As the NJ Devils off-season gets closer ,Tom Fitzgerald has alot of work to do. Should they trade the #10 pick? The guys dive into a few free agents available. Two prospects that could be around @ pick 10. Steven Stamkos to NJ?
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[00:00:02] So, uh, 148 days. That's that's the number guys. Okay. 148 is the number until next season
[00:00:38] until the devil's play game one of the 24 25 season. That's a long time. Something to look forward to October 4th.
[00:00:46] That's some of us are Mets fans. Maybe they can close that gap a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, I guess you can
[00:00:53] four months. Wow. Yeah, it's a long time. October 4th. Um, while the douchey Rangers are playing right now, but
[00:01:01] they're losing. So, um, I guess we'll start with a little bit with playoffs. Um, so well, you know, do you guys, I know last time
[00:01:10] we talked, Bobby, we went on about how crazy you were to even take Boston in that series and then they went out that night
[00:01:18] and smoke the Panthers in the first game. He got it. He nailed it. However, however, yeah, then Florida returns a favor,
[00:01:26] smokes them even more. So I don't know how to handle this series now. These two goalies are not supposed to be letting up five and six
[00:01:32] goals. Looks like nobody was right. Yeah, right. Well, I mean, I think Florida looked like Florida last night. Um, and that's a
[00:01:41] problem for Boston. I think Boston probably played, you know, a lot of that was a motion holdover from that game seven
[00:01:47] against the Leafs and they, you know, so Boston still has a score to settle with them too. I agree. I agree.
[00:01:54] I think the first few winners, they got knocked out first round. Yeah, it wasn't any way to go, right? But now they're not going to be swept.
[00:01:59] So, I went to bed feeling good. I saw the Dallas game. It was up three nothing. The Rangers were tied. I woke up in the morning.
[00:02:06] I'm like both of those teams. Like, so I got Dallas obviously picked Dallas still but Avalanche and nobody wants to see even
[00:02:12] you guys who picked the Rangers, I know you don't want to see them win. Right? No, I don't want to. I didn't pick them.
[00:02:18] It does look like the, the hurricanes are actually playing a little bit more like the hurricane. Once they get home. Yeah, I was a little worried after that.
[00:02:26] It's crazy. Like, come on guys. This is what, what happened to this hurricane team that I was more of a tropical depression.
[00:02:34] Oh no, it really was. There he was. Do we have those editing capabilities yet? Or which one was that?
[00:02:42] The whole show is just going to be that. That's good. An hour of tropical depression jokes. But you know, yeah, they give up a third period lead
[00:02:51] Carolina and goes in a double overtime. It's, they cannot stop the Rangers' power play. I mean their power play is just too damn good.
[00:03:00] They had a couple kills so far in the game. I was watching it before I came in. So, I'll tape the rest of it.
[00:03:05] But Carolina is looking like Carolina and they switched to Freddie Anderson's not playing and Kokie Emi. Is that the kid's name? Yeah, he's in.
[00:03:16] He looks all right right now. Good. Yeah. But I was shocked at, you know, the abs came back three down to win that game.
[00:03:24] And then last night even Vancouver had was down to a third and they come back and win it in regulation.
[00:03:33] Goosey, goosey hockey for playoffs. Right? You know, the whole first round was nothing but great goalies and everything.
[00:03:40] And then this round, yeah, it seems like people are scoring some goals when the teams are getting better.
[00:03:45] Yeah. I mean, so before we get into devil stuff. So during the broadcast last night of the Boston, Florida game, I believe it was
[00:03:56] Ryan Callahan and whoever was doing the play by play. So they pulled Swamin put all mark in in the third, I believe it was.
[00:04:05] Right. And you know, right away, it's who do you start in game three? Is it Swamin is a normal now me personally?
[00:04:14] I think you got to ride Swamin, but I guess I'll ask both of you. But Dan, you're the goalie on this. So I'm curious is to me, this is why having that tandem that plays an almost even amount throughout the season can come back to bite you in the ass.
[00:04:34] It's it's last year all over again for Boston, isn't it? See, this is what can happen to you like you are used to rotate these guys and they're not used to play.
[00:04:43] Most of the games. So both those things are now new and you want to ride the hot hand, but you really don't know if you can. But you know, the downside is playoffs are totally different kind of grew for the
[00:04:56] Goal Tenders and to just come in, you know, and relieve is not really what you want. And okay, so I relieve that game. I'll start the next game.
[00:05:06] You want somebody to take over and they didn't know which way to go last year. And that all that floundering really bit them in the ass and looks like they're all, you know, asking the question should we do it all over again?
[00:05:17] And you know, look with the series at where it's at. No, I say you, you know, ride Swamin and if beyond that you don't have a lot more games to play with. So yes, you would have to switch him after that game.
[00:05:32] So I would go with Swamin this game. But if he's not getting it done, if he's really at fault for any of the next game then you got to go with All-Mark then.
[00:05:44] But I don't like this idea of rotating him. And if you are going to do that all year long, maybe you should just pull the goalies and just not even pull them. Just put them in on a special point.
[00:05:55] Win or lose?
[00:05:56] Win or lose. I think that's foolish. I would never want to do that. But if you're going to do this all year long, you know, I don't know. I think it would be smart if they want to do that part of the year as you get into springtime.
[00:06:08] You know, try to establish a number one, show faith in the one guy. And I understand sometimes that's tough. Look at the Devils this year. I mean we wanted to do that. We really did.
[00:06:19] But we were never able to.
[00:06:21] Like Swamin is the better goalie. And he's younger. He seems to have handled the first seven games while he played six in Toronto and so far, one and three quarters or one and two thirds rather of this game.
[00:06:36] So of this series. But I agree with you that it's dumb to alternate goalies throughout the playoffs.
[00:06:46] But and I said this last year in Boston's case, I would have kept them those guys in the exact same schedule just because of the rotation and what you are comfortable doing and how these guys prepare.
[00:06:59] And it's like a picture when you know you're starting every five days, you know, you're preparing yourself and then all of a sudden playoff times come and we need a guy to start on three days rest and the picture gets lit up.
[00:07:13] You know, so it's a little bit like that. I'm still a firm believer that you have to have a number one. Like I wish the Devils had a goalie like, you know, Connor Hallabuck that plays, you know, 60 games and you know, but then, you know, it doesn't show up for the playoffs.
[00:07:30] But that's a whole different story.
[00:07:32] Yeah, right.
[00:07:33] I mean, like I just feel like if it was any other team, you wouldn't have heard them say who do you start tomorrow or next game in net. But being that it was Boston and all mark and Swamin.
[00:07:44] Yeah, so like that to me is a great situation to have during an 82 games season, but it does like he said it bites you in the ass in the playoffs.
[00:07:54] It's one of those good problems to have as they say, but you really do need kind of a blueprint for what you're going to do.
[00:07:59] And I thought I was going to get away with not saying it's in the last show because I was so bullish on Boston winning that series.
[00:08:03] But I'm going to say it anyway and still make it for myself that I was going to say, I don't know if all marks going to get another game.
[00:08:10] That's how big I was on Swamin the rest of the way because I thought maybe Boston got past that.
[00:08:15] Yeah, have to play all more just because it's all more.
[00:08:18] But yeah, like Swamin took the reins and it should be his team.
[00:08:24] I mean, we all know that all mark is going to be traded this summer.
[00:08:27] So he's going to go somewhere.
[00:08:29] So it's going to be Swamin's team next year and I think he's only 24 years old.
[00:08:33] So, you know, he'll have the biggest workload of his career coming up next year.
[00:08:38] Interesting.
[00:08:40] There's no think about where all mark goes.
[00:08:42] But yeah, I just thought that that was, you know, just a problem.
[00:08:47] I don't I know it's a good problem to have.
[00:08:50] But at the same time, I don't like the idea.
[00:08:53] Like if this was the Devils, I just wouldn't be happy with no matter what happens.
[00:08:57] Everyone's going to second guess.
[00:08:59] Yeah, you know, win or lose unless Swamin comes in again in game three and just plays the lights out again.
[00:09:06] And there's and just there's no more questions about it.
[00:09:09] But if you put all mark in and they win, well, then what do you do?
[00:09:14] Are you going to just ride all mark now until the wheel?
[00:09:17] At some point you get like voodoo territory though.
[00:09:20] Like look at the actual performance of the goaltenders.
[00:09:24] I mean, is he having a good game?
[00:09:26] But they just came up short for a bunch of other reasons.
[00:09:29] That's the case and I don't even think you'd talk about taking them out.
[00:09:33] Why upset that?
[00:09:34] You know, if you're thinking, oh well, here's maybe it's just a little bit of bring some new blood or just some kind of crazy reason that has nothing to do with the actual saves.
[00:09:45] That you know, the other goaltender faced it, but some kind of new chemistry or trying to come up with.
[00:09:51] I think that's just foolish.
[00:09:53] I mean, Swamin let in four last night and I mean they were all look swam is the best goal in the playoffs right now.
[00:10:01] They weren't on him.
[00:10:03] I understand Montgomery wanting to, you know, get inject a little life into the team.
[00:10:08] But it did like I wouldn't even have thought about all mark playing regardless of him coming in for the third period.
[00:10:14] Like to me, Swamin, but then they all started talking about it right away.
[00:10:17] And I was like, this is just a question and something hanging over the team that you don't need.
[00:10:22] Like, you know, it's going to be Barovsky.
[00:10:24] You know, it's going to be Schusterkin.
[00:10:26] You know, it's going to be, you know, great with them pulling him them.
[00:10:29] You know, like when we're looking at these goals, unless he's injured or the goals are bad, why are we pulling him just to mix it up?
[00:10:36] This is your playoff goaltender.
[00:10:38] You know, you showed your opponents and the world that you don't have confidence for him to make a comeback in that game.
[00:10:44] Well, we're using that.
[00:10:46] Come back.
[00:10:48] No, I was saying, Dan, that's the other side of it.
[00:10:50] We don't talk about enough people always talk about putting that goalie in between the periods just kind of kind of that spark.
[00:10:55] Oh, it wasn't the goalies fault.
[00:10:56] We just wanted to spark the team.
[00:10:58] But then the other side, yeah, you're looking at you just told the other team that you just pulled the best goalie in the playoffs.
[00:11:02] Yeah, you kind of want your goalie to be in the other team's head.
[00:11:05] Now, I know it's already, you know, they're getting some confidence because they just scored four goals on them in two periods.
[00:11:10] But you know, that's not really the point.
[00:11:12] The point is you just showed the other team that yeah, you don't have confidence in him either.
[00:11:16] And I don't like that move unless the goaltender is looking off or somehow injured, you know, in the playoffs.
[00:11:24] In the regular season, I get it.
[00:11:25] Like look, these guys are asleep tonight.
[00:11:27] It's a shitty night.
[00:11:28] You know what?
[00:11:29] You played a good game.
[00:11:31] You sit on the bench.
[00:11:32] I want to wake everybody up and say, I had to change the goaltender out.
[00:11:35] You don't do that like all the time.
[00:11:37] That move gets old.
[00:11:38] It gets stale.
[00:11:39] And you don't do that in the playoffs.
[00:11:40] I'm not, you know, like I said, unless he's playing badly or is injured.
[00:11:44] You know, there's no reason.
[00:11:45] Yeah, I agree with that.
[00:11:47] I do.
[00:11:49] So we got the number 10 pick in the draft this year.
[00:11:54] Right.
[00:11:55] Am I correct in saying nobody moved?
[00:11:57] That entire draft lottery was basically nothing.
[00:12:00] I don't think anybody changed position.
[00:12:02] I saw somebody say that.
[00:12:03] I didn't verify it.
[00:12:04] I thought Anaheim was two and they ended up drafting three and Chicago got two.
