Marner VS Bennett

[00:00:05] Hey everyone, Mr. Devil here, Kenny Danico, three-time Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils, and you're listening to The Uncle Puckers, New Jersey Devils Podcast. Let's go Devils! Hello everybody, how's everybody this fine Tuesday afternoon, evening? What's up? What's up? Good, things are good. Great, great. We are The Uncle Puckers, I'm Chris with Tim and Tony, Bobby will be joining us shortly.

[00:00:35] We have a fun show tonight, talk a little Devils. We're going to go over our finals picks, see how we did in the second round, and we have our snake draft of the week this week. And Tony, do you have a Devil you know? Yeah, I have one. And we have a Devil you know. So we have a fully packed show, so we'll get rolling.

[00:00:58] But since Bobby's not here, we're going to actually start on a subject matter that we don't normally talk about because Bobby's not into it, and that is the National Football League. So I ask you guys, let me ask the audience.

[00:01:15] You know, both of you guys listening, would you be at all interested, and let us know in social or email us at unclepuckers at gmail.com, for the three of us to do a weekly football show. We're all big football fans except Bob. We definitely do love the NFL and would like to talk about it. If you would like to hear our perspective on football, let us know, and we are probably, even if you say don't do it, we're probably going to do it anyway.

[00:01:44] We're going to do it anyway, so shut the fuck up. We don't care. And we're going to be the Uncle Punters. So then we have the Uncle Puckers, the Uncle Punters, and then Tony and Bobby next summer are going to do a baseball show called the Uncle Bunters. And I have to say really fast, Chris, and I was talking to you about this. I love seeing Soto, man, right now just facing the ground like, you know. The fan fiction that Michael K is coming up with is ridiculous.

[00:02:14] It's just the whole Soto, like he's probably going to be fine. Something may be wrong with him, but like this is a wild overreaction from Mets fans of like this guy. And of course it's led by Frank the Tank, who's like, I can't believe that guy isn't had a fucking stroke yet. But he's like Soto's career Mets batting average 0.5 with 10,000. Chris made a great point about this today. Chris, what did you say? I said, yeah, a lot can change when you're not hitting in front of Aaron Judge every night.

[00:02:44] I mean, there's a big difference when you're batting in front of him as opposed to being just the best guy in the Mets lineup. And, you know, a lot of those numbers came from that. But, you know, this is not the baseball show. This is the hockey slash football show today. I do want to talk some football real quick. A lot has gone on. They're voting tomorrow. The owners are meeting in St. Paul. They're voting tomorrow on getting rid of the tush push.

[00:03:11] And they're also voting on the new playoff seating of what they want to do. But I'm curious, what do you guys think first off of this tush push? Should they get rid of it? Should they not? If so, why? Tone? Get rid of it. Get rid of it. Why? I just don't like it. Just don't like it. But is there a reason we don't like it? I mean, yeah, I just I think it's kind of like you were saying earlier. It's like a rugby. It is rugby, yeah. I was not a fan of it. It's actually what football originally was.

[00:03:40] It was a lot of that shit. Like, if you're so mad at it and it's so effective, fucking learn to do it yourself. Like, that's, you know, this, you know, to make a comparison to hockey, it's like the trapezoid for Brudeau.

[00:03:56] It's like why, you know, like the games in the sport evolves, you know, why be stuck, you know, trying to do something the old way or ban something before, you know, it's just this whole attitude of I'm scared of it because it's new. It's like, well, learn how to do it. Well, here's the thing, you know, people are saying that the Eagles are this is just a knock on them doing kind of like when you're talking about the trapezoid. Like Brudeau played the puck better than everybody.

[00:04:26] Everybody complained about it, saying we can't even dump the puck in anymore. This guy's a third defenseman back there. He's killing us. And now other goaltenders are looking at this and saying, OK, I have to get better at doing this. And they were. So that's why the rule was changed. This is different in the simple fact that this rule of being able to push and pull originally was not in the rule book. You could not push. This is a it's blocking. You block. You don't push. You don't pull.

[00:04:52] You know, back when we were kids, like you couldn't get behind a running back and push him to get him further along. Then they changed the rules because they had said, I don't know if it was like 20 something years ago or whatever. They said that when they got like up close, it was it's just too hard to call because it's such a scrum in the middle. So it's like hard to say, OK, I'm going to give you a penalty for pushing a penalty for pulling when it's hard to tell. So they just kind of went away with it where the Eagles then found this loophole saying, well, we're allowed to push. Let's push.

[00:05:20] My thing is, I just feel like it's I don't give a shit that the Eagles do it, that the Eagles do it good and other teams can't stop it. That's fine. I don't that's not why I want to see it gone. I want to see it gone because this is not rugby. This is not just getting behind guys and pushing them forward and giant piles being pushed forward. To me, that's not football. I want to see guys block. It's like a bad movie. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I just I that's the only reason if they keep it.

[00:05:49] I don't give a shit. I will say this, though. Would you would you be OK with it? Sorry. No, go ahead. Finish. Sorry. I was just going to say the problem is. Would you would you have to depend on it? You're a dick. But like it's it's situational, you know, like how many times do they do it? You know, fourth down short yardages like I mean, would you like would you be OK if it was if it was just limited to, say, you know,

[00:06:18] fourth downs or short yardages or just. I'll say this. I don't think the Eagles win the Super Bowl last year if that play was banned. I honestly don't think they win the Super Bowl. I don't know. Like, it's hard to say. When you're that good at it and, you know, you need half a foot, you need two feet, you know, a yard, whatever they get for. They get, you know, four or five out of this sometimes like it's a crazy play.

[00:06:45] It's not just a regular quarterback sneak where you're diving forward for, you know, a yard and a half. This is, you know, guys are just heads down. It's rugby. I mean, that's you watch fucking rugby. That's the fucking tush push. So I do think that they have gotten very dependent on it. This is why it's such a big deal for them because they know full well nobody can stop it.

[00:07:06] Hey, look, when I was a kid and I got Sega Genesis and I got Joe Montana talking football, sport talk football, the halfback pass scored a touchdown every single time I did it. Every time. Pitch out to the halfback, chuck it downfield, scored a touchdown. I never did any other play. I won 20 Super Bowls in a row just by the halfback pass, you know. So, I mean, you get dependent on it and it gets taken away. You're kind of screwed. I just think that it go back to the way it was.

[00:07:34] Go back to just not allowing pushing and pulling. That's how I feel. I do think they're going to get rid of it. Yeah, I mean, probably. I just can't believe I just don't understand why. Why only one team has figured out how to be this successful at this. I don't think there's any particular, like, personnel advantage that they have. Like, I could see the Ravens being able to pull this off. Like, I don't know. Oh, I would never do this if I was the Ravens. Are you kidding me?

[00:08:00] Lamar Jackson's little bird bone neck would be snapped in half if you try and do it with. I mean, Josh Allen, they can't even do it that well. And he's bigger than Jalen Hurts. It is a situation. It is a, in my opinion, I do think with the Eagles, it's definitely a, it's definitely the players they have. I mean, I think it's a personnel thing. How dare you talk about Lamar Jackson like that? How dare you, man? I think they should get rid of their, I think there should be no more helmets. We could just go Craig McTavish on this shit.

