Unleash the Keefe
Uncle Puckers NJD PodcastMay 23, 2024x
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Unleash the Keefe

Tom Fitzgerald locked up the next head coach of the Devils... Next order of business? "Big Game Hunting" A look ahead at Conference Finals... How does Sheldon Keefe impact the Devils moving forward?

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[00:00:10] Man this intro just takes forever doesn't it?

[00:00:16] Hey everyone mr. Devil here Kenny Danico three times

[00:00:23] You're listening to the Uncle Puckers New Jersey Devils podcast with Chris Dan Bobby and Tony the Uncle Puckers

[00:00:30] Let's go Devils. Let's go Devils. So we did a whole show last night with

[00:00:36] Jersey Joe came on did our little draft show

[00:00:41] That show ended up in the garbage. So we oh

[00:00:45] well

[00:00:46] do you remember when you had gotten on and

[00:00:51] We were getting that pop-up saying that you had to close your tabs and all the other stuff

[00:00:55] Yeah

[00:00:55] I had an issue once and it kept telling me that something was wrong, but it seemed like everything was okay

[00:01:02] So we just plotted on but it didn't work

[00:01:04] Until we went to listen and saw that your the show was great sends your voice. It was just

[00:01:12] gapes gaps of

[00:01:15] silence so

[00:01:16] That's what happened with Joe and it popped up and I told him now

[00:01:21] You get you know, and so there was an issue with with him getting on earlier and with you know

[00:01:26] Riverside and blah blah blah. So anyway, it went good and

[00:01:30] We are gonna do it again

[00:01:32] I do want to thank Joe for for his time and coming on and it sucks that it didn't work out

[00:01:37] But yeah, so bummed for him, you know, these are the things that happen in yes crazy world of shitty podcasting

[00:01:46] Yeah, it was technical different. We got to try to do some kind of like backup something

[00:01:51] But I don't know what the answer is

[00:01:53] Well, I'm not that savvy with you know, neither am I if we were in the one place

[00:01:57] I could see how we could record it on a machine but but now yeah

[00:02:01] Because we are part of the hockey podcast network

[00:02:04] We do have access to Stream Yard if we did want to decide to maybe give that a shot and see how

[00:02:10] We do even to maybe just one show and see if we like it better. Maybe we're beside a shot

[00:02:15] I mean, I don't know the other people have these problems. I don't know

[00:02:19] I don't know

[00:02:19] I don't listen to anybody else's podcasts if they do they probably don't bitch about them on their show like we're doing

[00:02:25] Oh, no, they definitely don't do that just pretend it never happened. No, that's not a professional thing to do

[00:02:30] I guess but that's you know, that's not us. No, what fun is there in that?

[00:02:35] I'm not gonna miss a chance to complain right and act like, you know, everything's all fucking wonderful

[00:02:39] it's sometimes you get the Internet gremlins and things get screwed up and whenever a

[00:02:44] Entire show ends up on the cutting room floor. We tell our listeners

[00:02:47] I mean, I'm concerned about this one. You look like you're made up about three pixels

[00:02:51] I mean it I don't know what's going on, but I had a really see I had a really long day

[00:02:55] Maybe that has something to do. That's it. You're kind of run down at the end of the day

[00:03:00] One day of work you down to three pixels your last three pixels. This is an actual it's not a streaming problem

[00:03:06] This is your actual look this is how I look right now, but at the end of a day

[00:03:10] Yeah, I got it. But am I but I mean you're hearing me fine. Yeah. No, you sound great

[00:03:15] I just I need to describe to people help how blocky you look you look like a

[00:03:20] Mario

[00:03:21] Original NES version nice, you know, yeah, it's a medium audio. I am Italian

[00:03:27] Yeah, but this is back before you had any voice. That's true. That's true. So we did go over a some finals

[00:03:35] Fix so we'll do that real quick. So okay, so we started with Dallas and Edmonton

[00:03:42] Bobby me

[00:03:44] Tony

[00:03:46] Joe

[00:03:48] Jersey Joe all took Dallas in six Tim took Dallas in five

[00:03:53] Are you gonna be the outlier here and go with the Oilers? I can't okay

[00:03:59] I would love to I would love to buck the trend but I mean, I just I don't I don't think they're gonna do it

[00:04:05] I like Dallas and six. That's a that's a good number

[00:04:11] But maybe you know try to be there's no points on this thing, right? Nobody cares

[00:04:15] I'll just join the other join the herd then Dallas and six is what I was thinking all along

[00:04:19] I was like maybe Dallas in seven and I'll look awesome if I'm the only one who picked that you know care

[00:04:25] I like Dallas. I think that there I think they are gonna win this series

[00:04:30] but I was I tell you what impressed me and I understand that Vancouver is not as

[00:04:36] Deep as Dallas. They don't have the right those scores, but man they held

[00:04:41] Vancouver those last two games like 15 shots a game

[00:04:44] I believe or 17 shots and and Skinner made 15 saves in that game seven

[00:04:49] Like if they play that kind of defense and they get their big guys showing up

[00:04:54] They could give Dallas some trouble, but I just think that is better defense tonight than I thought the Oilers are capable

[00:05:00] Definitely. Yeah, you know why to it?

[00:05:02] I fully expected them to come back in that last game because that's what Vancouver kept doing

[00:05:06] All playoffs, you know first round second round they made really good third period comebacks, but uh, you know despite being

[00:05:14] I guess down 3-1. I think it was

[00:05:18] Nothing down 3-0. Yeah, they mean I guess by the end of the second or whatever was 3-1

[00:05:23] I was waiting for Vancouver to come back

[00:05:26] But they really had nothing going there. So Edmonton did a great job

[00:05:29] You know with Brock basher being out that really hurt

[00:05:33] You know, he was he was playing great for them

[00:05:36] So having him out of the lineup the fact that Elias Pedersen decided not to show up this entire playoff that hurt them, right?