[00:12:09] So there was a little bit of movement.
[00:12:10] Okay.
[00:12:11] I think, and I'm not sure about like three to ten.
[00:12:14] Even like the seven to three move that like happened when we were getting number
[00:12:19] ones and the Flyers were getting number twos.
[00:12:21] Right.
[00:12:22] Yeah.
[00:12:23] Same good old logic climactic.
[00:12:24] Like I, well, I'll tell you, Chicago coming in and, you know, when it was day I
[00:12:29] announced Anaheim as number three and then it's just down to San Jose and Chicago.
[00:12:33] And I'm just sitting here going, this is why everybody thinks that this shit is fixed.
[00:12:39] If they turn that fucking Black Hawk envelope over and you're going to get
[00:12:43] in two years, Conor Bidad and Max Elbrie.
[00:12:45] Two generational talents back to back.
[00:12:47] Yeah, that'd be crazy.
[00:12:48] Yeah.
[00:12:49] That would just be crazy.
[00:12:50] But he is going to go to San Jose and the devils have the tenth spot.
[00:12:55] Now there are a bunch of guys that I keep looking at that are mocked to us and,
[00:13:01] you know, top 10 guys here and there.
[00:13:03] But our, you know, our buddy Joe, Joe Stanislaw, the friend of the show is,
[00:13:09] you know, just wrote an article for Pucks and Pitchforks and he titled it
[00:13:14] Two Ideal Forward's Make Trading the Tenth Overall Hard Proposition for
[00:13:19] the New Jersey Devils.
[00:13:21] So he writes, the devils landed on tenth overall in the draft lottery while they
[00:13:25] didn't win.
[00:13:26] Two players who could be available there might make it hard to move the pick.
[00:13:30] So I'm going to read just the guys that he brought up and read what he
[00:13:36] wrote about them and then we'll also talk a little bit.
[00:13:40] Tell me what you think about these guys.
[00:13:41] I know we don't really watch them.
[00:13:43] We don't know any of these dudes, but just what you hear.
[00:13:45] And then let's talk about possibly trading that pick.
[00:13:49] So the first guy he has is Jerome McGinless Kid, Tizia Ginnler.
[00:13:53] I think I'm saying it right.
[00:13:55] It's T-I-J.
[00:13:56] Would you think Tiz, Tiz, I don't know how you say it.
[00:14:00] Take.
[00:14:01] Take.
[00:14:02] Come on, take it.
[00:14:03] Let's not do it.
[00:14:04] Let's not.
[00:14:05] Oh, did anybody catch the Tom Brady roast on Netflix?
[00:14:11] No.
[00:14:12] No, I saw some outtakes that, what's her name?
[00:14:15] Oh, shit.
[00:14:16] Oh, Nikki.
[00:14:17] Yeah, Nikki Glazer.
[00:14:18] Oh, Nikki Glazer.
[00:14:19] And she had an Instagram reel of some of the ones they wouldn't let her do
[00:14:23] and they were fucking hilarious.
[00:14:24] Let me tell you, the stuff she did do was fucking hilarious.
[00:14:27] Yeah.
[00:14:28] Yeah.
[00:14:29] She, she, I became a giant fan of her in that and it was so refreshing to
[00:14:34] actually see comedy the way it's supposed to be.
[00:14:37] Yes.
[00:14:38] And, you know, not completely whitewashed and politically correct and
[00:14:42] everything.
[00:14:43] It was, it was really funny though.
[00:14:45] She was fantastic.
[00:14:46] I definitely recommend going on Netflix and watching her.
[00:14:49] Kevin Hart was great through the whole thing.
[00:14:51] And actually a lot of the players, I thought did a really good job.
[00:14:55] Julian Edelman for the Patriots did really good and Drew Bledsoe did
[00:14:59] really good.
[00:15:00] I did not see that.
[00:15:01] That's good to hear because, you know, that's kind of tough for
[00:15:03] athletes to do comedy.
[00:15:04] I know.
[00:15:05] It doesn't usually work out.
[00:15:06] Well, I heard Julian Edelman was doing his set at like comedy
[00:15:11] clubs.
[00:15:12] Get the hell out.
[00:15:13] He's like, he was eating right now.
[00:15:15] That's great.
[00:15:16] And I guess that's just what pros, pro professional athletes do,
[00:15:19] right?
[00:15:20] They watch tape and practice their ass off and everything.
[00:15:22] So yeah.
[00:15:23] And he did really good.
[00:15:25] And I also think the fact that everybody by the time this
[00:15:28] thing started was just rip, rage and drunk really kind of helped
[00:15:32] too.
[00:15:33] But it was, it was definitely in style roasts.
[00:15:35] Everybody's,
[00:15:36] That's exactly what it was.
[00:15:38] It was kind of like that throwback to the rat pack guys and,
[00:15:41] you know, that, that whole thing, not like the stuff on
[00:15:44] Comedy Central where a, you don't even know the person they're
[00:15:47] roasting and be nobody's funny.
[00:15:49] This was all really funny shit.
[00:15:52] And like I said, there was no, there was no filter,
[00:15:56] especially with, well everybody, but Nikki Glaser just
[00:16:01] seeing this beautiful young woman up there and talking and
[00:16:04] saying the shit she does.
[00:16:06] I'd love this.
[00:16:07] She is, she is good.
[00:16:08] She's really good.
[00:16:09] She's one of my favorite comedians.
[00:16:11] Like she's been around a while now.
[00:16:12] And that's what I think about it.
[00:16:13] Right?
[00:16:14] I mean, she's been around.
[00:16:15] I've heard of her, but I never saw her stuff.
[00:16:17] Yeah.
[00:16:18] I actually used to catch her on like Bennington.
[00:16:19] And time to time they would have her on and you know,
[00:16:22] but I, I forget, I forget how long now I've been aware
[00:16:25] of her maybe over 10 years, I think.
[00:16:27] Oh wow.
[00:16:28] I got to listen to the latest, to Bennington after that
[00:16:31] because I'm curious what they had to say about it.
[00:16:33] Yeah.
[00:16:34] And not check on Bennington in a while.
[00:16:35] I'd like to.
[00:16:36] So Tizia Ginla.
[00:16:38] Okay.
[00:16:39] Is six foot.
[00:16:40] He's 185 pounds center who has proven to be an absolute
[00:16:44] beast.
[00:16:45] He can hit the net while also hitting his opponents with
[00:16:48] a Sasquatch style of play.
[00:16:50] He is one of the most complete centers,
[00:16:52] if not forwards, not named so a Breaney in the draft.
[00:16:56] Again,
[00:16:57] Lynn netted six goals in seven games and 12 points.
[00:17:00] The U18 World Championships.
[00:17:02] That's a 1.71 point per game clip and goals per game of 0.857.
[00:17:07] The kid is the main or Jersey Joe.
[00:17:10] It's just a Sasquatch comment.
[00:17:12] I like that.
[00:17:13] I like that's right.
[00:17:14] That's all Joe picture.
[00:17:15] It's beautiful.
[00:17:16] The kid is the main reason the USN TDP U18 team fell
[00:17:21] short of back to back gold medals in Finland's U18 men's
[00:17:25] tournament.
[00:17:26] He is very elusive and a skater evading defenders and can
[00:17:30] deke his way around and his job in the face off circle is
[00:17:33] key to adding that stability at this position.
[00:17:37] He knows what winning is all about and his father Jerome
[00:17:40] too was a leader in a hockey hall of famer.
[00:17:42] So he's very fortunate to have had so many great
[00:17:45] teachers.
[00:17:46] Okay, so that's one.
[00:17:47] That's you know what?
[00:17:48] That's an important factor worth talking about because
[00:17:51] let's face it man.
[00:17:52] A lot of these like children of former NHLers are
[00:17:57] proving to be good players.
[00:17:58] I mean, I guess you kind of forget about the ones that
[00:18:01] wash out or they just don't make it up to but the ones
[00:18:04] that make an NHL.
[00:18:05] I mean look at the Chuck Brothers.
[00:18:07] I mean there's a lot of advantages you know for training
[00:18:10] and the people around me.
[00:18:12] It's hard to I don't know where we're going with
[00:18:14] this next name but I know this whole thing is about
[00:18:17] what you keep kind of that 10th thing.
[00:18:18] It's hard to argue with maybe not grabbing a piece
[00:18:20] of that bloodline though.
[00:18:21] Right.
[00:18:22] And Gila is a hell of a player.
[00:18:24] Especially if it's anything like Dan just mentioned
[00:18:29] the Kachucks where you know their style of play is
[00:18:33] just it's not taught in that family.
[00:18:36] It's just genetically passed down in every
[00:18:39] knockdown what's in front of them.
[00:18:41] You know there's and it is this kid the same
[00:18:45] because his dad played like that.
[00:18:46] I mean Jerome again was one of my favorite players.
[00:18:49] Sasquatch style.
[00:18:50] I love it.
[00:18:51] I want some Sasquatch style on this team.
[00:18:53] So he also has he has a scouting report up and so
[00:18:57] if anybody's interested you can just go on to Pucks
[00:18:59] and Pitchforks and check out this article if you
[00:19:01] want to look at the scouting report and everything
[00:19:03] it's a video so we're not going to play that here.
[00:19:05] Now the second guy don't get excited.
[00:19:07] He's no relation.
[00:19:08] It's different spelling of the last name.
[00:19:10] Cole Iserman.
[00:19:11] Oh, Iserman's kid I got you.
[00:19:14] Yes.
[00:19:15] Just spelled different and not related.
[00:19:17] Oh, otherwise he has something.
[00:19:19] Cole Iserman was meant to fake that if you could.
[00:19:22] I know right.
[00:19:23] Cole Iserman.
[00:19:24] He would be Cole E instead of Stevie Y.
[00:19:28] He'd be Cole E because it's EI so.
[00:19:31] Cole Iserman was mentioned on ESPN to go
[00:19:35] around 12th overall if this if this is the case
[00:19:38] that would be a top five prospect falling into
[00:19:40] the devil's lap.
[00:19:42] Tom Fitzgerald has selected Luke Hughes out of
[00:19:44] the USN TDP U18 team program and he was on the
[00:19:48] staff when the devils took Jack Hughes in
[00:19:50] 2019.
[00:19:52] Iserman is an elite level shooter and would add a
[00:19:56] score's touch on the devil's left wing in a
[00:19:59] top six role but he likely gets eased in on
[00:20:02] the third line at his start.
[00:20:04] The way he gets open in the offensive zone allows
[00:20:07] him to set up for a one-timer or snap a
[00:20:09] rebound home.
[00:20:10] He has the best all-time goals record the
[00:20:13] USN DTP D.P.
[00:20:15] Can we just shorten it U18 team has produced ahead
[00:20:18] of Cole Cawfield which we don't have to do
[00:20:21] anymore ahead of Cole Cole Cole Cole Cawfield
[00:20:25] with 127 goals.
[00:20:27] Cole Iserman is second behind New Jersey Devil
[00:20:30] Center Jack Hughes 228 points while at 193
[00:20:34] points so Hughes has 228 Iserman 193 adding
[00:20:38] a guy who gets shots off so fast and accurately
[00:20:41] is hard to come by his release is Austin
[00:20:43] Matthews style and that is something that would
[00:20:46] truly benefit devil playmakers where there
[00:20:49] will be more high quality shots in the net.
[00:20:51] There's a lot to like about these two fine
[00:20:53] prospects who have very bright futures ahead
[00:20:55] but we wouldn't be surprised to see Iserman
[00:20:57] foregoing his commitment to Boston University
[00:20:59] to play in the NHL where he has built
[00:21:02] frame where he's built frame-wise and
[00:21:04] would benefit from being around the likes
[00:21:06] of a Jack Hughes, Hughes, Scherhalas
[00:21:08] while with Tisha Ginla seeing him
[00:21:11] potentially in camp he will likely get a chance
[00:21:13] to prove himself against NHL players.
