The Dead Weight Edition

[00:00:05] Hey everyone, Mr. Devil here, Kenny Danico, three-time Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils and you're listening to the Uncle Puckers NJD Podcast. Let's go Devils! What is up boys? How's everybody doing? Doing pretty well. How about you? I had an adventure today. It was not fun. You guys want to hear about it? Of course.

[00:00:35] So, you know, I work long days. I work 12-hour shifts and four days a week. And so today, it's around a little after three o'clock. I told you guys about yesterday, right, with my freaking dryer, right? Most dryers only last one cycle now, so you actually got lucky. You know, unfortunately, I wish I knew that because I wouldn't have washed the second load and had it sitting in my washer to this day soaking wet. No, it's $800 a dry now.

[00:01:04] That's just the point rate for drying clothes. So this brand new washer dryer that you bought, this is an event. No, this isn't my adventure. This is yesterday's event. So yesterday, like I get my, you know, the Monday, I take the old machines out. I unplug everything. I disconnect everything. I take the railing off my basement stairs. I take the door off my basement. I want this to be as quick and painless as, you know, it's like, you know, for these guys.

[00:01:34] I want them in and out of my house. So, and it worked beautifully in and out. They took the old ones out. They brought the new ones in. Hey, can you hook it up? I got this. No problem. I put everything together. I install everything. I put the railing back. I put the door back. I run the wash. I'm happy. I'm just washing it, you know, watching the fucking thing. I'm like, oh, this is nice. I take it. I put it in the dryer. My last dryer was like two hours to dry load. This is done in 40 minutes. I'm super happy. I pull everything out.

[00:02:03] I put the next load in. I hit start and nothing's happening. So I'm like, am I missing something? Cause you know, it's brand new. Maybe there's something on me. So I can take the owner's manual and I'm looking. No, no, it's not. It's not working. So I call Samsung and I get this guy and he's like, hello, my name is Jim. What can I do for you? I'm like, your name's not Jim. Just stop. You're right. It's James. We don't have to try and Americanize this shit.

[00:02:32] I know I'm calling a call center in New Delhi. You don't have to do this. So, all right, Jim, I tell him my issue. And so Jim tells me that, well, we have to check it, put it on timer. And if the timer starts going down, well, then it's broke. So I have it on like video call. So he sees everything that I see and you know, the latch is fine. The doors are fine because you know, all right, we checked everything. And he's like, but it's tumbling, right?

[00:03:02] I'm like, no, dude, it's not tumbling. It was tumbling and dry and I wouldn't be calling you. So the timer, of course, starts going down and he's like, oh, yeah, it's broke. I'm like, I know, dude. This is why I'm calling you. Sorry to interrupt. Now, well, you know, of course, there's nothing they can do because I bought it from Lowe's. So I get on the phone with Lowe's. They were super nice. Like they were just like, yeah, well, we'll just so Saturday they're going to swap them out. So now tomorrow I have to take everything apart again and do all that shit.

[00:03:31] But you have a laundromat with thirty two hundred quarters. That's eight hundred. I have a whole bunch. Now you don't use quarters anymore in the laundromat. I didn't know this because I had to go to the laundromat last week while my other machine was broken before I got the new one, which is also broken. But they give you a little debit card now and you just charge it. Oh, just. Yeah. So that's how that's how now the laundromat works. So I so then today, you know, I get into work around nine o'clock. I have some guys there to do some hood cleaning and stuff.

[00:03:58] So I don't get the place open till around 12. Put my orders in a nice little chill day. Right. I'm not it's not super busy on Wednesdays. I'm going to kind of chill. I make a sandwich. I go in the back. I put on the last episode of Skeleton Crew. I'm going to eat my sandwich. I'm going to watch Skeleton Crew. And so far, this is a good day's work. If that's work, that's incredible. Well, this is my beauty. This is the beauty of my job.

[00:04:28] And my my my owners, my bosses, like they recognize this and they're super cool with it. Like they're like, look, we know that from November to April, like you're not doing shit. But from April through October, it is die. Yeah. It's balls to the wall. I don't know how many more summers I can actually do this job. So I'm watching the last episode of Skeleton Crew and I have my chicken sandwich and I take a bite.

[00:04:54] My second bite, I hear crunch and I'm like, oh shit. And I open up my mouth. I spit out my food on the plate. I go in the mirror and I look and my crown in the back is gone. Cracked, gone. Now, as soon as air hits it, it's like excruciating fucking pain. So now I'm like actually shaking because you want to see air hurt so bad. Right.

[00:05:20] So from the time I cracked my tooth, got in touch with my dentist, got in the chair, got drilled, grinded down, numbed up, new temporary crown on back at work. Ninety minutes. That's not bad. That's interesting. Ninety freaking minutes in and out. And so the rest of the night, of course, you know, I'm all numb. I can't eat. I hate that. I hate Novocaine. But I went to a new dentist. This guy was fantastic.

[00:05:50] Did you have to drive back off the island to this dentist too? Yeah. It was right by my house. Wow. That's impressive. Yeah. So I had to come off the island, sit down. They were even like staying late because it was an emergency. They were super awesome. You like that emergency money. Yeah. Well, you know, that was another $200. I wasn't expecting the layout today. But, you know, so a couple more visits. I'll get the new crown and I'll be set. But that was fun today. Just, you know, that automatic, just when you crunch and you know right away that wasn't chicken.

[00:06:20] That's my something in my mouth that fell out that shouldn't. One more 30 second read and you're good. We'll get 200 bucks made like that. I was going to say. I was like, I don't think you'd be telling that story if your restaurant's serving stuff with like crunchy shit in it. And the chicken. God, no. That's brutal. You're having a good run of it, huh? Yeah. It's just like nothing is ever easy. Like that's just what it comes. Like I watch all these people. Everything that people do around me is like flawless and easy.

[00:06:48] And then it's like I always like we talked about it, right? Always buy scratch and dent bullshit appliances. The one time I'm like, you know what? I'm not fucking doing that again. We're going to get some nice shiny new stuff. One run. One run. One's bad. I mean, you're in the food industry, right? So I think you guys might find this to be quite funny because I do. I laugh every time I heard it on the news today like three separate times.

[00:07:14] And apparently there was a 100,000 eggs stolen with a street value of $40,000. It's close to where I live. This is what's happening in the world right now. The egg prices are so high that people now are running underground egg running rings. It's like prohibition for poultry. Yeah. 40 grand. Do you know how many dryers you could buy with that? A lot. And I bet half of them will work.