[00:05:44] So, you know Vancouver is there I think they're a lot like the Devils is not in the way that they play but in

[00:05:50] The fact that they kind of arrived maybe a season too early

[00:05:53] So it's gonna be kind of fun to see how they do next year

[00:05:58] Yeah, they should grow as a threat. Yeah, I like Vancouver

[00:06:03] And I thought Rick Tuckett did an amazing job with that team this year. So

[00:06:08] Then we go over to the Eastern Conference final

[00:06:12] Florida and the Rangers big game one going on right now. We're we'll watch it later

[00:06:18] We don't know what's going on

[00:06:19] So so Bobby took the Cats in seven Tony took the Cats in seven Tim

[00:06:27] Took Florida in six Jersey Joe and myself

[00:06:31] Took Florida in five. Oh, wow. That's about that was my pick. I like I got a total disrespect

[00:06:39] Just to launch more disrespect at the Rangers

[00:06:42] maybe, you know, maybe maybe I go crazy and call a sweep here, but

[00:06:48] Do it. Yeah. No do it. Yeah, why not? Okay, what I'll call this week. No, I love it

[00:06:53] It doesn't matter. I love it. I just think that with this series. I

[00:06:58] Just think that Florida is gonna be too much to handle

[00:07:00] I and I think Matthew Kachuck has been relatively quiet in these playoffs so far and I don't expect him to stay that way

[00:07:08] I just don't know if they have the

[00:07:13] You know look moxie yeah the moxie that's a good word if

[00:07:19] You got moxie kid, I tell you if Florida

[00:07:24] Gets in the penalty trouble and shit like that. The Rangers are gonna clean up, you know

[00:07:28] You you cannot give that power play that that many

[00:07:33] Attempts without it biting you in the ass

[00:07:35] So if they can keep it play up to you know that line and don't cross it

[00:07:41] I you know, everyone is calling for a long series and and you know what?

[00:07:46] Maybe right. I just don't see it. I don't see a world where Florida is gonna lose this series

[00:07:53] Yeah, yeah

[00:07:54] Well me neither. I'm calling for a sweep. You sure are apparently yeah, and I mean whatever

[00:08:00] I know the Rangers got a good team this year

[00:08:02] I know they performed well, but I think they're running into a much better team and

[00:08:06] I don't expect Florida to drop the ball like frankly the way Carolina did well

[00:08:12] I thought Carolina matched up better with the Rangers than it turned out

[00:08:16] But well, let's let's look at this right?

[00:08:18] The Rangers have their first round against a team in the Capitals that

[00:08:23] No, nobody thinks they should have been there and the fact that they definitely the worst team to make the playoffs. Yeah

[00:08:29] So the Rangers dispatch them quickly four games. It's over

[00:08:33] And then they get a Carolina team that kind of

[00:08:36] Didn't seem to really get playing their best hockey until around game three game four and at that point

[00:08:43] You know two of the games they lost in overtime and it came down to

[00:08:47] Just leaky goaltending at the end, you know and and Rangers win if

[00:08:53] You have a goalie in net other than Anderson like me a guy like, you know, Igor Shisurkin

[00:09:00] There's a game seven

[00:09:01] right

[00:09:02] But they got leaky goaltending and they lost the series and

[00:09:06] Then juxtaposed that with Florida like Florida already went through

[00:09:11] Vasilevsky and Jeremy Swainman

[00:09:13] Right everyone said yeah, Igor, Igor

[00:09:15] Right everyone said yeah, Igor Igor might I'm giving you them a game because I think Igor will steal him a game

[00:09:21] But I just yeah, I can see that

[00:09:24] Because his counterpart at the other end is this you know, I hate to say it is not Anderson. He's much

[00:09:30] Yeah, but Bob was confident Bob. He's very competent and he's been here before he knows what he's doing

[00:09:36] So I'm looking forward to this series

[00:09:38] I'm really hoping that we're all right and that the Panthers move on and it's it's Dallas and Florida because that's the final

[00:09:45] That it should be we that's what that would be a series. Yes

[00:09:50] so Dan

[00:09:51] Yes, sir

[00:09:53] We said there were

[00:09:55] Two huge things that Tom Fitzgerald had to do this offseason

[00:10:01] Yes, these big game goalie hunting was one of those things and the second thing was he's got to hire the right coach

[00:10:09] Yes

[00:10:10] So today it is announced that Sheldon

[00:10:14] Yes, is the new head coach of our New Jersey Devils he's the man behind the bench

[00:10:20] How do you feel about Sheldon Keefe?

[00:10:22] Coaching this team moving forward

[00:10:25] we talked about not wanting to you know get any let's call it Toronto runoff, you know and

[00:10:31] We have so, you know, there's that but you know

[00:10:34] I think it was you maybe who reminded us all that me that's where we got a pet burns, right?

[00:10:38] Yeah, and so if it works out like that I'll be very happy I'm more than willing to give him a

[00:10:46] Warm welcome and the benefit of doubt and let's hope nothing but the best for Sheldon Keefe

[00:10:53] James Nichols put out a

[00:10:56] Tweet a post an X whatever

[00:11:00] Let me just pull this up real quick

[00:11:03] Do do do do do do and he said that

[00:11:07] Because there was a lot of talk why this took so long with Sheldon Keefe

[00:11:11] Apparently wasn't sure if he wanted to coach again this season

[00:11:14] He thought about maybe taking the season off and so James Nichols put out

[00:11:19] Told one of the factors in Keefe jumping right back into coaching was the New Jersey Devils roster being too talented to pass up

[00:11:27] Mmm, so I like it

[00:11:30] I really like the idea of Sheldon Keefe and I think if you look at

[00:11:35] You know Sheldon keeps regular season record. This guy's a winner, you know, he brings Toronto to playoffs every year and

[00:11:42] I don't know how you anybody in their right mind can look at their failures in the playoffs and say this is all on

[00:11:47] The coach I blame in the curse of Toronto. I mean, it's just it's become a curse

[00:11:52] It's and it precedes Keefe by a lot. Yes, it does

[00:11:56] You know, and he did a great job with that team and I think that team had a lot of divas on it

[00:12:01] I think that team is a very difficult team smart. Yeah Mitch Marner

[00:12:06] For one the main diva

[00:12:09] But you're also in Toronto, you know, you're in the media market that is, you know even worse than New York

[00:12:15] When it comes to hockey this guy's getting shit from every angle every reporter every journalist every insider every