[00:08:29] Well, did you see that flag football and NFL players were approved for the Olympics? Which I think is awesome. I think it's going to be so much fun to watch. I love watching the, like, I hated, I hate the Pro Bowl. I don't like all-star games. But when the NFL started doing the Pro Bowl weekend where it's just mostly games and fun shit that they do, it's a lot more, like, I enjoy watching it. Like, you see guys in their- When we were kids, the Pro Bowl was better, right? I mean, it was actually like, I don't know. It was an actual football game. Yeah, it was an actual game, not like jokes and like actors and shit going on.

[00:09:00] But they're not going to do that anymore because guys, after just playing a 17-week season or 18-week series, 17 games, and just they don't want to go out there and play a real football game, you know, where guys are getting fucking clobbered. So I kind of like that they changed it up to the flag football, to doing all these different events and stuff. It's kind of cool and I enjoy it. It's kind of like what the NHL does with the skill competition and stuff. It's more exciting than the game. But I think- The NHL All-Star game's gone now, I think, don't you? No.

[00:09:29] This year, it's just they're doing the Olympics. I think you're going to get rid of it altogether if I start doing it like they just did it last year. Because I think the All-Star game is awful now. I mean, it is absolutely ridiculous. So you think they would go to doing like a four or five nation thing? I've actually heard they've already been talking about it. Maybe I'm wrong, but- I would like that.

[00:09:51] I think it was because the Olympics would be over four years and I think the four nations or some iteration of that World Cup or whatever was going to be every two. So there is, I think, a third year in there. Right. So maybe they can do an All-Star game. Who do you- So who do you think- Do you know what would be an awesome fucking show? Hey, Bob. Bye, Bob. Bye, Bob. He's like, oh, these guys are still talking about football now.

[00:10:18] You know how they do like quarterback or- Receiver. Receiver. Yeah. I'm totally blanking on the first version of that. Hard knocks. Oh, right. I would love to see a flag football training camp type of show for the NFL for tryouts for the Olympics. That would be fucking awesome. That would be cool. That would definitely be cool. Like a training camp tryout for the Olympics for five football.

[00:10:48] You know who brought this- You know who brought the rule up to the committee to have this tush-push ban? You know what team did that? It was the Packers. The Packers, right? Yeah. The softest team in the NFL. Hi, Bob. Hey, Bob. You still can't hear us? Hmm. Interesting. Okay. And he's back out.

[00:11:12] So the other rule that they're going to talk about is the new reseeding of the playoffs. I don't know. So in other words, now if you win your division, you get your home playoff game. And then you have your three wild cards. First seed gets the first round by and home field throughout. The Detroit Lions tried to put the new rule through that it just goes by seeding.

[00:11:40] So in other words, like Vikings won 14 games last year. Even though they were second in their division, they had to go on the road for the playoffs. They were first wild card. This way, they would get a home playoff game. And the teams, like if you were a 9-7. One to eight, right? Yeah. If you're a 9-7 playoff, you know, NFC South winner, you're not getting a home playoff game. So and then they want to reseed after each round. My thing, I do not want them to change.

[00:12:09] Even though this would have been super beneficial for my Vikings last year. We would have had a home playoff game. We would have been third in the conference. And okay, that's great. But my problem is, though, I just don't like that. You have to play for a reason. You have to win your division. That's how you get into the playoffs. You want to reseed after the first round? I'm fine with that. Does it get rid of the bye? It would not get rid of the bye for the first seed. Okay.

[00:12:38] So I just think keep it the way it is. I'm okay with, like I said, reseeding in the second round. I'm fine with that. I don't have a problem with that. But for the original wildcard weekend, it has to stay the same. Because it's going to screw too many people. What do you think, Tony? I like it the way it is. I don't think it should change, man. You know. I could see, like you said, the second round, maybe. I still, you know, but I don't want to say. I'd like to see it stay the way it is. I think, like you said, you have to have something to play for. There has to be, like, that carrot, right?

[00:13:08] Yeah. And that's your division. I'd have to see how it actually and how frequently and how much it would actually be different. Well, they said, so the NFC last year, if they did it, the Lions would have had the number one seed in the bye. The Eagles would have stayed at number two. Minnesota would have been at number three. And I believe the Commanders would have been number four. And then you would have had the Rams, who won their division. They would have been on the road.

[00:13:38] You would have had the Bucs, who won their division. They would have been on the road. So that's kind of how it would have played out this year. The Raiders are selling hot dogs. Bobby, what's up, buddy? Can you hear us now? I can. Can you hear me? You sound wonderful. Oh, that's good. I came too early, though. You're still talking football. I have one quick question, and then we're going to switch it over to hockey. Okay? And we'll go around everybody.

[00:14:04] There's always a team in the football year, and we'll talk more throughout the summer about this, that pop up and surprises everybody. It goes on a little bit of a run. Maybe makes the playoffs. Maybe they're just playing for everything right up until the last week of the season. You know, last year it was the Washington Commanders. Who is it going to be this year? We'll go around Tim, Tone, Bob, and me. Who's the team? And we'll do it again down, you know, in the summer and closer to the season.

[00:14:31] But right now, who's the team that's going to pop up and surprise everybody? Like a team that was really bad that's going to be? Could be. Just somebody that maybe, you know, yeah, like Washington, that nobody really has any expectations for. I have no idea. Tone, is that your pick? I don't know. I need to look at it. I haven't thought about it. I'll go with the Raiders. Fuck it. Why not? Yay, Tone, go Raiders.

[00:15:00] I'm not saying last week, but I'm saying maybe a hell of a season. And, you know, I mean, I don't know. I think they've done so many upgrades. I'm excited. It's nice to be excited again. Hopefully, you know, we've got New England we're opening up against. Hopefully I'm excited in week two. So, but yeah, I think that I think the Raiders, I think their quarterback upgrade is definitely there. I'm excited about the running back now. Brock is like watching him play last year, even though the season sucked.

[00:15:29] It was like the one bright spot that every game he was entertaining to watch. Crosby, you know, hopefully he's healthy again. So, I mean, I'm excited. I think the Raiders, I even, you know, the coaching move was, I thought was really smart, actually. You know, bringing, bringing Carroll in there because I think he's exactly the kind of coach they needed with this team. So, yeah, I'm excited. I think San Diego is going to be tough. I did mention them, I think, last week. I think they're going to be a tough team, but they made the playoffs this year. So, yeah, your whole division is going to be tough.

[00:16:00] But that's who I'm going with. I'm going with the Raiders. The Raiders and a close second is actually New England. I'm really interested in your week one matchup because I think New England is going to be a lot better, too. They spent a shitload of money in free agency. Drake may look like he can really play quarterback. So now he actually has some weapons. So I'm curious about that. Bob, you want to throw anything in before we talk about? Well, I'll just dig into my vast football knowledge. How's your boy Soto doing there, Bobby? Shut up.

[00:16:28] I'll pick a team that I'm pretty sure did bad last year. Only because of my connections to the city, I'll go with the Denver Broncos. Nice. Bobby's an Eagle fan, man. I saw him in Cleveland. Broncos are a good pick. I think they're going to be good, too. Bobby, are you an Eagle fan now, kind of? Yeah, that's my kind of local – yeah, that's my one concession move in here. You can't touch baseball and hockey because those are my actual loves. I've always been a fly-by-night football guy. I've always just liked watching general football. I was a Jets fan, then I was a Niner fan, then went to school in Providence. I was a Patriots fan.

