The Ending Should Be Fun

[00:00:11] Hey everyone, Mr. Deva here is Danny Dannick, a three-time Stanley Chuck Chan, who is a New Jersey Devil, a year-lessening of the Uncle Puckers and Jersey Devil's podcast with Chris Dan Bobby and Tony, The Uncle Puckers, let's go devils!

[00:00:30] I think they're going to make it interesting guys, right? It doesn't just say, and I think they're going to make it interesting. I don't have much faith that they're going to make it, but I think it's going to be a fun next week.

[00:00:45] I think I figured out what the problem has been this year. It's Tyler to fully. He's the problem. He's gone, you know? You took all the goals with him. Maybe he was bullying Tim O'Mire and now without him. You're not on drape a lot, kind of.

[00:01:01] And under plough? His idea to put him on a third line is like, you keep that guy far away from me as possible. No, I don't know. It was great to see Tim O'Uxpload and be the player we wanted him to be. Oh, yeah. And it was awesome.

[00:01:16] And it makes you think, oh boy, if this team somehow could squeeze in, despite whatever mismanagement problems we have, it can still be very, very interesting. You're going to need dolls to like blossom at the same time or Schmidt, but probably does.

[00:01:33] I mean, I mean, you know what we'll get into it. But are we even to say anybody think we're going for anything right now or is this the team? Well, if Tom Fitzgeralds to be believes, he said he's hoping to get a first rounder for to fully tomorrow.

[00:01:49] Maybe if not that, a couple of second rounders and multiple picks. And that's pretty much always playing on Dylan. He said to get a number one goalie before three o'clock tomorrow is going to be a little hard. So that's a summer problem.

[00:02:04] I could see a veteran goalie coming in though. I don't know who just yeah, because this way it's not dolls and or Schmidt. It's a veteran in one of the other. Maybe just to help.

[00:02:17] I definitely think to fully gone, of course, and that'll all just be packaged up for whatever we're going to do this summer. You know, I wouldn't think that you know, Miller might not be here either.

[00:02:27] If I were a team looking for a guy that want to add on for a place before he's so excited. Yeah, and we'd probably pick up something decent for him. Not in the likes of to fully. Here's the thing like I get the idea.

[00:02:40] But this team still has a shot if they squeak in. So it's going to be a shame if they do and you're down. You're leading score forward all year and you're down. Who has been? It'd be one of your more consistent defensemen. I totally agree. Yeah.

[00:02:59] You know, apparently the report was out that they were a part on term. They were really close to signing an extension. Fitzgerald wanted them. I think three to four years and to fully wanted a five to six year deal. Kind of got to lean with Fitzgerald on that.

[00:03:16] I don't know if I worked to fully lock up for that long. Well, especially on this team, because you do have to look forward and you have to look at the other down tracks that are coming up.

[00:03:23] It all has to make sense down the line despite the cap going up. Oh, much better about three than four. Yeah, of course, who wouldn't, you know, lead me to fully fit in great. I love to fully.

[00:03:37] I've been saying all year that I think part of our problem would be addition by subtraction. It didn't mean that I wanted to get rid of our leading score, but it just meant there were too many top six guys.

[00:03:47] So getting rid of one of them does smooth that out a little bit. You got Timo. B&Timo today on his natural side that he likes to play. So of course, he got had. He's going to get a hatchet every time he's on the right wing now.

[00:04:01] It's just great to see and you do have a guy like Mercer Rose talking about where does he truly fit in? Is he at, is he at two, is he at three, is he at two, three? You don't know, but do you think he's responding to anything?

[00:04:15] Does he, the different Mercer? Or does he look like the same guy to use last two? I didn't see anything different than Mercer, but I just think that he's caught in one of those years.

[00:04:24] He's mixed up as well, it's not a sophomore slump, but I guess it's a junior slump. There's such a thing and he just, I still have all the confidence in the world that starting over fresh for him would work.

[00:04:37] Just like Kimo, Chris, we were texting before this again about who we thought was going to have another pop game. And I stayed with Kimo. I just feel like he finally feels free. I don't know what the dynamic was, I don't know what the breakdown was and honestly

[00:04:51] of joking he's not going to get electric every time he's on the first line right wing. But for some guys, it's as simple as their comfort zone and and I'm glad you can move more ever and they're good that way.

[00:05:02] And other guys, they don't like to be moved. It's not a good idea, but Lindy rough didn't seem to acknowledge that now. So only two games in, you think Travis Green goes, oh yeah, yeah, now we're leaving him there.

[00:05:14] And Kimo was heating up before the last two games before. As a whole line looked like there could be something kind of special grown there. Yeah, that was a really nice look in line. Palat played the best game I've seen in play as a devil.

[00:05:28] That was not in the playoffs, I'll say, because he did place a couple of very games against the Rangers, but this was a game where he really shined. So okay, Travis Green's certain who had coach and he has one practice with the team.

[00:05:41] What did you notice of these like seeing difference in the play or line changes that you liked or didn't like, like what was noticeable to you? Because to me, this team looked like the team we sort of seen all year long.

[00:05:55] Because these lines were predicted going to the season that didn't happen. Yeah, I mean more or less because we have a couple players stuff. Well, what was the hang up here? It was a Lindy play. You know, I think he did it goes for what?