[00:21:15] To be fair it's going to be extremely hard
[00:21:17] to not only pick the 10th overall draft
[00:21:23] but also the fear of missing out on a great
[00:21:26] player and ending up with another bad trade
[00:21:28] similar to the one that Lou made for
[00:21:30] Corey Schneider and then he writes a
[00:21:33] little bit here about a trade he said
[00:21:35] yes New Jersey is getting to the win now
[00:21:37] phase but the risk to reward ratio has
[00:21:39] to be properly evaluated before
[00:21:41] letting up on a high pick. It's a
[00:21:43] completely different story if the pick was
[00:21:45] 16 to 32. It's a lot easier to move it
[00:21:47] but it's harder to move a bolder and
[00:21:49] hoping Sasquatch can take over the heavy
[00:21:51] lifting and improve your situation in
[00:21:53] that fiasco. That's twice he references
[00:21:55] Sasquatches. I hope he's not sending him to the
[00:21:57] dead end. Just got a thing with
[00:21:59] pitchfork. Yeah exactly. So he writes
[00:22:01] word back in 2022 that the devils
[00:22:03] were kicking the tires on certain
[00:22:05] forwards like Kevin Fiala. I remember that
[00:22:07] but many trades called for them to move
[00:22:09] the second overall pick. We have to
[00:22:11] minnows much better now to have Nemech on
[00:22:13] the roster. Despite the noise
[00:22:15] that Brady Kuchuk could be had
[00:22:17] sources are saying that's not the
[00:22:19] case but the auditor senators
[00:22:21] are open to shipping off Jacob
[00:22:23] Chikrin who's a defenseman. Again
[00:22:25] let me just say this and I'll say
[00:22:27] this Sasquatch again. No no he
[00:22:29] doesn't say Sasquatch but I just
[00:22:31] want to say this. And Joe
[00:22:35] Jersey Joe DM me we were talking
[00:22:37] about the Brady Kuchuk stuff and he was
[00:22:39] like I'm hearing there is no way
[00:22:41] that you're going to move on from Brady
[00:22:43] Kuchuk. I will say this and being
[00:22:45] an old man that I am and being around
[00:22:47] sports as much as I have
[00:22:49] especially this time of year but pretty
[00:22:51] much a hundred percent of the time if
[00:22:53] a general manager comes up to you and tells
[00:22:55] you the sky is blue he's probably
[00:22:57] lying it's that simple
[00:22:59] general manager is going to tell you
[00:23:01] yeah we're thinking about shipping
[00:23:03] anybody it's just not happening
[00:23:05] so I don't buy
[00:23:07] for one second. The Ottawa
[00:23:09] senators are not going to move on from
[00:23:11] Brady. Other cryptids that Joe mentioned
[00:23:13] does he have a chupacabra in there. He doesn't
[00:23:15] he has a no chupacabra I'm trying
[00:23:17] to get any other ones.
[00:23:19] Think there was Slenderman.
[00:23:21] Oh wow. Yeah but
[00:23:23] but like a little alien they found that
[00:23:25] in Venezuela or whatever it was. Yeah that's
[00:23:27] great. Now there's these two guys and
[00:23:29] there's a whole bunch of other dudes that
[00:23:31] are going to probably be
[00:23:33] very good hockey players we talked
[00:23:35] a little bit how
[00:23:37] the you know
[00:23:39] this younger generation now there's just
[00:23:41] way more good players
[00:23:43] that can just come right into the NHL
[00:23:45] especially if you're picking in the
[00:23:47] top ten.
[00:23:49] To me well let me
[00:23:51] ask you guys this
[00:23:53] are we in a
[00:23:55] mode on this team
[00:23:57] that is
[00:23:59] better
[00:24:01] set for us to move
[00:24:03] this pick.
[00:24:05] Go get a established
[00:24:07] player I understand that things can go to
[00:24:09] shit you know when you're
[00:24:11] making a trade for somebody
[00:24:13] but they can also go to shit when you're drafting somebody.
[00:24:15] So I believe that
[00:24:17] the risk-reward ratio
[00:24:19] that Joe said
[00:24:21] I agree with him but I think the risk
[00:24:23] is greater in a draft than it is
[00:24:25] in an established player that you're
[00:24:27] going after. That's right and it's about
[00:24:29] timing too right it's what you're
[00:24:31] looking at for what
[00:24:33] you need is it more now or is it more
[00:24:35] well that's what I'm asking what do you
[00:24:37] think do you think having
[00:24:39] another top ten
[00:24:41] developmental dude on this team
[00:24:43] is the right move for where
[00:24:45] this franchise is right now
[00:24:47] or do you say
[00:24:49] fuck this we're gonna go
[00:24:51] and push our chips in the middle of the table
[00:24:53] and go get a fucking stud
[00:24:55] and we have assets
[00:24:57] and we have some players on this team
[00:24:59] that we can move and we have
[00:25:01] a top ten draft pick this year
[00:25:03] this is a tough question
[00:25:05] what do you think Bob?
[00:25:07] It's tough because it is a top ten in the way Joe lays out
[00:25:09] those two prospects alone
[00:25:11] considering who else might fall
[00:25:13] into those positions
[00:25:15] it's hard to know without
[00:25:17] knowing what else we're capable of doing
[00:25:19] to fix the team but for me
[00:25:21] in general
[00:25:23] we're at the point now where
[00:25:25] we need what's
[00:25:27] gonna happen to win now and we need to start making
[00:25:29] deep runs even if we start like really turning
[00:25:31] the ship around it doesn't mean like
[00:25:33] we're gonna win a Stanley Cup next year you know they might have to get used to
[00:25:35] play a deep runs on a playoffs getting
[00:25:37] used to that playoff style like
[00:25:39] Carolina or something you know before
[00:25:41] it could take the next seven years of
[00:25:43] Jack's contract to finally get that next Stanley Cup
[00:25:45] we don't know all I know is he
[00:25:47] we're at the 2019
[00:25:49] we're gonna be in the 2025 season
[00:25:51] next year so for me
[00:25:53] I don't want to deal with
[00:25:55] what ifs I would I want to deal with
[00:25:57] bringing an approving commodity right now
[00:25:59] approving this team and doing our best
[00:26:01] to actually try to get a championship
[00:26:03] within the next few years. I definitely hear you with that
[00:26:05] because that's my gut instinct
[00:26:07] I'm just like second guessing myself because you know what
[00:26:09] right now it's a playoffs and we're not in
[00:26:11] them and I want it now
[00:26:13] I want it then I want it
[00:26:15] I want to sit outside another year or two
[00:26:17] so I'm with you and I think that's
[00:26:19] true but even beyond
[00:26:21] just kind of that bitter taste
[00:26:23] of not making the playoffs coloring my thoughts
[00:26:25] I think you made a good point
[00:26:27] that okay we've had
[00:26:29] a lot of prospects in development for
[00:26:31] a while we have enough capital
[00:26:33] to trade for other guys that compliment those guys
[00:26:35] who are now hitting their stride
[00:26:37] you know we don't really expect
[00:26:39] to get too much more development
[00:26:41] necessary for guys like Nico
[00:26:43] and Jack and others you know
[00:26:45] so what are we waiting for right so let's just
[00:26:47] do what we can do now
[00:26:49] now maybe there's some kind of
[00:26:51] in between thing here because
[00:26:55] you would like to keep developing
[00:26:57] I mean devil is in their best
[00:26:59] leadership over the years
[00:27:01] under Lou they never
[00:27:03] stop developing you know that's why this is a
[00:27:05] hard question Chris Pote we're not even getting
[00:27:07] into dropping down the draft
[00:27:09] you will take your 15th pick for our
[00:27:11] 10th in whatever package
[00:27:13] we're talking about so there's so many options
[00:27:15] yeah yeah so maybe we can
[00:27:17] find some middle ground
[00:27:19] because pardon me yeah I want to put
[00:27:21] on paper a playoff
[00:27:23] ready team now like let's
[00:27:25] do it before
[00:27:27] you know the season starts so we're ready to
[00:27:29] roll and maybe
[00:27:31] we can do both to some extent that would be
[00:27:33] great that's a great option
[00:27:35] Bob I need to think about that some kind of trade down
[00:27:37] get what we want
[00:27:39] now and you know so that's
[00:27:41] tough call you know we always imagine
[00:27:43] putting on the GM hat but frankly I don't
[00:27:45] think anybody's really know what that's like
[00:27:47] that's tough it's not
[00:27:49] it is moving pieces
[00:27:51] it is a very tough job but
[00:27:53] I am in the camp
[00:27:55] and all these prospects and I've looked at a
[00:27:57] bunch of other guys
[00:27:59] Joe sent me a
[00:28:01] shitload of dudes to check out and I have been
[00:28:03] going through and looking at some of these kids
[00:28:05] and I like all
[00:28:07] of them I mean there's every guy
[00:28:09] every video play
[00:28:11] when I hit play when I'm done I'm like
[00:28:13] I want him on the devils and then I go to the next
[00:28:15] guy and I'm like I want these kids are all great
[00:28:17] yeah and whether or not
[00:28:19] they're going to turn out to be stunt NHL
[00:28:21] players I don't know where I
[00:28:23] am right now I if
[00:28:25] I was the general manager
[00:28:27] and I identified one or two or
[00:28:29] three guys that I really
[00:28:31] want on this team I would move on from that
[00:28:33] pick I would trade the pick
[00:28:35] and let me tell you because of
[00:28:37] the depth of this draft
[00:28:39] glass because
[00:28:41] we have a top 10 pick
[00:28:43] Ottawa is picking 7
[00:28:45] now
[00:28:47] would
[00:28:49] the number 10 pick
[00:28:51] and Alex Holtz
[00:28:53] would that get Brady Kachuk here
[00:28:55] I'm saying if you're
[00:28:57] Ottawa and you're looking see I don't
[00:28:59] know what Ottawa's thinking
[00:29:01] right they can be thinking okay I'll take your
[00:29:03] pick our 7 and trade up
[00:29:05] right they get
[00:29:07] 3rd or 4th they have a guy
[00:29:09] 5 or 4 that they
[00:29:11] would love to have on this team
[00:29:13] maybe then you can move on on their chart
[00:29:15] that guy is you know who's going to take off
[00:29:17] for them for 8 years
[00:29:19] and you also don't know what they're thinking as far as
[00:29:21] their organization and
[00:29:23] where it's going you know do they
[00:29:25] feel like okay we have
[00:29:27] Brady Kachuk on this team he is our star
[00:29:29] he is our best player
[00:29:31] we have sort of have pieces
[00:29:33] around him Tim Stutzlitz
[00:29:35] is a decent player
[00:29:37] but you don't have a team
[00:29:39] of studs so
[00:29:41] Brady Kachuk every year is going out there
[00:29:43] and doing it on his own now they have to rationally
[00:29:45] and logically look at it and say how
[00:29:47] far off are we you know
[00:29:49] we just made a coaching change
[00:29:51] now we have a new head coach coming in there's going to be a new system
[00:29:53] we have a lot of young players
[00:29:55] do we
