Punchable Faces, Hurt Feelings & Juho

[00:00:06] Hey everyone, Mr. Devil here, Kenny Danico, three-time Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils, and you're listening to the Uncle Puckers New Jersey Devils Podcast. Let's go Devils! Let's go Devils! Hello everybody, welcome to the Uncle Pucker New Jersey Devil Podcast, and we are the said Uncle Puckers. I'm Chris with Tim Wood, Bobby Pennsylvania.

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[00:01:00] It's just God saying things. I, I, I, so where is the light? Hi Steven! It's nice of you to join us with such a pleasant hello. Yo, dicks, that's what he writes. Um, and... He gets the goat. Give him the goat. Give him the goat. That is actually kind of a really creepy noise. I can imagine hearing that in the middle of the night. Actually, I do hear shit like that around here.

[00:01:27] This is, we're going to give the goat a job. Um, that is the inappropriate goat. Ooh. So anytime somebody says something inappropriate or Bobby Deems is inappropriate, he can. Yeah. I didn't hear it. Oh wait. Oh, so it doesn't work from the top. Kinda. Why's it getting lower? I don't know. Maybe we got to get the goat his own microphone.

[00:01:55] Maybe the goat only can scream a couple of times and you got to let it sit out. Not everything can be the goat. No, he's screaming. Maybe this microphone learned that to pick it up. Microphone? Microphone. Maybe your son bought you a piece of shit and it broke already. Maybe he was like, you think you're the goat dad, but you're not. Just throw in the kitchen trash. This is where I need the inappropriate goat. Just throw it in the trash and see if he notices. Did, uh, did you guys have a good father's day? Yes. Sure.

[00:02:23] Tim, you and I didn't see our children on father's day. Yeah, I got it. I got a couple of nice text messages and some cards. I got, I got one. I worked 38 hours over the last three days. So I got my kids texted me. And then when I got home, my daughter actually, when she got home from work was nice enough to actually wish me a happy father's day. My son completely forgot after the text, which I'm sure my wife told him to send. So that's it. So that's my father's day, but I don't celebrate shit like that.

[00:02:52] I don't, I'm not big on that kind of stuff. I got lots of nice stuff. Yeah, you did. You got it all. You got it. I got, I would have been happy with just a fucking goat. Yeah. I should remember. It's pretty bad-ass. I got a picture of me and my boy turned into art by a local artist. Very cool. That's really cool. That was really cool, right? That picture and turned it into a painting. That's- I love it. It's one of my favorite pictures. And now it's a painting. We can, you know, just hand it down generation to generation.

[00:03:22] You look great in it too, Bob. You look nice and- That surfer rod. Yeah. We know why it's your favorite. We know why it's your favorite picture. Yeah. Cause I look super good. I did, uh, years ago when my son who just turned 17, when he was about five or six, I would say he drew me a picture for my birthday and it was just the cutest damn thing. It was like me as a stick figure, holding his hand as a stick figure with little five-year-old hearts around it.

[00:03:49] And I absolutely love the picture so much that I actually got it tattooed on me. So that, that's probably like the only equivalent I have to your poster that you, that your picture that you got was the tattoo. I argue yours might be a little more, you know, it's a, it's a tattoo. Like, no, but yours is, yours is awesome too. I also got to play MLB 25, the show with them. How'd Soto do? I love that game. He had two home runs and I won eight to four. Just so you know. I don't even have to play the game. Huh?

[00:04:19] Who was Caden? If you were the Mets. Uh, I was the Mets and who did he, he's San Diego. Okay. Yeah. Like two inside the park home runs. Cause apparently when I'm an outfielder, I can't figure out how to pick up the ball and throw it back. When I was doing good on the infield, I don't know why. Yeah. Kind of like me when I really play baseball and I'm in the outfield. Why is he throwing it the second? I'm meant to throw it to first shit all the time. Yeah. Basically. But I do like, I do like that. You're like, you still kicked his ass.

[00:04:49] No. Yeah. I totally didn't expect to win. Just all of a sudden I just wound up hitting a couple of home runs and I wound up winning. He was destroying me the whole time. Like stealing bases, knowing where to throw. It was, it was crazy. But apparently the game is so, um, so much better technologically now that like, I'm so used to playing in the old days. Like if the ball's at the third base, right. As soon as you catch the ball, like I hit X or whatever, that's the equivalent to throw the first base. And I just habitually will just pound that button. Right. Just to make sure I hit it as fast as I can.

[00:05:15] Well, in this game, like literally if you hit it twice, it makes them double clutch. I was like, you son of a bitch. So every time I caught the ball, I'm like, and he's just like, and then the guy standing on the back. It's already jerking off the air. Yeah. So, uh, I haven't played as Steven angle, just said NHL 95 is a game of all games. I don't, I was in, I was in NHL 94, 94, 95 were pretty good. I think 95 was the year they took out the blood.

[00:05:43] Like you could, you could actually make someone bleed on the ice. Which one did we play all the time? Bob, I'll be your school. 94. 94. Oh yeah. Sega, Sega Genesis, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even when I got some of the older ones, even like the last one I bought 2014, which correlates to my son being born, which is why I don't have any new NHL games. But even that's got the, uh, the 94 controls. Ooh. Like now that's all I could play. I wasn't able to do skill stick 10 years ago.

[00:06:14] Not to brag. You know, I just can't figure that crap out anymore. Yeah. The, the whole, like, you know, we're like, this is dangling and this is to do like a move and you got to press this button and this button and give it like one of these. And you're just like, what the fuck? So many buttons now. Like, can I just pass and shoot and do like one timers and then like the Jeremy Roenick move and like call it a day. That's why I was only good at like blades of steel. Cause it was just two buttons. You know, um, you never wanted to be the fat guy. Yeah. The fat guy. You had the skinny guy. That was ice hockey. Blades of steel.

[00:06:44] Yeah. No, no, no. There are two ice hockey. The very first hockey game on Nintendo blades. Yeah. That was awesome. Well, just no, no, but blades of steel was fun. It was great. Yeah. You took that slap shot from the blue line that went in every single time. So speaking of hockey, I, Oh, I'm sorry, Tim. Go ahead. Yeah. I was just gonna say an NHL 94. My sneaky team was the Hartford Whalers. They were awesome. Jeff Sanderson, Sean castles, Chris Prong. Ray Ferraro on that team. No, it was.