[00:07:43] You're rolling the dice on which one will work. Didn't we all like, you know, elect a certain somebody because bacon costs a little too much? Now we're stealing eggs because the price is through the roof. Okay. 40 grand in eggs. There's no one to investigate it. So you can steal whatever you want. Oh my gosh. And the eggs are probably fucking tainted anyway. It's not like we have a USAA checking them out anymore. Exactly. They're fine.

[00:08:08] I spent my day about four months ago. My brother and I, we bought a 1948 Willys Jeep. Nice. And we bought it from Facebook Marketplace after a couple of days. And we thought it was a good idea. Yeah. Now, you know, it's going to be awesome. It's going to be great. It'll be a project car. We're going to bring it down to our beach house and just it'll be our car down there.

[00:08:35] We'll roll around, pick up some 60 year old mills. It doesn't go very well at all. So I spent my day dragging it across the yard in my truck to try and get it into our barn because it's been sitting in the yard for about five months. It's like pure Maryland white trash, redneck, like just sitting in the yard. Got it across the yard into the barn.

[00:09:03] But because of the way our barn is oriented, like I couldn't pull it into the barn and get the truck out. So I had to really rig up like two straps and like this thing called a come along. Have you ever seen what a come along is? You know what a come along is? I ran. I ran. Relax. I didn't. I was a soft boy from New York City. Sounds better than what it probably actually is, right? I don't know if I did. It's those straps that you pull. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like a metal thing. So we have, because it's an old dairy barn.

[00:09:31] So we have two big poles that I put two straps on and basically just used to come along to drag it in. Two poles and strap on it to come along? So I finally got this thing into our barn. Man, you're doing a Polish as a movie. You tell me, right? Yes, dear. Yeah. The operation get the Jeep in the barn was successful today. I'm glad that that was successful. So my semi-sabbatical, semi-retirement has been going great.

[00:09:57] Which is going to stay semi only for a, well, I guess it's going to become, your sabbatical is going to be hopefully ending soon. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully. We won't discuss it on this podcast just yet, but we will just say that Tim might be joining the dark side. We'll explain at another point. Yeah, hopefully. We'll see. Hopefully. Hopefully. For your sake. But on a good note, it wasn't pretty, boys.

[00:10:24] It was some points downright ugly. Yep. But the Devils got two points last night from the Putzburg Penguins. You know, I was not in a good mood last night. So I know we were nicking the group texts and I was kind of shitting all over these guys for everything. But I do feel a little bit better now.

[00:10:46] And I do have a kind of a different outlook of how I'm going to at least think about this team for the next two and a half weeks. But I'm curious what you guys thought about the Pittsburgh game. Tim, you can start us off here. Yeah. I mean, you know, they got two points, man. It was ugly. It was a slog of a game. You know, it's kind of what I wrote up. You know, we're injuries up and down the lineup. They're older.

[00:11:16] They're not as slow, I think, of Pittsburgh as kind of the sort of general narrative is. They brought in some younger guys that are a little bit quicker. But they're not a good team and we should have blown the doors off them. But, you know, losing a two goal lead, you know, it's kind of defensively they looked better. They were kind of limiting stuff. They're kind of insulating Dawes a little bit better than than maybe they would if it was Allen. But coughing up the lead was kind of rough.

[00:11:45] There are a few rough moments. The offense, man, it's just like it's just so anemic and frustrating, especially with the level of talent that we should have. I appreciate that they're playing well defensively, but there's just something missing on the offensive end of this team. And it's just frustrating to watch. But, again, they got the win in the shootout. That was a fun shootout. And the shootouts are stupid, but it was a fun shootout to watch because we got the win on it. So, I don't know. We move on to the next one.

[00:12:15] But if they show up against Vegas like that, they're going to get fucking bullied out of the building. But Vegas has lost two in a row, too, to the Rangers and the Islanders. In the Ranger game, they ended up losing a third-period lead. So, they're not happy right now. So, you're going to probably get the best of the Golden Knights tomorrow night. So, yeah, they better be ready. Bobby, what are you going to do? Yeah, in a couple of those games, like, sorry, you know, like the Islanders, they, you know, that was all Sorokin. Right.

[00:12:45] You know, so, like, it's not like they're necessarily playing bad. They just lost both of those games. And what was your thoughts on the Pittsburgh game, Robert? Just seriously, just very happy they got the two points because it just really meant a lot. The way they've been playing, yeah, it wasn't that great of a game. It wasn't, you know, the most crisp game. Right now, just looking back at, you know, where we are and what we're trying to get out of, like, I'll take that kind of win. We haven't really had that kind of win, and it was pretty big for the guys off the bench,

[00:13:14] especially with a, you know, shootout going that ridiculously long. I mean, all the credit to Dawes. I mean, he won that game for us as far as I'm concerned. He was just magnificent in the shootout. Tim, you said it, right? The psycho said he actually likes breakaways or something like that. Yeah. I remember before he debuted last year, he was like, I actually really like breakaways. Because we were talking, I think they were asking about, like, why, you know, all the defensive breakdowns that we have. And he was like, I actually like breakaways.

[00:13:40] And then it was his way of saying, you know, I'm not going to shit on the guys, but, you know, for fuck's sake, stop giving them up every two seconds, you know? Right. I mean, I had a real problem with the way that Pittsburgh played, especially in the overtime. I think that you're taking what's supposed to be some of the most exciting hockey in the world at three-on-three, and you just made it a snooze fest, man. And I don't like that. I mean, you're going for the bonus point. I think you should go for it like that. You know, the devil's mentality. But they're doing what they can do to maybe try to secure the point another way.

[00:14:10] But here's what I liked about it the most. I liked that we got a dirty goal from Jack. You know, that's fun to see something. And then we got a freaking super skilled, awesome goal from Jack, taking the face off, coming over, getting that pass from Brad. And the one-timer was absolutely epic. So I liked that he showcased kind of both sides of that. But mostly I liked that, you know, he got a dirty goal. A guy like Jack, not going to get a lot of those scrum goals. And they all went right to the net on that goal. They did the right thing. And that second goal, like you said, that was just absolutely gorgeous.