[00:06:08] He goes for things so fast. You never remember. He never gave it a shot. Even as simple as just the last episode we mentioned, you can't really just give Timo a shot on the first power play right? Right. Head off immediately today. Yep.

[00:06:24] And by the way, the way Timo was shooting that was with a thirtime. Like he wasn't just sweeping in there and he looked angry at the clock. I love that. I loved everything about watching Timo played it. Everything about that line tonight was just they dominated what

[00:06:38] he's playing like a power forward now. Yeah, that goal he had in the previous game. I mean, it was a losing game. Wow, you know, he pulled his way right through. He's a kick to two. Yeah. He was a mixture of skill and power was amazing.

[00:06:50] But first to answer your question more, I mean, I think I saw a bigger commitment to defense too. In general, a little more urgency. Definitely a lot more urgency, actually. There was very few of those kind of weak zone clears.

[00:07:03] I did see one or two on the penalty kill where I was like, oh, it's going to bite us because they kind of loosely threw it towards the blue line. But not many. Like it wasn't as glaring. They just seemed tighter as a unit.

[00:07:13] You know, I guess playing for each other and all that kind of stuff. And just more urgency. That's, you know, the thing I said the other day, I think this guy's just got a little bit more of a bark that may be resonates with the team.

[00:07:24] It's hard not to get excited about this game, but there's no reason to get overly excited. I mean, the bulk of our scoring was done by one guy and then an empty netter. But it's a guy that, I mean, he's got 17 now.

[00:07:37] I mean, he could flirt with 30 in these last 19 games. Can you get that hot? You know, when I was looking at the, you know, watching this game tonight, yeah, that line was dominant when they were out there and noticeable.

[00:07:50] And then you go to the second line of was, was it Hollis entering Houston, Brad? Yeah. Right. And all I was thinking watching out is, you get these two guys really good number two sentiment and this could be a line.

[00:08:05] Like that should be something that, because Erica is not the guy. But you get a really good number two, uh, a sentiment. Little energy in size too. You know, kind of makes me wish now maybe Pauval Zaka would have been the right guy now

[00:08:20] where he is in his career in the other side. Are you saying you could possibly support Jack becoming a winner? Yeah. At the time, permanently? I mean, it really does, it's really up to Jack if to be honest with you.

[00:08:32] But with this system or however they're playing, having him on the wing, I know he played a lot on the wing his first couple years in the league, really got more into the sentiment role what mostly last year was it's like rookie year of taking every face off.

[00:08:48] So I don't know where does he like play him better? Where's he, you know, he's such a young player and so skilled in so many levels? Where's he play better? I don't know. I still think the future for him is down the center.

[00:08:58] I think you can get better at face-offs. He's going to consistently get bigger, stronger heavier as most people do just now. Yeah, that's the thing. I think since he's come back from the injury, it is look like he's got a target on.

[00:09:11] I think teams are looking at give him a good hit. Put it in a wing, gives him some protection against that. You're going to have to do a lot more, you know, stuff through the neutral zone

[00:09:20] places where you're likely to get popped as a center than you will in a, as a winger. Not that you can't get crushed as a winger, but you know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong.

[00:09:28] The possibility of actually having another true number one slash two center with jack-axe on his wing. We got a pretty deep team. So yeah, that would be pretty exciting. I don't know how you can fit all these people at some point though.

[00:09:43] I mean, so I don't have so many $8, $9 million players. I'm just saying that would be a nice fit there. Somebody, what are you writing for this year? No, for this year. I think that's what that line. I want to merge with a B-that guy.

[00:09:58] Yeah, I would maybe even try and merge in the middle of that line before. Yeah, I was trying the way he was last year. I think that could work. You know, I just think maybe swap them out because how it can play the way.

[00:10:10] It's worth a try because if that first line is demanding all the attention, it looks like they're going to demand. It's going to take it time and get a hit off the second. Yeah, and I think that that's all that second line might need.

[00:10:20] It's just a little chance to breathe that not all being on them. Let them go out there and compliment, and then next thing, you know, jack-ears is light and up every game.

[00:10:29] I just think when the whole team is going, that's when Jack's going to be at his best. I think he's, this team is way too young. I think to have one do take it on himself. The whole team's got to contribute today. They did.

[00:10:43] That was a whole team effort. A lot of guys got a lot of ice time, but you mentioned about getting hit and stuff. Did you notice the lack of physicality in that Florida game?

[00:10:57] I did, and I was actually surprised on the part of Florida, but once they went up, you know, you kind of understand that there's that have little motivation for it. But I mean, I just feel like they didn't even try and really take the body a whole lot.

[00:11:14] Like I was watching the game, and I'm kind of wondering to myself, like just having, uh, keep forgetting to do its name. Number 23 which makes it. I don't know. Just having him on the bench. Just call my thoughts. I think it kind of, yeah, right?

[00:11:28] I think it kind of has teams have kind of backed off a little bit. I've been, you know, and there's already filtering down, you think? Yeah, you can kind of see that, um, you know, and they're even got no stick line, they're hitting

[00:11:40] a little bit more now and stuff. Like when they get on the ice, they're being a little bit more productive in this game. I thought for the other time they got, of course, I think L's chance is just being wasted down there. But whatever.