[00:07:14] I was telling Tim that story. I heard that. Listen to the episode. Yeah. Completely forgot about that. That was. Yeah. Because we played with like a no, um, no Blackhawks, no Red Wings. Like you couldn't be, you know, the Irishman Federov or you couldn't be Roan a Kamani. You know, Jeremy Roan and Tony Amani played together at the same boarding school. Yes, I do. I did. Yeah. Like that must've been like wildly unfair.

[00:07:41] That was the 1994 Western conference final. Wasn't it? No. 95 Western conference final. Yeah. I think you might be right. It was Chicago Detroit and then us and Philly. That was 95. Yeah. Yeah. 94 Eastern conference final. Of course was us and the Rangers. The Western conference final was Vancouver. L. A. Am I? I don't remember that. I don't remember either.

[00:08:10] If anybody knows, let us know who was the Western conference team that lost to the Vancouver Canucks in the Western conference finals 30 something years ago. So. You need to know this right now. There's some fog up here from. Yeah. So. All right. Yeah. Game five. Stanley Cup final. Man. What happened? What happened to our Oilers? Don't know. Oh, I switched by the way. I'm on the oiler bandwagon. Now.

[00:08:40] Now. I know. Right. Because when it's inevitable, they're going to lose tomorrow night. I'm jumping on. I'm right. Yeah. I just, I, I, I, what happened? It was, I mean, other than Brad fricking Marshawn happened. He's. What an unbelievable turn of events. Like he's quite possibly. And I don't think a trade deadline acquisition is ever won the cons might. Like he's not going to win the cons might.

[00:09:08] I think he might, if he puts up another game, like he did the other night, like he's right up there. Him and better. Right. I think it's between those two, but I just think 15 goals. In these playoffs is enough. 13 or 13 of them on the road. Like. Yeah, no, it's fair. I just, I know there is some, if he has another crazy performance, I feel like there is a decent amount of recency bias. Dude. You can put him in the conversation for sure.

[00:09:36] I think if Bennett wasn't just blowing up the world right now, then it would be more legit, but you just can't. Can't shake your head at this 13 goals or whatever. That's. I mean, that's why I say that that clip of Marsha and for Kate and just jump in the face off on that play. Like that is such an elite play. It's literally the one play I, you know, cause like I said, I was at a music festival, so I just had to watch the clips and I wasn't even going to that type of game. I was like, I don't even need to see the highlights, but then I was like, Oh, let me, let me turn them on. And I'm really glad I did because I saw that. I was like, Jesus Christ.

[00:10:05] If ever there was something to show my kid about just keeping your feet moving and driving to the net, you know what I mean? It's like the absolute perfect example. It was just amazing. It's amazing. It's like the ISO cam on him watching him jump the face off and get the puck and then get the puck back and then just absolutely dance wallman like he did. And then the puck protection with two guys and walling on his back and another guy coming from, from over here just to protect the puck and being only five, nine and be able to,

[00:10:33] to be able to kind of kick out your legs that wide and still get good momentum and good wood on. It's unbelievable, man. What it was. I mean, he's making it. He's probably made himself an extra $10 million. Right. You know, Florida, unfortunately, like, look, you look at this series, you look at the playoff in general, they don't have Sam Bennett. They don't have Brad March on. I don't think they're in the position they're in right now. Like Barkov's been pretty quiet. Kachuk's been pretty quiet. Reinhardt's been. Reinhardt's been invisible. One goal for Hague, I think is one goal.

[00:11:03] You know, so Rodriguez only has. I don't think he has any goals in this series. So, you know, you take those two guys who, I mean, this could be a huge blow for the Florida Panthers if they can't resign at least one of them. I think if they let both of those guys walk out the door, they might be in trouble come playoff time. I think they're going to be, you know, of course, a very good regular season team. But then again, knowing, you know, Zito, he'll just get two other guys that play like that at the deadline and they'll win the cup next year.

[00:11:31] And I was listening to Jeff America interviewed on this what chaos show. And of course, you know, what Devils Twitter doesn't have anything better to do. They argue about analytics versus the eye test. And it's pretty interesting. He basically was like, you know, Bill Zito doesn't do anything without running it past Sonny Mehta, who's their, their analytics guy. And, you know, it's kind of like the sequencing of how I think most teams really operate where they'll have a scout

[00:12:00] be like, hey, I think I like this guy. I love the analytics guy, check them out. And then the watch of the full kind of volume of his tape just to make sure that that it kind of lines up with everything that they've seen before they make a decision on them. You know, I think with known commodities like a Marsh and or someone like that, it may be a little bit different of a process. But to be able to identify like this is what Marsh and really good at.

[00:12:24] He'll fit perfectly on our third line, you know, with Lindell and Lister Ryan in that I think is is pretty heavily analytically driven. Like, you know, it's like Marsh and excels at for checking and getting on the clock and being kind of relentless. And there are micro stats for for all of that. And that'll fit really well with with our third line. It's just a remarkable job. These these guys do. I'm like so envious of Florida. You can't think you can't think they were going to get this much out of them, though, can you?

[00:12:54] Not a margin. You can hope. Right. But no. Right. And that's the thing. It's like, you know, yeah, you can say the analytics say he fits. But if he just doesn't perform, you know, like look at Timo Meier. Right. I'm sure, you know, they had a whole analytic workup on him, checked his eye test for like, yeah, he's going to be great. And for whatever reason, the production hasn't been there. You know, that's that's kind of the danger of doing that. But I think, you know, with with Marsh and it's worked, it's worked with unbelievably. But it also worked with Bennett. It also worked with Reinhardt.

[00:13:24] It also worked with Forsling. It also worked with fucking Mikola. It also worked with Boquist. It also worked with Nosek. They don't. They have not made a bad move. They haven't. You know, and I thought losing, you know, Montour last year was going to be a blow. And they just plug other dudes in and they play. It really is. Not to mention Seth Jones, too. Yeah. And they don't unbelievable resurgence in his career. They are all showing up.