[00:14:40] I agree. I thought Dawes had a great game. I thought, of course, Jack had a great game. I thought Andre Palat had a really good game. You know, I didn't look at his numbers, but just through the eye test, I thought that he was skating hard. He was hitting. He was, you know, creating turnovers. He was involved in both the goals. Well, at least the first one, Jack's first one. So I was kind of happy with a few guys. But then there's other guys. And, you know, Tim, we texted about it last night.

[00:15:09] You wrote about it today. Curtis Lazar, like enough already. You know, can we get this guy off of witness protection and maybe get him to join the team? Like what we need Curtis Lazar for, he has not done at all this year. So he's been a disappointment. I'm curious how you guys feel about him. The other guy that I love but just seems to be lost without Nico Heischer is Stefan Nason. Like he just, you know, Heischer not being there is so big.

[00:15:38] And, you know, but a few of those guys, I'm just like – and Mercer. Mercer on the goal, one of the Pittsburgh's goals. I think it was their second one. I mean, dude, you have to be stronger on the boards. You cannot just let guys – you can't just bounce off of guys. Like he's got to learn to play a little bit more physical. I mean, you look at Jesper Bratt who took the last two years

[00:16:05] and spent that getting thicker, getting bigger, getting stronger, getting able not only to absorb the hits that a guy like him is going to take but to be able to dish him out from time to time. And very rarely does he just get strong-armed off the puck. And he's not a big guy, but he's strong. And Dawson Mercer – and Jack is just so skilled. He just knows when – you know, how not to get hit better than I think anybody in the league. He's fantastic at it.

[00:16:33] But Dawson Mercer, man, like something's got to give with this kid because he's not cutting it right now. I really thought this was the year that he would take that leap in kind of physical maturity. You know, a lot of times I'm not just talking about maybe your own progression in the gym, you know, that getting older size. You know what I mean? I really thought that part of that would start to come. And the gym thing, of course. I mean, he was basically directly told that he needs to get, you know, a little bit stronger than that.

[00:17:02] So, yeah, it's a little disappointing because I thought this was another big leap year for him. I thought he did really good a couple years ago, right? And then he had kind of that regression a little bit last year, which kind of happens sometimes with the young kids. So I was quite frankly expecting more from him this year in all aspects and specifically, yeah, that physical part there. You can't just get, you know, blown up all the time and pushed around. It's all the time. It really is. Yeah. And Lazar – oh, sorry, Tim. No, no, sorry. Keep going to talk about Lazar.

[00:17:31] I'll just say, Lazar, you're right. I mean, I don't know what – you know, production-wise, it's not exactly where you put him for your expectations. But give or take, he's on a, like, point every 10-game pace. I mean, that's brutal for any forward in the National Hockey League. You know what I mean? You got to chip in a little bit more than that. One goal, three assists for four points in 30 games. So just a shade over one point per 10 games. That's dog shit. Need a little bit more.

[00:17:59] And I don't want to hear too much about – because I know if anyone was listening to this and can comment, we might ultimately get some kind of comments like, oh, you don't understand hockey. This guy's got the intangibles and this and that. And locker – I get all that shit. Believe me, I get it, like, big time. But the reality is I don't want a bunch of guys that are, like, good guys and locker room guys and does all the little things. Like, at some point, some of these guys need production.

[00:18:25] I've also found this during the whole Palat conversation a couple of months ago when we were kind of, you know, dogging him quite a bit. And we kept hearing that, even from Sheldon. You know, Sheldon Keefe would say, you know, and the guys would say, like, they do the little things. All right. My whole thing is, though, like, you can do that and still produce offensively. Like, why is there no middle ground? It's like – and for half of the, you know, fans out there, what are the little things?

[00:18:52] What is it that they're doing that so – that just nobody else on this team can do? They protect the puck, they drive hard, they win board battles. Yeah. What am I? Yeah, I get that. Hockey players are supposed to do. Like, the stuff that we do kind of see Palat doing, like you were just mentioning. Like, the amount of times that Mercer just gets bodied off the puck. Like, it's just – he loses so many board battles. He's terrible at, like, getting zone clearances.

[00:19:21] Like, the amount of times that he just flubs the zone clearance, goes right to the point, and then the puck's right back in the zone. I will talk about his production quickly. So, I don't know if you guys remember. You probably do. But two years ago when he scored 27 goals, right? He scored 10 of those goals over an eight-game stretch. Remember that heater that he had? Yeah. And then he had a hat trick later in the season against Pittsburgh. Yeah. So, 13 of those goals came in nine games.

[00:19:49] So, the rest of it wasn't actually – he scored 14 goals over, what, 73 games. So, that's kind of – So, we can kind of agree that that nine-game stretch was abnormal, right? That seems like that's – yeah, that's kind of what I'm getting at. That is maybe the anomalous production. Maybe he'll go on another heater. Who knows? You know, that was in February and March when he did that. But I just don't think he is this 30-goal score that we thought he might be at one point.

[00:20:18] I'll concede that I might have even been a little overaggressive on that. But right now, given his pace, he's got 13 goals, 55 games. So, that puts him right on pace for 20. I think he's definitely above that too. I think 20 is too low for his skill set. Maybe he's not a consistent 30, but he should be mid-20s. I agree. And I think he'll top out probably around that 25 goals, 20 assists, 45 points, which is actually pretty good for $4 million a year. Exactly.

[00:20:47] I use, you know, that sort of $1 million per 10 points if you're kind of trying to use a point as a barometer. But, you know, he's not penalty killing anymore. I don't know if you guys saw that. Yeah, he was taken off as the first. I don't know if he was taken off. He was on the second. That's right. He was taken off. I don't know if he's taken off of it necessarily, or they're giving Jack and Bratt more run on the penalty kill, which I'm fine with.

[00:21:12] And his primary penalty killing partner was Nico Heischer, so I don't know if they're – That could have something to do with it. But it's something to look at because he only had – I actually had a minute 52 of penalty killing time, which is the second most forward. So I guess he wasn't actually taken off it. All right. Which is fine. I mean, he's played the penalty kill. He's good.

[00:21:40] You know, but like here's – let's do a quick side-by-side comparison. And I don't have numbers. Again, let's just talk the eye test, right? Dawson Mercer and his, I guess, station position on this team, right? And kind of juxtapose that with Ricard Raquel's position with the Pittsburgh Penguins, right? That's who Dawson Mercer should be, right? He should be playing like that. And I'm not saying they're the same size.