[00:12:23] Podcaster every you know everywhere and then plus, you know

[00:12:28] Tree-living and and Brendan Shanahan. They're not hands-off guys

[00:12:33] They they're they're going to get there. So I think that he had a lot of things going against him in Toronto

[00:12:39] So I'm really interested in and excited to see how he does coming here. Yeah, it's a

[00:12:46] You're in the like, you know outskirts of the New York media market

[00:12:51] But the one thing he's gonna figure out soon is that nobody cares about the Devils

[00:12:56] So he's gonna be able to just coach his team the way he wants to coach it

[00:13:00] The best Devils coaches have used that as a strength

[00:13:03] Being you know out of the main spotlight because New York is so close and yeah

[00:13:09] He's gonna appreciate that coming from Toronto because you're right. It's not even like oh kind of like New York

[00:13:16] It's so much worse for

[00:13:18] Toronto Maple Leafs organization that players the coaches everybody there

[00:13:22] It's like the national team of the you know, English-speaking

[00:13:27] Nations. Yeah, like that. There is no bigger team than Toronto. So like the media there is just insane

[00:13:32] It's it's a you know, and it's their largest city

[00:13:36] So yeah, you can only imagine what it's like to be a player or coach there

[00:13:41] It's gonna be just totally living in the fishbowl, you know here in America like anything hockey no matter what city you're in

[00:13:47] It's still hockey right, you know, and there's a really good chance. You're not gonna get noticed walking up and down the street

[00:13:52] That's fair, you know, but that's not true and Toronto and you know

[00:13:57] He's the type of guy who's gonna let our

[00:14:00] You know our skilled guys

[00:14:03] Be creative and go out there and kind of do their thing

[00:14:06] I'm real curious to see who he's gonna bring in as assistance

[00:14:08] Who's he gonna bring to coach our defense who's gonna be coaching our special teams, I'm real curious to see about that

[00:14:15] Yeah, I'm excited man. I want to get this Stanley Cup playoff over with let's get into free agency and start building this team

[00:14:22] Man, yeah, so it's it's nice to have the out of the way we were talking about, you know

[00:14:28] We didn't want to just drag on and like, you know

[00:14:31] See start getting more pieces in terms of players and still not know who your coach is

[00:14:36] Yeah, I mean as LA just hired

[00:14:39] Hiller they took the interim off of his

[00:14:42] Coach and then now he's the head coach full-time there

[00:14:45] So I think the only vacancies right now are Winnipeg in Seattle

[00:14:50] I think I could be wrong about that, but I think those are the only

[00:14:55] Vacancies so, you know who you're gonna plug

[00:14:57] I mean I would have if it wasn't Sheldon Keefe

[00:15:00] Yeah, I would have really liked them to go after a guy without NHL experience

[00:15:06] So we yeah, we brought up a couple names

[00:15:08] There was that you know one college coach who had he seemed like he was a good fit early on we talked about

[00:15:13] Him and then just somebody not too long ago. Well, we brought me a J. Pandolfo just for kind of shits and giggles

[00:15:17] But yeah Panda right exactly

[00:15:20] That'd be kind of wild now. I think this is a good professional hiring

[00:15:24] You know, you got to say like for what was out there. I think that it's more than acceptable

[00:15:29] And you know, I give Fitzgerald credit for doing that and I think he could be very successful to doubles

[00:15:35] You know, I'm optimistic on it. I am too and

[00:15:38] You heard Jesper Bratt got engaged. Oh

[00:15:42] Yeah, yeah. Congratulations to good good for her too, you know, yeah

[00:15:47] She's a very very nice girl

[00:15:50] When I say they're all nice family. Yeah, I well a buddy that I worked with actually was friends with her

[00:15:58] Before her and brat were together

[00:15:59] so when I met Jesper Brad and they all came in for dinner like she

[00:16:04] noticed the dude I worked with so they were bullshit and so he introduced me and everything and

[00:16:10] Yeah, she was very nice. Like I said great family

[00:16:13] I am just becoming a huge Jesper Bratt fan like two years ago

[00:16:18] I want I wasn't sure if I even want this guy on the team and I am becoming a big just Jesper Bratt fan

[00:16:24] I

[00:16:26] Hope and he just completely shreds next year

[00:16:28] I hope that you know with the coaches stuff worked out everything's going well and he has just a

[00:16:34] Fantastic year because he's incredibly talented. He he can do great things. Yeah, it's gonna be fun

[00:16:39] I'm so excited for next season, but the first time no injured we're gonna want to fucking hang ourselves

[00:16:46] Well, yeah, I mean that you know, can you imagine if we go like I don't know the whole month of October

[00:16:52] No injuries, you know October November we're gonna be like this is what we've been waiting for, you know

[00:16:57] I mean that's gonna be something awesome

[00:17:00] Cuz yeah, we definitely paid our dues. I mean injuries

[00:17:03] Hopefully we don't have anything close to that next year and you look at this final four, right?

[00:17:08] These are four teams that stayed healthy all year

[00:17:12] I mean you have sorry you you can't when you deal with injuries the way the Devils did this year

[00:17:18] It's near impossible to you know crawl out of that hole

[00:17:23] Yeah, and then there was so much other bullshit that went on. Oh, yeah Devils last season. So I'm absolutely

[00:17:29] I'm really you know, I know a lot of people go on well who are the real Devils are they?