[00:29:57] say our window is not in the next
[00:29:59] year or two years three years
[00:30:01] maybe they're saying we're not going to be able
[00:30:03] to really compete for three or four years
[00:30:05] it's truly compete might make the playoff
[00:30:07] truly be a contender yeah
[00:30:09] now if you're a Chuck's contract
[00:30:11] right and if you're looking at a big
[00:30:13] contract on Brady Kachuk
[00:30:15] who's up for I think he's
[00:30:17] I think 26 27 is
[00:30:19] when his contract ends it may possibly
[00:30:21] be 27 28 I don't have
[00:30:23] that run yeah right three years
[00:30:25] or so right so
[00:30:27] right when we're about to pop or we believe
[00:30:29] we're about to pop this guy
[00:30:31] could walk out the door
[00:30:33] and go to free agency
[00:30:35] and so do you make the commitment
[00:30:37] that we're going to build this thing around Brady Kachuk
[00:30:39] and you are going to be
[00:30:41] the guy to take us to the promised land
[00:30:43] and you're going to give us
[00:30:45] you know right now a handshake yeah
[00:30:47] that will try and extend you as early as possible
[00:30:49] will try and do whatever we can
[00:30:51] but you want to be here we want
[00:30:53] you here we're going to build a team around you
[00:30:55] turn right or you're looking and saying
[00:30:57] we need
[00:30:59] you know a lot of different pieces
[00:31:01] we have a lot of different deficiencies
[00:31:03] and just one guy that takes up
[00:31:05] the majority of our south more
[00:31:07] salary cap than any other player
[00:31:09] who possibly right when we are hitting
[00:31:11] our stride can walk out the door and leave
[00:31:13] us high and dry do we move
[00:31:15] him now but then again
[00:31:17] try to keep asses in the seats for
[00:31:19] the next couple years too and I think
[00:31:21] having a he's not the best move for that
[00:31:23] so having two
[00:31:25] first round top 10 picks
[00:31:27] or one higher round higher
[00:31:29] first round pick that would probably get
[00:31:31] fans excited will play next year
[00:31:33] you think it sounds to me
[00:31:35] like these guys a couple of these
[00:31:37] at least the guys that Joe brought up I would
[00:31:39] think that they could be an age already
[00:31:41] yeah that's something maybe they can market
[00:31:43] this you know fresh new team
[00:31:45] plus it depends on the team whereas on the
[00:31:47] devils they might be at each already
[00:31:49] but they might not be able to crack the lineup
[00:31:51] but some of the teams in front of us
[00:31:53] or below us technically good point
[00:31:55] they're gonna be playing Alex holds his spot
[00:31:57] making it really difficult to get in this
[00:31:59] team and you know we have
[00:32:01] twenty million dollars of available
[00:32:03] salary cap space
[00:32:05] so we can sign players
[00:32:07] we know we need a goalie
[00:32:09] we know we need you know this that the other
[00:32:11] thing but
[00:32:13] and it might not be Brady Kuchuk
[00:32:15] if there's any other player that you feel
[00:32:17] you can put on Jack's line
[00:32:19] whether they're centering him or he's centering them
[00:32:21] and you know this is a line
[00:32:23] a combination at least that
[00:32:25] is gonna stay together these guys are gonna
[00:32:27] work and put up
[00:32:29] you know ridiculous points
[00:32:31] to me it's Brady Kuchuk
[00:32:33] and I'm like I said I've said it a million times
[00:32:35] and maybe Joe is a hundred percent right
[00:32:37] and maybe his sources are a hundred percent
[00:32:39] legit not bullshit in him
[00:32:41] and they're telling him Brady
[00:32:43] no no no no Brady's going
[00:32:45] nowhere but we heard that
[00:32:47] there's always a price there really is
[00:32:49] right and I think well away out of
[00:32:51] and then pick
[00:32:55] a player Nemic and another
[00:32:57] like you could definitely blow them away
[00:32:59] sure but we're not willing to do that
[00:33:01] right I mean
[00:33:03] would you be willing to say
[00:33:05] Seamus Casey who again I think he's probably
[00:33:07] off of the table too because
[00:33:09] Fitzgerald from what I just read
[00:33:11] them talked him out of going back
[00:33:13] to college and so
[00:33:15] that to me would mean that Seamus
[00:33:17] Casey at least in Tomford
[00:33:19] Gerald said has a really good chance of
[00:33:21] making this team yeah unless
[00:33:23] he just wants them in the NHL so we can trade
[00:33:25] him but I don't
[00:33:27] think that's the case this is why I always
[00:33:29] mentioned that that like depth chart
[00:33:31] that the GMs have up in their office I'd love
[00:33:33] to see it like literally you slide the
[00:33:35] magnet piece up if this guy gets traded
[00:33:37] so you can see their entire revision because
[00:33:39] that's how they can look at this and have all these
[00:33:41] multiple scenarios because you can't just
[00:33:43] answer one to one oh would you trade for
[00:33:45] that sure but what if that man
[00:33:47] sure you know what I mean but when you
[00:33:49] when you get to actually look at it with all
[00:33:51] of your depth and figure out
[00:33:53] okay we'll slide him up he's a little deficient
[00:33:55] but we're going to pick up that slack
[00:33:57] by this defenseman it's a whole different
[00:33:59] game so awesome to be
[00:34:01] involved in that it would that job
[00:34:03] and I would love to be in draft rooms
[00:34:05] especially NFL draft rooms I would love
[00:34:07] to be in there with their big boards
[00:34:09] but would you be in the WWE
[00:34:11] draft room just curious
[00:34:13] so that crap on TV
[00:34:15] I'd like to be more in the
[00:34:17] WWE's writer's room
[00:34:19] I'll tell you that a lot more than
[00:34:21] in their draft room that would be great where they just
[00:34:23] and what ideas didn't
[00:34:25] sell because they do so many crazy things
[00:34:27] that what did they say
[00:34:29] in the writer's room well I'll tell you what didn't
[00:34:31] we can't go that far
[00:34:33] there is one that has now
[00:34:35] most like within the last
[00:34:37] year or so has kind of come out that
[00:34:39] when all this shit came out about
[00:34:41] and it was just Mcman and just what a
[00:34:43] fucking disgusting human being
[00:34:45] he is there was
[00:34:47] a storyline when Stephanie
[00:34:49] Mcman was pregnant
[00:34:51] with triple H's kid with her first
[00:34:53] daughter that Vince
[00:34:55] pitched that it was his kid
[00:34:57] so they were going to bring the incest
[00:34:59] I know it
[00:35:01] Vince pitched this idea what is it with
[00:35:03] billionaires wanting to fuck their daughters
[00:35:05] yeah that's crazy
[00:35:07] that's a good storyline
[00:35:09] that's horrible
[00:35:11] not only that when he was shot down and people were like
[00:35:13] what the fuck is wrong with you
[00:35:15] alright then we'll just
[00:35:17] make it your brother
[00:35:19] so the incest thing
[00:35:21] was what he was fucking dead set on
[00:35:23] keep it in the family one way or the other
[00:35:25] one way or the other he was keeping his family
[00:35:27] so that was something that ended up in the cutting room floor
[00:35:29] Dan I'm real curious to know some of the
[00:35:31] fucking other ones
[00:35:33] yeah I mean it's a crazy
[00:35:35] whole family
[00:35:37] conversation and period like I think if you look
[00:35:39] at this from history
[00:35:41] perspective in the future
[00:35:43] nobody's gonna believe
[00:35:45] beyond PT Barnum
[00:35:47] oh yeah this is Carney's
[00:35:49] we don't take
[00:35:51] seriously enough
[00:35:53] how crazy of a product
[00:35:55] he's put together over the last
[00:35:57] how long now like going on 50 years
[00:35:59] he's out now
[00:36:01] this is the first WrestleMania that did not
[00:36:03] have a Mcman owning
[00:36:05] in the company
[00:36:07] which is
[00:36:09] pretty crazy you think about it
[00:36:11] like almost 100 years of somebody
[00:36:13] in that family owning
[00:36:15] territory that company
[00:36:17] his grandfather Vince's grandfather
[00:36:19] but
[00:36:21] speaking of salary cap
[00:36:23] we have 20 million
[00:36:25] dollars
[00:36:27] of available money and there are
[00:36:29] a lot of really good free agents
[00:36:31] so I figured throughout the course
[00:36:33] between now and the start of free agency
[00:36:35] we'll go over
[00:36:37] some available free agents
[00:36:39] tell me what you guys think about
[00:36:41] them and so
[00:36:43] I put down here I have one, two
[00:36:45] I have five forwards
[00:36:47] and three defensemen
[00:36:49] so we'll go over eight of them
[00:36:51] and
[00:36:53] I have their
[00:36:55] ages, their stats and their contracts
[00:36:57] so let me just go to this
[00:36:59] real quick because I want to get a
[00:37:01] little bit more information
[00:37:03] alright let's start with
[00:37:07] Shaw Monahan
[00:37:09] from Winnipeg
[00:37:11] and
[00:37:13] he was traded there this year from
[00:37:17] where'd he come from, Montreal
[00:37:19] alright so Monahan is 29 years old
[00:37:23] this year he had 26 goals
[00:37:25] 33 assists, 59
[00:37:27] points, he averages
[00:37:29] 18 minutes of ice time a night
[00:37:31] and he is a
[00:37:33] UFA and he gets
[00:37:35] 1.985 million
[00:37:37] I really
[00:37:39] like Shaw Monahan and I think
[00:37:41] he would fit in with this team
[00:37:43] what's his natural position
[00:37:45] that's an excellent question
[00:37:47] I think
[00:37:49] he's the only guy for some reason
[00:37:51] he's a center, okay that's what I thought
[00:37:53] so yeah so Monahan's
[00:37:55] a center, oh yeah I have it here
[00:37:57] actually according to
[00:37:59] the cap he plays every forward position
[00:38:01] center, left wing, right wing
[00:38:03] it's easier to move a center to wing anyway
[00:38:05] than a true winger or center so that's good
[00:38:07] I think he played
[00:38:09] I think he was centering
[00:38:11] he was centering the second line in Winnipeg
[00:38:13] so here's a guy
[00:38:15] that can come in, he can play
[00:38:17] with
[00:38:19] Jack and
[00:38:21] I think it would be a really good fit
[00:38:23] I like Shaw Monahan, he's cheap
[00:38:25] he's 6'2", almost 200 pounds
[00:38:27] he's got some size
[00:38:29] and I think
[00:38:31] it could be a really good fit
[00:38:33] with Jack for Shaw Monahan
[00:38:35] and like I said I like the fact that he's
[00:38:37] only coming in, give him a raise
[00:38:39] maybe the guy makes 3 million, 2.5 million
[00:38:41] and I signed him up for a couple years
[00:38:43] he's young, oh he's
[00:38:45] 29 but he's got experience
[00:38:47] is there any
[00:38:49] information on his face off capabilities
[00:38:51] that's one of Jack's deficiencies
[00:38:53] and there's this trend now of him not
[00:38:55] being a center, right?
