What The Helly?

[00:00:07] Hey everyone, Mr. Devil here, Kenny Danico, three-time Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils And you're listening to the Uncle Puckers NJD Podcast, Let's Go Devils! Let's Go Devils has new meaning today This is, yeah, I mean, fucking, did you guys hear any crazy trade news today?

[00:00:34] Dude, it absolutely is worth celebrating. What a, I'll say shocking, I was shocked. We talked about it so much on this show, right? I'm going to take a picture of us, send it to Ace. Yeah. Tell him to hop on.

[00:00:59] And yeah, I mean, like I said though, Ace did like three hours already, so he might be a little burned out. But, dude, we've talked how much we would love to have Connor Hollabuck on this team. Of course. And because of the comments and kind of how Sonny has played this, we didn't think that was in the cards. So, we all know by now, because we're probably the last Devil podcast to be talking about this. So, we all know the trade, right? Connor Hollabuck is a Devil.

[00:01:28] Going out to Winnipeg is Alexander Commander, number 12 overall pick this year. Dawson Mercer, Nico Dawes, Nick Bukestead, who I don't think was ever going to play in a Devil jersey again. And a next 2027 seventh round and a 29 second round. 29 second, 27th, seventh. I mean, by the time we get to the seventh round of 2029, probably one of us will maybe not be dead.

[00:01:58] So, yeah. Well, I hope not. But the draft picks are nothing. And to be honest with you, we talked about it a lot. Like, we weren't sure where Dawson Mercer was fitting in this team, especially with Connor Brown coming back. Nico Dawes is Nico Dawes. Nick Bukestead is Nick Bukestead. We got a three-time Vesna Trophy winner, a Hart Trophy winner, an Olympic gold medalist for five more years. Connor Hellebuck. Five more years? Tim Wood.

[00:02:28] Yeah, is in this. Three more years? I thought it was an eight-year contract three years ago. I could be wrong on that. I think we're three more years. I think it was five more years. I don't know. Let's find out. Whatever. Who cares? Whatever. The fact of the matter is, Connor Hollabuck is a devil. Tim, your thoughts? Look, I am a math guy. So, Ace was like, math guys, fuck you.

[00:02:57] So, Ace, anytime you want to come on and let me know. But here's the thing. So, math guys value this trade. And the thing about it is the value that you give up to get. Four more years? Four more years, including this one. He's a UFA in 2031. Yeah. 2031. Are we really talking about that as an actual fucking real year? Yeah. Yeah. It comes right after 2030.

[00:03:27] I still listen to music from 1998. I find that hard to believe. Remind me later to bring music up at the end of the show because there's something I want to ask you about music. But we'll talk about that later. So, there are a lot of different moving pieces to this. And I want to believe that we have a general managing team that understands all these moving pieces.

[00:03:52] Because one, because he was suspended for so long, his cap hit went down a certain amount. That to this point, we could actually fit it. And I want to say that Sonny understood. And Brandon Burge, don't give this guy, this 6'4", ginger capologist, don't let him off the hook on this because he gets some credit here.

[00:04:21] So, I feel like there might have been a little bit of a wedge coming to a point where Winnipeg has this. This heritage game, right? On Sunday. So, Sonny saw this. And Braden Burge saw this moment. And there's this wedge where they were like, this is going to be the Friday where we can pull this trade off.

[00:04:50] So, I think that's thing one. Thing two is Sonny fucking lied to all of us. Did he? Did he? Did he go? Or did he bluff everyone in the fucking world? So, let's. So, okay. Yeah. And that's. And that's. So, that's. Well, let me ask you. Yeah. Your opinion. Okay. So, we all know he said, you know, basically I'm paraphrasing, but Sonny came out.

[00:05:18] I think it was even in like his welcoming interview. I think it was like the first interview we did. Oh, on Tri-State Pod. Right. And said, you know, that goaltending is random. That he doesn't really believe in spending the money on a position that is random and does depend on a lot of other factors. So, I'm hearing a lot of people like Sonny's a poker player. He was bluffing the whole time.

[00:05:42] Or, like we have said many times, there are five or six guys in this league that are just above in that position than everybody else. So, is goaltending. Did he stand by that? Goaltending is random. But Connor Hollabuck's not random. Connor Hollabuck is so good that that is worth taking that chance on. It's not random with him. And I think that that might be the way that he thought about this. I, and I totally agree with that.

[00:06:11] And like the whole analysis I've done on this is that Connor Hollabuck is one of these people that's within the standard deviation of what's good for a goalie. But then it was the package back, right? Like we were talking like, I hope Gritzik isn't part of it. I hope something's over. You're getting a little choppy. But, yeah, now we lost you.

[00:06:41] Duck out. Hop back in, Tim. But, yeah, I do. That's a great point that you made before you froze. And now you're just staring at us like a crazy person. But the fact that Gritzik was not in this trade at all is awesome. And it kind of does make me believe that this is step one of a much, much bigger picture that Sonny Mehta has in mind. And I am so excited to see where it's going.

[00:07:07] Because, see, Nico, Don reported on ESPN that Sonny will be on with Rachel tomorrow pregame. And Connor will be interviewed between the first and second period. Yeah, I saw that too. So, Rachel or whoever will be interviewing Connor tomorrow. I'm guessing it will be from The Rock that he made the trip to Jersey already. So, that's awesome. But this is – like this was so unexpected.

[00:07:35] Like we weren't even talking about Connor Hollabuck to the Devils. It was – yeah, I wonder what's going to happen. Well, we were talking about this. But it's like we didn't like what the potential that we would give up was. Everything – every trade package that's come out of New Jersey has always circulated around Dawson Mercer. Yep. But we gave them the poo-poo list of poo-poo bladders.

[00:08:04] Like I cannot believe that this is what we gave up to give up Hollabuck. To get Hollabuck. Like are you fucking kidding me? Alexander Commander was the biggest moving piece in that trade for Winnipeg. Okay. All right. So, we've shit on Dawson Mercer a lot on this podcast. He takes some strays. Absolutely. Yeah.

[00:08:30] But like I very much appreciate everything that Dawson Mercer has done for this franchise. But we always talked coming into this year about having an extra four. Where does Mercer fit? Mata. I have another one. Am I too fucked up? Should I stop talking? No. We are celebrating the addition of Connor Hollabuck to our New Jersey Devils. By all means, drink a lot.

[00:09:00] Is worth. This is absolutely in the realm of worth drinking for. So, but there's a few other things that went into this. So, the Devils had. So, I don't know if this is cleverness by the Devils front office. By like Sonny and Birch. I feel like it is.

