we have that win and then two days later
[00:52:45] we had the senators and we should not lose to them two times in a row okay so I'm thinking we
[00:52:52] might might potentially win out the week and I will play devil's advocate and tell you why there's
[00:52:59] a chance they're not going to win any of them all right because of their due being your only
[00:53:08] main reason for beating the Rangers and then the penguins are due to beat us so we're gonna lose on
[00:53:15] Tuesday okay I already mentioned all the and by and now once you lose where our
[00:53:23] I'm betting our confidence level and are just overall good vibes in that dressing room
[00:53:29] is on the scale of a hundred probably however not about like 51% okay it's very fragile okay
[00:53:37] their confidence all of it like it can break it can it can wax or wane depending on how that
[00:53:43] penguin game goes and they will lose that game because the penguins are due which will then
[00:53:49] knock their confidence level down somewhere into the um high 20s low 30s and then they go in
[00:53:56] in a ranger game where Rempi probably takes a couple of our guys out we probably go through two
[00:54:05] possibly more goalies in that one and we completely just get our asses kicked where our confidence
[00:54:13] level then is at a zero we go into the auto game and we barely show up and everybody has just
[00:54:20] kind of given up and they just want the season over and they can maybe have a reset and come back
[00:54:26] in September Travis Green will be fired and next summer we'll begin the shit show and the playoffs
[00:54:33] will begin and end without the New Jersey Devils now that's just me playing Devils advocate you know
[00:54:39] I might be inclined to agree with you now but not not for why you think because I've never seen you kind
[00:54:47] of wave the pen around in your hand like that so much you look much more intelligent and for that
[00:54:53] I might say you could be right see how easily I could persuade you just persuade by you look
[00:54:58] like a journalist you're seeing it was a question damage all right so you're going oh and three
[00:55:04] I'm going to know that's gonna happen I'm saying that their confidence level is right now
[00:55:10] probably very fragile if they go into the Pittsburgh game if they can get themselves up if they can
[00:55:17] look at each other as a man and say how do we want to go out these next eight games do we want
[00:55:24] to look like a bunch of fucking chumps or do we want to actually make a push here and you know
[00:55:29] at least do something the fucking feel good for the summertime you know if that's the case
[00:55:35] and they beat Pittsburgh then maybe yeah they get a little confidence they beat the Rangers
[00:55:41] and then that can give them all the confidence they need now that confidence level might be at you
[00:55:45] know 75 80 going in an auto game and you're thinking these fuckers came in our building and embarrassed
[00:55:52] us two weeks ago let's do the same with them so I can see it going either way so I guess I'm
[00:55:58] just saying that a lot of it hinges on how they playing in that Pittsburgh game yeah and
[00:56:04] considering the team we saw against Buffalo I don't know what the hell we say anymore yeah you know
[00:56:09] you break there really is it's just gonna be a lot of fun this summer once the off season starts
[00:56:16] officially well officially it's gonna start for us in about three weeks but when it officially
[00:56:21] begins and we can you know have all the discussions about how to fix this team and what Tom Fitzgerald's
[00:56:27] doing because this coming up this summer no matter what happens in these next eight games will be
[00:56:33] the most important summer of this franchise's history so I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw my pet
[00:56:40] in the air now as I say this here because I have a good idea for what we're going to do over the
[00:56:44] summer okay because last summer we kind of lost production on air production meeting let's go
[00:56:49] correct last summer we kind of lost track of where we were each going with how the team should
[00:56:54] be built we wound up coming towards the fall like what's your line combinations all that so what
[00:56:59] I think we should do is at the end of the year we're basically gonna take the frozen files it is
[00:57:04] if you were this is the team we have and everybody's gonna have their lines and I'm gonna keep
[00:57:09] this for all four of us okay and then as we go through the summer because there could want to trade
[00:57:13] happens people slide down or people gets moved so we can't just do it in May and then do it again
[00:57:19] September right so I'll actually keep how we can all change it as new moves happen I like it so
[00:57:25] maybe we import a left wing you think he's a top line left wing I think he's a third line left
[00:57:30] wing and I'll plug them all in so we can prepare as we go until we get to the actual fall and see
[00:57:36] where we all wind up with the team that ended and this can be so the team that ended we could be
[00:57:42] like speculation the first couple weeks right I think we're gonna trade for X or I want to sign
[00:57:47] wide right and then we'll just kind of populate it in there and just kind of watch it grow and
[00:57:51] change as we approach opening day next year well I'm glad that you now officially are the
[00:57:57] producer of the Uncle Parker show this is totally on you I love that you're doing just the one bit
[00:58:02] let's do it no yeah that starts with one catch you to build the fucking website didn't wait
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[00:58:34] it's got a lot of good takes and uh it's got a lot of solid info uh so yeah definitely we'll have
[00:58:39] that going so I think one of the most fun things that people can do is kind of go back to whatever
[00:58:45] is the first official episode that they can download like listen to that download that listen to it
[00:58:51] and then listen to this show and in your mind you probably be thinking that we've got like
[00:58:56] exponentially better but I want you to be honest with us and tell us like how much
[00:59:00] little better we got maybe drop us a comment or two we really want to see some comments we want
[00:59:05] to interact with you we want to get people doing our predictions with us so we need some people
[00:59:09] to have a lot of forms with what's like definitely and uh and it might be worse now who knows
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[00:59:21] let us know what you think about our takes on this like uh you know where do you feel about plot
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