[00:22:08] I'm just saying, you know, chipping in for that 25 to 30 goals and – Isn't that what he has already? Raquel? I don't know how many he has. 24 starting last night. Yeah, he's got 24. Is he in the 20s already? 25. But like that's a guy that I would like to see like Dawson Mercer be. And it's just – he's not. And I think you're 100% right that this is, I think, who we got. I don't think there's – I don't think that that 30, 29 goal guy is there. He's not that guy.

[00:22:38] Yeah, but again, to Tim's point, he's an extremely serviceable NHL player at his salary for what his production is. Like it's not off balance. It's just maybe our expectations were a little higher than they should have. Raquel's got 46 points already, 24 goals. Yeah, yeah. And I really liked what I saw from Raquel. Like I – you know, he's the guy I wrote about him in that little trade targets blog that I put out. Like he's a really interesting guy. He's on a bit of a shooting bender. But, you know, playing with Sid, you put Raquel next to Jack.

[00:23:08] You know, one for one. That's the deal. But, you know, and I've said this before. I feel like Dawson doesn't necessarily have his role clearly defined of like where he kind of slots in in this lineup. You know, he was – he did get some run on the first line. He's – hopefully now they have kind of a home with this hollow Timo Mercer line, which actually looked really good. And I think – I think actually works pretty well the way the pieces fit together.

[00:23:38] Maybe that's it. But – I disagree with you about saying that he doesn't have a well-defined role on this team. Only because I think a guy like him, he needs to be Sergey Breeland. He needs to be the guy that can play the penalty kill, can play the power play, can play anywhere lines one through four. And wherever you put them, they do the right thing and they play smart and they contribute when they can. Sneaky, sneaky big goals. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:24:06] That's who Dawson Mercer needs to be on this team. He doesn't need to be Jack Hughes. He doesn't need to be Jesper Brad. He doesn't need to be Timo or Nico. He needs to be what Sergey Breeland was with those other – with those other double teams. I guess I meant more like is he a wing? Is he a center? Okay. I don't think he's either. Is he a first-line wing? Is he a third-line center? Like I don't – like that's kind of what I mean in terms – I get, you know, he's very quickly slotted in power play too.

[00:24:35] He's a penalty killer, does, you know, a marginally good job on the power play and a really good job on the penalty kill. And that's one of the things that kills me is on the penalty kill, he's great at getting in lanes, breaking stuff up, and getting the puck out of the zone. And he just can't fucking do that at 5-on-5. It drives me nuts. It's like why can't you do this same thing? It's just when he's on the boards, he's worthless and it bothers me. I've probably given him more shit than I need to because he's a perfectly

[00:25:04] serviceable NHL-er. But I don't know. Lazar, to your point of – like, yeah, he's great. He was the co-host with Amanda at Sweep the Deck and does his cute little stuff. He's a fantastic human being. Absolutely. I love the guy. But, hey, man, we need more from him. That line got just absolutely caved in last night. Like, their numbers are fucking atrocious. Like, their expected goal numbers, like, individually and as a line, are all, like, 11%, 12%, 13%.

[00:25:33] Same with all the other numbers. Like, I don't know if they got stuck out there against Sid and just bullied around, but it was just not a good night for them. And they had a nice little two-game run where they were our best line, but they're back to being a pretty bad line. Yeah, let's put it this way. And I'm going to use Brennan Dillon as an example. And somebody on one of the social medias at some point in the last week or so

[00:26:03] had posted something about, like, his contract not aging well, referencing the fact that maybe they didn't like Dillon's play, which, by the way, in 55 games, he's got two goals, 10 assists, 12 points, is a plus 13. And he only makes $4 million a year for the next two years. So I don't even want to get into what that was about because I think Dillon is nowhere near the problem on this team. But let's use him as the new Mendoza line here. Brendan Dillon has 12 points. Eric Holla has 11. Nathan Bastian has 8.

[00:26:32] Curtis Lazar has 4. I mean, Dillon is outpacing you by 3. It just goes to show you, like, you need a little bit more production throughout the lineup when a guy like Dillon is, like, two-thirds. Has three times more points than Curtis Lazar? Yeah. Anybody. I mean, Tatar's tied with him in points. I mean, would you say that you'd accept that at the beginning of the year? Tatar and Dillon wind up the same? Of course not. So it's just good to you. There's something that's got to reconnect with some of these lower,

[00:27:01] you know, lower line players. And I think that's what's holding this team back. They get depth scoring. This is a completely different team. They're dangerous as hell. You know, and that's why I had said that I'm going to kind of reserve my initial feelings of how this team, what I think about this team until after the Four Nations. Get these next two games over with. Get Nico Heischer back. Get Jacob Markstrom back. Pull the trigger on any trades that you might have lined up.

[00:27:30] If possible, do it during the Four Nations. Get going in two and a half weeks with the team that's going to go into the playoffs. And then let's really see what this team's got. But they're not going to go far in the playoffs. If the guys that we just mentioned keep up at this pace, like they just can't. We can get guys in Utica that can give us more production on a fourth line than what we're getting from these guys. And it's,

[00:27:58] I think it's the linchpin of every line is the center. And I just don't think Lazar is, is a decent center. Am I frozen still for you guys? Yeah. Your audio is fine. Yeah. All right. Whatever. It's a great freeze too. You don't look dorky or any more dorky. I look marginally concerned. Yes, you do. Which is basically how I feel about this team. I'm still, I think, I think we're going to be okay. But like this,

[00:28:28] this hasn't been the high flying, amazing season that I thought we were all coming or that we were hoping we're coming or that we were playing earlier in the year. And that's fine. If they need to grind out some of this shit, get through some of these injuries, stay where they are. You know, like I've said this a couple of times, like I use 600 is that, that sort of demarcation of like, like you're a good team. You know, they're, they're still third in the Metro last night was for two of this because Columbus lost a Carolina loss. Like we're,

[00:28:56] we're kind of right on Carolina's heels and there's a good amount of space between us and Columbus, but that can go South pretty quickly. But after four nations, after four nations, there's 25 games, 50 points on the table. You know, I'd like to see them get 30 of those. All right, let's do a quick commercial. And when we come back, I have two questions that I want to ask you guys. This ain't the little itty bitty teeny tiny bowl.

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[00:30:49] the official sports betting partner of the NFL. The crown is yours. I have breaking news. Can I do a breaking news? I never get to do a breaking news. Right here, live on the podcast. It is 10 16 at night. So most people won't be hearing this till tomorrow, but the polar bears back with the New York Mets. That stupid saga is over. He signed for two years. He's coming back. I just had to get that out. Six minutes ago.