[00:09:23] Because it got to the point with Connor Hollabuck's suspension that his cap hit became 8.1 million. And the Devils had 8.2 million available in cap scenes. I thought we were still a little high. I thought we were still a little bit over the cap. No, we're not. Okay. Like, we are cap compliant. And that's what I mean. It's like, did they?

[00:09:50] That's what I mean about the wedge of like, they, I think, I think Sonny and Birch saw this moment. And we're like, that's the day that we can potentially get him. Because they saw this heritage classic coming. Winnipeg's playing in it. They don't want to deal with the distraction. And that's why I wound up with the poopoo platter.

[00:10:15] Well, you know, I know that a lot of people in Winnipeg, I mean, there are a lot of people that are just happy that the drama is over. He's gone. Whatever happens, happens. Move on. A lot of people are pissed off about the return, you know, wanted more, of course. I think that, and then they talked a lot about like the other reported packages that were offered to Winnipeg for Connor Hollabuck from Buffalo and especially from Florida.

[00:10:44] Now, Elliott Freeman said today that it is rumored that Florida offered Winnipeg. All the first rounders that went for Brady along with Rodriguez and Lister Einen. And they turned that down. So how much of this was, how much of that is true? And then how much of it was at this late moment, Florida couldn't do anything. The certain teams couldn't make the move. Sonny stepped in. Hey, we can do it.

[00:11:13] This is all you're going to get for him. You could deal with the bullshit this weekend at the Heritage Classic and everything else that comes with it. Or you could trade him to us. And he okays the trade. And we got Florida, like, I don't know. Like, Florida, for them, that's actually too much. Right. And the fact that Shovel Day didn't take it. The fact that they turned it down. Yeah. I think Shovel Day will fuck that up.

[00:11:39] And there's another trade at the draft that they passed down. That was from Buffalo to swap, like, the fourth pick with Winnipeg's eighth or something like that. And Winnipeg didn't want to do it. Or Winnipeg's fourth, rather. Right. They didn't want to do it, whatever. And so that deal went kaput. And I think everybody else just went about their business. And Sonny just kept kind of the coffers full enough that if something came down the pipe, I can strike a deal and get it done. This happens today.

[00:12:09] This is ridiculous. And, yeah, Johnny Devil, you are right about two things. Thank God Carolina didn't get him. Number one. Like, not only did we get him, we kept him away from everyone else in the Metro. And there were quite a few teams sniffing around. And the second thing about Remy now, that he is now Allen's backup until Hall of Bucks ready, which is awesome. We can actually see him. Mike DeCaro goes. Yeah. I mean, well, that motherfucker is not real. We're going to find out.

[00:12:38] Mike DeCaro goes, this is the, like, dream scenario. We play Dallas. Remy kicks ass in that game. Yes. Otter gets hurt. And then we trade him back to Dallas for a first rounder. Honestly, like, again, there's so many possibilities now. Like, we used to just live in this world of, oh, we can't pull that off.

[00:13:06] The move clauses and, you know, guys in the room and blah, blah, blah. Now we live in a world of, like, infinite possibilities. Like, I feel like Sonny's like fucking Willy Wonka. It's just like, it's like, holy shit. Like, we have, we have, like, the cap is fake now for us. Like, I've seen Minnesota Wild fans on Twitter being like, oh, how are you going to afford Quinn? Are you fucking kidding?

[00:13:36] Right. Like, we've got a six foot four ginger from Cornell and an options trader slash poker player figuring this shit out. You think I'm worried about the fucking cap right now? When I had a former player who didn't graduate high school. Yeah. I was worried about the cap because I don't think that guy knows fucking two plus two. But now we got a bunch of people that understand this shit. And that's what I was getting at.

[00:13:59] It's like, they understood the accumulation of Connor Hellebuck being suspended and how much his cap hit would be. And when that, that, that flashpoint would be for care for, for Winnipeg. Right. In their outdoor game. And it's like, they struck when the iron was hot. And like, I just, the, the, the 7D chess that these guys are playing is outrageous.

[00:14:26] And I cannot believe that we have these people in charge now. Like, it makes it so hard because we, we, we've gone through so many years of dealing with these fucking retards. And it's just like, sorry for the hard R, but it's just like, I cannot believe we have competence in charge. And I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. You sit back, enjoy the ride. Hopefully in, you know, within the next four years, we're raising a cup or two.

[00:14:55] But the, the, the other thing that, that, that this now, uh, kind of a cause and effect of Connor Hollabuck, like you, now you have other players. We see it with Dylan Larkin now saying, I'll, I'll open up my trade list and I'm going to put New Jersey on it. Well, we had the golden boy, right? So all the Americans, of course, yeah, of course we want to play with Jack. Now you add Connor Hollabuck. Plus they're looking at management that is willing to do anything to win a Stanley cup.

[00:15:25] And that is what he basically laid on the table today. We are all in, we will do whatever we have to do to get ourselves a Stanley cup. And if you're a player that is on a team that, you know, or look in the UFA and your team's maybe not going anywhere, you are now going to look at New Jersey as a possible destination. And that is something a year ago we were laughed at. We're still kind of laughed at and we have to prove differently, but all the pieces are there.

[00:15:51] And if you're a dude in the locker room right now, after dealing with how many years of Tom Fitz stupid and you're like, just sitting here, we just got Connor. I'm sure everybody's sad to see Mercer go. I'm sad to see Mercer go. I like that. Okay. Can we, can we, can we talk about that? Let's do a little, little Mercer love. Yes. So that's absolutely fine. You could. Yeah.

[00:16:13] Like, and like I said earlier, like we, we've shit on Mercer a lot, but like he, that motherfucker showed up every single day, rain or shine or snow. He was like the mailman. He came to play. He was, did a pro shift. I wish he gave us more. You know, I, I did always wish that, but I, I will appreciate him for, for what he was.

[00:16:40] And yeah, I don't know. That's the end of my Mercer thing. Yeah. Enjoy Winnipeg. You're, you're going to love the fishing. You're going to love the outdoors. I appreciate it. And you know what? He's going to, he's going to, he's going to, I tried. I tried. Fuck you, Mercer. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to shit on him. He was our Ironman. I never missed a game. And that, you know, what Mercer brought to the team was, you know, solid penalty kill, good third line winger. You're going to get production there. You know, you're hoping for 20 goals, 50, 55 points a year.

[00:17:10] That's Dawson Mercer. We saw him on the first lines. We've seen him up with the top guys. He's not a 40 gold guy, even though we all thought he might hit it when he had like 27 or whatever, a second year in the league. Yeah. We didn't all think that. That's true. But Dawson Mercer, look, good player. Here, Winnipeg will be happy to get him. He will contribute there. He will not be a, an anchor on that team in any way. Nico Dawes, fine. Goodbye. We weren't so high on you to begin with.