[00:17:34] 2022 23 Devils or to 23 24 Devils, but I think they're more the 22 23 Devils. I really do

[00:17:40] I can't say that last year

[00:17:44] Look at these things what makes you think they won't be repeated

[00:17:46] Well, like you said the injuries are huge the distractions are huge and you take those things out of the mix

[00:17:53] I think there's no reason to think they can't be very similar to the team that

[00:17:58] Didn't have all those injuries didn't have those distractions two years ago

[00:18:02] So, you know, I mean really the core is there and imagine having a year with oh, I don't know

[00:18:07] Dougie Hamilton on your team, you know, and then it's so many others who had to come and go and you know

[00:18:12] I'm gonna coach from day one

[00:18:15] Yeah, exactly and

[00:18:17] So as Devils fans you got a lot to be optimistic for I think we're all just like alright hurry up

[00:18:23] Oh, you know gonna try to enjoy my summer

[00:18:25] But yeah, I can't wait for hockey to start up again

[00:18:28] That's just gonna be a lot to look forward to. No looming indictment to fucking you know

[00:18:34] The the fucking rapist and you know that kind of shit like that's behind the organization

[00:18:40] That's over all things that were issues and you know cause

[00:18:46] People to not be able to just focus on playing hockey, which is all these guys want to do

[00:18:51] Jack getting the surgery. He should be healthier than he's been in a long time

[00:18:56] So that's definitely what has it gone down yet or go down

[00:19:01] He did yeah, there was some shit online about Jack

[00:19:05] I don't go on to like devil Twitter too much

[00:19:08] But it would I guess he has a girlfriend and his girlfriend is either

[00:19:14] Pro Israel or Jewish or whatever and all these people are like bashing this dude for dating a girl

[00:19:22] People need to mind their fucking business like about everything. It's tough

[00:19:26] I know I get you know everybody you know I understand people have causes, but but talk about things being removed

[00:19:33] You know this is a yeah guy who's he's there playing hockey, and I don't know

[00:19:38] you know I

[00:19:39] I'm sure I don't know. I don't want to speak for him, but I'm sure he's not making a political statement

[00:19:44] Does any if anybody's ever heard Jack talk and kind of see what kind of guy he is

[00:19:50] I mean, I don't think that you know the

[00:19:52] The you know geopolitical nature of what's going on in the Middle East is his forefront of what he's all about like come on

[00:19:59] Like you know like let the guy date

[00:20:02] Whoever he wants do whatever he wants and just back off like people are just brutal online man

[00:20:08] Yeah, I mean that's just the way of

[00:20:10] The world today. You know it's just

[00:20:13] But people do get upset about just about everything yes, and that is a fake outrage

[00:20:18] None of it is fucking real. It's all yeah

[00:20:22] It's like you know doing your time in the barrel that seems like any public figure will at some point

[00:20:28] it's just a matter of when and

[00:20:31] Sometimes it feels like it just you know

[00:20:33] Like in this case. It's kind of like a outside public figure. You know it's like for what?

[00:20:39] You know I guess maybe people were on the lookout for athletes saying stuff because you know you had a

[00:20:45] What's the name the kicker going on about stuff people that's another one?

[00:20:48] He had to say and I could care less. I honestly don't even know what he said

[00:20:53] I know you pissed some people off. I have no interest in whatever this kicker said

[00:20:59] With Buckner and and again fake outrage

[00:21:03] but I

[00:21:04] To me I didn't like other than people

[00:21:07] Going out saying this guy's a fucking idiot for what he said like I didn't hear anybody saying that the chiefs

[00:21:14] Maybe they were out there

[00:21:15] I didn't didn't see them like the chief should get rid of this guy or any I didn't hear any of that

[00:21:19] Where I heard this fake outrage was like on the right?

[00:21:24] Talking about how everybody wants to cancel this guy and I was like I didn't hear anybody cancel

[00:21:29] The only thing people were saying was this is just an out-of-touch douche which yeah, this is America

[00:21:34] You want to be an out-of-touch douche go ahead?

[00:21:36] Well a lot of times we skip right to the point where we're all outraged that there's outrage

[00:21:42] Okay, I noticed that in news things that come up. It's like

[00:21:46] Did you hear what this person do you hear what these people are?

[00:21:49] Complaining about this person saying and they're like no not only did not hear about them complaining

[00:21:54] I don't know. I didn't hear the person they were complaining about and that's why I'm happier than you

[00:22:01] No, I get it

[00:22:02] I mean, you know

[00:22:02] There's constantly you're gonna come across that what's in real life and they're definitely put in front of you on TV social media

[00:22:09] Whatever and you know eventually just it's like, you know driving a car

[00:22:13] I can't go very far before I'm like who are these fucking people around me?

[00:22:18] Like I mean literally I can't I can't drive more than like, you know

[00:22:22] Ten minutes without running into three assholes. Mm-hmm

[00:22:24] and

[00:22:25] so, you know, it's I don't know I get it but it's some sometimes especially with the social media stuff it feels I

[00:22:33] Feel like I'm being manipulated or somebody's trying a minute

[00:22:36] like they're trying to manipulate everybody's emotions their sense of outrage and

[00:22:41] I think it's kind of like human nature, right? We get to like look and

[00:22:45] You know the same reason there's traffic jams at an accident everybody wants to see it

[00:22:49] Yeah, everybody wants to see the socially inappropriate person or the response to this most, you know, socially inappropriate person that you know and

[00:22:59] Thing dude. Yeah, it is. It is sometimes you just want to dip out

[00:23:03] I get it

[00:23:04] I mean we all kind of find something where we want to bring up and talk about we do that too and

[00:23:09] You know

[00:23:10] Sometimes yeah, even something out of hockey will be you know, do like I did you see this thing?

[00:23:15] But I think you know sometimes it's so exhausting. Yeah, right. We've made you know

[00:23:19] we're not political but we have made stands on certain things like the

[00:23:24] Jerseys and stuff like yeah

[00:23:25] How we feel in the past and stuff when all that shit was going down a couple of seasons ago

[00:23:29] We're gonna have opinions. Yeah, you know off of the subject of

[00:23:34] That nonsense did you by any chance I think it was Tuesday was today Wednesday. Yeah, it was yesterday

[00:23:42] NHL tonight

[00:23:44] huh, it was on NHL tonight on the NHL Network EJ her attic was on and

[00:23:50] He gave us not us uncle puckers, but our town a shout-out

[00:23:56] It was pretty really cool

[00:23:58] So they asked him about the Ranger Florida series and he goes

[00:24:04] I'm gonna say everybody thinks I know the answer to this he goes

[00:24:08] Today, I'm playing golf

[00:24:10] You know, I'm with my buddies names two of his guys beautiful Bailey Country Club in Tom's River, New Jersey

[00:24:16] And I was like holy shit and I every wound it. It was like did he just give us a shout-out