[00:11:51] You know, more on that Florida game, Dan nailed it during the game when he texted us and said, like this is basically the most beatable you're going to see Florida this year. We need to come out with this win.

[00:12:01] Not only did we not, despite a decent effort, I mean, still the best team in the leagues far as I'm concerned it was a close game. But not only did we not get them when they were beatable,

[00:12:11] then you got filly today dropping the game winner with like 30 seconds left against them. So Florida doesn't do us any favors. Nope. And again, it's just another like it's getting late. It's I hate looking at those games, Bob, because that's true. The team can't control.

[00:12:28] No, you're absolutely right, too. But the, the, the, the, the, the frustrations me about that is it always makes me go, this is why you got to take advantage of those opportunities with Florida gave us every opportunity to steal that game. We'll see here in the world.

[00:12:39] You know, how many times can you say that this season? Right. Right. Yeah. But I mean, you play a super hot team that's given you a flat effort. There is not too many times that we got really gifts like that to play a team that,

[00:12:51] you know, it's like really playing well and then they come in your building or you come in totally get your point 100%. Right. They were absolutely beatable that night. Yeah. We're not going to get them at the, you know, every again.

[00:13:02] I have to watch it because to your point things that are within your control, here's how this part of the show was supposed to go today. What was supposed to happen is Florida was supposed to be filling and we were supposed to do exactly what we just did.

[00:13:17] And then in this scenario right here, we'd be down six points with a game in hand, assume the win and one game against them controlling our own destiny, which would mean we'd only have to outplay them by two points to rest of the year. Yes. Dead.

[00:13:33] Now it's eight, one, one. Now we got to outplay them by four and that's not the worst part. That was normally our track in. The problem now is that the Islanders have surpassed us and they have two games on hand

[00:13:47] on us and same with the capitals who all suddenly are playing. So it looked like we had a clearer shot that we're really having right now. But at the same time if this team can just put together efforts like this,

[00:14:01] consistently, like we've been saying all year, this is going to be a big week coming up, run a lot of a couple more wins and we see where everyone else has gone because now I was studying the lightning can't win.

[00:14:09] Maybe in a week we're talking back about the eighth seed instead of the first time. What do you think that was fans should do? Should they be hopeful? Should they pray, sacrifice to go or should you just basically do a boo? I do that.

[00:14:22] I love that, that's true. But it's gonna, I'll tell you what, it's gonna piss me off if they play really well. They're with rest their way out, don't make it in. That's gonna happen, dude.

[00:14:34] I know that looks like the most likely scenario and what we're going to say is the difference. Well, the biggest difference where they turned the corner was fire and lindy. A move you could have done so many games ago. So many games ago. Should have done.

[00:14:52] Yeah, so I mean we're going to have so many opportunities to critique, let's say, management choices, but boy that list is getting longer, the more I look at it. I was thinking about this today and like this team,

[00:15:09] the dudes on the ice, yeah a lot of them have been underperforming this year. Absolutely. But look at what the team is cons are, right? All the injuries, right? And just not having any kind of cohesiveness the entire, basically the whole first half of the season.

[00:15:24] Never know where you're going to play, never know what line you were on and just next thing you know we have guys that should not be playing on the top six playing in the top six. And it was a mess.

[00:15:37] Then the bullshit happens with McCloud, that had to have an effect on this team. And then like you know everyone knows there's a goal-tending problem. Your management then does nothing to help this team. When did I start getting healthy?

[00:15:51] When you start seeing okay maybe things are clicking but you know there's a bit of a coaching problem. You know there's a goal-tending problem and they did nothing. And so if you had a team that didn't have much potential,

[00:16:03] if you had all these problems up and down the lineup, exactly why you just like what am I far in Lindi for? Who's going to save this team? You know I don't have any, there's no gas in this tank, it's ridiculous.

[00:16:14] But I don't see it that way dude. I know there was a lot of injuries. I know. I know we had those problems. But we should have performed better than that. We did even with those injuries.

[00:16:27] You know we were not the most injured team ever and I think that's a similar injury. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Yes we totally underperform but all I'm saying is that I feel like when the team started getting healthy again

[00:16:40] and can start kind of maybe getting back on track, I'm just saying that Tom Fitzgerald had a chance to make the team better. I really help him out and he didn't do it. And you know if this team goes and makes a run

[00:16:51] and somehow gets themselves into the playoffs, it's kind of going to be inspired what management did this obviously. It's going to be the remaining players saying when the jack come back, how many games are going out was that? Jack used came back what like maybe ten games though.

[00:17:07] It's probably. Probably which is yeah I felt like we're getting a little longer. Imagine if they pulled the trigger during that period where they could not win without him. You know and you go back and you got another 15, 20 games with that reset.

[00:17:24] I don't think we're in as bad a position. I mean what was the danger? I didn't see any great coachy moves there. I think if you're Fitzgerald and wonder in like is my coach doing the best he can with the situation

[00:17:43] and my second guess at him, he's got to be having those thoughts in his head. If he talks with Fitzgerald the way he talks to the media basically blaming the injuries and offering nothing else to go with it, I think the decision could have been made back then.