[00:17:39] I, I, I, I respect Dawes and, and what we did with him and what we did to him because I think he had some moments. He, you know, the outdoor game, he didn't get a fair shot. He didn't really get a fair shot. And now he's going to Winnipeg. We may not get a fair shot there, but look, no, we said, we sent two good backwoods Canadian kids back to Canada.

[00:18:04] And like, if we're doing this divide, you know what? Like, I think they're going to enjoy it there. I think they're going to succeed there. Like, I think Mercer is actually going to thrive in Winnipeg. I hope he does. And I hope he does. I hope Mercer puts up 30 goals a year, 70 points. And it's just like a stud playing with, with Shifley and Connor. I agree. I agree. And I hope he does well. I hope Mercer, Dawes gets a good shot there.

[00:18:33] And I hope Alexander command ends up to be a very solid Cody glass because anything more than that will upset me. But we got Connor Allibuch. It doesn't matter. You have to give to get. Command was the big piece. Even came out that Winnipeg had their eye on him in the draft. So the fact that we took him, it was a piece they already scouted, had already liked. It just made everything a little bit easier and it still leaves us a ton in the prospect

[00:19:01] pool to make some moves if we have to. So, you know, and also, also don't forget Nick Bukestad. I already did forget Nick Bukestad. Don't forget Nick Bukestad. Like I said, I already did. Thank you, Nick. Yeah. University of Minnesota legend. Yeah. Speaking of Minnesota. By the way, also.

[00:19:28] When all the details were coming out and I was like, oh, my God. Oh, and picks and another player like Kevin Weeks is like and another player. I was like, oh, fuck. Who the fuck is the other player? And then when it was Nick Bukestad, I was like, OK, we still have him. Well, we'll always have your your four games. Bukestad. And then they're like answer picks. I was like, oh, shit. It's going to be like a bunch of first or something like that. And then it was like a second and a seventh. Yeah.

[00:19:56] I was like, I didn't realize that they like I was I was projected to be a 10th round picked in 1996. We don't have that anymore. No, we only have that fucking shit anymore. Now we have a seventh round pick. It's like, who the fuck are these guys? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, you know, real quick be Raquel say is it. So Larkin comes to Jersey. Who are we giving up? Where is he slot in? Brat Hughes. Crits line looks good. But Larkin could center on Jack's wing.

[00:20:26] I don't want anything to do with Dylan Larkin. Like, can we just let this? I said on the last show, I don't want any trades made. I want to see this team cook for a little while. Now, of course, I'm not complaining that we went out and got the best goalie in the world. I was talking about forwards and defensemen because we were talking about Larkin on that. I don't want Larkin here. But maybe Larkin power forward. Get the fuck out of here. But maybe Larkin is part of Sonny's bigger picture. I don't know. I don't think so.

[00:20:56] So I think Quinn is the end game. That is absolutely the end game. I have softened on my Larkin hate a little bit. And I think I'm easily manipulatable. That's why. Yeah, I think so, too. Yeah, I know. Especially when you're drunk. I'm kind of a giant pussy. But so. And again, I was anti-hellebuck because I was anti-hellebuck. You fucking froze again.

[00:21:25] What the fuck, dude? All right. Just remember he said anti-hellebuck before he left. You're back now. I'm back. Anti-hellebuck is where you left. Okay. So I was anti-hellebuck. But purely because I thought of what we'd have to give up. Which was like Gritzok and Dawson and Command and two first and all that shit. But it's like, okay. If Sonny's playing this game and is this good at this.

[00:21:56] Then like, okay. Tell me. Tell me. Like, give me Dylan Larkin. And let me see what we give up for him. Because I think if this motherfucker can play these games and be better than everyone at it. Then yeah. Like, sure. Give me Dylan Larkin. Because he's nasty. Like, he's a good hockey player. Like, I will do that. And I think that the only.

[00:22:24] I think a big reason of why you would go and get Larkin then would basically secure 100%. That Quinn Hughes is strolling in here in July. Oh, wait. Luke. Quinn. My best. I mean, Luke. Jack. My best friend. Dylan. And our gold winning goalie is in the net back there. Everybody's going to want to come to fucking New Jersey. Yeah. So right now. We have. But Dougie. Casey. You have Salia down there.

[00:22:54] You know. That's. But is it even. But is it even that much? Right. I mean. Like, that's a thing that where I'm at now. It's like. It's like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I heard this guy and like, you know, this options trader poker player guy and his giant

[00:23:20] six or four ginger fucking sidekick being like, no, no, no. You will get the poopoo platter. I was like, I was like, I will give the poopoo platter to everyone. It does seem for the short amount of time that Sonny Mehta has been on the job that he is very, very good at doing his job. That is absolutely obvious. We have a one of the better general managers in the league.

[00:23:47] And I think the Jim Gregory award, he's a shoo-in for it this year. Yeah, sure. I mean, we thought Fitzgerald was fucking amazing in his job until he wasn't. But right. And I think we kind of once we saw his formula and we saw how it didn't work and how Fitz's biggest issue, one of the biggest issues, at least in my mind was and we've talked about ad nauseum was just his resistance to making any kind of changes when the team needed him to.

[00:24:15] It was the offseason, offseason only. Maybe on deadline day you'll get Cody Glass. But that was his biggest problem. Sonny Mehta will be patient up until a point and then he will fucking strike. And like you said, we end up with Connor Hollabuck and we really gave up nothing. Nothing in any way, shape or form that is going to hurt this team right now.

[00:24:40] And when I was like, oh, it's only Mercer and Bukestad who I forgot was on the team in like a couple of picks. And Command, like the one asset in all of this is Command because he's the magic beans. You know, like he's he's like, oh, he could be or, you know, two, three C of the center. But it's like, like, am I like a not in a I'll rip this from from Devils Insiders.

[00:25:09] But like Dave from there said, oh, there's our fucking boy. Talk about epileptic. Wait, hold on. Let me turn this off. I got my headphones. I had an epileptic seizure. Hold on one second. What? Look at this. I didn't know he was epileptic. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Ace slash Anthony Corona, the host of Speaking of the Devils.

[00:25:36] You're in my favorite devil insider is now joined the show. But well, I think he took the shit. I don't know where he's going. There he is. Hey, Ace. Hang on. All right. I don't think you can hear us yet. I hate technology. We're going to have a math boy conversation. What's up, Mr. Ace? What's up, you handsome? Wait, hold on one second. I got one more thing, dude. I'm not configured to. I'm not configured to. I should have.