[00:24:21] Yeah, he did. So he J. Radick was

[00:24:23] At Bailey the other day shooting golf. That's pretty cool

[00:24:26] You know, what's funny is that that course is from what I hear from people who are big golfers

[00:24:31] I am NOT doesn't get a lot of love. So that's kind of nice that it made that

[00:24:35] I think it was the owner that he was friends with cool. Cool. So

[00:24:40] but yeah, I

[00:24:42] Golf is a game that I feel like I would really like playing

[00:24:48] Yeah, I just have

[00:24:50] Like it's weird. Like I I think I would like it but yet I have no interest to actually start playing

[00:24:57] Understand that I do I've always told myself that I don't have enough patience to play golf

[00:25:02] but I think now I probably do especially because

[00:25:08] Like only game I can keep up with the pace of that's fast is probably ping pong

[00:25:13] Right does that even count? So like I can't you know, my hockey days are premature and stuff

[00:25:18] So I think I probably could get into it

[00:25:20] But I I know I am you get obsessive I get obsessive about anything and I'm like

[00:25:26] I don't want to even start going down this road. So yeah, I don't want to get started either

[00:25:30] All right

[00:25:31] So me and you will talk about how we would be great at golf if we actually played

[00:25:36] Yeah, and then the other hand you know what like just walking across the course having a few beers

[00:25:41] I could give a fuck about you know how playing I think maybe that'd be fun

[00:25:44] I think we're gonna go play mini golf this weekend. There you go. Yeah, so that I can play

[00:25:50] Yeah, that's fun. So, you know, I know we got to kind of keep it a little bit short tonight

[00:25:54] So I am curious though. We talked about the two things that Fitzgerald's had to do and yes

[00:26:01] You know check one off the list now the goalie

[00:26:04] Yeah, I feel like the bigger question right? Yeah, we all been

[00:26:10] Feeling that's a huge part. There are quite a few teams that I think are gonna be in the goalie market

[00:26:16] Okay, I think that I think there's a chance even though Freddie Anderson is signed for another year in Carolina

[00:26:22] I would not be shocked if they try and go out and get somebody

[00:26:26] Carolina I feel like if they don't

[00:26:30] If they don't do a good job this offseason their window could slam shut

[00:26:34] They have a ton right ufas and they have some leaky goaltending and if they don't wrap up the right people

[00:26:42] Steve Coolius was talking on the NHL Network today. He believes that Jake Edsel's gone from there

[00:26:47] I have a hard time believing they would let gets a leave

[00:26:51] Right, that seems like such a great, you know person to keep yeah, I mean that's not a problem

[00:26:55] But then again if you're a gets all maybe you're saying as the first time

[00:26:59] I think this is be the first time that he can actually ever go into free agency and and yes

[00:27:05] So sure and he would be probably one of the bigger names him and Sam Reinhardt will probably be two biggest names

[00:27:12] Going in there on the forward side of it

[00:27:14] so, you know, we'll see what they do but um, you know, they have a bunch of guys but

[00:27:20] That are but they might be in the market Toronto, you know, or are they gonna go after a goalie?

[00:27:26] Joseph Wall is a good goalie, but he can't stay healthy

[00:27:29] Right. I think the LA Kings are gonna go big game hunting as well

[00:27:32] I think there are quite a few teams that are gonna make some moves and I think now if

[00:27:40] You know, we're just gonna make a trade for somebody. I was thinking about this, you know, it'd be marks from Soros

[00:27:46] Omar I'd rather have Omar

[00:27:49] Out of those guys. I've been going back to you're off the mark streams

[00:27:52] I'm off the marks from train and in Soros you were big on what's in there then?

[00:27:57] I'm kind of like, you know what? Let's do a sign and trade with all mark get him here

[00:28:01] I don't know what he's making right now. I can check

[00:28:04] Why do you think he's a better fit because you know, they're all pretty good choices

[00:28:09] I can see pluses on all of them. But why are you so sure about I'm not sure I'm just okay

[00:28:16] I like UC Soros a lot. I just yeah, I kind of feel like

[00:28:21] We might even even though they're in our conference

[00:28:24] I think we might be able to make them more of a fair trade with Boston and we're going to be able to with

[00:28:29] Nashville I just feel like Barry trots is just gonna do everything he can to fleece us as much as possible

[00:28:34] So I just I worry about that and then maybe that's just me. I don't know but

[00:28:41] The you're you thinking of a history with trots that I'm not like well, you know

[00:28:44] He came out like basically they when we were talking to him in the regular season when Fitzgerald was talking to him

[00:28:49] Okay came out and he was like I've told it sure like anybody you're the one that needs to go

[00:28:54] Yeah, not me right, you know, I do remember that comment now that does sound like somebody who's gonna be a pain in your ass

[00:29:01] Exactly. We'll find out, you know, so in in

[00:29:04] 2021 Linus all mark

[00:29:07] Signed a four-year

[00:29:09] 20 million dollar contract so four million a year

[00:29:13] Right. So I mean that's not bad. I mean they get the guy

[00:29:18] You know what you do a sign and trade maybe another four years at you know

[00:29:23] 25

[00:29:24] Or something, you know, right give the guy a bit of a raise

[00:29:28] But out of the like Soros all mark and Markstrom who would you like to see I?

[00:29:34] Mean I was feeling very positive on Soros last we looked at him

[00:29:39] I'll be honest with you. I think that any of the three will be a

[00:29:43] Huge improvement and and the best goalie on paper. We've had in this organization since per door

[00:29:48] Yeah, well you see so that's the exact same contract. So yeah, it's four years for 20

[00:29:54] I honestly on you there's a little bit of pluses and minuses with all of them. I

[00:30:00] I

[00:30:01] There's something about source. I like the way his style of play best

[00:30:05] That's kind of why I'm leaning towards him

[00:30:06] But I think that that it doesn't mean he's necessarily better that the end result is keeping pucks out of it

[00:30:12] And that's the other than that and I think Marks drink them do that for you

[00:30:15] I think oh mark can as well

[00:30:18] So I like I would be okay with any of them to be honest with you

[00:30:22] But I just kind of like sorrows better. I like sorrows his style a lot

[00:30:25] I like like we talked about when it comes to his type type of play we

[00:30:30] Everybody every other goal is kind of cut and paste except, you know

[00:30:33] There are a few that aren't and he's definitely one that's not so it's interesting. It's more fun watching him play

[00:30:40] I'd be very happy with you see sorrows and very happy with Lena Solmar

[00:30:44] I would also and I go back to just signing the free agent and in the rain Bersua and

[00:30:51] You know, I mean we selling Markstrom's at the bottom of your list

[00:30:54] Yeah, you see some negatives with Markstrom. This is age. That's the only okay

[00:30:58] I mean if we're gonna that is a consideration if we're gonna trade for somebody

[00:31:02] I want somebody, you know, look you're not gonna get anything out of I don't think got a Markstrom over

[00:31:07] After this contract so you got him for two years

[00:31:10] How much are you willing to give up for a goalie on the back end of his?