[00:17:59] Back when you know he uses out in the team can't pull together. I got him yeah I didn't fuses out in this big problem but I got a room full of very talented guys who are coming out with flat efforts night after night that's got to be something

[00:18:12] I need to shake up and then let's see my coach you know do it everything he can then that's the obvious move to make. It was shocking to me that he because it did actually got to the point with me

[00:18:24] who I mean we both had been screaming for this kind of begun basically since December but like it even got to the point when it did happen I was kind of like why bother now

[00:18:34] you know like you know why bother now we took a meeting one why don't you yeah I mean you did nothing up until now but if they do it and you know just like even the

[00:18:45] Florida game like putting together he sure brought and he was together like that lending never did that you know green needed as far as what is the rebust offense of players out there and see what they can do and I thought that was a good idea

[00:19:01] get tries something anything. It's interesting because in all the years of watch hockey I think for every other team so a team being defined by who their coach was at the time

[00:19:12] at some point during some games multiple in a season it would be a normal thing to see your three best-forward on one line when you're pushing for a goal. It's not especially the ironic thing is he tinkers his lines so much

[00:19:27] you would think that would be an easier thing for a guy like him but to not even try it again right. So reiterate none of us have ever said that everything we say per lines is the answer

[00:19:37] or simply saying something's currently broke you try this for a little while or just a lot's ago. He pulled the goal he like with way too much time left over two minutes sometimes and

[00:19:49] you know that's a super risky move but you don't want to try the risky move of putting your three best-forward together which one is more risk versus reward you tell me I mean the lot more risk

[00:20:03] pulling your goal with two minutes left than there is trying the three most offensively mind that guy especially when he shares one of them because he is very solid. Right. Speaking of offensive mind even like during the starting line up it was

[00:20:17] neme can use together yeah or something we only did when we were kind of pushing for a goal most of the time so it's nice to see that come out that way. It seems like Travis Green is taking

[00:20:27] a concerted effort to take a little bit off of their plates I mean you can definitely say it with Nemech and even with the Hughes okay you guys are going to play the bottom three you know get

[00:20:38] those minutes and that you know and that's how it should be we have veterans the adventure veteran defenseman on this team and shame on them that they're not able to carry load while these

[00:20:48] guys get seasons and they think about the move of the bench. What do you think about the move of bench and him for the previous game we need a chance to talk about that I was a little surprised

[00:20:58] but it means it's good bad but we're your impressions on that. Well I don't do impressions it's not too easy. One of them. A little bit god-free and his impression benched.

[00:21:11] Is that all you know just the big? No I've seen benched. Oh that's how bad the impression is. What was the question about my impression of the bench? Yeah like I'm really surprised by that.

[00:21:26] Yeah I was surprised by the fact that he was bench because I didn't think that anybody in arm coaching staff for management has to also do anything so I was like yeah that's a little

[00:21:38] shocking but I got it you know at the kid played a ton of hockey I think that it was just kind of take a seat sit back relax I think it was a little bit was getting to him and given the night off

[00:21:49] I didn't think it was that big of a deal if he was out more than the last game I would maybe think a little bit more of it but one game I don't think is a problem I think yeah it's I think

[00:21:59] it's a good idea to do that with your rookies. You saw it with you know what's his name of Carlson and Anaheim you know they're only playing him like every third or fourth game like

[00:22:10] it's he's a rookie they're easing him in we put that's the right way to do it we just wait to make money rookie defenseman yeah you know you don't want to ruin a guy so I'm fine with one

[00:22:20] night off why would you think of it? Well I thought if he's out again this is like the weirdest trade the idea ever like this would never like so I'm gonna package him no way but either

[00:22:35] that or like Travis Green really does not like this kit on this team and he's you know moving away from him in a way that I didn't understand you know you know like sometimes you

[00:22:45] get surprised when you hear about somebody's you know feelings on a certain player like really you know the stuff that if it's true I'll set about a whole difference you know like really

[00:22:54] admit I don't see a whole stuff I didn't think you had a bad year I didn't I think was an exceptional year but I thought he was not really part of the problem with this team no not not in a major way

[00:23:06] so just to circle back you guys do know that we did actually answer that question last show right we did talk about it and you might have done your last paint film not really sure but we talked

[00:23:15] about Nebuchadneut playing oh I don't remember that I listen to it just like a couple hours ago I heard myself talking about somebody goes get a back there so I'm not gonna answer it again but

[00:23:25] no I was also thinking too like going into tights game like as a possible they're gonna bench him and I think one of you guys were talking about who was but lineup that's what

[00:23:33] no I mean I I mean I I didn't even think about a trade when it came in being back to Geese Florida again I didn't even think of it you know after the game did it occur to me

[00:23:41] little okay yeah it wasn't even concerned I thought it and also I mean I just there's no way at this point uh the how well he's played for you this year there's no way we're getting rid of this kit

[00:23:53] you know yes this ceiling is so high you know but so all right we did our lindy bashing right we're not moving let's move on let's move on can this is this something that's gonna

[00:24:06] progress here or we're just gonna go back in our old habits unsaturated against the hurricanes and look like the reason that's going to be so hard to answer is because of the next three opponents I mean

[00:24:18] this is ridiculous Carolina who just seems to own us the Rangers which are a far superior team even with or without that it could be a coin flip going against them depending on the year and then Dallas

[00:24:30] I mean if they do come out of this looking pretty then they're ready for a run ready to give I think the boys in that room were like I don't care what the devils are saying they're doing they could say