[00:26:04] I should have got all my ducks in a row. It's all right. It's all right. You've. I'm old in technology. Let's go. Let's go. What a day. You have been grinding 16 hours a day. People give this motherfucker money. You're in his chat. You give this. No, I don't. Dude, I don't want the money in the chat. I'll be honest. I don't get anything for that. And it's, you know, it goes to somewhere. It counts. But like, sign up for the website, guys. There's articles on there and stuff. I'm going to go back to being an opponent like these guys.

[00:26:34] I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back to the indie circuit. The indie circuit. It's not the same without Jace. I have to say. I do miss the indie circuit in some ways, but you know. So what was today like? I mean, were you in the building today? You're way too good looking for us, Ace. I don't know if this is. Oh, yeah. Totally. No, they were off today. Randomly. I was trying to get things done in life. I got a load of laundry done. And that was the end of the day. I was like, oh, Connor Halboxd and the devils. I guess my day's over. Done.

[00:27:03] I had a list like this of things to do. I'm like, it's going to be so productive. You know, I'm going to get things done. I'm going to cross them off my list. I got nothing done. Yeah, my life is a mess. But what do you mean? Listen, guys, we got Connor Halboxd. An American hero. We got a goalie, Ace. We got a three-time MVP three times. Don't let this guy up, Chris. He's texting me all this nonsense about like, oh, we weren't against. We weren't against the goalie.

[00:27:32] It's because we got him for ginning and a guy trying to spin. Yeah. These people don't want to pay goalies, Chris. Don't let them wiggle. 8.5. They're like, we can't pay 8.5. And all of a sudden now Halibut's here. And everyone, oh, yeah, this is. You're a thousand percent right. You are a thousand percent right. Everybody. And we were one of them. Especially like. But the cap going up does change a lot of that. But at the same time. Yes, it does. Yeah. I mean, when he got that contract, we were all like, what the fuck? You're paying. It was always a nonsense philosophy. Stop it. A platoon.

[00:28:01] We're going to have 27 goalies. Just stop. If you have all those goalies, you don't have any good ones. Riddick was never a real. Talk about not a real guy. He was Marty. I don't know if you guys talk. That motherfucker is not real. I had Marty on the show. And he was like. He basically was like. He was always an insurance policy. Straight up. Was like. He was an insurance policy. To Utica with Malik. But I mean, wow. This is. It's still. It's still all seeping in. But it's. It's ultimate win now. Can you guys like. I would like to clarify the position.

[00:28:31] That the math nerds. Just hold the L dog. You don't have to be. You don't have to be. An absolutist. You could appreciate the. And all the stuff. Exactly. I don't. Separate yourself from. The tenant of. Oh, we don't. Goalies are so unpredictable. You couldn't possibly. Forget the assets. Forget that. That's. That's the point though. No, no, no. It's the assets. The cap hit is not worth it. You can't allocate 8.5 million. On a single goalie. The position is so unpredictable.

[00:29:00] That is the incorrect. Response to that. The position is like. We don't want to trade. A thousand million dollars. Worth of. I've never once heard. Any one of those people. Use that stance for it. It was always about the money. Now you're bringing. It was never about the money. It's about. It was always about the money. It's about. Who was suggesting to trade Gritzuk and the whole team to go get Hellebuck? I'm sure some. A lot of people were. I'm sure some of these lunatics were, but we can't go off of them. We got to go off sensible people. Ace.

[00:29:30] It's about. Don't leave me alone. I hear. You always. Are you kidding me? I'm just watching. Why are you yelling at me? It's about value. Value. Value. Yeah. Value. Did we get. Did we overpay for something or did we underpay for something? We underpaid for something. It's about value. Okay. My understanding was always the money. Maybe in the. Okay. Let me finish. In the summer.

[00:29:59] The ask probably was a first command. Gritzuk. Mercer. And now the, the, the trade is Mercer and command and a bunch of fucking dog shit. So like, it's about value. And also. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace.

[00:30:28] Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace.

[00:30:56] one of the best goalies on planet earth what more like you did no damage to the current team lombardi's right in and and listen i got a lot of time for mercer i've defended him forever serviceable bottom six guy people had unrealistic expectations it is what it is but like you do that deal a hundred times out of a hundred that is a win now move a guy that says this core is aging that several years have been burned by a prior administration the time to win is now and you

[00:31:23] go and get the biggest guy out there i mean what more do you want and when you saw the return no brainer yeah i look you go back far enough you will find me on this show saying look and it's probably right after the year saying look i know he wants out of winnipeg but i'm not interested in a you know 31 year old goalie who just came off the worst season right now with a new gm eight and a half million dollar cap hit now the cap went up and i actually what changed my mind and got me so

[00:31:52] excited about getting him was seeing what sunny did over the summer my trust went into him where i was like you know what then when i heard about this today like this is no matter what he does from here on out i am on board because he knows way more about fucking hockey than i do so yeah i did say it and i am happy that i was wrong because we got connor fucking hollabuck and and and this is what i've

[00:32:16] always said is like is is i would love all that all of this i would love all of this i would love larkin i love hellebook i want fucking lorensky i want all of them i want all the fucking team usa infinity stones give me all of that i have i have but but the value has to be there we can't we can't how are you arbitrarily uh arbitrarily assigning value i'm not i'm i'm not the one that does that

[00:32:45] i'm the guy that's like that's like that's like hey let's not trade fucking everyone let's not trade rat let's not trade teemo let's wait until the moment is there because we can send a poopoo platter to winnipeg for the best goalie in the fucking world and we just did that the guy impressed me all summer and then he really just put a cherry on top of how good he is at his fucking job today

[00:33:11] nice and and like the this i will forever and i think we also have a a uh not good perspective on what the value of things are because of the fucking tom fitzgerald was so bad at this

[00:33:34] like seeing sunny meta clean up six like in six months of three years of tom fitzgerald's problems that's been impressive it's it's outrageous he's like he cleaned up the goalie clean up the depth and he's like he's playing nhl hockey like the video game on easy and and it's and fitzgerald was playing himself on hard mode so so i have a couple of questions i want to ask you guys curious your

[00:34:03] opinions first is what effect if any does this have in minnesota with quinn use i mean i i personally don't think really much of any like i thought the two brothers were more than enough to get him here people are like oh you know he wants to win like i don't for one second believe that quinn did not believe him on the devils is a legit contender like i i believe that he's believed that from