[00:31:15] career

[00:31:16] For two years like that's a great point. That's a great point, you know

[00:31:21] That what is true of what they can give us this season next season

[00:31:25] You gotta look at the longer term and you're right Markstrom does not have as a better

[00:31:29] You know longer term is the other guy. So, you know, you see sorrows

[00:31:33] Lorraine Bersua

[00:31:35] Lena Solmar you can have them for four to six years

[00:31:38] You can be your guy now now maybe Markstrom makes more sense if you're Tom Fitzgerald. Maybe he says well, I want my

[00:31:46] You know, whoever Nico Dawes Akira Schmidt. I want whoever it is to be my guy in two years

[00:31:53] Would you do that though? Would you would you pick and based on what you know of the existing Devils goalies in the organization?

[00:32:00] Would you make that your goalie deal now?

[00:32:03] You're out big-game hunting and you got to come back with something to show for your hunting this year

[00:32:10] But are you thinking in consideration of yeah, but and you're to Nico Dawes gonna be the Akira Schmitz coming back, baby

[00:32:17] Yeah, I mean you were are you really thinking that?

[00:32:19] It cares miss playing well in the world's right now, but I'm not saying he can't

[00:32:23] I know but I mean did you bank on it?

[00:32:25] You know

[00:32:25] You know

[00:32:26] You do have to stop at some point and think about whether or not you're then if that's not the case then you got

[00:32:31] To move on from some of these guys then then if we are gonna trade

[00:32:34] Throwing a Kira Schmidt in a trade or even an ego Dawes in the trade

[00:32:37] You got to get rid of some of these guys because every year you're drafting a goalie and then eventually one of them's gonna hit

[00:32:43] at some point excuse me, you would you would think but I

[00:32:48] Don't even know if Lorraine Bersuah would be on

[00:32:51] Tom Fitzgerald's radar, you know when you say something like big game hunting. Does that anybody think of Lorraine Bersuah? I

[00:32:59] Think there'll be a lot of I don't say casual devil fans

[00:33:02] But people who haven't heard his name was on the chest

[00:33:05] They're gonna be like who is this guy?

[00:33:07] I get it because he has the lesser name there a lot of people have heard of the others

[00:33:12] Yeah, and and yes so much the devil's Twitter will be on fire over that one. I'll tell you that

[00:33:17] I don't think it's such a bad move

[00:33:19] You made a point that maybe it's even a better move than going after Markstrom that you could be right about that

[00:33:24] I mean, I understand also that he's you know, he he's not he doesn't quite have the name yet for a reason

[00:33:30] You know, he doesn't have as many think overall wins and games and everything else

[00:33:34] Like to find out no not that yeah Markstrom right or even old mark I don't think no, I don't think so

[00:33:42] but like

[00:33:44] if

[00:33:44] Like does any devil fan right now look at this team and as it's constructed and just with Jake Allen

[00:33:51] On this team, like how do you not look at him and say we already got a lot better in goal starting for next

[00:33:56] Yeah, yeah

[00:33:57] Absolutely. Absolutely. Honestly, that's that's your backup plan. Although you told everybody you go in big game hunting

[00:34:03] Which you know if you take Allen you're like motherfucker

[00:34:06] Now what do you mean? You say you can't come back with me. Well, right, um, you know, like maybe maybe

[00:34:13] He's not such a bad plan

[00:34:15] If nothing like if you had to give up the farm to get any of these guys if that's the the market he sees

[00:34:21] Which you know, admittedly is gonna be a loss for

[00:34:24] For Fitzgerald if he comes back with nothing

[00:34:27] But you know what? That's not the worst thing in the world. I'm giving away everything

[00:34:32] For a short-term guy or a guy who can let's face it get injured shit the bed, whatever

[00:34:37] That would be maybe the worst

[00:34:39] Even if not immediately so and so Jake Allen's very serviceable. I'd like Jake Allen

[00:34:45] It just you know

[00:34:46] He's another guy that's on the back end of his career and you just you want a true number one to

[00:34:52] Play in front of him

[00:34:53] You don't want to give this guy the lion's share of reps

[00:34:56] Because I think he will break down at the end of the year when we're gonna need a very host

[00:35:00] But if you give him limited time and you know limited snaps so to speak

[00:35:05] I think he's gonna be stellar every night. He's out there

[00:35:08] Yep, now Lorraine Bersois is this season. He is was 15 5 & 2

[00:35:18] With a goals against average of 2 and a save percent average of 0.9 to 7

[00:35:24] Right now good numbers small sample. No, even his career is small sample

[00:35:29] He's

[00:35:30] career-wise 64 46 and 13

[00:35:34] that says his a

[00:35:36] Career record with a goals against of 2 6 4 and a save percentage of 9 11

[00:35:43] Okay, those are good numbers. Yeah now compare that to Linus Omar

[00:35:50] This year he was 22 10 and 7 for a 2 5 7 goals against and a 9 1 5 save percentage

[00:35:59] And career. I mean his numbers are fucking good

[00:36:02] 138 73 23 for 2 5 1 goals against and a point 9 1 8 save percentage

[00:36:08] Yeah, those are good fucking numbers

[00:36:11] Oh, and the last guy I guess is a UC Soros. Definitely. We'll see where he's at

[00:36:17] We're gonna never spell his fucking name, right? You know how to spell his

[00:36:28] First name it's like it's like Sauron but with a first name. Is it J you?