[00:24:41] they're selling we're here to win this thing we want to get there I think that's the group that's on the ice right now that would be the solid you want right hope that's what Travis Green saying

[00:24:50] exactly you know that better be the message but fits this is what we're doing yeah we've got to do it without to fully we'll do it out to fully they want to be a good

[00:24:57] very young team if they need that kind of motivation to get up and do something I think last year they had that that chip on their shoulder and they worked to their advantage this year that they didn't have

[00:25:09] a real theme that I could see other than disarray so maybe this gives them that focus man man they have they have the talent I mean they really do they if they if they

[00:25:21] can put it together they can make this a lot if they have the talent and they also now have not just that chip on their shoulder but now they're the team that's not supposed to make it

[00:25:32] so it's not like they're out of it and they're playing spoiler but the pressure's not on them for anyone of these games well I mean it is because they still have a lot of run way to kind of get

[00:25:40] there but it's different now like now they're like all the time we took our top player out we're going to do this okay we're gonna come after we'd get everything we've got and if they were to

[00:25:49] ever put together a streak not necessarily six straight wins but you know for loss win that kind of thing and it starts with these next three teams or actually started tonight and even the way

[00:26:02] they're putting as flarr that would be fantastic because now you're really talking a great spring board for in the year but we got to we haven't seen anything that shows yet that that's going

[00:26:10] to happen other than the last of this game we got to go up to like four out of five instead we do say three out of four but actually in since one show that math is kind of changed in my

[00:26:19] mind where it's gonna be closer to four out of five to really think that we can do it the way everybody else is playing it's gonna have to be a run that serious run that teams that are really I really obviously showed the Philadelphia connection the other teams

[00:26:38] that are directly around us capitals, penguins and the islanders inferior all we had to do was outplay them by say two wins but that's without accounting for the games in hand that they

[00:26:53] have doesn't mean they're gonna win them but that's essentially what needs to happen so if these teams decide that they're gonna win ten of their next nineteen you know we got to win twelve

[00:27:03] or whatever it is or I mean it's just not going to be easy no like you said you know maybe not six and a row no it has to be something like that they have to put together a six seven eight

[00:27:15] game in a row uh streak you know and maybe drops you know one and there you know maybe but that's how good it has to be I could totally see the psyche of this team just check in towards pure optimism

[00:27:29] if anything that good goes for them for like this next week I think they can go on a territory they get a little bit of confidence and start playing with that joy of playing hockey again and being

[00:27:40] as good as they are they can do some damage but can you know our defense hold up we didn't get any help there can are voltending hold up we didn't get any help there I don't know it's it's so

[00:27:53] fascinating to me and I really hope these games mean something because above uh above fully being above us and the islanders being just above us now too with their games in hand we do play both of them

[00:28:03] so literally no matter what math you want to do take those two points at least and say that's our destiny like we definitely control that and then put that into the picture and then it

[00:28:15] doesn't look as daunting but they need a streak yeah especially like you said you track off the next three in a row and now you're playing with some major confidence if you end you know what

[00:28:27] people are starting to take notice again and that you could do some damage and by the way what you guys think it does this game in general I thought he looked much sharper again today he did

[00:28:37] I mean team gave him support he needed no last time he got sheld um his numbers were horrible it was like nine saves on 13 shots or something crazy like that yeah nine bowls on 13

[00:28:52] nine saves yeah right you got you're letting four yeah and then um was was relieved and then a game where we lost you know five what what I'm saying is his all those numbers were

[00:29:06] horrible in that game nobody was gonna win you that game with the defense that was playing and you're right you mentioned earlier pop they played much better defensively they looked

[00:29:16] make their making good choices and he did his job when I looked at Schmidt in Florida game because we did talk about some things in that game I guess pregame because we did that show pregame didn't

[00:29:26] make sure it Schmitz performance met he had so many opportunities to steal a game as much as I was saying Florida's letting us steal this game we got to take it it also came back

[00:29:40] to team didn't stop scoring they kept coming back they just needed you to not let in more than two and it would have to look yeah I mean there were not a lot of them were bad goals but once

[00:29:52] it's a while if you're gonna be the man you have to like steal two she saves that you had no right to make and that's how he's stealing game we haven't had that consistently from anybody

[00:30:02] and this year we haven't got it really at all from our goal tenders maybe I'm thinking of one or two games would be earlier on in the year maybe maybe one was Schmidt I can't even think of it right now

[00:30:16] and tonight I can't say that does like robbed the blues and that's why he didn't steal a lot of cool really nice saves he did you early you know I'm saying like some of those saves that

[00:30:27] Schmidt would have to make would have been even higher quality as right and we were first to win at game so it's not like the goal-tending was horrible last time but you know I think the support was

[00:30:39] better so it was kind of a mix you know where I still want to ride doors as much as possible yeah but you know they're gonna have to give them that support we are the place where goalies start out

[00:30:49] with decent numbers and then go south that tells you that it's the defensive system we're doing too now but then we hold St. Louis to like 20 shots or close to it or something shots aren't everything no but I'm saying like for us like that's huge you know absolutely

[00:31:05] because they got out shot in the second for the first half of it but they responded and then came back or shut him down and that's how you have to play and if you want to even think about the play