[00:34:31] from the beginning of time right so now you're just talking about a team getting better and adding another one of you know the usa superheroes to it but i i really don't think it needed to be much more enticing than it obviously already was uh this just could be like you know the last drop where it's like there's really i don't think there's anything to think about anyway honestly the whole time i thought quinn was re-signing there once like august came i was like clearly this was

[00:34:59] more misdirection right misdirection from the wild garen russo whoever once it didn't happen i'm like it's over it's over he's not signing there and he's gonna leave in free agency and so that's where i'm at with that okay i was probably one of the only people saying i don't think he's gonna sign there and um so credit credit to chris he was i i was on the he's gonna he's gonna sound like a

[00:35:24] three-year michael russo report stuff you pretty much take it as you know gospel and especially i've now accepted that motherfucker has garen's balls so deep in his mouth i i think he's not like he's not a credible reporter anymore well i i i think he absolutely is even though he no no he is not he's he has zero credibility you're talking about two different people chris i think you're talking

[00:35:52] about friedman i'm talking about i'm talking about russo oh okay i agree with you on that friedman's the insider right like oh okay okay so we we we we agree with each other we just been talking about helene st james um from the detroit free press she is the the best detroit reporter minnesota i don't know what they're doing reporter wise fuck russo that guy's a fucking loser

[00:36:18] yeah i agree with that but freeman did mention that he got the uh brendan dylan uh turned you know exercising his trade there's no movement clause he said that never happened so dylan was not the guy put dilly put dilly on the bench just like he is like if he's if he's not no no but like if he's not dressing put that motherfucker in his suit he's so handsome anyway put him in his suit put him

[00:36:45] behind fucking luke hughes and be like hey man that was a dumb thing you want to make brennan don't do that shit again all right so dylan is good dylan dylan has a world of spectacular opportunities for him wait oh absolutely he's he'll be fine after he can still play in this league but like maybe not for this team so right so do you think that i know you hate that because minnesota

[00:37:13] wild fans now are their their faith and that some of them were still clinging on quinn hughes is going to sign it's just when the time is right because you know the time hasn't been right yet whatever but their their now expectation is almost at zero so tim does do you did it move the needle for you at all are you with ace is saying you know the brothers were enough i mean the brother the brother if the brothers weren't enough then like what the fuck's going on with their family like

[00:37:41] i think this kind of assured it though i think and and like i said uh you know earlier this shows the rest of the nhl too that the devils have a serious general manager who wants to win and will do whatever he can to win you're going to see a lot more players looking at new jersey as a real destination to try and win a cup and and but are you also like there's there's a level of competence

[00:38:06] that he has that that we just we just haven't seen from fitzgerald like and i remember i bought into the the whole fits we all did who fits magic thing i was like oh and then suddenly that fits magic was gone and this guy was like do you remember during that trade deadline ace you'll you'll remember this vividly when he was like we were like i don't know my phone's not ringing there was so many he's like i

[00:38:34] had to check if my phone wasn't working you could make a mixtape of this guy the guy's idiotic statements like what is that scoring we came in second swiss jackknife i mean the mixtape the mic the mixtape it would go triple quadruple platinum in in multiple counties in new jersey absolutely one-liners the swiss jackknife was my favorite and then i actually i think i told you this i looked it up apparently like it was called a swiss jackknife like forever ago somewhere

[00:39:03] but it was like super random i don't know yeah but we talked about this you're like you're like wait i need to look into this if it fits didn't know there was ever a thing called it i don't think he did i think it was like no he's just he's just fucking stupid i'm not gonna devil heaven i'm not gonna shit on ratio he drafted jack news and nico he's here no no and uh arsene gritzer and

[00:39:25] arsene gritzer so no not shitting on him but um so my next question guys when's hell about playing so have you looked at sorry that's my prediction first home game or second home game after the break i think november 3rd or 5th i mean that's not the break though the west coast trip yeah i knew what you meant have you seen what games on november 10th yeah in winnipeg i'll be playing in

[00:39:52] that back in winnipeg for sure it the booze will rival i think the brady reception in ottawa they'd be awesome okay so you're saying about that that was it's gonna be close i i i give ottawa fans credit for how fucking funny oh they committed to it dude like the fuck your podcast you eat crayons you eat crayons that shit rolling that that i was dying laughing and then they absolutely

[00:40:21] fucking body bagged for him one five to one like i like you you the fact that they they just kicked the shit out of them made that even better for them look i'm a brady guy but even though he can't read that was the only one you can't read your brother's better uh fuck your podcast it was just great it was great and i'll tell you what made it even better was just brady just leaning into it man

[00:40:48] he had no problem being the heel yeah yeah but and then he and then he did what he does he he didn't score got 20 minutes penalties and got into a fight at the end of the game losing five one he did score though um he got the only goal for florida he got the only goal so so ace you're saying uh

[00:41:07] november 3rd at home against edmonton yeah i think one of those games i i i would i i would like to see him get in there sooner but like i i don't know like they say he was training and stuff but it just seems like anything before that would be it seems like the west coast trip would be a wash what i'm really hoping for which i don't think is going to happen is to see poirier get one of these freaking

[00:41:33] four games i mean he's gonna have to get one of them right unless hellebuck makes his first start i mean the sports science guys you can't play jake allen and back-to-backs that's inhumane and and possibly punishable by death if you try to throw a goalie out there on consecutive nights yeah i've heard that's i've heard that's terrible behavior and and no one in the history of science and goalie no we're allowed that you know the game he needs to start right the one in dallas yes i i just it's

[00:42:02] crazy man like he literally was in one team practice he's done like little training sessions on his own with like coaches and trainers and before practice a bunch of times and then like he'll randomly pop up like at the end of a morning skate when like some guys are getting off but like scratches or other guys are staying out and like i always have to leave um to go talk to the other guys like before i actually see what he's doing but he's out there like waiting so i know he's he's

[00:42:31] you know just probably doing what he was doing in the in the practice but kind of at the end of morning can you walk us through a practice well real quick before you walk us through an entire practice i have a question about so so what happens now like remy was obviously nico dawes's insurance policy don't need an insurance policy anymore what happens to remy now we're not no way we're running

[00:42:54] with three goalies once connor hellebuck's ready to play so i i honestly so it's funny there's a bunch of different things i think that could have happened like it all starts with right did so this i'm curious if you guys think about this it's like did sunny really believe all the shit he was spewing all summer right like oh the you know the all the stuff he was saying did he really believe that or was that just a misdirection play from the beginning that he just committed to

[00:43:22] and kept going on because then one of two things happened right he either he either is really playing 4d chess and is a genius and had planned on waiting till when the price came down to something he could tolerate to make the move and just said for however long that takes for the price to come down i need to have goalies to tread water before i could strike or he did believe all the shit that he said and then he was like i saw enough of a sample size that i am now pulling the plug one of those two