[00:13:51] And they don't obviously get there without LTR either. No, that's true. But does whatchamacallit does. Does the day win it tomorrow? Is it over? Or is Edmonton actually is McDavid and dry saddle actually going to wake up? I mean, they've been great, but I'm saying actually carry this team to a win. Is it tomorrow or is it tonight? It's tomorrow. It's definitely not tonight. It's three days with travel. Right. That's lame. Yeah. I thought it was going to record. I was going to watch that and then go to beer league.

[00:14:21] Well, it's it's the other night. Well, because they had switched the game. I think the one game I thought was on. I forget what day it was, but I had like called my wife and I was at work. I was like, just can you please set the recording? I was like, I thought that it was the next day and it was a two day break. Oh, it was between games. I think three and four. They had a two day break. Why they're not leaving Florida. I don't know. Like, you know, arena availability, whatever. But I felt the same way. I had my whole night planned to what I was going to do when I got home and it all revolved

[00:14:50] around that game. And then I didn't get to watch it. So, but what do you know? So. I don't know how to put this. So I'm going to say that Edmonton wins just because I really want to see a game seven. It'll go back to Edmonton. No, as some entry, but at this point, and plus I picked them, but I don't know. Florida just looks like, you know, I, the tiger type shit, dude. They're just juggernauts. So I don't know. Yeah, I'm kind of with you on that.

[00:15:19] You know, I want to see a game seven just for a game seven sake, just have another game seven. It would be awesome. This time it'll be in Edmonton. Right. You know, and Edmonton said all along, if we take it to game seven, you know what we're going to win this. But, dude, I don't know, man. Florida, they just, they step on your throats and they don't, they don't let up. And I've never seen a team that smells blood and pounces on that better than, better than they have. Like, I don't think I've ever seen a team like them.

[00:15:49] And they're starting too quick. Yes. I mean, come on. That's got to get into your head if you're Edmonton. Like, what the hell are we going to do? Because you know, you're not beating them once they take that lead. Yeah. I mean, it's also, you can play your guts out, but you know, Well, they had a three goal lead in game five and they blew or game four rather. And they blew that. I mean, look, it's gone Florida, Edmonton, Florida, Edmonton. So, you know, Edmonton's due to win tomorrow, but I don't, I don't know. I mean, who gets in goal?

[00:16:16] I mean, I thought Skinner was done because Pickard played so good, but there's a big difference with getting that call cold off the bench. All right, get in there. And then having two days to actually think about your start and all that. And they go to sleep at night and shit like that. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, do you go back to Skinner? Do you? I don't even know what to do. Skinner's the guy. Skinner's the guy. And I've heard a lot of discourse about this today that I kind of agree with that. Skinner's the guy. He's the guy that got you there.

[00:16:51] Skinner does seem to bounce back pretty well after really, really bad games. I know he got pulled, but like after really bad games, he plays the whole thing and gets a night off and then comes back. He actually does pretty well. And being in a, I was going to say, just being an elimination game too, for just what you said, like if I'm going to go down, I'm going to go down with the guys that brought us here and Skinner is that dude. So, you know, to just take them out and put Callan. I'm not sure about that. Well, how about this? I mean, yeah, it's, it's do or die from here on out.

[00:17:20] So do you, is your proverbial leash a little bit shorter? You know, if it's two goals in the first two shots, you like, that's it. I've seen enough. Or do you still give them rope? That's a good question. I guess it depends on the goals. It depends on, you know, stuff like that. But I mean, just in general, you think it's shorter. What if like, he does some debore shit and like, then now block gets fired. Like, I don't know. I don't see, I don't see a world where scoot, Stu Skinner is their starter goalie next year.

[00:17:50] I don't see that. I see Jake Allen or who's the guy in Anaheim? Oh, fucking Gibson. Gibson. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I, I guess, I mean, I, Skinner is, I've always just thought Skinner was a middle of the road goalie, but at the same time, this dude has brought you to two cup finals. I mean, they haven't won it. I get it.

[00:18:16] And I do think you have to upgrade in that position if you're Edmonton, because in reality, you only know that you have this team together for one more year because you really don't know what happens with McDavid here on out. I mean, it's all assuming he's going to sign for, you know, $20 million a year. Right. But again, you never know. So I think, yeah, Edmonton has to make whatever changes they have to do. They got to do it this summer.

[00:18:43] I mean, I don't know if John Gibson and Jake Allen already answered, but you know, they have the same issue that we had. I mean, they are an elevated version of the Devils. You know, their top three players, I think of something like 80, 90% of the offensive production, you know, it's Leon dry Seidel and like Evander Kane. And then like nobody else has really contributed much of anything this year. Florida is the opposite. You know, Kachuk, Barkov, Reinhardt haven't really contributed much of anything, but it's

[00:19:11] all the third line, the fourth line, the second line that, that are bringing my production might be the best third line I've ever seen in the stand in the playoffs. I mean, ridiculous, but let's, since Bobby Hale. Well, yeah, that's true. The crash line was amazing. All right. Do a little shout out here. And then I want to talk about the, the big deal move that Tom Fitzgerald did for the New Jersey Devils.

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[00:20:34] Visit dkng.co slash audio. That's DraftKings sports book with code THPN. The crown is yours. Okay. So what do we know about this? What's his name? Juho Lamiko. From Finland. From Finland. And he's played in the NHL before, right? And Juho we trust. Yes. Apparently he was a fourth liner on Vancouver.

[00:21:03] And Christy Flannery. Cool. So he's going to be like a first liner for us? Right. Yeah. Third line center. Come on down. So Christy Flannery today, kind of in the third paragraph of her column, mentioned that Dowling's agent said he's probably not coming back. So I'm guessing this is kind of that Dowling role that hopefully doesn't get as much utilized as much as Dowling and Tierney did historically.

[00:21:31] So, no, he wasn't in the foreign agents. He played at the world championships for Finland, which another kind of side thing about this. And I was thinking about some other, thinking about stuff, is if Eric Hall is on the way out, we will not have any other Finnish guys. And they seem to like to hang out with each other. So this could also be a Lenny Hamaniho, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani, Hamani,

[00:22:01] and mentor slash buddy to hang out with. I guess they played together at the world championships, know each other. So that's really kind of it. It's a one way contract, which doesn't mean he's just in the NHL. It means that he's getting paid the same amount in the NHL and the AHL. So he so but but being that it's a one way contract, though, he does have to clear waivers if he was to be ever sent down, though. Yes. Yeah, maybe.