[00:31:15] off that's the type of game you have to play defense who's responsibility dogs has got to play well when he's in there hopefully vanage you know comes out of witness protection and we maybe see him again before he indices this first two Florida goals man we were so

[00:31:27] Mike the offensively we're horrible too especially second one alone in the slot what's going on guys I mean you leave malone in the slot between the dots and he has time to make a play

[00:31:39] that kind of thing didn't happen tonight not so a big reason that they were successful and dogs was successful with only letting one go in and you know I kind of had a feeling that they were

[00:31:49] gonna probably lose that Florida game just because of the simple fact of you know they're still real in from the lindy thing this is the first game with a green back there they don't really

[00:32:01] know what changes are going to be made I thought it was going to be a bit of a hiccup but having one practice with Travis Green and coming out and playing the way they did tonight holy shit man

[00:32:11] it looked like a different team tonight I really hope that they can keep this up yeah and I hope it's a coaching relationship that can grow when I saw you know okay we're waiting so long to let go

[00:32:21] lindy and we have nobody in the wings it kind of annoyed me because from a management point of view why how do we get here but let's be real with what we got now we have Travis Green who doesn't

[00:32:31] want to see him emerges this successful coach so he has this first game he's thrown in what did he say how did he get the guys to respond that what was the practice he read how many technical things

[00:32:41] that he changed or how many like positives that he take out of that game you know guys yeah you know what we could have won and good news we could have won that game like we are we do in these things

[00:32:52] right let's keep doing these things and we win this and maybe they're just picking up on that responding we got a sample size of two so we're going to have to find out but it's pretty exciting

[00:33:04] that if they are able to make a run and squeeze their way into the playoffs it'll be a hell of a run and it'll be a hell of a story for Travis Green and for so many guys on that team that it's

[00:33:15] going to be the most exciting playoffs it'll be more exciting than last year as far as like holy shit we're in the playoffs and we should have to say that after we've just been there right

[00:33:24] we said last year like what in other order for not to be disappointment you got to make the playoffs and that's true but look at this if we if we do make it into playoffs after being so far

[00:33:34] out of it it's going to be kind of magical so I I'm really hoping that happens because it's going to be a hell of a story if it does you know I'm going to believe in that as well as like

[00:33:43] can yeah I'm with you like to me it's cliche but to me these are playoff games like the playoffs have started now that's how important this is that's how I'm watching each game

[00:33:53] standing up watching it half the time like no one's around I'm just standing up like an idiot but yeah because this is everything it's every point in my over analytical brain is sitting

[00:34:01] there doing all that math constantly watching the other teams I just got to shut that shit down but this is crunch time hey quick question for you guys though so Dan or both you so

[00:34:12] there's no data to really back to sub it's more quantitative but qualitative but what would you say like a for an elite gold tender and we saw we've had the elite of the elite but just in general

[00:34:23] and I know every year's different every team's different I'm many games do you think like an elite gold tender would steal you like on a good team on an average year like what's the what's a

[00:34:33] legitimate number like is it three is it five he knows what numbers are no I know he knows the numbers though he doesn't know three and five word in my head it those are pretty good numbers

[00:34:46] no like I think if add of every I would say close to 10 wins that your that your team makes one to two of those games you had no right to win you made too many defensive mistakes gave up too many

[00:35:05] good chances and that goal is stolen that's a that's a great vessnite type year that you want to have so he is 10 wins then maybe well that would be if the play in all the games you know so like let's say you're playing 60 games

[00:35:21] maybe they're still in the sixth game seven games something like that I would have went away this year they're absolutely right and then it that is the difference when you're fighting your way into the playoffs for sure it's always a matter of two points four points and goal-tending

[00:35:38] matters in the playoffs it's a seven games series and it comes down to that one game goal-tending matters and so that's why you know we even hope it for the best with the guys we got

[00:35:51] and we've had concerns it did not get addressed I you know I realize it's very hard to be the actual GM very easy to play the armchair GM I don't know exactly what deals would have been

[00:36:05] right for this team I don't know you know we talked about hell of a and all kinds of things but looking at it you know one minute yeah I know like it makes you wonder where we would be

[00:36:15] what would we have to give up and then we would have let's assume for sake of argument we face all those injuries you gave up a lot of the future and didn't make it in any way that would then

[00:36:26] retrospect a year later look like a bad move right but I don't think so if you can get a return quality gold tender he's having a great year he was projected out of a great year he

[00:36:36] is you know like it's a it was a good move if you couldn't do it I don't know why they couldn't do it you never get to know the details of it um marks true like you know I thought it was you know

[00:36:48] on again off again and I thought it was back on again but it's not and obviously and that kind is disturbing too because I mean we were texted back forth and I think a lot of us agree that

[00:37:01] you I feel like they didn't appreciate how close they were just tweak some things make it happen you have enough guys that they will come together um I don't know why we couldn't

[00:37:13] go for a goldie earlier I never had you know crazy faith in these guys and and by the time it doesn't pan out halfway through three years you're not really know I said that I really like

[00:37:24] aggressive general managers I really do if you feel like if you're you need something and this dude can make your team better you go out and get them you identify that dude as a player that's

[00:37:34] going to help you win a championship I'm fine with that but like I can't stand these and I'll even talk about general managers another one tonight that I think made a big mistake but I'll go