[00:43:49] things has to be true either way it makes him a genius right kind of either way okay so i think it's i think the answer somewhere in between and like i'm like this ace i know like you hate the math guys but it's like i don't i don't hate them but i hate when it's a hundred percent and it's like this this is what it is because of this and this just shows you the one thing that sunny did back up is that he did

[00:44:16] say you know i am strong on the analytics but you know there's a tool and there's scouting and there's all these things and this this is something that's kind of outside of the the sort of and i and i agree with you and i'm frozen so you're always i'm gonna just i'm always frozen because okay and everybody's like oh you're in a connection on the farm look i have a laptop from 2017 this hp piece of shit is fucking terrible and that's why have you ever tried your phone

[00:44:45] i'm not gonna use it i'm not gonna use my phone what kind of what kind of savage do you think i am you probably wouldn't be frozen i'd be an unfrozen savage or because i would be because i just downloaded the new apple software and this thing has fucking destroyed my phone so but but but it's the answer the answer is always somewhere in between everything right why does it have to be in between because it's always in

[00:45:13] between the answer for everything in life is always in between there's like analytics are great the eye test is great but whose eye test your eye test my eye test mr white's eye test because his eye test fucking sucks and he's an asshole so the thing that that that binds sunny with all this is that

[00:45:42] he's paying prices for things right so like he he waited for the price to come down to come to a what the fuck is that what the fuck is that i have no idea my okay get to your point so the point is that he he waits for the price to become acceptable for him to buy it right or and

[00:46:10] and that's his commodities trader right but or if it comes to a guy like connor hollebuck and i mentioned this earlier on the show you know um is connor hollebuck not that random guy in that like is there a few guys yes the goaltending position in general and i believe those things can be true and we shouldn't have you know we shouldn't pay x amount of money for the randomness that is goaltending for

[00:46:36] 95 of the league you know but guys like connor hollebuck igor susserkin jeremy swayman you pay them you pay those guys like you know you don't know exactly did he mean everything about the goaltending position this is not just some dude this is a special player that i think and that's and that's what i'm saying it's like it's like yes suddenly understands the value of connor hellebuck and that that non-randomness and and but he also understands the value of the price that

[00:47:06] he's paying and and so when those two meet at a a point where it becomes acceptable for him then he's going to pull the trigger that's what i'm saying so it's just it makes it so exciting the wonder i'm gonna refresh so all you handsome people can see me what what what does he have up his sleeve next that's the fucking the best thing about this like there is a plan and i would love

[00:47:33] to be a fly on the wall to know what the hell that plan is i mean there's there's definitely pieces left to make one more splash at some point i don't think there's going to be a quinn trade i think they're just getting him for free i believe i agree like why i think that's i think that's kind of there's getting him a free agency yeah i think so right yeah yeah so it's like well you have one more kind of splash could it be larkin i suppose it could uh tim did you hear did you do him kind of turned

[00:48:03] me off with the hate reel i wasn't always huge on larkin i was you know in a vacuum and people like oh what about this guy what about that guy and people i'm like yeah does that guy make the devils better absolutely but is that the best usage of assets and cap space out there like because we don't really know what's going to be out there right i guess it depends how teams do but sure sure in a vacuum larkin would he be a great ed i obviously believe he would be but is there something better and i think there's only one more of these big boy kind of things really left in the chamber at this point

[00:48:32] is there that but like ace you made the made you made the exact point that i'm trying to make it's like is this the best usage of cap space and and assets like is that is that are we making the best use of these things and is larkin better than what we give up for him well for me if you're giving up

[00:48:58] futures the answer is always yes this is win now mode trade away the futures so that's always going to be a yes i'm just saying in comparison to what other guys you might be able to get with those same or similar assets that's what i mean by that yes if you're trading futures that's always and that's what i've always said that was what i always said about hellebuck and that's what sunny always thinks about hellebuck but what's going to be fucking hilarious is when we trade amadeus

[00:49:25] lombardi and anthony mantha anthony mantha to detroit for larkin i mean because lombardi was you know why that's funny yeah i mean i i would hate to see lombardi go you know they're definitely not trading lombardi you guys are nuts no i'm not i don't want larkin i like this team i like this team as especially the forward group like i want to see this thing cook with connor in the

[00:49:50] back end and our team right now i want to leave it alone and let's just ride it i forget where where are you boys at with dougie because now i'm like is as everything just propaganda misdirection and he's the next guy that they're like let's get that nine million out of here and what can we do with that oh i absolutely think dougie is on the block and especially if something is being talked about i i well actually okay you're saying eventually if the end game is quinn then yes i think dougie is

[00:50:18] absolutely on the block but that could be in the off season it could be it could be because i agree with you unless things go south bad in when in minnesota like i think billy garan's holding on him i think he will let him go to free agency and you know whatever happens happens in the playoffs i think that that's gonna be the way unless he gets like a godfather offer from fucking edmonton or something where you just get them and as a rental but i think he's ending up in minnesota i think he's

[00:50:48] walking here i think dougie if a trade was to be made for luke now or quinn now absolutely dougie's involved in my opinion i agree but you're saying they're gonna trade for him but you're saying no i i kind of agree so but you're saying like that's you it would make sense that that would be the next guy if you are looking to clear out cap space clear out some of these i mean obviously him and dylan

[00:51:14] but you know and potentially and maybe even a world where both where you're talking about big boy money freed up to make other moves but uh just dylan is not gonna get you you know forget the i'm just talking about in terms of cap space right was he make four million bucks or whatever like yeah i think you're gonna need to get rid of someone else if you're gonna bring in someone that even that eight million bucks and then if you're talking about you know then just dougie i mean that it just

[00:51:41] even in like the lark larkin situation right which i don't know that there's any legs to that but it is certainly an interesting kind of theory dougie's nine million bucks covers him so like there isn't an impossible like people i think people are so dejected and beaten down because even the most trivial of moves seemed like they were impossible to do and i would fight people years ago and they're like oh how is that supposed to happen like oh this is not nhl you know 25 video game and it's like

[00:52:07] buddy gms around the league are making deals all the time just because this guy sat here playing pocket pool for years he's convinced you that it's so hard to pull the trigger on any of these deals the guy did nothing you're right absolutely nothing and he wasted years with his core now sonny's got to come in here and do miracles exactly how many beers did tim have tonight i don't know i've had nine

[00:52:32] um but no but you're exactly correct it's just like it's like the cap is fake if you want it to be fake like like there was just periods of nothing right we we just added an 8.5 million dollar goaltender and gave up a four million dollar forward how did that happen magic that's how no because because we understand we have a management team that