[00:22:31] I don't know, to be honest, it's a good way salary. That's fine. Yeah. Two ways. But yeah, like, I don't see why anyone would claim this, which brings me to my next question. Is this a smart use of eight hundred thousand dollars to sign a dude that none of us know about and already basically has penciled himself into our fourth center. Well, hold on. What's the minimum now? 775, I think.

[00:23:00] So it's basically minimum. So, yeah, I just you know, we were so thin on cap space like someone's got to get it. Like, we've got to get rid of somebody. I was all excited today when the Devils posted like a congratulations to Andre Pallad on being selected to the Olympics and then they deleted it. I was like, oh, did they delete it because they know he's getting traded? And no, it wasn't. It's because they said he was from Slovakia, not Checha.

[00:23:25] So we don't even know our, you know, I guess whatever brought a fucking word. I'm looking for him. Sorry. I'm like on no sleep. But anyway, they don't know who this guy who's been with the Devils for three years, what country is from. I mean, if this vote, if this is how we're going to start our off season with an eight hundred thousand dollar nobody from Finland and not knowing where Andre Pallad is from. Hold on.

[00:23:53] First of all, you can't blame the marketing team for waking up today and be like, oh, shit, Andre Pallad's on the team. We've got to put someone out there. It's not their fault. He's invisible. This guy? All right. He's from Slovakia, right? Sure. Press send. But then what does this mean for Cody Glass? Is he going to be, you know, he's just going to be our Curtis McDermott and just spend every game in the press box?

[00:24:20] I do not know why we would have traded for Cody Glass if it wasn't because he was an RFA and we controlled his rights and had the ability to resign him. I agree. I don't understand that move. The Dumoulin move, like I, like maybe I kind of get that, that, you know, they're going to have to get one. Yeah. Like, I mean, we needed like a warm body. I was about to get my shit and like go fucking stand outside Prudential Center and be like, hey, you need it. And that one actually worked out too, you know? Yeah.

[00:24:50] Forget about what we had to give up to get them and if we're not going to keep them and all that stuff. Like it worked out for what we did. Even though you might as a manager sit there and realistically say we're not winning the cup, like you still got to at least try, you know, to win as much as you can. Yeah. Then what happened? Steven Engel. What'd he say? It was all Germany until 1980. I just, I'm so worried that Tom Fitzgerald is going to screw this up. I mean, I really am.

[00:25:19] Maybe this dude, maybe this new dude is like that super deep scouting and he's just going to come in and just be great and fit right in. Maybe. I mean, they've seen him play before. We found Wafalski on the scrap heap in Finland. That's true. That's true. At 27, 28. This guy's 29. It's been the other problem that I have is that he's been in the NHL before. And got kind of kicked to the curb and then bounced around like the KHL and was in the Swiss league and all this shit. And there's another weird thing, I guess.

[00:25:48] He was still under contract in Switzerland, which may have been one of the reasons why it's a one way contract. But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't get the sequencing of this. It's like, I know Fitz, but who's not give a shit about what the fan base sentiment is and has things planned out. And I find I have a very difficult time giving him the benefit of the doubt right now.

[00:26:15] But the one thing he's been able to do is work pretty well in the off season when he has enough time. But yes, don't expect him to, don't expect him to do anything drastic during the season. Like whatever team, when games are going by, like he's worthless, but when nothing else is happening and he has the ability to have time, he seems to basically buckle in come October knowing this is our core. This is our team. He's not going to change it. I was thinking about watching Florida and Merchant.

[00:26:43] And I was like, you know, if we were ready to go into the playoffs, solid, healthy, like this is the type of move that I don't think he would ever have the balls to do. And it's like really paid off and maybe it doesn't pay off the exact same way on the devils, but you know, his type of game. And I just, I would never see that coming from him. And that's kind of a shame because Florida, the dude hated everybody in Florida, like a motherfucker. Like he wanted to go, he wanted to kill all of them. He's like, Oh, I'm the team now. Fine. That's cool.

[00:27:13] Well, but he also directed himself to Florida to get traded only to Florida. That's why it didn't really cost too much. Sure. But still though, Bobby's point, like will, can, is Tom Fitzgerald capable once the devils are there to make that kind of game changing move?

[00:27:30] Like he did do it with Timo. I mean, I, he felt good about that team. He brought Timo Meyer in. That was a huge, huge move for the devils, which we're yet to see if whether or not it paid off, but regardless, it was a big move. Look, I thought so highly of Tom Fitzgerald up until the last couple of seasons. And then these, especially last season, like, you know, I just, I can't, I can't put any more faith.

[00:27:56] And I'm like, now it's like, okay, show us Tom, show us that you can actually put together a team that can win in the playoffs. Yeah. Fool me once, you know? Yeah. Because for all intents and purposes, you look at the Eastern conference, you look at the metropolitan division, the devils, in my opinion, with just the core guys that we have right now, they're top one or two in that conference right now.

[00:28:24] Yeah. And that division. I mean, I think that when healthy, we've talked about it. I think they're better than Carolina, regardless of what happened in the playoffs. I think Washington's going to regress. I have no idea what's going on with the Rangers. You know, do we think that I think to me, honestly, like the only team that I can see really giving the debt. If Tom Fitzgerald does this right in the metropolitan division, watch out for Columbus. Because I think it could very well be a Columbus Blue Jacket, New Jersey devil race to first in the Metro next year. If Fitzgerald doesn't completely.

[00:28:53] Carolina will be there too. No, they won't. Yeah, they will. They won't. $30 million in cap space. They, Carolina will be there. Well, we'll see. We will see. I hope not, but we will see. Yeah. I mean, it, I know we only have a couple of weeks. I mean, except now that we have Juho on our team. That's true. Maybe we just, you know, that's all we need. Maybe our bottom six is now fixed because we have Juho. I do like your idea of maybe this is somebody to come in.