[00:37:45] back to that but with Tom Fitzgerald like just not didn't just didn't seem like either either he just didn't have the balls to make the move you know I don't know what he was giving up

[00:37:57] but he either didn't have the balls to make the move or he got too cute and tried to get a little bit too much from Calgary where I think that pissed Calgary off and Calgary basically

[00:38:07] put the gobache on trading him at all and especially to us. I got to imagine though Marks I'm sitting there really not understanding what's going on because they're excited about the possibility of a playoff push that they're playing well then they still trade like three

[00:38:22] great players off their team if I were him I'd be like what kind of messages this are you going for you not I know Hannough and was expiring so maybe that's irrelevant but still if you're

[00:38:32] actually making a push we've seen teams retain talent before and say I'm going to take the risk because I want this guy in case I get through the playoffs it seems weird to me and I was just kind of

[00:38:42] hoping in a daydream and then Marks will run into the office that's it I want to go the devil to suppose it but yeah but you know that's not going to happen you know just yeah they they

[00:38:53] seem to doesn't seem like they really like it does seem like confidence Gerald did not stop start paying attention to this hockey team till about two weeks ago that's an interesting thing

[00:39:05] so three thoughts tomorrow I'm going to keep the optimism that we are both seller and a buyer we already know to fully gone no matter what I just I'm just hoping that there's still something

[00:39:16] else in the mix we did talk about could you at least pivot maybe find some kind of a stud defense been with term give up player and prospects to get it to at least solidify the rest of this

[00:39:28] year and have some foundation for next year if not a goal tender they're not that easy to find either everybody wants a stud defenseman you know but um that just feel like there's got to be more

[00:39:39] and I think that we're going to get overpaid for to fully quite frankly and I think even if we didn't that's just not the issue for this team anymore it's not the excuse we've been barking

[00:39:48] about that for the last couple months we've got everything it takes to get whatever player we want possibly in a trade that brings us stuff back for this year I mean you can't throw in the towel now

[00:40:00] is it completely just selling move because you don't believe you want to keep in long term or is it partially that and maybe we can expect something in return or do you feel like it's too

[00:40:12] fully deal with this be a separate deal by itself if anything else happens it's irrelevant I think that the asking price for folks of his caliber has gone up significantly in the last

[00:40:23] week or two so since they can't agree on the long term of the contract it was one of those hey man let's ship you off the summer you got chance to win a cup we'll talk over the summer I think it's both

[00:40:33] I think there's still a good relationship now every sooner than the world's going to be after my thing for a while but he might face the same thing in the market you know a lot of people are not

[00:40:40] going to if it's true that he wants the five or six which seems normal for a player and the organization wants a three four if that's true he's going to face the same thing in the offseason

[00:40:52] but typically people tend to overspend in the offseason when they want the guy that's when you given that extra year because you like screw it I need to get them or two so we might not ever see him

[00:41:02] again and as much as I thought he fit in perfectly again I don't know where we were going to put everybody all the time I don't even know where we put them for the next four years we kind of got

[00:41:10] them under that idea that it's going to be difficult in a long term situation to find a way to get them I think a lot of us were surprised when we got him you know we were it was something

[00:41:22] we didn't necessarily need we all thought it was great beyond top how cool it's just going to be bringing it to the injuries it was so great to have them but it did also block other people from

[00:41:34] developing what we found out and we he's you know look he's not going to be a devil ever again we we're you're dancing time with Tyler to fully play I only believe that because I believe

[00:41:44] there's other GM's that will overpay more irresponsibly than if it's what that's that's it that's knows next year like if it was like a shrunken type year like here's your nine million dollars a year

[00:41:54] like we got to go over the top of everybody we're not even going to get that even if we do like a march from over the summer still have to be a little cautious you don't want to give away

[00:42:04] the farm because you are going to get them for two years but he that's a bridge the problem is we don't have anything waiting together in that bridge right now we thought we did maybe we do

[00:42:14] maybe put those back let them go you know let them develop again but we don't have like a true true stud that I'm aware of that's going to be the next big thing in two years and this year

[00:42:26] is going to be a dozen show I really believe that from you know he's going to be the guy we're gonna ride we're not getting anybody else in here it's not going to be smid I don't think anybody

[00:42:35] in this organization has any faith in smid and as soon as vana check it's healthy enough shimits going back down to you to good so you know like gold tending coaching situation do you

[00:42:45] guys know if we've had continuous gold tending coaching between this year and last year yeah was it the same Dave or Bell's people so like how are you feeling about the way the gold tending

[00:42:57] has been used which is sometimes more the head coach than then the gold tending coach without goal I didn't feel about the way the gold tenders have been handling dealing with this team

[00:43:06] do you think they're a gold tending coach always difficult to say how much the gold tending coach contributes what do you feel what's your feelings on this I mean I don't know what you could have

[00:43:16] done any different I don't know what you know what I mean like I mean you had to play dolls as much as you were playing them we made me the point see was our best chance and we had nobody else to play

[00:43:28] I mean it sucks that vana check out hurt and it sucks that smid sucks you know I mean but as far as I don't know what else you do maybe I would have tried to pull to some point