[00:16:58] People wanted to kill me for being a Jets and a Patriots fan. I just don't care. I just watch the fun stuff. Okay. I kind of got sucked in, but I don't love it. I don't know how you don't love football. No. Oh, no, no. I mean the Eagles. Oh, okay. Yeah. None of us like the football. It's hard because of my disdain for the city. It really makes it hard. Like I got the two shows from Metallica coming up this weekend, and then my buddy's birthday the next weekend.

[00:17:26] I'm like, I got to go to Philly three times in two weeks, and it's just irking me. I don't like that. You're like pretty stressed about it? Yeah, I just don't like it. And getting in and out is just horrible. Rough, man. Well, don't think about the $785 million bum of an outfitter that the Mets signed. All right. We're going to jump in the hot bottle. You got nothing? How'd that series go? He's going to be all right. He was never worth that to begin with. No.

[00:17:55] Nobody's worth it. No. He doesn't fly with the team. He has his own private plan. Here's Aaron Judge. You got to come in below Aaron Judge. That was the bottom line. I don't know where $750 million came for this guy. So, I'll start with him. Yeah, no kidding. You guys saw what the Yankee fans did to him, though, right? When they came out in the field, they all turned their backs. What did they chant? They all turned their backs on him. Because they were like in love with him last year. So, I think it's kind of stupid, personally. It is.

[00:18:25] It's just silly and petty. But seeing him now, how he's doing this year, you're kind of glad as a Yankee fan that he's over. He's not. Doing terribly. It's only May, dude. Yeah. It's only May. You better laugh at what you say in baseball. Francisco Lindor was hitting like zero the last two years. Yeah. We're rolling into September and he has these horrible numbers. We can shit on him. But, you know, it's only May. I'll find the number to shit on him somehow. Don't worry. Yeah. You like shitting on things. Fuck you.

[00:18:55] We are going to talk a little hot. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. Why did I sign on to here? All right. Oh, my headphones aren't working. We did. What? Are you saying something? I can't hear you. No. No. All right. So we talked football. We're going to talk some hockey. But first, the NBA 82 game grind is done. I know how excited you guys are for the Eastern and Western Conference Finals. And now the real fun begins. The NBA playoffs are here and it's time for all the high stakes drama, clutch moments,

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[00:20:22] Please visit dkng.co slash audio. DraftKings Sportsbook with code THPN. The crown is yours. Okay. So, Eastern and Western Conference Finals are set, boys. Yeah. You guys want to talk a little bit about that Game 7, Florida and Toronto?

[00:20:50] Anybody have any insight they would like to share about that game? Which I just thought, while I was watching it, the only thing I kept on thinking is, God damn, I wish the Devils were the Florida Panthers. Yeah. Like, that team. I honestly think we need to do an entire show on just talking about how fucking great that team is. Yeah. That stupid Justin Bieber's hat was. I didn't see Justin Bieber's hat.

[00:21:17] Oh, he was sitting right behind the, was right behind the bench, right? Like, talk about not knowing shit about hockey. Like, you'd think Justin Bieber would know that, like, the worst seat in the house is the one right behind the bench. Yeah. Bob and I have a story about that. You also looked like, have you ever seen that video of Hitler at the Olympics when he's all tweaked out? No. There's like an old grainy black one. Yeah, you don't, you don't have my comp in your bedside. No, no, no. Right next to my MAGA hat.

[00:21:46] There's a, there's like a grainy video that pops up, you know. A free plane. You know, where, where it's Hitler. He's like rocking, like at the Olympics. He's all fucking tweaked out because he was like a massive, like amphetamine head or something like that. That would be stressful. There's like a video of Bieber doing the same thing, like rocking like this, looking like Ellen DeGeneres. And it's just like, man, what is wrong with this fucking guy? So. He did it. Is that who he, is that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Florida just chokes the life out of people. They do.

[00:22:16] They do. Like, you know, they were, they're up to nothing. But like, it's just that, that same thing that we've talked about over and over again, that Paul Maurice clip was just like, they pound the shit out of teams. They choke them out. They roll four lines. Like their stars aren't really producing. You know, like they have what? Eight, nine guys that have like nine, 10 points each. Like that's fucking depth scoring fits. Like it's. I was going to.

[00:22:42] I was going to send them the numbers of their fourth line, the Marshawn line and, and send it to you guys. And just all their numbers from the playoffs. That's. Yeah. That's scoring Tom. They're better than they were. By the way, Lundell was drafted a few picks after Holtz. Wow. That's good. Holtz is doing great. I think this team's better than they were last year. And, and I mean, there's kind of a piece of me that does kind of want to see a rematch. You know, I do.

[00:23:11] But there's that piece of me that kind of wants to see Dallas. So, but anything. Well, we talked about that, right? It's big. I mean, I have the Rangers. It's the same four. So it's three out of the four. Yeah. Back in it. And it's hard. Like, I'll just say it right now. Cause I know we're going to get into it. I can't root for Carolina any, which way. Anyway, I don't, I don't think they should be there. They don't deserve to be there. I think they should have been a tougher task. Like, or Washington should have played them harder. So I'm going to go for Florida here. No doubt. The Oilers.

[00:23:39] I only bet them against them once in the first round. I think it's stupid. Again, now they got that mystique again. Now I feel like for some reason they can get through. And I'm hoping the only reason they can't is just Dallas, but I can definitely see a rematch here. Um, and I'd like to say this time Edmonton comes on top, but I, I can't bet against Florida. So I don't know. Well, in the last series, um, you, I mean, uh, Bobby, you took the Panthers in six. So you get one point.

[00:24:08] Tim and Tony both took the Panthers in seven. So they're getting two points on that. I took the Leafs in seven. I got Carolina, Washington. We all took the caps. Uh, Tim took them in six. That's one point. Bob took them in seven. That's one point. Myself and Tony took it in five. That's two points. Wait, why are we getting points if we all took Washington? Because you get one point. If you get the series, right.

[00:24:35] The winner and two points, if you get it in, but if you get them in the games, so Tony and I got caps in five, but they didn't win in five. They lost the series. Oh my God. What the fuck am I doing? We all took the caps and they all lost. Holy shit. So it's zero points. Everyone in the room is now dumber for having listened to you. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. That was good. Bobby caught that. I was like, I'll take the points, but I don't. Does anyone else want to do this stuff?

[00:25:04] Bobby had that face like Soto because that third strike called. We need our stenographer. Can you read that back? All right. All right. So when we go to Vegas, Edmonton, Tim took Vegas in five. No points. Bobby took Edmonton in five. What'd that series go? Seven? Five. It went five. Okay. So Bob got two points. Bob's kicking ass. Tony took Edmonton in seven. That's one point. I took the Knights in seven. That's zero. So I've gotten zero points in this second round so far. And wait, there's more.

[00:25:35] Winnipeg, Dallas. So that went seven, right? Dallas in seven. Six. Six. Six. Okay. So Tim gets one point. Bob gets two points. Tony gets one point. And I get no points. I got nothing right in the second round. Bob's got it perfectly right so far, right? No. I picked Washington. Oh, right, right, right. There's that again. Yes. But we all got that wrong. I'm perfectly right. Yeah, exactly.

[00:26:01] That leads us to Florida and Carolina in the Eastern Conference Finals. So, Tim, your pick on that and any thoughts that you have? Florida in two. God, there I am. I'm frozen. Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you. All right. I'll make my predictions then, Duke out. I think Florida wins in six.

[00:26:30] It's going to be a good series. It's going to be hard. It's going to be – I just fucking hate Carolina so much, man. I really want to see them get swept again. I don't think it's going to happen. But I do think Florida, in the end, they've been there before. They – you know, Wabrowski's been pretty good. Seth Jones looked great. I just think that third line – you know, I've said it over and over again. The third line is an important line.