[00:29:23] And then with the idea that Hamenaho is coming in, that, you know, that kind of big brother thing. I like that because the idea of giving our younger guys a good, real hard look this offseason and in training camp. I want to see these guys on the team. So, I'm really hoping that this year we'll see not just the Russian kid. Maybe we'll see Hamenaho.

[00:29:46] One of the writers put out something and kind of what got me thinking about the mentor thing was, I forget if it was Daniel Amoya or Chauvincy or who wrote it up. But they suggested a trade of Palat for Tarasenko, one for one. Because Tarasenko didn't play very well in Detroit. And, you know, Palat is an Eisenman guy from Tampa Bay, which is kind of interesting. God knows what Tarasenko has left in the tank.

[00:30:14] But bringing Tarasenko in then to be kind of a mentor for Gritzuk as well. Because, you know, like we're bringing this kid over. You know, we're going to put him on this team. God knows what his English is like. So, I don't know. There's a lot of moving pieces. I just want something to happen. I mean, Tarasenko, to me, he's now a fourth liner. On the Devils team, he's a fourth liner. I don't know if you would move him up to the third. To me, that's – I don't know.

[00:30:43] But, I mean, he played well for Florida two years ago in the playoffs. You know, playing in that third-line spot, he did play well for Florida. Detroit's a fucking disaster no matter how you cut it. So, I mean, I think he still has something in the tank. I mean, I would – I really want to see a big move, though. I want to – if you're going to make some trades, I want to see – and I'm not just talking the Quinn Hughes thing. Like, you're talking the winger. Like, you know, Stephen Engel always talks about, you know, Tuck. We love Alex Tuck. Tuck, yes. Another guy that I've been just high on.

[00:31:13] I don't think they're ever going to move him. But Jordan Cairo. I would love to have Cairo on his team. His name popped up recently. Yeah? As a possibility. I have no idea why St. Louis would give him up. That seems crazy to me. I don't either. But, yeah, he would be unbelievable. So, we'll see what happens. So, Bob, you – I mean, you know, I'm resigned myself to the fact that we're going to get some kind of middle six guys.

[00:31:40] And, you know, no big name, no big splash. The core will be intact. Doug used to – we'll still be around. And maybe, like, Holla and Mercer are the guys. You know, during the exit interview that he did, the press conference that he did, he seemed genuinely pissed. And in the sense of, like, these guys, you know, we can't win with them. I mean, he didn't say these words. But if you read between the lines, it was this team, especially this bottom six. We can't win with them. And they need to be revamped.

[00:32:10] And guys that didn't produce need to go. So, and the fact that he even said it in that way kind of surprised me because Tom Fitzgerald is not usually that harsh. So, you know, maybe that's hopeful. Maybe that is hopeful that he will actually say, fuck it, we're going to change this thing and we're going to have healthy Hughes boys in and we're going to fucking get everything out of Timo this year and we're going to go for it.

[00:32:42] Bob, you have a devil's advocate? I do. I do have a set of three particular questions that I would love to play devil's advocate. I think we should play then. I think we should. I think it was a good success. I had a lot of fun. That got me fired up. Yeah, we got it. I was laughing my ass off when I listened to it back the next day. I haven't even listened to it yet. But you got a couple messages on like Blue Sky. Somebody who I guess is a new listener said that they loved it. So it's all right.

[00:33:12] We'll keep going. I saw one that was very funny and that kind of thing. So, yeah, we're going to do devil's advocate. We're going to do three questions. I will work scenarios, I guess, whatever. I'll decide on the fly which one of you are arguing which side as I see your faces when I go through this. All right. So, okay. In 1983. Chris. I can't wait. After a third.

[00:33:41] I figured Chris deserves to get in this. So I quickly pulled this together. I appreciate it. After a 13 to 4 route by the Edmonton Oilers, Wayne Gretzky went on to make his Mickey Mouse organization comment. He has since said that he felt that comment was blown out of proportion. Tim, you are going to argue why that comment was necessary and was correct.

[00:34:09] And Chris, you are going to argue why that was a very mean thing to say and should never, ever be done in sports. And go. Who goes first? Tim. Tim. Why was he right to say that? Of course it was necessary. We just got the shit kicked out of us 13 to 4. Like that shows that we did not belong in the same fucking league as one of the best teams in the league. That was the year that the Oilers started making their come up.

[00:34:37] I think they lost to the Islanders in the finals that year and then won the cup the next year. You want to win cups? You listen to the guy that wins cups. Yeah, it wasn't necessary. It was fucking embarrassing. I was five years old. Beat up my grandmother afterwards. Well, that's regardless of the fact that, you know, the Devils were. Regardless of the fact, Tim, that the Devils were extremely bad in that time. Two, these are professionals.

[00:35:06] These are guys that are going out there and they're trying their best. And for somebody to go and call them something hurtful, like a Mickey Mouse organization. These are human beings with hearts and feelings. And I just think that Wayne Gretzky needs to be a lot more just open-minded. And, you know, you just don't go saying things like Mickey Mouse organization. I don't even like saying it. It disgusts me to even say those words. And he should be ashamed.

[00:35:35] And the Devils and Devil fans should never forgive him for such a hurtful, harsh comment. No, it was not warranted. It was over the goddamn line. Mickey Mouse. Any rebuttal, Tim, or would you like to rest? Oh, my God. Professional ice hockey players. Professional ice hockey players. With feelings, Tim. Are doing their best. They have feelings. Yes.

[00:36:05] Do they need some cuddles? They need to be the big spoon later? Do they need to cry? You know, the rumor was out there that... Do they need to go watch Golden Girls repeats? After that game, Ken Danico was inconsolable. Because he actually thought Wayne Gretzky was his friend. And then to say something that hurt... He was inconsolable! I mean, this is ridiculous. I heard, like, you know, Carpenter was just tapping his head. He was going, Kenny, it's okay. He's like, why did he say that? And, you know, this took a while for these guys to get over that hump.

[00:36:35] And that was a big, big, I think, thing that really set this team back. I just think they didn't believe in themselves anymore. We won three cups after that. We made the playoffs a couple years later. And that we needed that game. 12 years later. We are based in Nashville right now. You and I are wearing fucking cowboy hats. We're line dancing. That's what happens to this team. If Wayne Gretzky doesn't call us in Mickey Mouse franchise. I don't know. I think I'm absolutely in the right on this one.