[00:31:19] So that's pretty close to breaking. Just to get smoked by the Dodgers. Wait, you guys got a polar bear on your team? Yes. The actual polar bear. Like, is this a mascot or does it? It's like, it's like the, it's like the walrus in gold. He's a mascot that smashes balls and tries to catch him at first base. But yeah. Who is the polar bear? Pete Alonzo. I have no idea. Okay. Alonzo is. I know who Pete Alonzo is. I didn't know he called him the polar bear. That's his nickname. Yeah. Why did that take so long for them to renew?

[00:31:49] Like, it was the most ridiculous shit ever after, you know, what was it? $760 million for Juan Soto, which was way more ridiculous than whatever Scott Boris wanted for this guy. Either way, it should have never, never taken this long. But yeah. Well, I'm right. You know, especially two years or so. So yeah, there you go. Breaking news right here. Breaking news. It was most certainly breaking. Fuck the Mets. Tim,

[00:32:17] said that there's 27 games left after this, right? I mean, 25 games after the. After four years. Yeah, these two. There's 20, 27 games left. How many of those games happen before the trade deadline? All right. So we have, let's see. All kinds of hard questions. What's that? You're asking me all kinds of hard questions. No, I know, but the trade deadline is what? March 7th. Yes.

[00:32:48] Let's see. Where's the rest of my schedule here? I just fucking had it. I'm sorry, guys. Okay. 14 different devil's pages up, but I can't find it either. I know. Right. So tomorrow's the game against Vegas on the 6th, right? Yes. February. Right. So March 7th is, it's only giving me till April. Oh, there. I'm an idiot. Six games. All right. So March, how many games? Two, three, four, six, including the seven, eight, nine,

[00:33:18] 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Why do I have that many games? I have 19 to March 7th from March 7th to the end of the season. I have 19. Oh, I was doing from the year until March 7th. No, no, no. Okay. So, so we have, we have 19 games from the trade deadline to the end of the year. So here's my question. Is the trade deadline too late in the season? Do they need to move this up to maybe before the all-star break?

[00:33:49] Uh, I mean, from a percentage of games played, that's, that's 23% of your season left. So I think that's kind of fitting. You can really tell what you're getting with a player for a quarter of your season, right? So you're, you're okay with where it is. I guess I'm okay. I mean, could you move it up a little bit? Sure. Why not? That wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it's saying this is way too late is my point. Okay. It's, um, it's a good question. Um, it, I don't know. I,

[00:34:19] it doesn't really, I don't know. I don't really care either way. Um, I think it probably could be a little bit earlier. Um, but you know, maybe there are like 30 games left as opposed to 20. Um, but, um, there's a lot that goes into it. Like, you know, the cap accrual and stuff like that, that then leads to what you can afford at the deadline. So some teams may want it to be later in certain years. That's what I was going to ask. Do you think it's more that the,

[00:34:47] the ownership and the NHL want it later just because also general managers are going to want to take as much time as possible to make sure they don't, you know, they get the right guy really know what their team is. I, I think 30 games is the kind of the, the number for me. Like if you can move this up maybe two weeks and just do it, you know, uh, with 10 more games or so in the regular season, and I think 30 games are really fine tune. Um,

[00:35:13] cause I think if you gave 10 more games to Timo Meyer before the playoff started, I think he's much more productive on this team. It felt like there was only like three games before, you know, the playoff started and he was in here. I know it was a lot more, but that's how it felt to me. I think come over hurt. I think he was hurt. Like, yeah. Didn't he have like a knee problem when he got here or something like that? I think you're right. Um, it's he, go ahead. Yeah. And I think they're also kind of, they, they,

[00:35:43] the, um, all-star break is a bit of an unofficial nobody do anything during this. So I don't know the all-star breaks, the all-star game is stupid, but I thought last year was fun with the, at least the skills competition. I thought the way they did it last year was a lot of fun. I always enjoy the skills competition a lot. Yeah. The games, the game, I don't even think I watched last year. Um, yeah. So I did like the skills competition. I'm kind of bummed. Like, I hope the four nations is good because I'm kind of bummed that we don't get the skills competition this year.

[00:36:13] I, you know, a lot of these guys, the way they're talking publicly, they're excited about it. I don't know if, you know, if that's not true, but like, so many, like, you know, you look at Crosby or, uh, I'll say McDavid, you know, is super excited to play with Crosby, you know, and, and, you know, where is country colors? Now these guys, it's a big deal for them to wear, to wear their, their country uniform. You know, like when I, when I did it for one scrimmage and I even had like a USA scrimmage jersey on, I was like, this is pretty cool.

[00:36:44] Um, I bet it would be awesome. But then they told me to leave after that. It was a little weird. They, they handed them the Canadian one. I was, well, I was, I was minus three and like five minutes of play. And I was like, I don't think I belong here. Um, Ryan Graves, they call it. Um, bro, Ryan Graves, man. Poor Ryan Graves. Maybe he looked good last night, didn't he?

[00:37:09] Anybody thinks that he was the reason that we had a down year last year. You can shut the fuck up. I should not. You should not have children. I think the verdict is in. I can't give him back. No, no. I mean, you know, you should just go get a Subaru and move to Vermont. One of the guys, one of the guys on the, uh, Ranger broadcast before said something talking about international play. They're like, just imagine this next year in the Olympics, you could possibly see five Americans out there.

[00:37:38] And it would be Jack Hughes centering Matthew and Brady could Chuck and Luke and Quinn in the back. How cool would that be? Just two families. That's an American line. Right. Just two hockey families out there in the Olympics on one, one line. That would be amazing. I want to see that now. Yeah. Makes me want to evade taxes. And you know, where are the Olympics next year? Oh, that's a very good question. I don't know. Do we know if it's like in this country or not? I think they're coming back to Salt Lake city, but I don't think that's this year.

[00:38:08] I think that's the next winter Olympics. I think this one is in Europe for some reason. I'm thinking not that I don't want to go there, but I think that's the one that's here. I want to go to Milano Cortina in Italy, Italy. Okay. Yeah. And actually there was a ruling yesterday that Russia is still out of international competition via the IIHF, which is like world juniors, world championships. The IOC controls the Olympics.