[00:26:58] And I just think that's better than anything that the Canes have. Bob? I agree completely. I mean, this is not just a pick of the heart. Florida is the better team. I don't – I cannot see them losing to it. So, I'll take them in six as well. Tom? I'm going to go Florida seven. I think – I have to give – as much as I hate Carolina, I have to give them credit.

[00:27:25] I mean, you know, they're – I don't think they could beat Florida, but I don't think they're that bad of a team. And I think it'll go seven, though. I think if the Devils were in full strength, they would be playing the Florida Panthers right now. But they weren't, so we're not. That means that we would have taken care of Carolina, and we would have taken care of Washington, which I just thought they looked like frauds. Maybe we don't want to call them that, but they sure did look like it in that second round. Florida Panthers are a wagon.

[00:27:53] They are doing it in four. I don't think that Carolina gets a win. I'm going with the sweep. I hope that's right. Yeah. So, then we got the – Dallas Edmonton. I mean, this is going to be a fucking barn burner. Tim? I'm going to go Edmonton in seven. I'm not betting against them again. All right. Bob? This one sucks.

[00:28:21] I think Edmonton had a harder path or more respectable – the two teams they beat, I was just a little more surprised at how they beat them. You know, four to two against L.A. I thought that would at least go the distance. And then four games to one against Vegas is quite impressive. I'm a big Dallas fan, but I don't know. Like I said, Edmonton seemed to have that mistake again. So, yeah, I'm going to go with Edmonton as well. What did you do, seven, Tim? Yeah, I took them in seven. I'll go six then.

[00:28:52] Tony Baloney. I'm going to go Dallas in seven. I picked Dallas the last series. I thought they were – you know, I don't know. I think Edmonton, it's hard to bet against them because when you have McDavid, you know, you just think he's going to come through at the end. But I think Dallas is going to win the cup this year. I mean – I thought the Jets were a big task, man. Yeah.

[00:29:18] I think Odinger's been the best goalie in the playoffs. I know – It's kind of what I'm leaning with. Odinger, it's just been great. Dallas is super deep. They're well coached. They're a good team. Edmonton's been there before, and they kind of seem like they just kicked it into another gear come playoff time. This is a tough one, man. I think it's going to go seven, and I'm going to go with the rematch.

[00:29:48] I'll take the Oilers in seven. So I'm the only one with the Stars. You're the only one with Dallas. I want to be there with you, Tony. Me too. I'm going to regret it already. I have – I do too. I like DeBoer too, man. I kind of – Yeah. I would love to see him win one. I would love to see him get one. I want to see – We're hoping that Dallas wins.

[00:30:07] There is one very glaring reason why I kind of want to see the best Canadian player in a Canadian city win the cup this particular year. Why? You just want to? Because. Because I'd like to see – That's very compelling. This thing. No, because of this fucking dickhead. Not the best color guy in the business for nothing, folks. Look, I'm trying not to make it political because of the fucking asshole in charge. Make it political. Okay. All right.

[00:30:37] I'll make it political. I want to see Canada tell Trump to go fuck himself and win the cup. You think by winning the cup that will do it? Yes. I think so. No. If I go on – Go on X and see that. But I think Trump will just create another fucking series of jinxes at this idiot fucking – yeah. Okay. I mean – I explained that great. I explained it really great. I thought you guys would pick up on that, but you're not. He thinks Ovechkin is from Canada, so he probably has no idea that Edmonton is even Canadian. Yeah. To his apology in his new jet. Biden has stage nine cancer, apparently.

[00:31:07] For this fucking idiot. Oh, man. Yeah, don't. Don't. I'm sad. That makes me sad. I know. All right. And then George Wendt died. I know. Should we give a little shout-out for one out for Norm? Norm. Cheers. The king of the fucking one-liners, right? Every time he walked into that bar. How's life in the fast lane, Norm? I don't know. Can't find the on-ramp. That was one of the best. How's life treating you, Norm? Like a baby treats a diaper. That was another great one. Like, I just love that show.

[00:31:35] I love – I loved him. That sucks. I mean, the show was on for what? 20-something years? A long time. Yeah, I bet. But they – oh, and today was – I also saw – because earlier today, I was like, oh, it's the 30th-something anniversary of Cheers going off the air. And the fact that he decided to die today, too, is pretty crazy. But – You think he had a thing in it? That's what was keeping him alive? Yeah. Yeah, 30-second. My life? The 30-second anniversary of it going off the air. I'm done.

[00:32:07] They stretched so much out of – Cheers basically had one set. But they didn't have – oh, yeah. Like, the amount that they were able to stretch out of that one set is remarkable. It's like Breakfast Club. Good show. Yeah. That should be one of our sneak drafts is classic sitcoms. We'll get there. We'll get there. We got time. So, before we get into the games, let's actually, since this is a devil podcast, talk a little bit about the devils.

[00:32:33] Tim, you had mentioned before we started recording that there's some hubbub going on. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, we all know that most likely Mitch Marner is not going to re-sign in Toronto. Even if Toronto decides that they want to re-sign him and he decides he wants to re-sign him there, I just think that the fans will end up burning the contract and they don't want him there. So, he's going somewhere else.

[00:32:58] I wasn't even seriously thinking that he would be a consideration to the devils. But is this what people are now trying to aggregate here? Yes. You know, in the unlimited pool of we don't have a salary cap world, sure, fuck it. Give him $15 million and let's sign Sam Bennett too and sign everybody else. What I saw was it was positioned as like, who would you rather have, Mitch Marner or Sam Bennett? And it's like, I take Sam Bennett all day.

[00:33:28] Like, I don't – we have other versions of Mitch Marner. He's a duplicative type of player to what we have already in terms of Bratt and Jack. And I think we need someone, A, who could put the puck in at 5-on-5. Marner's good at 5-on-5 penalty kills. But it's just another guy like that, you know, kind of a slight framed, you know, guy that, you know, his playoff issues are real. And Sam Bennett's a guy that comes up clutch.

[00:33:56] I don't think Sam Bennett's contract would age particularly well because of the type of game that he plays. Like, we need to maximize this current window, which is probably two to three more years, maybe a four, and find the right type of mix and the right type of players. And I think Sam Bennett all day over Mitch Marner. I mean, I had said back in the wintertime that that should be Tom Fitzgerald's number one – you know, this is before the whole Quinn Hughes thing, of course, started happening.

[00:34:25] But, like, Sam Bennett is, in my opinion, the guy. But, you know, we went – and let's say Mitch Marner ends up signing and you have a line of huge – Jack Hughes centering Marner and Bratt. That line will be so much fun to watch for 82 games. I mean, they would just light it up. They would have just a remarkable, you know, highlight reel goal. I just think it would be great. But then come playoff time, I just think that, you know, we've all seen Mitch –

[00:34:52] and, you know, I don't want to shit on Bratt, but, you know, he's not necessarily a guy that, you know, has shown us a ton in the playoffs and Jack, you know, barely stays healthy for them. So, for me – Yeah, but Jack's only run in the playoffs. No, I know. It was remarkable. And I think Bratt's still a little bit passenger-esque when it comes to Jack. But my point is if you were talking about which one – I mean, first of all, Bennett comes in at a much lower price point too.