[00:52:59] fucking understands how to do this if we want to add dylan larkin i'm sure those motherfuckers will figure that shit out and anthony mantha enjoyed detroit i'm curious how much um how much or or how much potentially jack was involved i thought about that the whole thing or or just even the team in general like we don't like you need to either either in terms of goaltending

[00:53:28] in general or um specifically hellebuck like mercer's mercer's like jack's boy i think like yeah he's talking in practice he's luke's boy from what i understand they had multiple years like a little uh warm-up routine that they've done for years every single same thing you know every single game uh so it is interesting that you know but he is obviously the the guy that's been you know in

[00:53:55] every single rumor trade involving the devils for the past two years yeah and but i would think that a call was probably made to the hughes boys to kind of give them a heads up and get their feelings for this um because even judd brought that up like is this on his stupid hockey show um is is listen to that bullshit of course i do i hate listen i like aj i support him anyway um or to hf judd judd

[00:54:23] saying something like you know how's this gonna make jack fuse feel like maybe now you're gonna piss off jack because you sent his best buddy away and i'm like no definitely not i i i would think that jack would have had to give the okay on this and him and hollabuck have like this big brother little brother relationship that's kind of cool so i mean i'm sure he was excited about it nobody wants to see mercer leave but it's connor buck and hollabuck again yeah i just really want to know how this all happened it is so interesting right it's like yeah daw's shaky beginning

[00:54:53] then the last two games one goal outings and it's like he was so happy last night too doing the locker room he was great yesterday yesterday was on cloud nine last night he's like yes like back to back one goal outings like you know just taking the number one job like i'm well on my way really feeling himself and then today it was like by the way uh they didn't show i actually saw a uh a closed circuit video of in the locker room beforehand sunny came in and he was like listen guys

[00:55:21] you lock it down on defense tonight i have connor hellebuck on a bird on the way here for the weekend we got to make this doll's guy look good no i'm kidding i'm kidding two shots two shots you can't you can't do that you you're in the room you can't do this two two i'm joking two two shots in the first period like give me a break like why did that happen so i i i play like this

[00:55:45] kind of hollabuck's gonna have shutouts every other game two shot periods he might yeah the last night anaheim got three shots the entire game below the dots three that's impressive that's very very good i i think this team like has played incredibly well defensively so ace i have a question for you

[00:56:11] yeah your boy dylan what do what do we do with this guy like i love him we all love him we all have never taken him out that's a guy that i just sorry i value all the intangibles i don't care what anyone says whatever blah blah guy like that sorry to me obviously much different given the stakes but i know all the charts and all the shit and so i don't like it you can't measure for all the

[00:56:37] shit that dilly brings i know he had a little bit of a rough start i do think he might be a little bit of a classic car and that the engine got to run a little bit before he gets the prime optimization it was only four or five games yeah so um you know what would what would the the the savvy data and whatever else had it existed in 2003 before game seven of the stanley cup finals the charts certainly wouldn't have suggested to put kenny danico in over oleg tevardovsky

[00:57:03] it certainly would not have however they did put kenny danico in and again different stakes and things but just for lack of a a better analogy that's the one i come up with where it's like he brought all these other things that you know did he have some huge impact on the game that you could trace no but like was the building rumbling did the players in the locker room talk about it was there some sort of aura there there was and the results spoke for themselves well

[00:57:32] look i'm i'm on the same page as you rowski fucking sucks no that's stop i'm uh i'm completely with with ace on on the the dylan thing i've been a dylan lover since he got here i the guy's a throwback man more yes and he you know when he's on the ice the energy's there he's gonna stick up for guys yeah he had you're right he did have a rough i do like the classic car analogy um and you might be right

[00:57:59] and i had been saying on this show like just don't trade him for whatever reason because we're going to need him at some point we're going to need brendan dylan this year yeah but is he going to want to wait till someone gets injured or something that's a good question that's a good question um this was fit fit said this that that they did this with him where they're like hey

[00:58:22] we're not going to dress you but i want you to have eyes in the sky i want you to actually this was this was tom fitzgerald when he was when his career was winding down okay okay i got you in nashville and like i would love brendan dylan has such a good understanding of the game and he's actually been on the pdo cast and that's but he is not ready for that part of his career yet

[00:58:52] he wants to play hot no no no he's not he wants to play but like i i think for now i think we could use brendan dylan because you don't think you don't think luke would listen to brendan dylan be like hey man you know you you turned the there and that point and like you know tried to try to go behind the net to to pesci and you probably shouldn't have you know you don't think he had eyes in the sky

[00:59:20] entirely this is several years down the line if you're coming to me and i'm brendan dylan and you're like i'm like fuck you trade me to a team that i'm gonna play on no no i know but like help for now but for now as a 7d i think dylan would be like fuck yeah i'll give i'll give luke some fucking guidance i mean but how long could that last he has to do it already i'm not buying that but uh i what is but oh johnny devil uh when you're asking who dylan turned the trade down to he did not

[00:59:47] elliot freeman messed that one up yeah that guy shot down so he did not we don't know who the other defenseman is there is there even was one we know it was dougie that was it but um it definitely wasn't dylan no so i i joe i cannot joe cade i cannot pass the field surprise no no he should not be driving at all dude no i don't have to drive anywhere except the tractor i know so you go out and drive my tractor no it's probably best if you don't tim probably best if you don't watch some

[01:00:16] hockey i think that there's a game on tonight no i'm in the middle of uh i'm watching uh all right who fucking cares who gives um all right who gives a fuck i'm i'm done who in this league yeah well i just i want to we'll wrap it up i just want to i know ace had a very long day too like all of us but i gotta just ask because we haven't really talked since the season started what has kind of impressed you not about just about the devils like just in the nhl in general

[01:00:44] what kind of teams anybody that maybe you were thinking wasn't going to be this good that looks good or vice versa i think i think that for me the one that i'm probably the most surprised about is like the uh the post the post brady like i thought ottawa might just fall apart and like they're not you know i don't know how they're gonna end up but seeing them especially in when they came to the

[01:01:12] rock and and put a little beating up on the devils um yeah i don't know it could be one of those situations that like everyone could be better off for it i don't know i agree if oh mark is out though long term i think they're in trouble uh that's he's been their best player so i i think that could

[01:01:31] be a problem so anybody else um boston looks fucking they're disgusting god damn it tim give them some fucking love we're going back to that now i'm trying i'm trying i'm trying to help help the second ace into the second game you know that ac the second game the second game of the season i was watching like