[00:38:57] I know, I saw that, I was reading about that
[00:38:59] that's an excellent question
[00:39:01] Shaw Monahan's face off percentage
[00:39:03] give me one second
[00:39:05] and I think I can find it
[00:39:07] and we have a face off deficit with
[00:39:09] the former
[00:39:11] face off leader on this team who's never coming back
[00:39:13] we can use every inch throughout the lineup
[00:39:17] that is probably
[00:39:19] the thing that killed us the most
[00:39:21] about him, his situation
[00:39:23] I mean yeah, I love the fact that
[00:39:25] he was
[00:39:27] motor was always going and the guy was
[00:39:29] always one of the hardest working guys
[00:39:31] on the ice but
[00:39:33] yeah, I just
[00:39:35] can you take those face off so then jump back over the boards
[00:39:37] I mean it was
[00:39:39] perfect
[00:39:41] all to half and
[00:39:43] we missed it definitely
[00:39:45] let me just see if I can find this
[00:39:47] real quick
[00:39:49] I'm curious because
[00:39:51] well below 50%
[00:39:53] you know then
[00:39:55] you're looking at
[00:39:57] if he were to come on the team and you're looking at
[00:39:59] okay, well then I guess in that case Jack would stay at center
[00:40:01] and I'm still staying with the
[00:40:03] Jack at center thing until
[00:40:05] he's about 51%
[00:40:07] he has to be able to make that move
[00:40:09] if you want to
[00:40:11] Shaw Monahan's 51% over his career
[00:40:13] okay
[00:40:15] fine
[00:40:17] and Jack
[00:40:19] over his career
[00:40:21] is why is this the different thing coming up here
[00:40:23] they don't even have Jack's stats
[00:40:25] let me see if I can find them here
[00:40:27] so last season
[00:40:29] he was at
[00:40:31] 37%
[00:40:33] okay
[00:40:35] it's a considerable upgrade at center
[00:40:37] maybe those things about Jack not being a center
[00:40:39] or right, I'm fine with Jack
[00:40:41] being a winger
[00:40:43] what about you
[00:40:45] is there a reason he has to stay in the middle
[00:40:47] I think really what I'm saying
[00:40:49] is that you go ahead and put him on the wing starting
[00:40:51] to line up whatever you want
[00:40:53] I want him patrolling as a centerman
[00:40:55] once the puck's dropped though
[00:40:57] I don't think he needs to play a wing
[00:40:59] style, I think he needs to be that guy
[00:41:01] who's got all the free reign at center
[00:41:03] I don't care where you line him up
[00:41:05] right but you don't mind having
[00:41:07] a good winger that can take the face off
[00:41:09] and then he switch out
[00:41:11] which is a little bit
[00:41:13] what's his name did
[00:41:15] I'm not going to say his name but we all know who he's talking about
[00:41:19] but uh yeah
[00:41:21] you take the face off, an important face off
[00:41:23] an offensive, an important defensive
[00:41:25] face off whatever and you get him in there
[00:41:27] this is an attractive player for
[00:41:29] fairly low salary
[00:41:31] he's due a raise I'm sure
[00:41:33] but still nice
[00:41:35] I like the idea of him
[00:41:37] there are a couple guys I like the idea
[00:41:39] but salary is a big reason why on this one
[00:41:41] and I think that he'll have
[00:41:43] the best year of his career
[00:41:45] playing with Jack Hughes
[00:41:47] so
[00:41:49] good point considering your career
[00:41:51] is very not like these boys can
[00:41:53] um Stephen Stamcoase
[00:41:55] is our second forward on this list
[00:41:57] alright
[00:41:59] he plays left wing and center
[00:42:01] we all know Stamcoase he's older
[00:42:03] he's 34 years old
[00:42:05] he's a um
[00:42:07] where am I actually left wing center
[00:42:09] he's a right handed shot
[00:42:11] this year at 34 years old
[00:42:13] he had 40 goals
[00:42:15] 41 assists for 81 points
[00:42:17] uh he averages
[00:42:19] 18-13 of
[00:42:21] ice time he's a UFA
[00:42:23] and his cap hit is big
[00:42:25] it's uh his cap hit
[00:42:27] this year his salary is only 6.5 million
[00:42:29] but his cap hit
[00:42:31] is 8.5 the way that's expired
[00:42:33] right so
[00:42:35] 8.5 million this year
[00:42:37] but his base was 6.5
[00:42:39] so you're probably going off of that
[00:42:41] you're going off the 6.5 for any kind of raise
[00:42:43] for Stephen Stamcoase
[00:42:45] does he do anything for you guys
[00:42:47] in New Jersey? Yes
[00:42:49] for me I mean if
[00:42:51] if some of the other pieces were plugged by
[00:42:53] cheaper younger talent or whatever
[00:42:55] and we had the room
[00:42:57] for a year or two I would not be opposed to
[00:42:59] have an income on this team
[00:43:01] I think it'd be great if we were overpay for him
[00:43:03] even for 8 million dollars
[00:43:05] we have 20 million to spend
[00:43:07] and now maybe we have more than that
[00:43:09] and there's other moves that could be made
[00:43:11] then I'd be willing to look at it more
[00:43:13] but that's a lot of money so
[00:43:15] I gotta see what else is out there
[00:43:17] and if I could get something
[00:43:19] it's not a way he's got almost double the numbers
[00:43:21] of uh Monahan
[00:43:23] right I'm gonna go to the goals and assists
[00:43:25] so you are getting
[00:43:27] almost what you pay for there
[00:43:29] let's say you get them in the 7s
[00:43:31] but in order to make that happen
[00:43:33] Fitzgerald has to go out and move
[00:43:35] to the next dollar 3.4 million
[00:43:37] and bring up another guy making a million
[00:43:39] you've just shaved another 2.5
[00:43:41] now you're essentially paying Stamp Coase 5 million dollars
[00:43:43] would you pay Stamp Coase 5 million dollars for a year
[00:43:45] yeah it would
[00:43:47] definitely in that scenario absolutely
[00:43:49] I love the idea of Stephen Stamp Coase
[00:43:51] playing with Jack Hughes
[00:43:53] I think that Jack Hughes would become
[00:43:57] a much better
[00:43:59] now he's a great hockey player
[00:44:01] but he would become a much better
[00:44:03] all around NHL
[00:44:05] with a guy like Stephen Stamp Coase
[00:44:07] I think if you could get Stamp Coase in here
[00:44:09] for 2 years with a contract
[00:44:11] that's not gonna fucking kill us
[00:44:13] I absolutely would do it
[00:44:15] I think he could maybe play the role that I expected
[00:44:17] Palott to play more
[00:44:19] that kind of experience
[00:44:21] and there's another one
[00:44:23] maybe you move him you just gotta eat a little bit of a salary to do it
[00:44:25] but it clears the space
[00:44:27] I feel bad about that, because
[00:44:29] look I want to get rid of Seagant's dollar too
[00:44:31] with an experienced defenseman
[00:44:33] and that's gonna cost money
[00:44:35] I'm not sure you're going with that
[00:44:37] well the defenseman that I
[00:44:39] would want on this team
[00:44:41] and we'll get to him is
[00:44:43] it's not a ton of money
[00:44:45] I mean I granted you gotta give him a raise
[00:44:47] so yeah I'm out of these guys
[00:44:49] we'll rank them the forwards when we're done
[00:44:51] so you know just out of
[00:44:53] Stamp Coase in Monaghan
[00:44:55] like to me Stamp Coase is a no brainer
[00:44:57] but I know Detroit
[00:44:59] I really see Detroit
[00:45:01] him going there
[00:45:03] I've heard rumors before the season was even over
[00:45:05] that they're interested in him
[00:45:07] and Patty Kane and him want to go on a run together
[00:45:09] and so
[00:45:11] I do think that they probably have the inside track
[00:45:13] on Stamp Coase
[00:45:15] if he leaves Stampa
[00:45:17] I just want to say this too
[00:45:19] I don't think this would be in the same
[00:45:21] vein as like a Palott
[00:45:23] Palott had risk with it
[00:45:25] with that contract in that term
[00:45:27] that was the move you kind of want to make
[00:45:29] because you want to become that playoff team
[00:45:31] you knew you were overpaying for a guy with diminishing returns
[00:45:33] I don't think Stamp Coase is that guy
[00:45:35] I know he's 34
[00:45:37] scored 40 goals
[00:45:39] I mean he's still Stamp Coase
[00:45:41] it's definitely a tick above
[00:45:43] what we got with Palott
[00:45:45] that's very fair
[00:45:47] absolutely Stamp Coase is
[00:45:49] I think a home run
[00:45:51] the next guy is a guy
[00:45:53] that we can watch play tomorrow night
[00:45:55] Florida Panthers 28 years old
[00:45:57] he's a right winger right handed shot
[00:45:59] this year he had
[00:46:01] I mean if you could put together
[00:46:03] on your lame duck year
[00:46:05] a season like this man
[00:46:07] I'm telling you this guy did himself so many favors this year
[00:46:09] 57 goals
[00:46:11] 37 assists and 94
[00:46:13] points all career highs
[00:46:15] for Sam Reinhart
[00:46:17] who has always been a very consistent
[00:46:19] 30 goals a year
[00:46:21] I think he hit 40 once maybe twice
[00:46:23] I'm not sure
[00:46:25] but 57 is no joke
[00:46:29] and his cap hit
[00:46:31] and salary is the same as you would be dealing
[00:46:33] well salary is the same you'd be dealing with Stamp Coase
[00:46:35] it's 6.5 million
[00:46:37] this dude has 94 points last year
[00:46:39] he's going to want to get
[00:46:41] I would bet Reinhart's agent
[00:46:43] is going to be asking for the 9 to 10 million
[00:46:45] yeah this is a 9 to 10
[00:46:47] 7 to 8 year contract type of guy
[00:46:49] this I don't know that we can fit
[00:46:51] that
[00:46:53] 57 goals
[00:46:55] I love Sam Reinhart
[00:46:57] I love the way he plays
[00:46:59] and I think the runs
[00:47:01] last year or this year are just
[00:47:03] adding to him and everything
[00:47:05] I think that run last year
[00:47:07] plays a big part in his
[00:47:09] 94 point season this year
[00:47:11] I think this dude learned a lot in those playoffs
[00:47:13] and I think he's a hell of a player
[00:47:15] but like you said
[00:47:17] somebody is going to give him 9 or 10 million
[00:47:19] but he's going to be a great
[00:47:21] champion for us
[00:47:23] even if he falls way back
[00:47:25] from that 57
[00:47:27] just say back to 35
[00:47:29] close to 40
[00:47:31] that still a hell of a player
[00:47:33] sure is
[00:47:35] man I think with our contracts
[00:47:37] and other players that's probably out of line
[00:47:39] but when we rank these we're just going to rank them
[00:47:41] surely on
[00:47:43] the player or we're going to rank them on the probability
[00:47:45] you want
[00:47:47] Tim brought up to me