[00:36:33] J you you si or the I got him. Thank you. Yes to use so you see you you you

[00:36:41] This year he was 35 24 and 5 for 286 goals against and a 906 save percentage

[00:36:49] Career he's 182

[00:36:52] 119 and 32 for a 2 6 3 goals against and a 9 1 7 save percentage

[00:36:58] So pretty impressive today's NHL very impressive. Those are good numbers

[00:37:02] For both of these, you know all three of the guys have pretty decent numbers

[00:37:07] Again I would be I would be happy with any one of them, but you gotta go and get one of them

[00:37:12] So yeah, no, it's I think it's gonna happen

[00:37:16] When do you expect to hear?

[00:37:19] Well this I mean do we have a timetable of people saying when is the most likely time for them to make a move on?

[00:37:25] This is what I was gonna ask you can they make a trade now

[00:37:29] Like is there is there any restrictions that were do they have to wait until I thought it was like the day after the I

[00:37:36] Don't know. It's a good question

[00:37:38] Like is it the same for free agents and because I would think that they would probably not

[00:37:44] Make a trade until the start of the league year

[00:37:48] Yeah, I don't know

[00:37:50] and

[00:37:52] Like are there loopholes in other words? Can you do it trade but you can't do a free agency until after

[00:37:59] Well, I'm trying to grab all about the trade deadline, but let's see if they have any other yeah

[00:38:06] News on that some summer restriction time at some point. Let me see

[00:38:13] Yeah, I mean it would just be nice to get that settled too. But um, you know, this is a fan

[00:38:23] You just got the anticipation you want to be

[00:38:26] You want to be satisfied now, but I'm just I am curious about when I can expect it to go down

[00:38:31] yeah, I mean if you can do it because

[00:38:33] Lena Solmark already asked for a trade so he wants out of Boston

[00:38:37] So that you know, that's kind of why I was and now there's been some rumors rumbling that you know

[00:38:42] Of course as soon as he says he wants to trade everyone starts going let's you know

[00:38:47] Get him to the devil's get him to the devil's so

[00:38:50] You know, that's pretty much all I heard right now

[00:38:54] But I was gonna say like if they have to wait till the league year, which would it be what June?

[00:38:59] First is that the first day of free agency or the draft or whatever and

[00:39:03] Yeah, that day because you can trade my draft. So

[00:39:08] Does that that maybe draft day is the day that it starts? That could be that could be we got to do a little research

[00:39:14] Yeah, I gotta find that out now if

[00:39:18] The trade that if they can trade now well then I it could happen whenever you know

[00:39:25] Well, then I it could happen whenever you know

[00:39:29] I'm trying to think I haven't heard of any other trades. So I feel like there's probably a reason. Yeah, it's probably can't

[00:39:35] It's probably then July 1st, which would be the probably that's the start of the league year

[00:39:40] but well

[00:39:40] I'll check on that for for the next show because that is interesting because when I guess if we could expect that I would

[00:39:46] expect if that's when it starts and I would honestly expect that a

[00:39:51] Deal for a goalie would be made on trade day

[00:39:54] Right. So I mean would you give up?

[00:39:58] Alex Holtz the number 10 pick for Linus Omar

[00:40:02] Yeah, I

[00:40:04] Think I would I mean we have such a severe need for

[00:40:07] Goaltending that I'm not gonna worry about the pick for a guy that had a hard time fitting in on this team

[00:40:12] Anyway, and I'm even saying it's all his fault. A lot of it was Lindy. He might have a future with this team

[00:40:16] I'm not saying he doesn't I am but um, he did have a hard time fitting in with his team

[00:40:21] That's just fact and I do think he probably continue will continue to it

[00:40:26] Odds are even under Keith, but who knows?

[00:40:30] Yeah, he's 10th overall pick it that's that's significant, but man look at our goaltending. Oh, I mean this year

[00:40:38] I think next to injuries. It was the number one thing that let us down, you know, I think Boston would do that

[00:40:46] Yeah, yeah, I think that could that could work

[00:40:49] And I think Alex Holtz I do not think he should be on this team next year

[00:40:55] Like you got it. He that you said that he's not fitting in for whatever reason

[00:40:59] But you also look at this team and we essentially if you include Alex Holtz had three rookies starting last year in Nemitz Hughes

[00:41:06] and an out fault

[00:41:09] Nemitz and Hughes who had

[00:41:13] The hardest assignments the most minutes

[00:41:16] These guys didn't break down these guys got better as it went they grew

[00:41:21] Yeah, of course there were bad games and there's going to be bad games with these guys

[00:41:25] It's going to happen. But when you see that there there were times all year where you saw

[00:41:32] Holy shit. These guys are gonna be really fucking good. When this year did you watch Alex Holtz and ever think that?

[00:41:40] No, I know and I always have a hard time picturing him cracking through and doing all he's capable of

[00:41:47] It's a weird thing to say cuz like you see he's talented

[00:41:50] So he's capable of things but I don't see it happen right now

[00:41:53] You know, sometimes you're wrong about that and what they really need is the change scenery

[00:41:58] So you mentioned Boston and I think of Pablo Zocca and he's done, you know, especially his first year with the trade there

[00:42:05] He did so much well and which better did so well with Boston

[00:42:10] I kind of maybe you know, like maybe Holtz would have that kind of we often over there

[00:42:15] We often called Alex Holtz Pablo Zocca like, you know

[00:42:18] They are very similar in everything and just you know how they play what they're good at

[00:42:26] Their struggles in the NHL and until you know not fitting in not fitting in and until recently Pablo Zocca

[00:42:33] You know in Boston he found is a spot that he's comfortable in that uses them the right way

[00:42:37] Maybe this year you can argue that he was misused a little bit but um, you know a little too much on his plate

[00:42:43] But you know when you lose Crachy and Bergeron, you know

[00:42:46] You guys got to step up and they still made the playoffs and they still made it to the second round and you know

[00:42:52] That could be you know Holtz trajectory. It's very possible

[00:42:55] I don't see it for whatever other say this. I don't see him doing all he can do with the doubles

[00:43:01] I don't know. I don't know if I can give you an exact reason why it's just not

[00:43:07] Doesn't seem likely but it doesn't I agree. I totally agree and I really want to see Nolan foot in

[00:43:14] This on this team this year. I think he's deserved it. I like everything he brings we need a bigger body

[00:43:22] Mm-hmm. I think he's the type of bottom six guy

[00:43:25] This team's really really could use and so I'm where we have with some of our others because I feel like

[00:43:31] I might be a little hazy about did we lose Chris Tierney? Is he done with us?