[00:35:18] But he gives you that winning pedigree that, you know, this guy's clutch. And when the lights are the brightest, Sam Bennett shows up. And he plays the exact style game that we need on this team. Like you said, right? Mitch Marner – yeah, we got those guys. We don't have a Sam Bennett. That's what we need. So, that's why I would go with Sam. What about you guys? Bennett. Bob. Or Don. Bennett. I don't want Marner.

[00:35:44] I think what you said about the playoffs is pretty much a fact. So, I think Bennett's a player that could – you know, he's an impact player and could help the team right away. And I like – and I also like his – the way he carries himself on the ice, which we always need more of anyway. Yeah. I have absolutely nothing to add to that. It's Bennett all the way. Okay. All right. Okay. And again, I don't think we're going to sign Sam Bennett.

[00:36:13] I think he's going to re-sign in Florida. So, it's probably a bit of a moot point. Maybe. I don't know. I think we should go after Mitch Marner hard. No, but like we – you know, we need multiple pieces. And Bennett would be an ideal one. Yes, he would. And his goal scoring at five on five is something we need. I was actually looking at – I started thinking, I was like, you know, our power play was – basically carried us throughout the entire season offensively.

[00:36:43] Even in the early months when we were really good, it was still because of our power play. Like our five on five scoring was pretty mediocre. So, we need someone who can contribute more at five on five. And I kind of abandoned my little depth scoring project. Just got too much of a pain in the ass. Some of the fucking formulas I was trying to do. But Sam Bennett checks that box too because, you know, like he's not going to be –

[00:37:12] he's not going to be a guy that's going to come in and need to rely on production from a first power play, which is what Marner would probably need. And, you know, Bennett can –

[00:37:49] 100%. 100%. You've got to get the guys – this team's got to be a very good five on five. Yeah, you want your power play to be as good as possible, but you have to keep that in mind that come playoff time, you're not going to get that many kicks at the can on the power play as you would in a regular season. Yeah, and that's – you know, so that's kind of the – in the sort of UFA, RFA, offer sheet world, I started kind of compiling a list of guys that actually fall into that bucket

[00:38:17] because, you know, there's only one guy, Brandon Hagel, is the first player in 30 years or maybe more. It might have been 40 years to score over 30 goals with no power play time. And it's just so like – you need guys that can produce at that level. And Bennett does that. You know, he's a 20, 25 goal scorer. And you pay for that extra sandpaper.

[00:38:41] I mean, people that equate like the contract with your production exclusively, I think that's a misguided way to look at it. Sure. So anyway, that's it. Anything else devil-wise, guys, since we're already at like the 40-minute mark and we have games to play, so should we just dive on in? Yeah. What do you guys want to do first, a snake draft or a devil? It's a devil you know now, so I can get that over with. Okay. All right.

[00:39:09] I think I have loaded everything onto our new studio in here. So just give me a second to make sure that I have everything. All right. Oh, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. We're good. Shall we play a game? Buckle up, boys and girls. It is time for The Devil You Know on the Uncle Pucker New Jersey Devil Podcast.

[00:39:48] All right. I'll never get old. It's just too good. It's perfect. So we are about to play The Devil You Know, the most fun and interactive game in New Jersey Devil Podcast history today. It's going to be Tony Zamboni giving us clues to a former New Jersey Devil player. Myself, Tim, and Bobby have to guess who it is. We get three incorrect guesses before we are eliminated. We can ask Tony any question that we want he can or cannot answer. It is totally up to him. Tony, the floor is yours.

[00:40:16] You notice I never answer a question, if you've ever noticed this. This former devil. What? What? Huh? Go ahead. Who? This former devil was born in Illinois in 1990. This former devil played with six NHL teams.

[00:40:45] So he was born in 90? Okay. He played with six NHL teams. Mm-hmm. This former devil played in the USHL with the Chicago Steel for 2007 and 2008 season. This former devil was 6'3 and shoots left.

[00:41:18] This former devil played with the Arizona Coyotes also. This former devil was a defenseman. This former devil was drafted by the Columbus Blue Jackets.

[00:41:46] This former devil also played for the Boston Bruins. Jesus. When did he play for the devils? Yeah. I mean, is there any devil related shit? No. This former devil was drafted in 2009. By whom? Columbus. Blue Jackets, right? Oh, yeah. My bad. 2009. Gotcha.

[00:42:13] This former devil played 217 games with the devils. Okay. 117 games with the devs. This former devil was a defenseman again, scored 23 goals as a devil. I got nothing right now.

[00:42:43] This former devil played 544 games in total. He had 38 goals and 80 assists and was a negative 35. This former devil also played for the rags. Jesus. I played for Rangers. Rangers. What did I say? This is the, this is, he was on the devils during the, during the dark, during the dark days.

[00:43:13] Yeah, he was. The days that I admittedly have checked out. There's a portion of time in devils history that I just didn't, I was not hockey, not into hockey. This former devil played 12 years in the NHL. Hmm. 12 years. How many games did he play for the devils? 217.

[00:43:44] Do you want me to keep on going? Yeah. Yeah. This former devil wore five numbers in the 12 years that he played. These numbers are seven, four, 17, two, and 27. What number did he wear for the devils? Well, I guess that eliminates two. Sheldon Story? No. No. No. Is he Canadian? No, he's from Illinois. He is from Illinois? Yeah. No. Yeah.

[00:44:14] I thought you said Sheldon Story was Canadian. He's Canadian. Oh my God. I have no idea. When, when did he play with New Jersey? Well, I'll get to that. Uh, this former devil was drafted 21st overall in 2009. Uh, so he's CBJ's first overall pick in 2009. From Illinois? Yep. That's what the man says. Fuck.

[00:44:43] Let the man go through. Yeah. I got nothing here. This former devil was on, was played for the devils 2017 and, uh, 2018. 2017 and 18. He played with New Jersey. So he was actually a devil for what? Six, 16, 17, 17, 18. Um, but he was in the playoffs with them in, uh, 17, 18. Wait, so how many years? What?

[00:45:12] 17, 2017 and 2018. He was in the playoffs with the devils. What was this? How many years did he play with the devils total? Uh, three. Did he play and come back? I thought you said he had like a couple hundred games. No. Yeah. Is it the rev? He played 217 games with the devils. And there's that. Is it the reverend? Is it reverend? No. That's not. No, I. Yes. Bob is right. John. You just said John. Oh, John Moore. John Moore. Yeah. Yeah. It's John Moore.

[00:45:42] Nice, Bob. Nice. That was in the dark ages for me, man. That was the gotta get away from my kid. I thought that one clue was kind of cool. Cool. Two, man. Seven, four, 17, two, and 27. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. I forgot all about John Moore. All right. Now we are going to do our snake draft. Good job, Bobby. Fuck. If that guy didn't exist, it wouldn't change my life one bit. Yeah. Add that to the card.

[00:46:12] So now we are going to do our snake draft of the week where we're going to do a three round snake draft. We will figure out the order in a second. And today's category is we have done already the most overrated bands ever. Now we are going to do the most underrated bands ever. So everybody pick a number one through 10. We'll go Tony, Bob, Tim, me.

[00:46:41] Pick a number one through 10. Tony. Seven. Seven. Ten. Seven. Ten. Five. Five. All right. And we can all see the random number generator there and we will generate. What's that? Five. Five. Okay. So Bob goes first. No, I do not. Oh, who had five? Tim. Okay.