[00:47:49] and I was checking him out
[00:47:51] it's Jake DeBrosk, Boston
[00:47:53] again not a center
[00:47:55] 27 years on now keep in mind
[00:47:57] what we're looking for mostly is somebody
[00:47:59] to play with Jack Hughes
[00:48:01] if we bring in a
[00:48:03] winger Jack and his
[00:48:05] 31% face off percent
[00:48:07] winning percentage is going to be in the middle
[00:48:09] so let's just keep that in mind
[00:48:11] unless you know they moved
[00:48:13] up somebody else but
[00:48:15] for the most part we're looking for somebody to kind of play in the middle there
[00:48:17] but Jake DeBrosk
[00:48:19] 27 right he plays both wings
[00:48:21] this year
[00:48:23] he had 19 goals 21 assists 40
[00:48:25] points I'm not sure how many games he played
[00:48:27] I should have wrote that down
[00:48:29] he averages 16
[00:48:31] minutes 49 seconds a night
[00:48:33] $4 million
[00:48:35] cap hit and salary for Jake
[00:48:37] DeBrosk I like Jake DeBrosk
[00:48:39] I think he played second line wing
[00:48:41] for Boston this year so
[00:48:43] he's used to that top 6 minutes
[00:48:45] didn't have the playmakers
[00:48:47] up there that he has
[00:48:49] here I think I like
[00:48:51] Jake DeBrosk he's got a lot
[00:48:53] of playoff experience and I
[00:48:55] dig him
[00:48:57] but I don't know
[00:48:59] for me personally
[00:49:01] if I'm going to go out and get a free
[00:49:03] agent or two I think I'd
[00:49:05] stick with the middle unless it's Brady Kachuk
[00:49:07] yeah he's not
[00:49:09] really pushing the needle for me
[00:49:11] for some reason when I think
[00:49:13] this would be like a replacement
[00:49:15] if for some reason we lost like a Dawson
[00:49:17] Mercer
[00:49:19] this would be like a next guy up I don't see him as the guy
[00:49:21] I put on this team right now
[00:49:23] barring other moves of course
[00:49:25] okay Dan
[00:49:29] I think of the four we've
[00:49:31] spoken about he'd be at the bottom
[00:49:33] list for that reason definitely
[00:49:35] I intend to agree
[00:49:37] alright so we will put Jake DeBrosk
[00:49:39] in the bottom of the list
[00:49:41] and where am I here
[00:49:43] come on
[00:49:45] alright the last guy is Chandler Stevenson
[00:49:47] Vegas Golden Knights
[00:49:49] center I was
[00:49:51] center in the second line of Vegas this year
[00:49:53] 30 years old
[00:49:55] he had 16 goals 35
[00:49:57] assists 51 points basically
[00:49:59] exactly what Jake DeBrosk had
[00:50:01] right or close to it
[00:50:03] 18 29
[00:50:05] nice time 3.2
[00:50:07] 5 was his
[00:50:09] salary
[00:50:11] and his cap hit this year was
[00:50:13] 2.75 million
[00:50:15] Chandler Stevenson won a couple
[00:50:17] last year he's a gritty player
[00:50:19] I really like him
[00:50:21] I would be very happy
[00:50:23] in the same vein as I would be very happy
[00:50:25] with Sean Monaghan if it was Chandler Stevenson
[00:50:27] I like these
[00:50:29] you know bigger centers that
[00:50:31] have a lot of experience
[00:50:33] that can play in big situations
[00:50:35] with Jack I think
[00:50:37] Chandler Stevenson would be a very good figure
[00:50:39] what do you guys think
[00:50:41] as you were talking about him I was thinking
[00:50:43] how much he reminded me of Monaghan
[00:50:45] the money and everything
[00:50:47] but maybe an even better choice
[00:50:49] so yeah he's asleep
[00:50:51] I kind of had Monaghan at 2
[00:50:53] behind Stamco's
[00:50:55] I think Stevenson took that spot
[00:50:57] and I'll put
[00:50:59] right heart behind Monaghan
[00:51:01] not in ability
[00:51:03] but in what I want to give up
[00:51:05] what was the size again
[00:51:07] Chandler Stevenson
[00:51:09] but he is gritty
[00:51:11] and that counts for a lot
[00:51:13] that's what we need
[00:51:15] Chandler Stevenson is
[00:51:17] 6 foot 209 pounds
[00:51:19] that's 2.00 million
[00:51:21] he's a left handed shooting
[00:51:23] sentiment
[00:51:25] so I mean I like him
[00:51:27] his numbers
[00:51:29] so he only played his 51 points
[00:51:31] this year only came off 75 games
[00:51:33] he hasn't played a full season
[00:51:35] in his career
[00:51:37] the closest he got
[00:51:39] I don't like the name Chandler
[00:51:41] I don't either
[00:51:43] last year he played the most amount of games
[00:51:45] in his career with 81
[00:51:47] he had 65.16 goals
[00:51:49] 49 assists
[00:51:51] his highest goal
[00:51:53] scoring outage was
[00:51:55] last year was his highest points
[00:51:57] with 65 his highest goals
[00:51:59] was 21-22 with 21
[00:52:01] so that's what you get in with Chandler Stevenson
[00:52:03] we've been talking about somebody to play with Jack
[00:52:05] somebody to play with Jack
[00:52:07] one thing that gives me pause is I don't know
[00:52:09] if this he's like really assist heavy
[00:52:11] which is great
[00:52:13] so is Jack, I don't know
[00:52:15] I don't know if he's as good of a fit
[00:52:17] to play with Jack
[00:52:19] and how you feel about that
[00:52:21] some of the other guys
[00:52:23] I don't know
[00:52:25] I think if you're looking at him
[00:52:27] and
[00:52:29] what you're going to call it
[00:52:31] who's the other guy, Monahan
[00:52:33] you know
[00:52:35] as far as games played
[00:52:37] Monahan has
[00:52:39] played one full season
[00:52:41] two full seasons this year as well
[00:52:43] they count the playoffs too
[00:52:45] so he played a
[00:52:47] it was only in I guess one game it says 83 games
[00:52:49] I don't know what I'm looking at
[00:52:51] but anyway 27-34
[00:52:53] goals was his highest ever that was
[00:52:55] 2018-19
[00:52:57] and that was what Calgary
[00:52:59] so I mean
[00:53:01] they're both very similar
[00:53:03] I agree with you
[00:53:05] I don't know
[00:53:07] I think I'd put him over
[00:53:09] maybe last now
[00:53:11] if I'm ranking these guys right now I think I'd go
[00:53:13] Chandler, Stevenson
[00:53:15] Jake DeBros
[00:53:18] Sean Monahan, Sam Reinhardt, Steven Stampos
[00:53:20] going from bottom to top
[00:53:22] yes
[00:53:24] wow okay so yeah you really
[00:53:26] don't want Stevenson
[00:53:28] well I mean I like
[00:53:30] all these guys I'm just saying as far as our list goes
[00:53:32] he's on the bottom
[00:53:34] and you're not counting money at all
[00:53:36] I guess because he got Reinhardt so high
[00:53:38] yeah and if I was counting money
[00:53:40] it would be Stevenson
[00:53:42] Reinhardt, DeBros
[00:53:44] Monahan, Stampos
[00:53:46] right
[00:53:48] yeah okay
[00:53:50] I'm going
[00:53:52] I would put DeBros on the bottom
[00:53:54] Stevenson 4
[00:53:56] Reinhardt 3
[00:53:58] Monahan 2
[00:54:00] Stampos number 1 because I can
[00:54:02] envision a spot where
[00:54:04] now that leaves Jacket Center
[00:54:06] okay because you got Stampos in there
[00:54:08] but I was just looking up the stats
[00:54:10] you could switch Eric Hall from left wing to right wing
[00:54:12] play with those two
[00:54:14] he had a 54.8 winning percentage in the face off last year
[00:54:16] so you can spot him in the face
[00:54:18] offs and then go back to the wing
[00:54:20] let Jack Dangle
[00:54:22] and then go back to the camera
[00:54:24] kind of like it
[00:54:26] two bigger guys to help Jack out on this way
[00:54:28] I was figuring money when I
[00:54:30] put Reinhardt at 3
[00:54:32] because
[00:54:34] he's right there with Stamco so if we're not talking money
[00:54:36] yeah
[00:54:38] that's the thing
[00:54:40] without talking money he's 2 in my list
[00:54:42] right exactly
[00:54:44] yeah I could probably flip that
[00:54:46] DeBros, that was the least
[00:54:48] interesting one to me
[00:54:50] I don't know, Steven's been like
[00:54:52] DeBros got a hat-trick tomorrow night
[00:54:54] I think we all kind of like
[00:54:56] the Stamco's
[00:54:58] and we like the fact that
[00:55:00] we're looking at it honestly like a one two year
[00:55:02] commitment thing most likely like a two
[00:55:04] you know
[00:55:06] I would like them for two years
[00:55:08] and I would get off of my Brady Kuchuk horse
[00:55:10] if we got Steven Stamco's
[00:55:12] you have to
[00:55:14] but that
[00:55:16] fills a lot of the need
[00:55:18] and the very attractive
[00:55:20] thing about Brady Kuchuk is that he's so young
[00:55:22] and he's got a rear head of him
[00:55:24] clearly number one
[00:55:26] but Steven Stamco's
[00:55:28] is a really good consolation prize
[00:55:30] yeah
[00:55:32] I agree
[00:55:34] so let's talk a little bit about defensemen
[00:55:36] I only have three so it won't be that long
[00:55:38] so the first one is Chris Tanniv
[00:55:40] right
[00:55:42] with Dallas now 34 years old
[00:55:44] he's a
[00:55:46] shooting right hand right side of defensemen
[00:55:48] this year he had two goals
[00:55:50] 17 assists 19 points
[00:55:52] he's a plus 22 this year
[00:55:54] now it's mostly with Calgary
[00:55:56] he averages 1941
[00:55:58] a night in ice time and he gets
[00:56:00] four and a half million dollars
[00:56:02] now
[00:56:04] I personally think that Dallas
[00:56:06] is going to sign him after this year
[00:56:08] I think they're gonna want him here but if he does hit the open market
[00:56:10] I
[00:56:12] was happy with him last year I'd be happy
[00:56:14] with him now
[00:56:18] I would definitely be happy with him now
[00:56:20] I just
[00:56:22] I'm trying to look forward to who's
[00:56:24] who on defense is staying and who's going
[00:56:26] because I really like to keep that left right defense
[00:56:28] thing going but I think we'd be able to find room
[00:56:30] for him just fine
[00:56:32] worry about that later
[00:56:34] Devils fans have kind of
[00:56:36] lusted after him all year so
[00:56:38] he's got to be at the top of this list
[00:56:40] of one of course
[00:56:42] but it'd be hard to knock him off let's see what we got
[00:56:44] well uh yeah it would be hard
[00:56:46] to knock him off if I didn't take
[00:56:48] put Brandon Montor on this list
[00:56:50] oh
[00:56:52] he's with Florida now we all know
[00:56:54] same as
[00:56:56] Tana if he's a right-handed
[00:56:58] at Florida
[00:57:00] get the equipment trainer
[00:57:02] I mean
[00:57:04] 33 points this year
[00:57:06] with 8 goals 23-26
[00:57:08] of ice time this dude
[00:57:10] I love Brandon Montor
[00:57:12] and he is a playoff dude
[00:57:14] three and a half million dollars is the salary right now
[00:57:16] how was he?