[00:43:40] I remember that's kind of what I was thinking about too like but when you said that I had to laugh and like oh man you're just bringing back two years ago now where we're just gonna see how many

[00:43:49] guys I know that I know that was the only negative but I understand what you'd say that too like all right dude dolls got shelved smid not the answer you had a chance to steal a game did not

[00:44:03] we gotta go back to dolls it's just it's frustrating it's frustrating I think that we have the best goal ever to play the game sitting in the executive suite to be given more advice about what

[00:44:14] the hell to do to be honest with you I mean I know that's that's not his job but dear god right just seems like we could give him his brain a little bit more I never really

[00:44:23] read an interview or her interview with Marty thoughts on gold tending coaching because that's something that makes me it makes you wonder like hey would you want to be a golly coach and there

[00:44:33] might be some reasons why he doesn't well I will say this I don't know any golly that had a closer relationship with their golly coach that Marty brought door to his home you're on that was you

[00:44:44] day it was so close so yeah he must have been super influential in Marty's career and his development so I'm sure he's very pro bully coach and he must approve of Dave Robalsky right yeah

[00:44:58] even though if I'm saying his name right so I don't know enough about gold tending to know if a guy is being used correctly like what do you think I it it I understand what you guys are saying like

[00:45:09] what else could they do I'm just wondering if you have multiple guys going back really two years when both some of the others who played and this is the team where we get the guy comes in his

[00:45:24] numbers are good they're better than the last guy they stay good for five six seven games is a few percentages nice look when Dawes came in oh my god I think there was articles written

[00:45:34] finally we got League of Orange gold tending it's great you know four five games in Dawes given you he's given it to you he's doing everything right what what's the drop off how does a safer

[00:45:44] percentage fall down so much now some of it is the team defense that's up and down but I also think like the gold tenders have to respond to that they have to they're going to be victimized by

[00:45:57] a bad defense of effort but when they come back that next game and they don't make that one save that they should have and now you start going this is confidence shaken I think it's

[00:46:08] fair to say that the last couple outings for Dawes it looked like he was a different goalie than the one who came in it wasn't just a defense and I know from playing even on the lower levels

[00:46:19] in that is that you can get like victimized by like just habit in other words like you you take some of that shit in with you and really great ones don't they always say that like it's an easy

[00:46:31] thing to do it's not and that's where I wonder gold tending coaching this psychology that helps them to shake off when your teams plan like shit you know it is tough call I think a game like tonight

[00:46:43] for Dawes can go a long way and shake it off his confidence and getting them feel better about himself yeah I mean he played well today the whole team went win can do a lot and a win coming off

[00:46:55] with the loss against the best team that was still close yeah those two things together that's momentum yeah so it's all it's gonna you know we got so many things going against us on Saturday

[00:47:05] number one it's the hurricane number two it's an afternoon game no most of them you're almost right that shit off as a as a loss I think we're a team is far oh yeah exactly they got a win

[00:47:17] they got a win on Saturday and then if they do it can really go a long way in sparking this team because man they're such a good team and if they get rolling they're going to be a tough

[00:47:26] team to beat nobody's going to want to play them the next 19 games but they got to go out and do it now yeah it's magic time I think it's gonna be exciting magic time that's really doing

[00:47:36] really it's gonna be exciting I think that the guys that are left here really want to galvanize together and just get this thing going before before we wrap it up I do want to just throw my two cents

[00:47:47] and I said another GM that I was going to bash on yeah yeah so it was reported that the Rangers were really close to picking up Jake Getzel and I believe that if the Rangers got

[00:48:00] Jake Getzel they would probably be my favorite to win these I just think that he's such a good playoff pick player and that team is so freaking good and apparently they wanted either

[00:48:12] Pittsburgh wanted either their first round picked from last year with the hell is this name I don't remember his name or a pick or something and Capo Cocko and they would not trade Cocko

[00:48:26] for what yeah that's what I thought I'm like man you didn't give that up and you let him go to Carolina the team that you're going to have to go through if you want to win a family top and you just

[00:48:36] gave him Jake Getzel and I know he's the first to overall but he's one of the more disappointing for Cocko yeah you're disappointed you're falling low with the placement over the player right it's just

[00:48:45] like yeah maybe probably not I mean maybe it's like ultimately works out for him but he's not looking like right now but that was yeah probably should have been too Sponel Cocko too is who was drafted right above him and where he plays you know that he's always

[00:49:04] compared to jack-use and where jack-use oh speaking of they did throw up a graph and I had to look at what that equates to but you know jacks had a rough year he's been injured again

[00:49:13] he hasn't played that many games and he was on a tear leading off with a squinch but they said he said no one else that break away against the fluttered a game we got a point that's true

[00:49:22] he hit the post twice right across bar twice yeah yes he did he hit across bar uh last game yeah so he's got 1.28 points per game which is 11th best in the league and if he were healthy

[00:49:36] which of course he wasn't the full season that equates to 105 which shows progress over you know the 99 he got last year not that we ever have to justify how good jack-use is I just want to

[00:49:47] think of drawing everybody the pain that he still on. I make 100 points right that was like one of our predictions that should have stayed healthy right I don't remember which was said it I

[00:49:56] think we might have also that he could break 100 points you know this year. The first year that he stays healthy again whenever that is he's gonna crush 100 points if he's used right yeah

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