[00:47:11] Tim. And then Tony. Tony, you pick seven or did you pick? You pick seven. Yeah. So then Tony. And then actually that would be me. Yeah. And then last. All right. So Tony. No, Tim, Tony, Bob, me. No. That's not. Edibles are kicking in on Chris. Tony. Yeah. So the last few days, seriously, I have yesterday.

[00:47:40] I, my backyard has been a mess. Like it's just been everything. Like we haven't had time to do anything. So like garbage, everything's been like thrown back there. Like an old grill. I had a bunch of like cleaned out the garage. So everything went in the backyard, just tons of shit. So last week I had one 800 got junk come. They pulled everything out. Got it. So this week today and yesterday was just 22 bags of leaves and sticks and shit that I brought out to the curb.

[00:48:07] Power washed my deck, my patio, back of my house, mowed down everything. Like just, so I've been outside working in the sun for the last two days. So yeah, my mind's fucking shot. So I apologize in advance. So it's Tim, Tony, me, and then Bob. All right. So Tim, you get the first pick in the first round for the most underrated band in history. Soundgarden.

[00:48:36] And you think Soundgarden's underrated, huh? Well, remember what we were talking about? So relative to. Yeah. Pearl Jam, Nirvana, the other kind of guys from that generation in that era. I think they didn't quite get the level of shine that I think those guys got or the level of prestige.

[00:49:00] And of the three, I mean, Chris Cornell's as a vocalist alone, he's probably one of the best vocalists who's ever fucking lived. So yeah, that's why I picked Soundgarden. And that was kind of, you know, struggling with it because I think it's relative to. Yeah. I don't know if I can really argue with that. I agree with those points that you make. They weren't up there. So, okay. That's a good one. I am so excited to see what Tony ends up picking because. Well, first of all, I got to disagree with both of you.

[00:49:28] I think Soundgarden actually outlived most of those bands at the end of the day. Here's my question. Maybe not Pearl Jam, so to say. I mean, Tony. Well, we all know Nirvana. You might want to phrase that a little bit. Well, Chris Cornell is dead too. So, I mean. Yeah, but you know, but I'm talking about as of like longevity and then Audioslave and all the other stuff. But here's the question. Did Soundgarden outlive all them or did Chris Cornell? Because I feel like Chris Cornell had more shine than the band. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah.

[00:49:57] But I think when Black Hole Sun, I mean, that was right up there with you were seeing that as many times as you were seeing, you know, Teen Spirit at one point. I get where you're coming from, Tom, but I've got a similar idea to what Tim did in like the relevance to. And I think that you're looking back in that era. The kind of the key there is that there's a few bands that kind of really get captured as like the Godfathers of grunge, you know, and it's Nirvana and Pearl Jam, even Stone Temple Palace. I'm the others that are like, I get it.

[00:50:26] And look, that's why we do this. But like, and that was that was kind of the angle that I was taking is it's is it's relative to their peers in their genre. And I just think, you know, I mean, Pearl Jam came out of the gate so fast with 10 and same with Nirvana. And it just I feel like the shine on them was more so than Soundgarden was heavier than them as far as Soundgarden. And I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't necessarily classify them as grunge, but it was kind of

[00:50:55] the same Pacific Northwest and kind of the air. So I don't know. I think that's I thought Cornell was out of if you talk like if you're going better Cobain and I don't hate any of these guys, but I thought that I thought Cornell was the best voice of all of them, you know, easily. So I mean, have you ever heard him do something? Nothing compares to you. Yeah. That's depressing as shit, but it's great. You know, that's right. You know, it's. But yeah, no. And this is the thing with this whole thing right here.

[00:51:25] Like this this topic that we're doing. It's a really hard one because obviously I always lose these because I listen to nothing anybody else listens to, really. So I kind of tried to go a little all over the place and not so. But like I'm going to say Thin Lizzy first. And the reason why I'm going to say Thin Lizzy was is Thin Lizzy's amazing band. And only thing people cared about here was like one song. The boys are back in town. That was the only thing people cared about. If you look at the Thin Lizzy discography, it's amazing. Black Rose is an awesome record.

[00:51:55] You know, just I don't know when they had John Sykes in the band. I thought Phil Lennett was awesome lyrics. You know, just I don't know. I mean, I feel like in the States we didn't understand. It's kind of like Queen in a way. If you really think when Queen first came around, like they weren't accepted so much in the States. And I feel like Thin Lizzy never got popular except for like one song here. They're from Ireland, right? Yeah. Yeah. They're from Dublin, right? I mean, that's a great pick. And it's exactly right. It's like. Um, they're great.

[00:52:25] But Chris, you would dig. I'm totally mad. I know you're like, you know, from hanging out with you. I know it's kind of stuff you'd like. I think you would dig Thin Lizzy a lot. I think that's a good one. No. All right. So my first pick is a band who I think would have been. Okay, buddy. I know. I know. I love you too. Okay. Hang on. Let's get you out of here. Hang on a second, guys. Fuck off, Turbo. It's tired. I look at my fucking headphones right now. I thought you were just about to peel over everything. Ah.

[00:52:54] That was crazy. It was fighting his throat in front of us. 20 pound puppy. For everyone listening at home, we just got a full fucking cock shot of Chris. Oh, you did? Nice. Nice. All right. So my first band is one of my favorite bands. I absolutely love this band, and I think they would have been a lot more popular if it wasn't for their name. I do think that their name didn't give them any justice, because when you see this on a marquee, you think, why am I going to go in and see a band called The Replacements?

[00:53:24] The Replacements are my number one pick. I absolutely love The Replacements. And anybody that's not familiar, their discology is great. I mean, they started off as just this garage punk band out of Minnesota. And throughout the course of their careers, just got so much better at lyric writing and everything. And they put out three albums in a row. It was Let It Be.

[00:53:50] And yes, only The Replacements could have pulled off calling one of their albums Let It Be. Pleased to meet me. And Don't Tell a Soul. If anybody is not familiar with, or actually, not Don't Tell a Soul. We'll put Tim in there. So if you're not familiar with The Replacements, let it be. Yes. Pleased to meet me. And Tim. Those three albums, they are phenomenal. I love them.

[00:54:16] They should have been way more famous and way more, I think, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't know. Anyway. Mainstream. I so thought Chris was going with the Butthole Surfers. When you said their name just makes you not want it, I was like, oh, he's going to go with the Butthole Surfers. Butthole Surfers would have been a good one. That's where I thought you were going with that one. All right, Bobby, your first pick. All right. Listen. Let me know if this one's too successful and I'll just start over. You too.

[00:54:46] I want to at least put it out there. Led Zeppelin. No, Nick. It is Led Zeppelin. Boy, George. Son of a bitch. It really is not for what they did at the time. What? I'm serious. Hear me out. Put him in the phone. Okay, okay. We'll hear him out. I don't understand the topic, but good. I did. And that's why I said if it's too big, I got another one. This one I just threw in late. I'm just not going to want to. Widely considered the greatest rock. Next is Kiss. There's a problem.

[00:55:14] I feel like in their time, they got their respect. I feel like now they're not talked about in the way that the Beatles and the Stones are. And I think Led Zeppelin is better than both of them. So I don't understand it. But like I said, I understand they're way too successful. So if you want me to go to my next one, I'll just go to my next one. Yeah. I mean, I would think that Led Zeppelin is way too successful to be categorized as underrated. But I mean, what do you guys think? We, the picks are the picks.