[00:38:37] So I don't know if they're tied to that decision, but I think they usually kind of make the same determinations. I mean, if I take the politics out of it, I would love to see Russia in there. I mean, with their players, I want to see those guys in the Olympics. Absolutely. Just with the team that they can put out there. Yeah. It just sucks that, that, you know, they're, they're just, you know, such the, the geopolitics of it all just is affecting, is getting into this. And now geopolitics is getting into, you know, the NHL, you know,

[00:39:06] they're the one league that really has a lot of, you know, a lot of us Canadian relationships that need to need to be well maintained. Yes, they do. When we're getting our national anthem boot at Senator games. Yeah. Just, I don't know. And now you can't be reactionary and say, you know, don't play the Anthem for games for regular games. I got a quick question about the end. And listen, it's a free country, free, free continent. I'll say they can boo what they want to boo. They have their reasons. And,

[00:39:36] you know, I mean, it just, it sucks. It's completely fucking sucks. But, um, I was watching a Sabre game the other night. I never noticed this. I don't know if this is what they do. I, I, because it's hockey. Uh, they were playing Nashville. So it was two U S based teams and they sang both national anthems. Now I understand the proximity to Canada and that tons of people in outside Toronto and in Toronto are Sabre fans. And it's a short travel for them to go to the games.

[00:40:05] Did they always do that though? Not that I'm aware of. I was, I only thought they sang the Canadian and American national anthems when those teams from those countries were playing. It's not like they sing the American national anthem when an Edmonton's playing Calgary. Oh, and they don't sing the Canadian anthem when a Canadian team's playing in New Jersey, do they? I haven't been there in so long. Absolutely. Yeah. It's always, whenever a Canadian team is in, in, uh, the rock, they sing both national anthems, but it's just, I never heard one's two American teams, them singing the Canadian one.

[00:40:35] I guess that's something Buffalo does. I thought it was pretty cool. Actually. Just a lot of respect, or maybe it's due to recent climate that they introduced that just to show solidarity. Maybe. That might be it. I always find myself singing it. You know, it's just, it's a, I learned it from every experience I've ever had with Canada and with Canadians has always just been nothing but positive, man. It really has like the few spots I've been in Canada have been awesome. Going to that game. Like we talk about all the time. Montreal has been awesome. I love the little flappy heads, like your snap and beady little eyes. I mean,

[00:41:05] it was Terrence and fucking Phillip. It's about, I mean, we're willing to, we're willing to look past Brian Adams, but seriously, you, you said it dead on, man. I love the country. I love the people, you know, there, Barack Obama said it best when he said that Canadians like invasion of body snatchers, right? They look like Americans. They talk like Americans. It's not American.

[00:41:38] But anyway, like I said, we're, we're still sitting pretty well in the standings, you know, tomorrow will be a good test. Montreal will be another good test. Just get to this break. I don't know what they're going to do. Call up wise for Sagan thought, you know, we haven't heard about what question. Yeah. Look at me. I actually, somebody wrote, somebody wrote something. I'm like, I think it was pucks and pitchforks.

[00:42:06] I took the article about just that. So let's kind of go over that real quick. And then let me know what you guys, who you guys are thinking. So this is three immediate replacements for Jonas Siegenthaler. This is by Nick Villano. So the number three, he has his Colin white. And he writes, it's probably not everyone's favorite option, but calling Colton white, but calling up Colton white might be the Colin. White can maybe still play. Might be the option that comes with the least amount of red tape.

[00:42:37] White has spent the most time with the devils acting as the healthy scratch for almost all of December. He knows the team, the expectations from practice, what Sheldon Keefe is looking for. And he likely gained some chemistry with the devils. White is also acting as the comments, top line defenseman right now. He would play most similarly to Siegenthaler. He's nowhere near as good as him. No offense, but Siegenthaler is really good at defense, but he would be a seamless transition in the lineup. After two seasons away from the organization,

[00:43:04] the devils bought white back this off season to add depth to the team. He's here in a situation like he's sorry. He's here in a situation like this, where injuries are piling up and they need a body until they figure out what's next. Is a trade necessary? Can they reconfigure the lineup until Nemec is ready? Do you need a guy to play these next two games? Well, how talk goes through a conditioning stint. White is your guy. The devils have some options. Nothing can replace Siegenthaler one for one from inside the devil's organization, but they have the options to get them through while they wait to see how

[00:43:33] bad his injury actually is. That's number one. The next guy he has, I'm sorry. That was number three. I'm going backwards. Number two, he has activate Sentira Hataka. So Sentira Hataka hasn't played a game this season after he suffered a shoulder injury right before the season started. He had to get surgery, but it appears he's ready to go after practicing for a few weeks with the devils. Now the question is whether he will make a conditioning stint with the comments or he'll jump directly into the lineup.

[00:44:02] Hataka was a surprise piece in the Meyer trade. He's a young defenseman with an NHL upside and he plays naturally on the left side. He hasn't been too bad while he's been in the NHL. He's 24 years old. So we expect them to be in the league full time at some point. If this isn't, uh, if he isn't, it's almost guaranteed that the devils would lose him for nothing through waivers. So instead of losing him for nothing after his conditioning stint, or just keeping him stapled to the owner's box, it makes a lot of sense to give him a shot in the league with Siegenthal or out of commission.

[00:44:30] Hataka would give the devils the smoothest transition. He's not as defensive, defensive as a defensively as Sieg's, but he gives the devils more balance and can play his role. This might be, uh, our preference of Sheldon keep believes it what it and believes in what he sees at practice. It's hard to make his distinction without knowing. Now he's recovering how he's recovering from the shoulder surgery. If he's close to 100% to give him a shot. That was his number second pick. And the first one is of course, Shimon Nemich.

[00:44:59] He writes, call up Shimon Nemich. There's a light complication with calling up Nemich since he's a right handed defenseman, but that can easily be rectified by Pesci playing on the left side, which he's done with Hamilton in the past. Nemich has been incredible with the comments for two months. Now he just played in the AHL all-star game and look pretty good with the best of the minor leaguers. Nemich is not Siegenthal, but he provides the devils with two things that can help. He's incredibly balanced and can provide offense. The devils are missing. Nemich has drafted,

[00:45:29] was drafted to be a two way dynamo to pair one day with Luke Hughes. We're not there yet, but with the three game point streak and a great weekend at the AHL all-star game under his belt, Nemich's confidence is probably sky high. There's also the whole controversy around his comments about his status within the organization. It had the entire hockey world trying to get Nemich into terrible trade offers, but it makes way more sense for the devils to try Nemich in the NHL now that there's an opportunity.