[00:57:18] 30
[00:57:20] to me and the next guy I like a lot too
[00:57:22] but Brandon Montor
[00:57:24] would fit with this
[00:57:26] that's the defenseman we want
[00:57:28] yeah
[00:57:30] I forget it his size is a big dude
[00:57:32] yeah he is but I'll get it
[00:57:34] what's his favorite color
[00:57:39] I'll find out too for you
[00:57:41] thank you
[00:57:43] best color
[00:57:45] oh wait I forgot
[00:57:47] he's 6'194 pounds
[00:57:51] yeah I thought he was bigger than that too
[00:57:53] but yeah he was you
[00:57:55] but he hits like a fucking freight train
[00:57:57] and
[00:57:59] he enjoys it
[00:58:01] very similar skill set Bob
[00:58:03] yes
[00:58:05] but I love Brandon Montor
[00:58:07] and he really
[00:58:09] I didn't know who this guy
[00:58:11] was from Adam until last year's playoffs
[00:58:13] and he played
[00:58:15] amazing last year
[00:58:17] him and the guy that went over to Anaheim
[00:58:19] who the hell was that
[00:58:21] the other defenseman that left
[00:58:23] it was a big part of last year's team
[00:58:25] we talk about them all the time
[00:58:27] I can't remember his freaking name
[00:58:29] but anyway
[00:58:31] I love Brandon Montor and if you can get him
[00:58:33] for like 4 million
[00:58:35] on this D
[00:58:37] who do we have on the right side right now Bobby
[00:58:39] so let's see on the right side
[00:58:41] Dougie Hamilton of course
[00:58:43] he's down as both I put him as a left side
[00:58:45] John Marino and Simone Nenek
[00:58:49] alright so Marino's gotta go
[00:58:51] potentially
[00:58:53] and Marino if he did go that's 4.4
[00:58:55] going with him
[00:58:57] gives you some room
[00:58:59] but you want a guy for the left side right
[00:59:01] well that's what we really want
[00:59:04] we do want that too
[00:59:06] because right now you're looking at Seaganthaler
[00:59:08] Luke Hughes and Kevin Ball
[00:59:10] that's our left
[00:59:12] so Seaganthaler and Marino we're willing to part with
[00:59:14] correct
[00:59:16] I'd like to say another year for Marino
[00:59:18] and see if it's going to be a bounce back
[00:59:20] I really do believe
[00:59:22] Radco Lutis I'm sorry
[00:59:24] I had to get that out
[00:59:26] I'm sorry what were you saying Bobby
[00:59:28] just about Marino like I'm not really ready
[00:59:30] to give up on him
[00:59:32] I think that last year was the anomaly
[00:59:34] I think he can have a turnaround year
[00:59:36] he could have a tough of last year
[00:59:38] if I could swap those two I would probably do it
[00:59:40] yeah
[00:59:42] I agree
[00:59:44] I personally don't want Seaganthaler
[00:59:46] on this team I just didn't like any
[00:59:48] of his play last year and I think
[00:59:50] you gotta move on
[00:59:52] the first one you're trying to upgrade definitely
[00:59:54] yeah and
[00:59:56] man Brandon Montour is a friggin stud
[00:59:58] the other guy a little long in the tooth
[01:00:00] last guy and again
[01:00:02] another guy that I really didn't know
[01:00:04] last year's playoff is Alex Martinez
[01:00:06] from Vegas 36 years old
[01:00:08] he's a left shooting defenseman
[01:00:10] left side defenseman
[01:00:12] he only played 55 games this year
[01:00:14] he's up there in age
[01:00:16] 13
[01:00:18] before goals 13 assists 17.2
[01:00:20] was a minus 2
[01:00:22] 1902 of ice time
[01:00:24] the guy gets 5
[01:00:26] his cap hit this year was 5
[01:00:28] 255 million 250,000
[01:00:30] his salary is 5 million
[01:00:32] 250,000 so you're gonna have to pay the guy
[01:00:34] yeah
[01:00:36] it's pretty big but I wouldn't be surprised if Montour
[01:00:38] winds up in that area too
[01:00:40] yeah sounds like it
[01:00:42] you know and he sounds like he's
[01:00:44] twice the stats
[01:00:46] future ahead of him
[01:00:48] if we wanted to go
[01:00:50] with
[01:00:52] run it back with our defense
[01:00:54] or maybe bring Seamus Casey in
[01:00:56] maybe give him a shot then I honestly
[01:00:58] think that we are in trouble this year
[01:01:00] we're gonna have to get Dougie Hamilton back
[01:01:02] like I still think that
[01:01:04] Luke Hughes and Shimon Nemez they are still
[01:01:06] growing and developing
[01:01:08] and I do not wanna throw another rookie in there
[01:01:10] and unless you know
[01:01:12] this guy looks like the
[01:01:14] second coming of Chris Celiose
[01:01:16] in training camp I just
[01:01:18] you know that just makes me nervous
[01:01:20] so I do think we need to
[01:01:22] upgrade at least one of these positions
[01:01:24] again a guy like Alex Martinez
[01:01:26] he's a veteran he's been around
[01:01:28] he gets paid a decent amount of money
[01:01:30] but he brings that experience
[01:01:32] one Stanley cup last year
[01:01:34] loves to hit loves to just
[01:01:36] be that physical dude
[01:01:38] you're making a good case that the numbers
[01:01:40] really didn't because that's the presence we need
[01:01:42] we need that leadership
[01:01:44] veteran presence that's gonna
[01:01:46] be the leader of that core
[01:01:48] yeah we miss Dougie Hamilton a lot and he is
[01:01:50] ostensibly the leader but
[01:01:52] I've never gotten leadership vibes from Hamilton
[01:01:54] not the defensive leader
[01:01:56] that's gonna change the game in that way
[01:01:58] he's a great player to have but
[01:02:00] I think the picture you're painting
[01:02:02] Martinez is kind of the guy we're looking for
[01:02:04] to balance out on Nemez Hughes
[01:02:06] growing paints
[01:02:08] 6'1", 210 pounds
[01:02:10] and the price is kind of high
[01:02:12] and you're looking at
[01:02:14] Montorre but maybe he's a better leader
[01:02:16] than Montorre
[01:02:18] he's had original misfit
[01:02:20] he's been with Vegas since their inception
[01:02:22] so I mean
[01:02:24] Brandon Montorre, Alex Martinez
[01:02:26] and there's a bunch of other guys
[01:02:28] and we'll talk about a whole bunch more
[01:02:30] but that's the type of guy that I really want
[01:02:32] on this team
[01:02:34] I do want that
[01:02:36] just somebody that's gonna bring
[01:02:38] a little bit of toughness on this team
[01:02:40] and that's why I think of Brady Kitchuck
[01:02:42] like just putting a guy
[01:02:44] like Brady Kitchuck on a team
[01:02:46] with Timo Meyer
[01:02:48] and let's say
[01:02:50] Brandon Montorre
[01:02:52] brings that physicality of this team
[01:02:54] up several notches
[01:02:56] you know they potentially have a player
[01:02:58] of that mindset on the ice almost the entire game
[01:03:00] with two different forward lines
[01:03:02] and so on defensive line
[01:03:04] you know where we're in to see the biggest impact
[01:03:06] too is you know those implosions that we did
[01:03:08] all year long where we didn't just let one goal
[01:03:10] in, short, then three in a row
[01:03:12] that kind of shit doesn't happen when you have
[01:03:14] the anchor
[01:03:16] of a good leader in the back
[01:03:18] you know you look at like
[01:03:20] Florida couldn't get over the hump
[01:03:22] and you know for so many years
[01:03:24] right like I think they
[01:03:26] got swept two years ago
[01:03:28] by Tampa and then I think they got
[01:03:30] and that was after winning the second round
[01:03:32] that was after winning the president's comp
[01:03:34] the year before that I think they got bouncing
[01:03:36] the first round and then they get
[01:03:38] Matthew Kitchuck on the team
[01:03:40] and his personality and what he brought
[01:03:42] to that team and
[01:03:44] you know they said it during the
[01:03:46] Carolina game like the whole
[01:03:48] the last game
[01:03:50] the whole hurricane team has
[01:03:52] taken the identity
[01:03:54] of Rod Brindlemore and we've said that on this
[01:03:56] show but that Florida Panther
[01:03:58] team took the identity of Matthew Kitchuck
[01:04:00] and I see a guy like
[01:04:02] Brandon Montour who plays
[01:04:04] like that with that chip, a guy like
[01:04:06] Brady who plays like that and with that chip
[01:04:08] and a guy like Timo who can
[01:04:10] I think that Timo
[01:04:12] was very confused a lot this year
[01:04:14] and I think next year
[01:04:16] we're really going to see Timo Montour
[01:04:18] I think we started to see
[01:04:20] I don't need anyone to tell me I'm a leader on this team
[01:04:22] I'm going to be a leader on this team
[01:04:24] Exactly and with Kitchuck
[01:04:26] I've never seen a team take one player's
[01:04:28] identity with so much success
[01:04:30] you know it gets credit for this a lot
[01:04:32] is Messier but
[01:04:34] this I think was even more extreme than that
[01:04:36] you had a bigger cast of characters
[01:04:38] on that team and a lot of
[01:04:40] parts came together for just one year
[01:04:42] I see
[01:04:44] this is like a total transformation
[01:04:46] on the spot as soon as they get him
[01:04:48] and look at them now
[01:04:50] you've got Contender team
[01:04:52] twice in that one in a row
[01:04:54] It is fascinating too how much I love watching his dad play
[01:04:56] and then you see these kids now
[01:04:58] and you're like that is just in the blood
[01:05:00] There's a good Chuck effect
[01:05:02] there is when you bring one of those dudes
[01:05:04] onto your team and like
[01:05:06] I said earlier man it's not
[01:05:08] the way that they play isn't taught
[01:05:10] they're born that way
[01:05:12] even if there's any women
[01:05:14] in that family they're probably just bad asses
[01:05:16] that you wouldn't want to mess with
[01:05:18] I don't know if they have any sisters
[01:05:20] but you're probably an awesome hockey player
[01:05:22] it's just what they do
[01:05:24] but I would love to have him
[01:05:26] I guess before we wrap it up
[01:05:28] you had some stuff
[01:05:30] that people were putting some possible names
[01:05:32] for Utah
[01:05:34] It seems like the Utah team
[01:05:36] is getting closer to picking names
[01:05:38] and there's some floated around the internet
[01:05:40] that some of our
[01:05:42] fans may have seen
[01:05:44] some of our listeners may have seen
[01:05:46] I wanted to run this list by
[01:05:48] there's quite a few on this
[01:05:50] Utah Black Diamonds is one
[01:05:52] the first to saw it
[01:05:54] I'm like this
[01:05:56] I kind of read it backwards like diamond backs
[01:05:58] Utah Black Diamonds as in the ski slopes
[01:06:00] which Utah is famous for
[01:06:02] I got it
[01:06:04] Utah Blast
[01:06:06] It feels like it's a flavor
[01:06:08] of a shitty drink
[01:06:10] Oh yeah, fart even
[01:06:12] The Utah Blast
[01:06:14] The Utah Blizzard
[01:06:16] We already have
[01:06:18] the ambulance
[01:06:20] Exactly
[01:06:22] Enough of the storm type
[01:06:24] things
[01:06:26] We've got the hurricanes
[01:06:28] Utah Canyons
[01:06:30] I like it
[01:06:32] So you're a fan of that
[01:06:34] I saw you say that
[01:06:36] I get it
[01:06:38] It's tied to the place
[01:06:40] Utah is definitely known for canyons
[01:06:42] Canyonlands National Park
[01:06:44] is there
[01:06:46] But it's like a geographical feature
[01:06:48] It's like naming your team
[01:06:50] Mountain or the lakes
[01:06:52] Well, we have the lakers
[01:06:54] That's kind of stupid
[01:06:56] At least someone's a Laker
[01:06:58] which may be even dumber than calling yourself a lake
[01:07:00] But a canyon
[01:07:02] If you're going to be a geographical feature
[01:07:04] But I don't know if you want to be a geographical feature
[01:07:06] I'm sorry, canyon wasn't the one I liked
[01:07:08] You liked a couple
[01:07:10] Yeah, there were a couple
[01:07:12] But it wasn't canyon
[01:07:14] This is another one
[01:07:16] I know you said you liked the Utah Caribou
[01:07:18] I think it's cool
[01:07:20] It's totally different and so stupid
[01:07:22] I love it
[01:07:24] Every time I hear that
[01:07:26] If anybody mentions the caribou play
[01:07:28] I'll hear that song
[01:07:30] That caribou
[01:07:32] Exactly
[01:07:34] It's kind of interesting
[01:07:36] It's almost like naming your team the reindeer
[01:07:38] Because that's basically what a caribou is
[01:07:40] Yeah, it's not one of the bottom ones
[01:07:42] For me
[01:07:44] It's very A.H.L.-ish
[01:07:46] Yes
[01:07:48] Now these next two
[01:07:50] The Utah Frees and Utah Frost
[01:07:52] I get it, it can get cold in Utah
[01:07:54] It's hockey
[01:07:56] Is there any of these?
[01:07:58] I'm kind of negative
[01:08:00] You would just name your sport team
[01:08:02] After what the weather is like
[01:08:04] The New Jersey
[01:08:06] Partly cloudy
[01:08:08] And 58 degrees
[01:08:10] The hot and humid
[01:08:12] I don't know
[01:08:14] We have some stuff like that
[01:08:16] Weather patterns
[01:08:18] I don't like the frost
[01:08:20] I don't like that
[01:08:22] Are there animals or beasts or anything
[01:08:24] Other than a reindeer?