[00:37:04] I've made my ruling. The big men are very, very sad. Chris has been like the ultimate ball buster for like the 40 some odd years I've known him or whatever. And for him to break out the heart strings. He was 100% right for saying that. It's the only angle I had. It was pretty good. Pretty good. I couldn't keep that. I couldn't keep it together. When you're like, feelings, man. Because feelings.

[00:37:34] Because feelings. They're friends. You said they were friends. He's tapping on the ground. And, you know, it was absolutely blown out of proportion. Like, I mean, the fact that Devil fans were pissed about that. Of course they are. They were. That's what you do as fans. What was the score? 13 to 1? 13 to 4. 13 to 4. Jesus. Yeah. They deserve it. I mean, it's bulletin board material. You know, just now. You know, that's why that's a turn. Okay. I'm with you. All right. Next question.

[00:38:04] Number two. We were friends. Everybody knows that Wayne Gretzky is the highest scorer in the NHL. Is the hottest what? He was the highest scorer in the NHL. Right. There are a contingent of people who believe that pound for pound, Mario Lemieux was a better hockey player. There is an average scoring of 1.92 points per game for Gretzky in his career and 1.88

[00:38:33] points per game for Lemieux in his much shorter career. 1,487 games to 915. Gretzky scored goals at a 0.6% pace per game and Lemieux at a 0.75% pace per game. Chris, you are going to argue that Wayne Gretzky is in fact by far way better than Mario Lemieux.

[00:39:03] Tim, you are going to argue for Mario Lemieux being the better hockey player. If it all went down a different way. Chris, you may go first. Super Mario is a cool nickname, but it's not as cool as the great one. You don't even have to put Wayne or Gretzky in that nickname and everybody knows who you're talking about. Just the great one. So, you know, take that. Take the cups, right? You know, four cups, right? Or did he win three? I think he won three, right?

[00:39:32] But then this guy who by far, look, Mario Lemieux was an amazing goal scorer. Amazing hockey player. But Wayne Gretzky changed the game. An entire country sobbed and mourned for months because this one dude got traded to an American team. All right? And they got... The fact that... I don't even think Edmonton is still over it. All right? And this guy is just... Anywhere he goes, he went to L.A., brought them a...

[00:40:00] You know, not a cup, but he went to a cup final and, you know, brought the team there. We're going to kind of skip over his St. Louis journey because that was terrible. But even with the Rangers, he was very good here. And he was not a fraction of the player that he used to be. But in his prime, every single hockey... Young kid who watched hockey or even... They wanted to be Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky, he has all the records.

[00:40:27] And now they're starting to get a little bit broken with, you know, Ovechkins and everything like that. But Gretzky has more records, especially playoff records that are never going to be beat. He's got the cups. He has the records. He by far was a better player than Super Mario. Oh, who are you talking about? You can't just say Super. Nope, nope. Nobody knows what you're saying. Super Mario. Oh, yeah. Mario Lemieux. I get it. The great one. End of story. You're talking about Wayne Gretzky, right? The guy that was accepted...

[00:40:57] Dwayne Gretzky. Dwayne Gretzky. The guy that was accepted into the Hall of Fame. That's the guy you're defending? That's the guy I'm defending. Not the most talented player that has ever set foot on the ice. The guy that... Okay, tell you what. Have Wayne Gretzky go smoke a pack of butts, get chemotherapy, and come out and score five goals in a game. Because do you know who did that? Mario fucking Lemieux did that. Do you know what Mario Lemieux also did? He rescued the Pittsburgh Penguins franchise from moving out of Pittsburgh.

[00:41:24] Wayne Gretzky just got traded to LA because his owner in Edmonton was a fucking crook and a gambler. Mario Lemieux saved hockey in the city of Pittsburgh. Mario Lemieux is a legend. He's the greatest hockey player who's ever set foot on the ice. The grace that he could skate through the neutral zone, he would absolutely fucking cook people and make them look stupid. And you know what he also did? He made turtlenecks cool for about five years. Could argue that. Case closed.

[00:41:51] So far I've had two subjects that I don't agree with that I've had to argue with. I know. Because I so much liked Mario Lemieux so much better than Wayne Gretzky. But... No, there was a plan. Tim, you won that argument. Like, I got nothing else to say. I can't defend Gretzky that much when it comes to who is a better player. I honestly believe... I don't know if you do. I mean, I know you're arguing the point. But I honestly believe that Mario Lemieux, in my lifetime, was the best hockey player I've ever seen. Mario Lemieux was...

[00:42:20] Claude Lemieux is better than Mario Lemieux. That's a bit of a stretch. Mario was probably the most talented player of his generation. But it's... Every generation, it's so hard to compare. But if you look at what both of them did relative to their peers, they're both somewhat peerless. And you look at what you said, though. Like, some of the shit that Gretzky did, like, outrageous. But he was also a point grubber. He would go to the bench and be like, who got the second assist on that?

[00:42:49] Gretzky would be like, yeah, I did. Or the refs would just give him a point because they'd be like, ah, Gretzky was on the ice. He probably got the other assist. And Mario was fucking big. And he was tough. And he was just a gritty-ass player. Mario Lemieux had everything you'd want out of a hockey player. You know? I mean, everything. The grit. The size. The speed. And he put it all together. One cup. You're 100% right. And the one thing that I will... Like, him floating through the neutral zone. Like, it was just so...

[00:43:15] Just the grace that he skated with and handled the puck with is unparalleled. Do you guys remember a game probably back in the... Probably in the mid to late 90s. Probably late 90s. And we were playing... Devils were playing Pittsburgh. And it was a two on O. It was Lemieux and Jager. Yes. And Jager was kind of coming in a little bit behind Lemieux. And Lemieux made the fake. And Brodeur made the save. Rebound went right to Jager's stick. And Brodeur made that save.