[00:45:56] So those are the three guys that Nick Villano writes about. What's your order and why, and who do you want to say it? Before we do that, can I ask, wait, do we have, who's our seventh defenseman sitting right now? Paul and White. It is White. Okay. Yeah. That's what I thought. Okay.

[00:46:29] You know, what I, what I struggle with and I kind of decided on that, I think a, you know, Pesci has a history of playing on the left side. I do think there are concerns about playing on the offhand, but if he's had history, he's a vily veteran, you know, he's a tactician with a stick. I think, you know, that'll be pretty seamless transition. Give Nemich a shot, man. We're, we're struggling offensively. And if he can provide a little bit of boost there, I think that's the way to go.

[00:46:58] You know, White, I couldn't pick him out of a lineup. I have no idea what his game looks like, how he plays. I don't really remember. I feel like he's pretty defensively responsible, but you know, he's not, he's not a massive guy. Like see, he's like, we've talked about this before. He's like, he's a pretty sneaky big guy. And, Hataka, Hataka, Hataka, Hatakaka. If he's already up, and then this is another kind of, side issue that I'm thinking about,

[00:47:27] if they have to call someone up, then, that chews into the available cap space, which then affects, how much cap we accrue, and what kind of piece we can add, moving forward. So that would be my only concern, because basically his entire contract, would eat up our available cap space right now. I'll call up. So yeah, so I think, but I think you got to do that. I think, you know, we called Nemich, move Pesce over, and give that a look,

[00:47:56] and see what it looks like. What do you think, Bobby? So as you're reading these lists, I think I changed my mind three times. All seriousness, because at first, I'm thinking, with White, in regards to him, being the seventh guy all year, and like you said, being part of all the plays, and all the practices, my initial instinct was, next man up for him, but I think I'm quickly getting rid of that notion. If this were a one game for Siegenthaler, and you want to plug him in,

[00:48:26] I'm good with that. But Siegenthaler's going to be out for a while, right? So that changes the dynamic of where my mind's going with this. Pataka, to me, is the better defensive option than him. So I would have Pataka leapfrogging him, if I wanted to go that route, with taking that left shot, trying to keep kind of the balance, that we've had so far. But, like Tim said,

[00:48:54] if anybody's capable of going on his offhand, it would be Pesci, and again, I'm not a big fan of that either. And Nemec is our next best in line. And I think he has a lot to offer. I think I would go with calling up Nemec as well. This gives him a window of time to see what he's got, and to see how he's going to fit in with this team, the way it's currently constructed. It's not like he's going to do so well. We're like, perfect, good.

[00:49:23] Now we can trade Siegenthaler. Problem solved. It's not where it's going to go. Some other move would have to happen. But I guess given his stature, and given the fact that he is our best defensive prospect right now, I would bring him up. So I go in the exact order. That he listed. Yeah, I agree with that. Almost everything you said. Pretty much everything. I mean, Colton White, I agree totally. That's exactly where I was. Like, he's already there. He knows the plays, but you're dead on. Like, if this was a one or two game thing with Siegenthaler,

[00:49:52] but he is, you know, we don't know if he's coming back. So you have to think very long-term in this. Tim, why are you here twice? What did you do? I was not here at all. And then everything was bright. All right. Welcome back. No, the, the, I had to go give the gerbils some fruits. Fair enough. It's going to work again. Pick them in the ass. No, I was saying with Siegenthaler like this,

[00:50:20] you got to think long-term now you have to think maybe this is a position that a spot that you're going to have to roll into the playoffs with. I think that Nemich gives you the best opportunity come playoff time, like enough time. Now you bring them up. He fits into this lineup. It might be a rocky for him at first, but I think he's, dude, he's going to be that good. I mean, we saw glimpses of it last year. There's Hitaka. I liked everything I saw about him last year, but he's not Nemich. Right. But Tim,

[00:50:49] if what you said is right, that that would eat up the available cap space, then you can't do it. Am I wrong? Like you can't not make another move when you have guys that aren't going to cost you all of your cap. Yeah. But think about it. We, you know, a day ago we were in a position of strength where that defense wasn't our problem or consideration going into a playoff run. Now, essentially it maybe becomes a huge problem for us.

[00:51:19] So now you want to put the best possible asset we can in there, which could be Nemich. It's a guy that can go on a tear all of a sudden for no particular reason, you know, through a playoff round or halfway through or, or whatever, because now we have to deal with that. It's a deficiency. And then you worry about the rest. Yeah. but the other deficiencies I think surpass that. I think they are more efficient. And the cap thing. Okay. And the cap thing, like that changes so much.

[00:51:46] Like I literally have puck PD open and you know, when I, my computer just crashed, I had to restart it. Like before I restarted, it said we had like $890,000 in projected cap space and like a million and a half and current cap space. Now it says we have 3 million in caps, current cap space and 1 million and change and projected cap space. So I don't know what the hell happened, but so it probably won't eat up like all the cap space,

[00:52:15] but what happens is that, yeah, that it kind of accrues like interest to the, to the deadline. And then the, the available deadline cap space is what player you could afford based on their AAV. And right now that says 5.3. So. All right. If this, if you're still going to be able to make a move and get, you know, whether that's a three C, whether that's somebody to play with Jack doesn't matter right now. We're talking defense. If you can still.

[00:52:42] Finagle something to make this team better than you have to bring up damage. You know, I think that, like you said, he's next in line. Like he's what second overall draft pick, right? Like this dude, get them up. Yeah. And what I can just hear Tom Fitzgerald saying, well, you know, you get, you get your number one center and your number one goalie and your best defense defenseman and your best prospect up. That's a hell of a trade deadline.

[00:53:12] Oh, that's not fucking pick up anybody. Well, in these circumstances, we need to replace some bodies. So it is going to be important to get those guys back, but this is a little different with the length of time that Segent dollars likely out. So I don't think, you know, the other thing is he doesn't, we need all of Tatar, Lazar and Bastion. Like maybe he needs to get creative with the hockey trade to free up some cap and be like, find someone to take Tatar for half his money or, or whatever.

[00:53:40] Like we don't need all three of them not performing any one of them. I bring up no one foot or whomever, if they're all not going to perform, if that helps, you know, I agree with it. With the state of this team right now. Yeah. The guys that aren't performing are in danger. You're right. I mean, Bastion for one, three, five and foot for 800. I mean, that's half a million dollars in space. Are you going to miss a beat? I don't think you're going to miss a beat. I don't know. Like, I completely agree. Yeah. I completely agree.