[00:55:42] I would like to see the comments on the Instagram. All right. We will let, we'll let the ridicule fly. Led Zeppelin. And then Bob, you also get the pick first in your second round. Who do you have here? Now I'll go way more obscure. This is actually an underrated band that I don't know many people that enjoy like I do. And that is better than Ezra. Oh. I think they've got some really good songs, especially their older stuff. They are popular, but I think they could have been.

[00:56:13] Bigger. And they're probably in my top 10. I don't know where exactly in my top 10, but I just enjoy lyrics and the sound of better than Ezra. Okay. We'll take your word for it. My second pick is a band who, yes, they were. They did get. Surprise, Tony. You didn't pick these guys for your first pick, but just another heavy band that was fucking great. And they're still out there still putting out great music. And it's Faith No More.

[00:56:41] Faith No More should have been much more famous than they were. So my second pick is Faith No More. Cross that on my list. You know, I saw Mike Patton. You had Faith No More on there, huh? Yeah. That's great. I saw Mike Patton play in Orlando at this small little club with his band called Tomahawk. Tomahawk? Yeah. Dude, it was absolutely awesome, man. He was doing the whole show through the policeman walkie-talkie. Yeah. It was just, it was such a small setting. Mike Patton is the man.

[00:57:09] I've seen him a few times, but that was one of the most intimate shows I've been to where he's right there. And it was absolutely awesome. That would have been cool to see. Hey, Tony. I'm going to go with something. Oh, wait. Sorry. I have a Faith No More story. I have a Faith No More story. Oh, good. Okay. Go ahead. I controlled the warm-up music in college for our college hockey team. And Epic was a mainstay in my list. Good one. That was the first song I ever heard from them. It was like the 80s.

[00:57:38] I was probably 12 years old, 13 years old. And I saw the video and I fucking fell in love with that album. And then Angel Dust came out and that was like, just blew me away. Tony, your second thing. MTV played music. There was where the sawmill was. Chris, you remember this, I'm sure. When that song came out, there was a metal shop, like a heavy metal shop right across the street from where – I think it became a surf shop eventually. Yeah. Right across from the sawmill.

[00:58:07] And I remember when that song first came out, I went up there and they had – there was the first place I ever saw Faith No More posters. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I was like, oh, man. It was like – because that was the big thing. You remember? I think it was the same time it was Dr. Feelgood came out and then the real thing. Yeah. And it was like this big – Faith No More fans hated Motley Crue, vice versa, but I do remember that time period. I hate Motley Crue. My first two records were killer. After that, it's all shit. But Shout Out to Devil's Great. Okay.

[00:58:35] But I'm going to go with a band that no one's going to know here probably because I just think they're a great band and I think that – you know, they're just fucking underrated. They're an underground band called Destroyer 666. Destroyer 666. No one's going to know. I've already lost. Dude, I called in. Hey, Tim, please. Tony, I called in the metal hits for you last time. I'll do it again this time. I don't have a chance. I thought he actually won one the last time. No. Yeah.

[00:59:03] He got a lot for his obscure metal hits. Yeah. All right. There were a bunch of comments on Twitter too that were like fucking group four all day. Hell yeah. Yeah. Like they liked your shit. All right, Tim, your second pick. All right. I'm going with live. Oh, that was on my list. Okay. I went to a bachelor party in Montreal and as you do – or not a bachelor party actually. No, never mind.

[00:59:33] I did go to a bachelor party in Montreal. First time I went to Montreal was for spring break before we turned 21 because you can drink in Canada. And we were children and we were on like a shoestring budget. So we would go and eat breakfast at the strip club and club super sex. And we – Never eat at a strip bar. Whatever, dude. We were like 19 years old. We had iron stomachs. We were like – That's true. It didn't matter. And it was free. It was a free buffet for friends.

[01:00:03] Lip blisters the next day. It was fun. Dude, we were sleeping like six to eight. Crabs in your beer. All around. I was smoking like fucking player cigarettes. It was disgusting. And the best – I'll call it performance I've ever seen was the lightning crashes by an artist at said club. And I can never get it out of my head. And I still utilize it to this day. By the way, go to jergens.com.

[01:00:33] What the hell is he talking about? So it wasn't the actual band. So you're saying this cover band that did live – No. It's talking about a stripper. A stripper performed. Oh, it was a lightning crash. And it changed my fucking life. Yes. It was awesome. She had glasses. It was amazing. I know. It doesn't, right? But it builds. And it was so good. I think live is a good pick. Like seriously, I had that too.

[01:00:58] Like mental jewelry, you can actually challenge Throwing Copper for being a better record. And I thought it was great because I saw them up in Massachusetts. And they actually like opened up with doing like five straight songs from mental jewelry. And this is when live like hit it big with Throwing Copper. And you could tell like the fans that were interested in finding their first record too. Or the ones that just were used to radio play. Because it was like me and like a couple other dudes that were like singing anything from mental jewelry. And as soon as they were done with that and went to Throwing Copper, the whole crowd was singing it up.

[01:01:26] But their first couple albums are really good. Yeah. Okay. You know, I was looked up. They went number one a couple times. But like, you know, they're also from local – they're all pretty close to me too. They're PA, right? Yeah. York, Pennsylvania. Yeah. All right. So Tim, you get the third and final pick here. All right. So I had a couple of options here. And I knew we'd be all over the map. But I'm going to stay home, stay in New Jersey and go to Blues Traveler.

[01:01:57] Oh. Good. Blues Traveler. Okay. Love Blues Traveler. Princeton. I'm a Princeton guy. They're from Princeton. I didn't know they were even from Jersey. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I actually knew John Popper. Hung out with him a few times before he went fucking completely insane. Took him to his trip home in Canada. Right. He tried to eat me. I'm sure. That was a private story between us and all 12 of our listeners. I wonder how many harmonicas he accidentally swallowed.

[01:02:25] I mean, Jesus Christ. You ever see that dude on the heart, man? Like he fucking slobbers on it like a fucking dog on a dog. Just the level of talent that that guy had alone. Like the guitars kind of sucked. But like the drummer was nasty. His talent was nasty. I had this double disc live album. When I put it, I installed a CD changer in my car, which was my first car. Yeah. And that was just a staple in that. And I actually lost the CDs because my car broke down on 287.

[01:02:55] And that was the last time I saw my car because. Hold on. Anybody else get this quick reference here? Tim's first car, CD changer. Our first car, cassette player. Just want to make sure everybody realizes this here. Thanks. It had a cassette deck in it, but I had to install the CD changer. You installed the disc changer. Oh, like it's a couple of them. I had to do that in my old Civic too. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I like Blues Traveler. Yeah. I love Blues Traveler.

[01:03:20] And of all the like kind of that jam band-ish, you know, late 80s, early 90s jam band genre. You know, again, I was looking at Relative too. They didn't quite blow up as much as the other guys. Probably, you know, the harmonica is a little off-putting to some people, but they're awesome. And they have a double live album. I think it's a live in the Fillmore is an incredible album. So, Blues Traveler. All right. So, Tim, you wrap it up with Soundgarden, Live, and Blues Traveler. Yeah. All right.

[01:03:49] Tony, your last pick. It's hard to top that stripper story from Tim, but I'm going to go with the greatest punk band. It's a great look right there, Tim. I'm frozen. He's frozen. He's reached his nipple. Oh, God. It's like the old guy. It was that Billy Madison. He's in. He's in. He's in. He's in. The football coach. Yeah. That's what you look like. All right. I'm refreshing.