[00:43:45] I still... Like, when I think about Brodeur, that one save... You just stopped the two best players in the fucking league on a two on O. I mean, the guy was... So many amazing saves that Brodeur's made. That one is literally painted in my memory. Yep. Like, it was that insane, dude. Yeah. Because you're like, holy shit, it's Lemieux and Jager. I mean, honestly, Brodeur was probably thinking that to himself, too. It's like, oh, fuck. Like... Just shit himself, close his eyes, through his leg. God damn it, it has to be these two. Yeah. I mean, they're ridiculous.

[00:44:14] But I love Lemieux. You're my sister-in-law on a Sprite. I was never... I hated Gretzky. Like, when I was... Really? You know, in the hockey. I didn't like him. I didn't like him. I just... When I was a kid, like, I read Gretzky's autobiography maybe, like, 15 times. I mean, he seems like a really nice dude, you know, now. He's out of it. Like, I like his stories. He just seems like a nice guy. He seems like a personable dude. I mean, he's probably not going to like question three, then. Before we get there, I will just say that...

[00:44:44] Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and award Tim the victory on that one, because it's no secret to me as well. I believe pound for pound. Pound for pound. Pound for pound. You put these two together and extend Mario's career to something healthy like Gretzky, and it's a lot closer of a conversation. And when you put him in that big frame and everything he did, I think Lemieux was the better hockey player. He did smoke cigarettes, by the way. Like, in between periods. Yeah. Like, wrecking butts. Yeah. And fucking had chemotherapy and came back. I mean, this guy had cancer. It's the same thing. His first day back. I think that... Cancer!

[00:45:14] That stretch that he had after he came back, where he had something... I don't know. He had like 70, 80 points in like 25 games or something outrageous like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Gretzky had 200 something points. 215 points, I think, in one season, which is fucking outrageous. But... 50 points in 50 games. If you watch some of the highlights... 50 goals in 50 games. Yeah. Like... If you watch some of the highlights of like the goaltending that played in his area, you're like, what the fuck are these guys doing? I know. I know. Couch cushions strapped to their legs. Like...

[00:45:43] Like, I think I might have a harder shot than Gretzky did at that point. Yeah. Yeah. You might have. All right. What's up, Jason? What's happening? All right. Give us the last... The rubber... The rubber mask. Is this another Gretzky question? Trying to figure out... I think it is. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to get the best out of Chris. Which way he's going on this. Jesus Christ. I want a little more animation from Chris, I gotta tell you. Okay. So, I'll bring this into... I'll make it Devils. So, um... You're at a Devils game. No. You're... The Devils are in the finals.

[00:46:13] You're at a finals game. Stanley Cup is on the line. So, therefore, you got Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier part of the booth, you know, doing the calls in between the games. You have an option to go up and punch one of them in the face. Do you punch Mark Messier or do you punch Wayne Gretzky? Chris, you will argue why it is better to punch Mark Messier. Yes! God damn it. This isn't fair.

[00:46:41] Because he's Mark fucking Messier. I mean, is there not a more punchable face in professional sports than Tony likes to say he looks like Sam the Eagle from the Muppets? Mark Messier is a fucking jerk off. All right? First of all, the dude goes and takes, you know, the whole Edmonton Oilers team and brings it with them to New York just for the big bucks. Pre-salary cap. These guys, you know, just... We're going to pay everybody to bring a Stanley Cup here.

[00:47:09] You bring in Mark Messier, who... Unbelievable hockey player. But you say... This dude has more hype on him for fucking saying, uh... I guarantee... The guarantee. Everybody loves to talk about the guarantee. All he said was, I guarantee we'll win tonight. Like, that's all that... Like, it was not a... I'm making a declaration that the New York Rangers... Or he said something like, uh... I think when they were asked about it, it was like, yeah, I guarantee it. Like, it was like a...

[00:47:37] In a flippant moment that the media has made immortal because the motherfucker got his three goals. One was an empty netter and forced a game seven. I'm sorry. Mark Messier is a biggest fucking chump. Now, it has nothing to do with him as a hockey player. This has everything to do with him personally. Personally, I can't stand the man. And I would... If he was in the bench... In the booth... If he was at an airport... If I ever saw him, I would go up and punch him in the face.

[00:48:05] Punch him square in his stupid, bald little face. And I would just go, yeah, Mark... Devil fan. That's all I'd say. Devil fan. No devil fan should have respect for Mark Messier at all. No devil fan should like Mark Messier at all. And I'll actually go on record and say every devil fan should take the chance, if they ever have it, to punch him in the face. So, yeah. Mark Messier. I have no reason to punch Wayne Gretzky. Mickey Mouse organization. Okay. He hurt the guy's feelings. He said some mean things about him.

[00:48:34] But that doesn't deserve a punch in the face. I mean, a stern talking to. Like, maybe, you know, have him sit down and explain to him how he made everybody feel. And then maybe to get a heartfelt apology from him. Violence is never the way. Unless it's Mark Messier. Are you going to let him steal all my arguments here? Like, what's happening? It's only Mark Messier. That is the only person that I will condone violence for. Okay. If you have the choice between the two, okay? I am punching Wayne Gretzky in the face.

[00:49:04] Mark Messier would fucking break me in half and throw me into the snack bar. Wait. Bobby didn't say they could punch us back. Hey, I don't know what's going to happen when you punch one of these guys, dude. Punch them. What? You think you cannot? Like Jay Snow said, Messier's ripped for an old fuck. I'm not messing with Mark Messier. Are you kidding me? Wayne Gretzky's a drunk little man. Like, I could beat the fuck out of that guy. Messier would probably kick my ass after I kicked Gretzky's ass if they were spending next to each other. So, beat the shit out of Gretzky. Fuck him. Fuck him for whatever happened, you know, and did stuff.

[00:49:34] You know what? Do you know why? Because he called us a Mickey Mouse franchise. Because we have feelings. And he made me very sad. And Ken Danico cried for two years after that. He cried in his bed. Bobby Carpenter had to pat him on top of the head and say, it's going to be okay, Ken. It's going to be okay. I don't know. That's why. That's why.

[00:49:59] Dwayne Gretzky is a big meanie pants for calling us a Mickey Mouse franchise. It's hard to argue that. Can we punch them both? Yeah. Can we just tell them both to shut the fuck up? Tell Gretzky to just go slug another bottle of wine, you fucking drunk. Yeah, he is. He's pretty much always drunk. Yeah. And I don't. I would do too if I was like a rich, old, awesome hockey player. Yeah. And I don't hate Mark Messier as an analyst at all.