[01:08:26] Caribou, but we're getting to a couple more
[01:08:28] The Frees would be a good P.W.N.H.L.
[01:08:34] What is it?
[01:08:36] The Women's Hockey League
[01:08:38] The W.N.H.L.
[01:08:40] The frost I feel kind of like
[01:08:42] Yeah, I could see women's team being called the Frost
[01:08:44] Yeah
[01:08:46] I guess the frost
[01:08:48] It just sounds like, hey we're ice hockey
[01:08:50] We had to come up with a cold name
[01:08:52] Utah Fury
[01:08:54] Fury is a very popular name
[01:08:56] In the Men's Leagues
[01:08:58] There's been a lot of fury themes out there
[01:09:00] There's a reason it's popular
[01:09:02] It's a cool name
[01:09:04] It's definitely not the worst
[01:09:06] I don't think anyone in Utah is actually furious though
[01:09:08] I just gave a picture
[01:09:10] The Utah Milk Toast
[01:09:12] Even tempered
[01:09:14] Utah Whites
[01:09:16] Yeah, seriously
[01:09:18] I mentioned this last time
[01:09:20] I'm still polling for the sister wives
[01:09:22] That'll never happen
[01:09:24] I can't wait to see the jerseys
[01:09:26] Utah Glaciers
[01:09:28] Okay, you could say a geographical feature
[01:09:30] And that cold thing you don't like
[01:09:32] But for some reason it works a little bit better
[01:09:34] For me
[01:09:36] You hate the cold features
[01:09:38] I mean the geographical features
[01:09:40] And you hate the fact that something's shown cold
[01:09:42] But if you mix them you like it
[01:09:44] That makes sense
[01:09:46] What are you printing?
[01:09:48] Oh I'm not somebody is
[01:09:50] What else you got?
[01:09:52] I also have
[01:09:54] The
[01:09:56] Utah Hive
[01:09:58] Which is interesting
[01:10:00] Utah Hive
[01:10:02] I don't know where they got that from
[01:10:04] It's like a bee hive
[01:10:06] There is something in Utah
[01:10:08] I know there are state roads
[01:10:10] They all have a bee hive symbol on them
[01:10:12] We already have the blue jackets
[01:10:14] Yeah
[01:10:16] Exactly
[01:10:18] There are bees that fought
[01:10:20] In the Civil War
[01:10:22] The Confederates were defeated by
[01:10:24] The Sumer Bees
[01:10:26] Exactly
[01:10:28] When those bees barged into
[01:10:30] Atlanta it was horrible
[01:10:32] Exactly
[01:10:34] Here's another one I don't even understand
[01:10:36] The Utah HC
[01:10:38] Hockey Club
[01:10:40] Is that what that's supposed to stand for?
[01:10:42] It's exactly what it stands for
[01:10:44] We're just going to do this because we can't pick a name like Washington
[01:10:46] Exactly
[01:10:48] It's a classic
[01:10:50] It's boring
[01:10:52] It has to go in state
[01:10:54] But it's so fucking
[01:10:56] If you really want to pick a
[01:10:58] The most boring name
[01:11:00] That's for a very boring state
[01:11:02] Which actually I haven't been to them all
[01:11:04] But is the most beautiful state
[01:11:06] I've ever been to
[01:11:08] It's kind of stupid calling Utah
[01:11:10] We're over like 5% or something there
[01:11:12] It's definitely the boring state
[01:11:14] I like the hockey club
[01:11:16] It's the boring
[01:11:18] Maybe I have just an effect
[01:11:20] Because I snowboarded it
[01:11:22] For like 4 days at the canyons
[01:11:24] Maybe that's why
[01:11:26] I've only seen it in the summer
[01:11:28] It's beautiful then too
[01:11:30] I've only seen it in the winter
[01:11:32] Wait, that's not true
[01:11:34] We drove through
[01:11:36] We drove through from Vegas
[01:11:38] Utah ice is on this list
[01:11:40] Again, like down with the frost and the freeze
[01:11:42] How about this? We got an animal finally
[01:11:44] Utah mammoth
[01:11:46] I believe there have been
[01:11:48] Minor league mammoth teams over the years
[01:11:50] You can have a pretty cool logo
[01:11:52] I think it would sell a ton of merch
[01:11:54] And you can get
[01:11:56] What's his name?
[01:11:58] Mr. Snowfallusagus
[01:12:00] Everybody loves Raymond
[01:12:02] He was the voice of the mammoth
[01:12:04] Oh yeah, yep
[01:12:06] He could be their MC or something
[01:12:08] Utah mountaineers which is so stupid
[01:12:10] We're mountaineers
[01:12:12] I just think of that guy
[01:12:16] He was traipsing around with the dentist
[01:12:18] What was his name?
[01:12:20] Rudolph the red nose reindeer
[01:12:22] Special
[01:12:24] Yeah
[01:12:26] He's got a big red beard
[01:12:28] Yukon Cornelius
[01:12:30] Yes
[01:12:32] In fact, that would be a better name
[01:12:34] Utah
[01:12:36] I don't know about the mountaineers
[01:12:38] Utah outlaws
[01:12:40] You guys are outlaws
[01:12:42] Okay
[01:12:44] Utah powder
[01:12:46] This is so stupid
[01:12:48] Change that to the women's team
[01:12:50] Sorry, not the frost, the powder
[01:12:52] Powder
[01:12:54] I guess
[01:12:56] I get it
[01:12:58] They all got an around table
[01:13:00] And you all wrote
[01:13:02] Snow or ice
[01:13:04] There's nothing else about your state
[01:13:06] Other than like you said
[01:13:08] It gets cold there, we get it
[01:13:10] As far as storm related names
[01:13:12] We've talked about a few
[01:13:14] This is the dumbest one I've ever heard
[01:13:16] The Utah Squall
[01:13:18] There's a Squall coming up
[01:13:20] Watch out
[01:13:22] And by the way, there was the Utah Swarm
[01:13:24] That was on there as well
[01:13:26] Which I guess goes with the hive
[01:13:30] Utah Venom
[01:13:32] There are some venomous things
[01:13:34] I myself was bit by a scorpion in Utah
[01:13:36] Lift, tail to tail
[01:13:38] It was not too venomous
[01:13:40] Yeah, it was a tiny little scorpion
[01:13:42] Touching it over there for a while
[01:13:44] It was actually a frightening story
[01:13:46] I know the story
[01:13:48] I want you to tell it
[01:13:50] No, we were just up on some
[01:13:52] Crazy high mountain far away from everything
[01:13:54] And it was getting to be dust
[01:13:56] So we're collecting firewood like you're not supposed to do
[01:13:58] And
[01:14:00] I've been looking for scorpions for the last three days
[01:14:02] I brought UV light and everything
[01:14:04] I want to find scorpions to show little kids
[01:14:06] Hey look, we got scorpions here
[01:14:08] Couldn't find any
[01:14:10] Yeah, so I'm picking up a piece of firewood
[01:14:12] And I think maybe I'll add a cactus
[01:14:14] Because I feel like a little
[01:14:16] Crick in my thumb right just above the thumbnail
[01:14:18] And
[01:14:20] Yeah, my thumb
[01:14:22] And I'm like maybe that wasn't a cactus
[01:14:24] So I forgot I got my blue light
[01:14:26] Black light and I shine it
[01:14:28] And sure enough to scorpion
[01:14:30] And I'm like oh shit
[01:14:32] So scorpions they have there
[01:14:34] They can be pretty bad
[01:14:36] They can really fuck with your nervous system
[01:14:38] Unless you're really ill
[01:14:40] You probably would live
[01:14:42] But it could like give you a crazy heart palpitation
[01:14:44] Did you have any effects?
[01:14:46] I had to wait to see
[01:14:48] But in the end no, it was like a beast thing
[01:14:50] It was no big deal, I was lucky
[01:14:52] So it was great because
[01:14:54] I was not going to drive myself down this mountain
[01:14:56] In the dark and I don't know if anybody else could have done that day
[01:14:58] And did you ever find out what kind of scorpion it was
[01:15:00] I bet you
[01:15:02] No, but since it was one of the smaller ones
[01:15:04] That's bad because there's a few smaller ones
[01:15:06] And a couple of those are bad
[01:15:08] So I figured it with the species in that area
[01:15:10] I had a two out of three chance of having a bad time
[01:15:12] But I got lucky
[01:15:14] That's what he takes those out
[01:15:16] Yeah, exactly
[01:15:18] And Dan wouldn't have fired at it
[01:15:20] Or I would have had to
[01:15:22] Bite my thumb off and they would have called me
[01:15:24] Dan no thumb
[01:15:26] We already called you that
[01:15:28] Well, sure, that's
[01:15:30] 5'9", Dan no thumb
[01:15:32] Any other names?
[01:15:34] Last name
[01:15:36] Here it is, Utah Yeti
[01:15:38] So
[01:15:40] It peaked my interest that Jersey Joe mentioned
[01:15:42] Sasquatch twice
[01:15:44] Because Utah is seriously considering
[01:15:46] Another name for Sasquatch
[01:15:48] I guess they are the same thing, right?
[01:15:50] Is Yeti the same thing as Sasquatch?
[01:15:52] Sasquatch is bigfoot and Yeti's
[01:15:54] Are they all the same thing?
[01:15:56] Is it just a winter version of that?
[01:15:58] Yeah, it's just a winter version of that
[01:16:00] Are they the same species?
[01:16:02] Yeah, they're both
[01:16:04] What the fuck are those giant apes called?
[01:16:06] There's
[01:16:08] A scientific name for them?
[01:16:10] Yeah
[01:16:12] I think they're all
[01:16:14] Pithecus or something
[01:16:16] They're all them
[01:16:18] I think that's what it's called
[01:16:20] I think that's a real thing, it makes sense to me
[01:16:22] Well those are real, bigfoot and Yeti's are not
[01:16:24] But
[01:16:26] If they were real, they'd be dragon apithecuses
[01:16:28] I learned so much tonight
[01:16:30] Dragon apithecuses
[01:16:32] I don't know
[01:16:34] But I think Yeti's is going to win
[01:16:36] I do, I think that is the one
[01:16:38] Even though I kind of like the swarm
[01:16:40] I was thinking about that after you said it
[01:16:42] That's not a bad name
[01:16:44] It's not too bad, the swarm
[01:16:46] I kind of dig it, I like that it doesn't end in an S
[01:16:48] But you know
[01:16:50] The mascot might be like, I'm swarmy
[01:16:52] Or maybe it'll be a union soldier
[01:16:54] Who the hell knows
[01:16:56] It'll be a guy with like seven women
[01:16:58] And that'll be the mascot
[01:17:00] Yes, exactly, one guy with seven women
[01:17:02] They'll have eight mascots
[01:17:04] Exactly
[01:17:06] Alright so we're going to wrap it up for this evening
[01:17:08] Unless anybody has anything else they would like to discuss
[01:17:10] No
[01:17:12] I think we're good
[01:17:14] Alright we'll go back and hopefully Carolina won this game
[01:17:16] We'll go back and finish watching that
[01:17:18] I'll be very disappointed if the rangers take a fucking
[01:17:20] 3-0 lead in this and not have lost the game
[01:17:22] In this entire playoffs
[01:17:24] They're getting, the fans are becoming unbearable
[01:17:26] Yeah
[01:17:28] They must go down
[01:17:30] Oh yeah, news for you
[01:17:32] Bobby I'm going to watch the game
[01:17:34] I'm not watching, I'm not looking at it
[01:17:36] You just still did the score
[01:17:38] No, not the live score
[01:17:40] Not the live score
[01:17:42] How far behind
[01:17:44] Far enough
[01:17:46] Well I'm just starting the second period
[01:17:48] Alright
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