[01:04:19] Tony, can I guess before you say who it is? Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, just give me any more background before you say it, just in case. It's a punk band. It's like, I think one of the most underrated punk bands that's out there. Buzzcocks. No. The Dwarves. The Dwarves. Okay. The Dwarves are an amazing band. I think they're just a little too sleazy to get credit for the mainstream, but fucking great singer with an amazing voice. Solo albums are killer also.

[01:04:48] So, yeah, I'm going to go with The Dwarves. I see all these bands like Boink 182 that got real popular, man. I think The Dwarves blow them all away. Like I said, The Dwarves are just too edgy. No, I like The Dwarves. I'm with you. I like that pick. Definitely underrated. My third pick. Check them out. You like them. Yeah. My third pick. There's one thing that I think is missing in music today, and that is just a straight up good kick ass rock and roll band.

[01:05:19] You know? I mean, there's just not many of them. And these guys have been doing it for like 20 years, and they're so fucking good. And they just never got over the hump on playing small clubs, and that's Clutch. Clutch is fucking great. And that's my third and final pick. I'm going with Clutch. You know, I have to mention one that you guys might not agree about, but I think you guys will. Do you guys remember?

[01:05:45] One of the most underrated singers, and Ugly Kid Joe. That is a band that's hard not to mention because Crane Whitfield, you know, Ozzy's favorite singer was Crane Whitfield. Motorhead, Lemmy's favorite singer was Crane Whitfield. The guy's amazing voice can still sing. They still put out good records. The problem with that band was they got lumped under the Everything About You tag. Like everybody knew that song from them. Their records were way better than that. Like I said, heavy. You know, it's just rock.

[01:06:13] It's metal, but it's like that kind of style, the 90s metal. But man, what an underrated band. Like I said, the records they still put out are killer. They play in Europe, and it's like packed. You know, they just don't play in the States that much. But a band that just, like I said, they kind of fell under almost that joke band status. And I think that really hurt them. I think their name hurt them, too. Yeah. And you guys know why they were called Ugly Kid Joe? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. So there was a band called Pretty Boy Floyd back in the day. And I guess they were on the same circuit.

[01:06:43] And one of the guitar players, I guess, was like, hey, you know what? Fuck that. The Pretty Boy Floyd. Let's just call ourselves Ugly Kid Joe. And that's how it happened. Then Ozzy heard about them. And Ozzy's the one that bought them on the road for the first time. No shit. Yeah. I like Wayne's World. Even though it's not a pick. It's a good. Just to mention that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good mention. Bobby, you bring it home. Oh, shit. I'm going to get so crucified. I have my total list, man. This one's going back to the nostalgia train.

[01:07:11] And I just got to say before, the other two that didn't make the list that were right there were the Black Crows and Alice in Chains. Just want to throw that out there before I put out my third and final, which is John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. Otherwise known as Eddie and the Cruisers. You're in timeout. He just said John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. Can we just all... You got that? All right. I just remembered Bob in high school. Love it. Now that he said this.

[01:07:40] I've totally forgotten this for years. Now I picture Bobby and Eddie and the Cruisers. I just can't listen to the fucking dark side without thinking of Bob. That's all. I mean... Bobby, I haven't thought of that in years and you... Name another band, right? That that's their music and all they're known for is the soundtrack of the fictional band that played their music. But that's what they play. Like, talk about a rough hand, dude. They're totally fun to see. Saw them up in Asbury. They're a great time. They're throwback rock and roll. And it should be a joke because it's a soundtrack kind of band.

[01:08:10] But it's literally their music and they get no credit for it. Great soundtrack. They only know Eddie and the Cruisers. What's the actual band? John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band. Bobby, I forgot all about that. I remember you loved that. I have not thought about that in years, man. I'm going to get destroyed on this one. Bobby's most underrated bands are Led Zeppelin. Better than Ezra and John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band.

[01:08:40] I'm voting for Bobby. Tony's been Lizzie, which I think is going to get a lot of votes. Destroyer 666 probably will get a lot of votes because that's fucking – people know that shit. And the Dwarfs. I like Tony's list. And then I'm the Replacements, Faith No More, and Clutch. So who's winning this thing, boys? Is this a bad time for me to put in my two-week notice? Get out of here. You're not a – Now you can't leave. You never know. I mean I'm real curious to what people are going to say about Led Zeppelin.

[01:09:10] I always lose this shit, man. I'm – Okay, remember. We got to do the Led Zeppelin in context though. I really do. I'm just saying – Bobby, any context. It doesn't make sense. They are not mentioned with some of these icons of music history. Not a week goes by that I don't see like the Lincoln Center honoring Led Zeppelin playing Stairway to Heaven with like a full fucking choir.

[01:09:38] I mean – Jim Cage is sitting there crying. Robert Plant crying. But this was a tough one. It was a tough one. And that's why I suggested the relative to part of it because I could see Bobby's angle on that. Yes. I can see Bobby's angle on that. Probably should have stuck with Alice in Change, but he did the grunge thing, so I moved off it. So what is it? Whoever wins can pick whatever they want as a topic? Yes. Whatever.

[01:10:04] It doesn't have to be entertainment even though that's usually what we end up doing, but it can be anything. It could be a better – What other bands does you guys have on your list? Girl Foods. I had three, and I was able to get all three. If I was going to put another band on here, I might put Rise Against because I think they're a pretty good punk rock band – punk slash rock band, not a punk rock band. And I like them a lot, but here's the problem with Rise Against is all their live stuff is god-awful. Like they're just not a good live band.

[01:10:34] The singer is terrible live, but their studio shit, I dig. But I can't put them in a category when they can't play live where all these other bands I picked are just great live. So that's my other one. But I only had three with maybe an honorable mention to Rise Against. So who else did you have, Bobby? Like I said, Black Crowes and Alice in Change, the other two. And I really wanted to put it in there, but I also thought it would be fun to be stupid. So that is fun. Who else did you have, Tim?

[01:11:04] I had 311 and Diggable Planets. Oh, 311. Who's Diggable Planets? They're like a kind of smooth hip-hop band of like the Tribe Called Quest-ish type of vibe. All right. Tribe Called Quest, they had that song in Judgment Night? Yes. I thought it was. Yes, they did. Who else did you have, Tone? That was my – the Yugly Kid Jet was probably my biggest one because I – Okay.

[01:11:33] Yeah, I can't think of – it's hard, this one, because like even some people, if you said to some people, oh, Thin Lizzy, they'd be like, well, Thin Lizzy, I've heard of them. Yeah, but – Exactly. You find like one 70-year-old guy. Yeah. They should have been as popular as Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And the Thin Lizzy just had – Dude, Led Zeppelin was like a nobody. What are you talking about? I had Pink Floyd in my hopper. I was just waiting for him. Right. There you go. Hi, fuckers. I got to go. I think we're all going to go. My dog needs to get fed. Here, Jack. Any money? Yeah. Jack. Say hi, Jack.

[01:12:02] You're a good puppy. Marshall, say hi. That's a dog. Which one's Jack's? Jack's the one looking at us, and Marshall's the one that looks like he can give a shit. Jack's the one staring at us. That's Marshall. Jack's giving you a death stare. Like, let's go. He's like, it's past six o'clock, asshole. Right. My dog's already eight. All right. So anything else you guys want to – before we wrap up tonight's fun little show? No. RIP Norm. Yeah. Yeah. RIP Norm. We'll throw – you know. Pour one out for you tonight, big George Wendt.

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