[00:50:27] Scottsdale in a golf cart just fucking picking fights with people. I'm Dwayne Gretzky. Woo! So who would you punch, Bob? Mark Messier, dude. Yeah. I'll punch and run, Tim. I don't care if he's going to break me. There wasn't a fair argument. You're like Messier's size. I'm like Gretzky's size. You did really well. And you came back into the emotional thing that gave Chris his lift in the first one. So I don't know whether he'll award you in a point for that or just call you out for plagiarism.

[00:50:58] It's called the argument back on it. I got a little bit of the juggle here. And it seems to me that Chris made the ultimate argument, which I have made on this show probably way too many times, which is that stupid guarantee that happened to fall his freaking way. I'm so tired of hearing about it. And I also don't like his face. Chris, you win for punching the guy who's ugly as hell. But what about our feelings? Feelings be damned. It is a damn good argument, though, Tim. You can always go back to the hurtful feelings. I did enjoy it. I had that in my back pocket.

[00:51:28] You started to talk about it. I was like, fuck, shut up. I know. I got off it quick when you said it. But whatchamacallit, you should definitely get the questions for next time we do this, though, Tim. Me? All right. Yes. So that was a lot of fun. That was a ton of fun. But, you know, the only... I'll go back. Have you guys enjoyed the announcing at this Stanley Cup final? I don't know why I always go back to it. I just can't stand those guys.

[00:51:58] I do not understand why ESPN didn't use Bob Wischus anymore. Yeah. Why is Kenny Albert the fucking play-by-play guy? I like Kenny Albert. I fucking hate him with Chuck. I like Boucher between the benches. I do, too. It's just old Chuck. And I do like the panels between... The Turner panel between periods over ESPN. Like Jay Snow just said.

[00:52:25] Like, listening to Messi talk and, like, just his clear fucking hatred of P.K. Subban and that ridiculous VR thing that they did with P.K. Subban. I was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Yeah, P.K.'s doing his best. He's being put into a really rough situation. Yeah, I know. You know, I think he's... He just keeps sending me checks. He watches the TNT broadcast and he's just like, I could have so much of a better vibe on this thing than I am with just Mark and Steve Levy.

[00:52:52] And do you know what blows my mind every time about the TNT panel? Is as much of a clown as Biz is. When he gets, like, in serious mode breaking down a play, like, he's really fucking good at breaking down a play. It's like, I had the hardest time, like, reconciling in my head. I'm like, this guy that's talking about, like, sandpaper finishes and stuff. And he's the one, like, that just broke that down expertly. And that's why you always see, like, the guys that are, like, good coaches and analysts and stuff tend to be grinders.

[00:53:20] Because they're the ones that had to know the structures and the plays and how everything works much more so than, like, the really good players. The tough guys are the best analysts. I mean, yeah, by far. And they're, like, exactly, the smartest dudes. You know, fucking Stu Grimson on NHL Network. Like, you're just watching Stu his whole career. You just think he's some big dummy that goes out there and throws his fists every once in a while. The dude's brilliant, you know? And, yeah, I'm with you, man.

[00:53:50] You get a lot of time to watch the game, too. You know? You get to soak it all in. That's a great point, Bobby. Did you see that one meme, though? It's, like, the panel. It's got Gretzky and Messier and what's the name that you just said? And it was, like, you know, leading scorer of all time, four cups of the net. And then it goes to him and he's, like, seven goals. Seven goals. Yeah. It was because, yeah, Jager was there. That's right. Yeah, it was Jager, second all-time points. Gretzky, first all-time points.

[00:54:17] Anson Carter, like, world championships, gold medals, biz, seven goals. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with Jason. Like, people, he gets so much shit. Like, he's great for the game. Like, he really is. He makes it fun. You know? And I feel like that's why people, like, that's why I feel like the Turner panel. He says some dumb shit sometimes. And, you know, but, like, he has a show to do. And that's what he is. And, like, he's a showman. No, the TNT panel is much more palpable than the ESPN one.

[00:54:46] I despise ESPN. But I cannot stand Kenny Albert. And the fact that I actually feel a little bad for Ranger fans that they have to listen to him for the next 20 years do their play-by-play. I just – I don't like him. I can't stand his stupid voice. And I hate when he does our football games. I hate when I put biking games on. And it's, ah, Kenny Albert here from Minneapolis. Shut up. He's such a good impression of him. It's so annoying. And J. Snow brought up Anson Carter.

[00:55:15] Do you know – do you follow Heat Daddy on Twitter and J. Squish? They fucking rip into Anson Carter. Like, who fucking gave him – did he give himself the name Ace? They're like, hey, Ace. Ace, it's Ace here. Hey, Bones, it's Ace. Ace, it's Bones. Hey, hey, it's Ace. Hey, it's Ace here. It's fucking – Nobody should ever give themselves their own nickname. But I do – I wanted to touch on Luke Hughes' contract, but we're not going to do that tonight. We're going to save that for the next show.

[00:55:42] So just kind of – what do you guys think? I mean, is this going to be an eight-year deal? Is it going to be a bridge deal? Like, what do you think is better? We'll go over that on the next show. So, you know, hang a little teaser out there. Teaser time. Yeah. So we're going to wrap this thing up, guys. Thanks again for hanging out with us. Always fun. Chilling with you all. Don't forget, on the YouTube channel, hit the subscription button, like us, whatever, you know, wherever you're listening or watching.

[00:56:12] And we're the Uncle Puckers. Stuff at the bottom, ignore. Stuff at the bottom. Yeah, thanks to THPN. I mean, without them, really, this show is not possible. Yep. For Tim and Bob, I'm Chris. We're the Uncle Puckers. And we'll see you when we see you. Have a good fucking night. You know who's not the goat? You know who's not the goat? Who's not the goat? Fellow cat is not the goat.

[00:56:38] So, Bobby, I think have a good fucking night should be the way you sign off now. Kind of like that. Even if it's in the afternoon? No, go to bye-byes in the afternoon. Bye-byes. Bye-bye. It's over, Johnny. It's over. Hey, I'm John Ashton.

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