[00:43:36] He's a ufa I don't I mean I'm guessing I know for Zina RFA. I don't know if we're I don't know who that

[00:43:43] Fitzgerald is really interested in tendering. I wouldn't be surprised if guys like Tierney no sick. They're all gone

[00:43:51] Right, but I will see right now who are free agents are you know?

[00:43:57] I really want to see back just because I love this place so much as last year was Lazar. Well, he's under contract

[00:44:03] That's great. Yeah, so we're fine with him. So

[00:44:07] Thinking about this lot of six guys. Yeah, he was he was very key there

[00:44:11] Those are will definitely be on this team and I hope that he's on this team for a long time

[00:44:16] I don't ever want to see I like everything Curtis Lazar brings

[00:44:20] Yeah, it's just the way he played

[00:44:22] I mean, I just wish we could have had more people playing with his kind of effort. That was great

[00:44:28] Yeah, yeah, he brings a lot. All right, so

[00:44:31] These are mostly guys that like Akira Schmid. He's arbitration eligible

[00:44:39] RFA

[00:44:40] Keith Kincaid is a UFA

[00:44:42] Let's see. Nobody cares about Keith Kincaid

[00:44:45] So Nico does everybody blockade he's up. Yeah, Nico Dawes is an RFA

[00:44:51] right, so

[00:44:53] Dawes

[00:44:54] Let's see

[00:44:56] What we need so to actually tender him

[00:45:01] He'll not be so it says

[00:45:05] His entry-level contract is ending after this season. He'll become an RFA

[00:45:10] He'll not be eligible for arbitration, but could stand to make more than

[00:45:15] $850,000 cap hit he currently owns so Dawes can show to the Devils that he's can be an NHL player

[00:45:22] Perhaps enough to be with the Devils all the way through which he wasn't

[00:45:27] So yeah, I mean I liked a lot about Dawes

[00:45:30] I mean, you know, I was trying to say like, you know, I think Fitzgerald can't you know say I'm

[00:45:36] Paving the way for my I just know

[00:45:39] Nico Dawes or Akira Schmid is gonna hit

[00:45:42] You know in a year or two, so I don't want to sign a guy for a long term

[00:45:46] I just can't imagine you you can even think that I think that same time

[00:45:50] I want that, you know, I would love to have a homegrown goaltender

[00:45:53] But I also think your logic should be I'm gonna I agree with you because I think that the logic of what?

[00:46:00] Smart GM and what Tom Fitzgerald how he probably is looking at it is I need to get an old mark of Swainman

[00:46:06] I mean an old mark a sorrows to mark from Bersuah whatever for four

[00:46:11] Maybe five six years and in that time. I've got to hit on my future like that's how you have to write at it

[00:46:18] I got a draft the right guy in the next four years

[00:46:21] I'm gonna give myself that time to go out and get them now as far as our defensive free agents

[00:46:25] This is super easy

[00:46:27] I think none of these guys return two of them are already gone. Cal foot. He's gone Colin Miller

[00:46:32] He's gone. The last one is Brendan Smith. Like I don't no one sees a place for Brendan Smith on this team, right?

[00:46:38] I hope not like even as it's look I I don't want him on the team

[00:46:43] It's a shame because I do like a lot about sure. I don't want him on the scene

[00:46:47] but

[00:46:48] What you will call it you you if you're going to have a seventh defenseman

[00:46:55] I would much rather see Nick DeSimone in that spot than Brendan Smith

[00:46:58] I'd like to see him be our seventh guy pops in you know once in a while and give a spell to the guys

[00:47:04] I liked what I saw. He had some really

[00:47:07] Clunkers of games too, but he did play really well

[00:47:10] So we have some forwards that are our phase a couple ufas

[00:47:16] So Dawson Mercer's an RFA. I'm sure they're gonna tender him McCloud's off the fucking team

[00:47:21] Hopefully out of the league Nolan foot is an RFA and Shane Bowers is an RFA. I think we signed Shane Bowers already

[00:47:28] I think we signed him. I'm not sure if we signed Nolan foot if we

[00:47:33] Took care of him tower to Foley's off the team and these are and we did take Max Wilman

[00:47:38] We brought back he's a ufa and the other two guys are Thomas nosik and Chris Tierney

[00:47:42] So the Devils don't have a whole lot of housekeeping to do this year when it comes to getting guys signed

[00:47:48] It really is you know Dawson Mercer and

[00:47:52] Nolan foot are probably the two main guys right right yeah after that you know all lesser names

[00:47:58] Yeah, if you can't pull that off

[00:47:59] You know you should have the money for that that shouldn't be a problem so that I'm not even worried about us even losing

[00:48:05] Anybody I can see a world where they maybe bring back Thomas nosik

[00:48:08] But with them signing Bowers, I think that that could very well be his spot next year that foresee

[00:48:14] I'd like to see him playing with you know fashion and and

[00:48:20] McDermott on and off and Curtis Lazar on the other side right that that could be a good fourth line

[00:48:25] Oh, yeah, all right, so I think anything else you want to chat about tonight. I

[00:48:30] Mean that's that that about covers it for now

[00:48:33] I mean what we're eager to find out is how these

[00:48:36] You know conference final games go and they're all starting out

[00:48:39] So we doing some more you know wrap-ups in the in the following shows let's go Panthers. That's all

[00:48:46] So alright said it we're gonna. I'm gonna go watch that game now, so we're gonna wrap this thing up

[00:48:51] Thanks guys for so much for checking us out if you were looking for the draft show it will happen

[00:48:55] Before the draft and we will work out all the bugs because the third time's a charm

[00:48:59] We're gonna do this one way or another so apologize to Joe again, and thanks again

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