[00:54:10] Maybe that's what this team needs. I mean, that's a GM's job. He's got, he's got to juggle all that and see if anything works and sticks, but yeah, I mean, Tatar and Bastion are on the last year of their deals. Tatar is 1.8. Bastion is 1.35. You know, yeah. Yeah. And Curtis out there that are looking for that type of guy on their playoff push teams that are really, really ready. They just truly want a strong veteran depth guy on the bottom. You're talking about Tatar? Tatar. Yeah.

[00:54:39] I think there are quite a few teams that would take a shot. Especially for half the money. Bastion on the other hand. No, no, but Tatar. Yeah. And that's, that would remove the most money from us. Like if that were an option, you know, I'm not, listen, I like the guy. I'm just saying production wise, like we need to fricking shake, shake some shit up. So I like it, man. That would make sense. Money wise. Yeah. Yeah. No. And, and we're going to have to, like if we bring in two guys, like there's only one open roster spot right now. We have 22 of the 20,

[00:55:09] 23 roster spots open right now. It's just, I mean, it's just a numbers game. Like someone's going to have to get waved or move down. And, and it'll be one of those two. It'll be bashing or Tatar probably, or Curtis. I don't know. Like Curtis was on the last year of his deal and only makes a million bucks. I think it should be probably Tatar. I think he's, because he's a, he's a notorious playoff ghost. And I think what he was brought in to be just didn't work. And I don't know why we're still kind of carrying this guy around. Yeah.

[00:55:39] I mean, I would order it or something like that. Tatar, Bashin, Lazar would be my order of removing. If I could, I had to put them in that order. Yeah. And if you think about it, like, like bastion or bastion and, and Lazar actually are pretty good penalty killers. And Tatar doesn't do that. And he's on power play too, which whatever we can find, you know, another warm body to put on power play too.

[00:56:06] And I think bastion and bastion and Lazar did actually have a good penalty killing game. They actually gave the bastion, the Ford tough play of the game or something like that for, or two, two shots. He blocked in the first period of penalty kill. I like bizarre enough to sign him again, even though his production's down, like bastion to me, make him an equipment manager and just have them just bust Luke's balls all day. I think he's the type of guy that can have pick up another good year next year. Like, you know,

[00:56:35] I don't think it's all on him right now. I'm just saying, but out of the three, I guess my point is like, yeah, Tatar's on real thin fucking eyes. Yeah. But I wouldn't mind. Yeah. Built a better lineup around him. Yeah. Keep obviously saw something pretty immediately moving him all the way down to the fourth. Right. Look, he's been a trooper about it, but at $1.8 million, that money's better served somewhere else. Yeah, I agree. And it should be Nemich. I think that's what they're going to do.

[00:57:04] It's going to be fun to see who it is. We'll find out tomorrow. Um, but anything else you guys want to discuss before we wrap this thing up? I do. Now, real quick. Um, did either one of you guys, you beat me to the punch. About, um, let's see the PWHL's no escape rule. This is actually an old article. I took a picture out of my phone like months ago. I just forgot to bring it up. Like they don't go to escape rooms. They're not allowed to jail,

[00:57:34] the jailbreak rule, or they want to, so the jailbreak rule was last year, right? Where basically they said, if you score a shorthanded goal on the penalty, it will release. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is similar. No escape rule. Basically. It states that the players who are on the ice, when the penalty is assessed against their team must remain on the ice to start the entire penalty kill, similar to how players are trapped on the ice after an isa. So if you're already exhausted,

[00:58:03] you're starting from efficiency. Efficiency. I like that. Yeah. I was wondering if you guys had even heard of it. Cause when I read it again, beginning of this hockey season, I really wanted to bring this up. So I first read it thinking that meant they need to be on the ice, the entire kill. Apparently they just have to start it, but they have to start it. So they can't get a line change. And that's, that's pretty big. I think that's awesome. For rules that are, has some, has some fun rules. Right. And add some offense.

[00:58:33] That seems like one that would, because that first 30 seconds, 45 seconds of a power play is crucial. And if they're already getting stuck out there and we've seen it with the devils too, like, you know, cause it could go the other way. You know, you're stuck back there a minute and a half, two minutes. You take a dumb penalty and the puck is dropped right away. And you have to stay out there in your own zone. You might be pinned in for a minute, minute. Yeah. Then you take the penalty. That's what I said. The other team's keeping playing keep away. No, yeah, no. Oh yeah.

[00:59:03] And if it's your center before the whistle's even blown. Yeah. And if it's your center that gets the penalty and you only have the two wings on the ice, they're probably going to lose that. There you go. And just get absolutely fucking buried. I love that. I love that rule. I would love to see the NHL and NHL fiddle around with some of these rules. Like Jeff Merrick talks about getting rid of neutral zone face-offs all the time. Like if there's, if like you're off sides, send it all the way back in your own defensive zone, like penalize that a little bit more.

[00:59:33] I guess that would theoretically add offense and a large scope. Right. Why don't we just go to an Olympic size rink? And then implement those rules. You want offense? You'll get it. Olympic size rink three on three. Oh, I'd watch it. I'd watch it every fricking night. If one of the teams were the New Jersey devils, I'd watch it every night. Absolutely. Jack Hughes and Jessica Brad on Olympic rank would be just insane. That would be unfair.

[01:00:02] Like the four on fours that they had, like they were better at four on four than they were on the power play last night. Yeah. I was like, that's what I kind of wrote jokingly in my recap. I was like, I was like maybe Palat's doing a little bit of strategy there by, by actually taking that, taking that penalty so they could get to the four on four. Hey man, keep doing it. They're great. Four on four. I get excited when it goes four on four. You know, I know Carolina, I think beat us on a four on four this year. I think they got the better of us, but we are fun to watch,

[01:00:32] but, but that's a cool ass rule. Yeah. And I agree, but the, I wish he at least, you know, do it in preseason or something. Let's check it out. Let's see how it is. I think it would be. Yeah. Let's try it in the AHL. That'd be awesome. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Try the ECHL that, I mean, there's like, that's like the jungle down there. All right. We're going to wrap this thing up. It's getting kind of late. So thanks so much for checking us out guys. If you're watching us on the YouTube channel, we appreciate it. Subscribe, trying to get that thing rolling.

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