[01:01:59] the whatever whoever boston was playing and i just texted tim boston's a really good team they suck and this and that and we went back and forth for a while dude i'm like looking at that roster and it never like hit me like they're just a team i forget about and it's like they have so many freaking good players on that team guys i i would love to be devils yeah not a lot but like some all right would you want jeremy swanman on the devils i'm not i understand we have counter

[01:02:29] no i have about yes look i have the guy that played in front of jeremy swanman do you want charlie mcavoy david posth yes yes i would like a lot of really good you could do that on almost every team though you're like let's just trade every roster they're a little deeper than most but i think they're gonna go so here's here's the thing and this is why like look

[01:02:55] sheldon keith has gotten a temporary pass from me because as of when two days ago okay he he's got he's got he's gotten a weekly pass from me until next week and we go on that road trip but you look at the teams that like that that have not really like the high-end talent that we do

[01:03:21] like we have outrageous high-end talent right we do do you agree with the devils though yes we do jack huge is a top 10 player jess rat's top 10 winger timo meyer's a top 10 winger i think you're getting into really debatable on a lot of these but no but i'll play along okay okay okay so we're getting into is is is look at look at the coaches that are doing a lot with very little

[01:03:49] dan muse in pittsburgh spencer carberry in washington washington yeah okay but they've they've zero center depth come on um just play along with me all right all right go to seattle if you want to make your point go to seattle no no no we we took the lady from seattle she's right they're still having a really good year and doing a lot like the islanders don't

[01:04:18] have but marco marco marco stern what marco stern was doing in boston it's it's these people i think it's coaches that have very modern offensive coaching philosophies that like they they understand how the game is evolving and how you need to have players interact how good he finally froze you know what i don't know he froze again who cares who he doesn't even

[01:04:47] remember the point he was trying to make are you kidding me man i'm just very i'm very excited to see the first hella buck start i can't wait dude did i just you're back now yeah all right you're back so i i mean i was getting into offensive zone philosophies and and and buck sport and cross lot passing and i got fucking so i'm i am now coaching in an atu team uh

[01:05:17] jason no i don't know dude hey we got a jet fan in here you got a good one he says um yeah and you'll enjoy gawson mercer he'll never miss a game yeah brad you will love ross mercer i hope ross mercer scores 30 goals for the jets nice year yeah i hope he does too i i really hope yeah this could be a very good thing for him

[01:05:45] he's also one of those guys that maybe did need a change of scenery where every fucking three months his name isn't being brought up to be shipped somewhere else like this could be good for dawson mercer yeah but it doesn't change the fact that we got connor he loves fishing he's a handsome boy so overall he's gotta be devastated oh my god yeah so amen dawes they're probably crying the whole fucking flight to winnipeg today dawson mercer is the entire reason he's just holding each other

[01:06:15] weeping on each other's shoulders it's probably fucking terrible all chris you chris you remember dawson mercer is the entire reason i'm on this podcast why oh that's right oh yeah it was about all right so so you were a huge man anthony so anthony so i i uh i dm'd no it wasn't an email it was i dm'd the uncle pocket it was like

[01:06:44] it was this do we keep mercer to foley what was that fucking three years ago four years ago yeah and i was like you guys are out of your fucking mind we're keeping mercer over to foley and it wasn't this like three paragraph rant i was probably 10 beers deep i don't have a drinking problem by the way just so everybody's clear on that no you can drink totally fine

[01:07:09] yeah it's like i'm okay with that it's just it's not over my head so anyway that's it dawson mercer is the reason why i'm on this podcast that that's well it's it's it's a a reason yeah um what is this i'm glitching so i need to get the out of here yeah i think we're gonna wrap it up he had several day off did make it sound like he wants mercer in the top six i mean we had him in the top six he's fine he's playing with good players up there you know mercer will be mercy i think their

[01:07:38] biggest problem in winnipeg is if they they make tim your computer's gonna walk again i think um if they try to make him a permanent center they might have an issue i do think they should keep him on the wing i mean once he said that openly that he prefers wing like whenever people would be like mercer should be at center i'm like did once a dude tells you he'd rather be a wing like in the public sphere i i don't need to question it anymore like yeah can you force him there sure but is that

[01:08:08] i optimizing his whatever i'm gonna say no he publicly said he likes wing better like yeah but winnipeg is making it sound like he is going to be in the middle so it's gonna that'll be interesting interesting imagine it just breaks out and everyone's like we got ripped off doesn't matter yeah look if mercer scores a goal tomorrow night in winnipeg or has a good heritage classic we're gonna hear it too especially if like hollebuck's first game is a dud which

[01:08:34] the guy hasn't played in six seven months it very well could be might take him a little while to get his feet wet and and get back to game speed but it's connor fucking hollebuck and we have him for four freaking years 10 games so yeah but so let's just say he he's not really ready to go in any of the next four that would leave 70 games the rest of the season how many of the 70 does he play

[01:08:55] is that like a 40 45 situation a 50 oh i think it would be 50 i think out of the 70 yeah i i think i think he'll be 50 alan will get the next 20 and then once the playoffs start alan won't see the net period he will not see the ice and that's the other thing like people are like oh yeah he's a great regular season goalie but he sucks in the playoffs like i don't buy that like

[01:09:20] yeah put him on a different team we've seen it right i mean yeah martin's gonna win the vesina this year on uh florida so yeah i mean you can't compare i hate when people do that stuff like dominic ashe couldn't win this he wasn't good enough to win a stanley cup until he went you know left buffalo and then all he did was win stanley cup so yeah people people are dumb but all right we're gonna wrap this thing up i don't think tim's coming back tim's tim's computer and brain

[01:09:47] are done for the night yes yes it is he definitely needs to get some sleep hey thanks for jumping on man this was anytime chris always a good time and uh hopefully we see the new jersey devils close out that home stand tomorrow three you know before that murder west coast trip and i'm hoping sunny's available to the media and maybe hellebuck because i'll be okay so that's that's what i was gonna ask hellebuck's definitely gonna be there right i so they said he was joining the only thing i saw

[01:10:13] was that they said he's doing the msg pregame or whatever but like it never said that he was gonna be there in person yeah that's why i'm i wasn't sure if he was gonna back so i'm like uh i imagine he's not far yeah we'll find out tomorrow so if anyone's talking i'm gonna be talking well we'll definitely be tuning in so check out ace directly after the game tomorrow 3 30 puck drop against the la kings devil's going for or shit this will be what the third in a row this will be five out of the homestand perfect

[01:10:42] yeah this would be fantastic get the ball rolling head out west guys thanks for hanging out with us late on a friday and uh we'll see you when we see you later guys