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[00:00:27] Hey everyone!

[00:00:46] Mr. Devil here, Kenny Danico, three-time Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils.

[00:00:53] You're listening to the Uncle Puckers New Jersey Devils Podcast with Chris, Dan, Bobby

[00:00:58] and Tony, the Uncle Puckers.

[00:01:00] Let's go Devils!

[00:01:03] Happy Memorial Day today gentlemen.

[00:01:07] How's everybody doing?

[00:01:08] Good.

[00:01:09] I remembered it was Memorial Day so that's a good start.

[00:01:13] Yeah, yeah because it's a Monday and you guys aren't at work.

[00:01:17] I'm normally off on Monday so this in no way shape or form affects my week.

[00:01:22] It's a good day to be off though, right?

[00:01:24] Kind of crazy.

[00:01:25] It is a good day and the mass exodus of everyone leaving is really nice.

[00:01:29] Leaving the area.

[00:01:31] It started last night but now I just had a bunch of people texting me at work

[00:01:35] not realizing I was off today telling me like three people just now texting

[00:01:40] saying that we're there in bumper-to-bumper traffic getting everyone is mass exiting

[00:01:46] Don't be driving north.

[00:01:47] No, no you definitely don't want to be driving north.

[00:01:50] Today's a bad day for that.

[00:01:51] None of you guys are going to barbecue today?

[00:01:52] What was that?

[00:01:53] Nobody's barbecuing today or anything?

[00:01:55] I'm not barbecuing today.

[00:01:57] I'm gonna go find a place to eat tacos and drink coronas and stay outside before

[00:02:01] it rains.

[00:02:02] You might have to do that after the show.

[00:02:03] What are you saying?

[00:02:04] We got a couple of tacos yesterday so we're done.

[00:02:07] Today is just steaks on the grill.

[00:02:08] Yeah I went to my brother's yesterday.

[00:02:11] That was it.

[00:02:12] You know Dan I was actually just gonna start cooking for you.

[00:02:15] No, no, no I was gonna say Tony you're just at a regular weekend right?

[00:02:19] Yeah pretty much yeah.

[00:02:20] We don't do much for this holiday here.

[00:02:22] I was surprised though Tony just mentioned before we went on that they actually have

[00:02:26] like you can tell it's the 4th of July where they kind of almost celebrate.

[00:02:29] Yeah it's a celebration of the illness yeah.

[00:02:32] Really?

[00:02:33] Yeah they actually like have like American food stands and stuff for that for the

[00:02:37] event and it goes on every year down here.

[00:02:38] It's like an hour away from me but it's in our main city.

[00:02:41] That's pretty cool.

[00:02:42] What do they put in those stands like hot dogs and like?

[00:02:44] Hot dogs, pizza and all that stuff yeah.

[00:02:47] And actually Dan I was thinking to you about talking about hot dogs and I saw Morris

[00:02:50] and I was reading this thing where I guess he now like he'll stop a show if they're

[00:02:54] selling hot dogs near the venue.

[00:02:56] Yeah he's trying to strong arm people to not sell any meat at his shows.

[00:03:02] Yeah I saw that.

[00:03:04] Meat is murder.

[00:03:05] Meat is murder just like Del.

[00:03:06] That's right.

[00:03:07] Yeah and then he doesn't even go through with his concerts.

[00:03:10] You hear he like cancels half of them.

[00:03:11] He's like I have a cold.

[00:03:12] Yeah my sister saw him when I was like in the 80s when I was you know like maybe

[00:03:18] 10 or so.

[00:03:19] I remember my sister went to go see him.

[00:03:22] She's you know of course older and I think it was at Madison Square Garden and he

[00:03:26] left in the middle of the show.

[00:03:28] He walked off the stage and I don't think it had anything to do with the concessions.

[00:03:33] If I had a venue I would never book him.

[00:03:35] He's a dick.

[00:03:36] He doesn't finish most of his shows.

[00:03:38] But Dan don't you have a great Morrissey story don't you?

[00:03:40] Saturday Night Live.

[00:03:41] Well we did get a chance to sneak up to Saturday Night Live to watch them like do a rehearsal

[00:03:47] and it was me and a couple friends and so we did that.

[00:03:52] We got away with that pretty good but then we couldn't even leave the building

[00:03:55] properly because we didn't know where the hell we were.

[00:03:57] We had somebody who worked in the building sneak us in and they kind of like let

[00:04:00] us roam around and then we were apprehended by security.

[00:04:04] Get out.

[00:04:06] They took our licenses and threatened us and like you know.

[00:04:10] Really?

[00:04:11] I wonder if I go to that 30 Rock building if I would get arrested today because that

[00:04:15] was the whole time.

[00:04:16] Do you think your license is on the wall like a picture of it?

[00:04:18] I highly doubt it.

[00:04:19] Do not let this guy in.

[00:04:21] I guess but I doubt it.

[00:04:22] It was kind of cool though because we were wandering around.

[00:04:24] We ran into Kevin Nealon and Chris Rock was there and even Biff.

[00:04:30] I think you're just making shit up now.

[00:04:31] No I remember this.

[00:04:32] We were walking through the hallways.

[00:04:33] I remember this story.

[00:04:35] Yeah you heard it coming from one of the other guys right?

[00:04:37] He was no longer with us.

[00:04:38] He was there.

[00:04:39] Yeah.

[00:04:40] That fear of going back in a building is kind of a real thing.

[00:04:42] He never even got out, the other guy?

[00:04:44] He stuck in there still?

[00:04:46] He never made it out.

[00:04:48] He didn't make it out of something that's for sure.

[00:04:50] No he don't make it out.

[00:04:52] I remember I was like.

[00:04:53] Nobody makes it out alive.

[00:04:54] Exactly.

[00:04:55] Especially when you're shooting heroin.

[00:04:58] Yeah exactly.

[00:04:59] I think I was like 10 or 12 when I got caught stealing like fishing rods from

[00:05:04] Bob Kislin's.

[00:05:05] I don't even know why I wasn't fishing.

[00:05:07] That's just what we decided to steal.

[00:05:09] And he comes over, he finds me and my friends.

[00:05:12] We ran it through the dumpster and then we came back in the store for round two

[00:05:15] and he caught us.

[00:05:16] He made us give it back.

[00:05:17] It's ironic.

[00:05:18] He asked who we are.

[00:05:19] He caught stealing fishing rods.

[00:05:20] I know he writes down our names and stuff.

[00:05:23] He's like I'm not going to call your parents.

[00:05:24] Don't ever show your face in this store again.

[00:05:26] That's where the guy didn't go into after college to buy a hockey stick.

[00:05:30] I'm like does this guy know my face?

[00:05:32] Does he recognize me from my 10 year old face?

[00:05:34] You got banned from Bob Kislin's sporting goods.

[00:05:37] Wow.

[00:05:38] I never stole again if it matters.

[00:05:40] I used to love Kislin's.

[00:05:41] Oh I've been busted for stealing and that did not stop me from doing it again.

[00:05:47] But yeah I used to steal CDs all the time.

[00:05:50] I've told this story.

[00:05:51] You're the reason they put those giant packages around.

[00:05:53] Remember that?

[00:05:54] Right.

[00:05:55] That was the best way to steal them because they were in a giant package and the CD

[00:05:58] was in the bottom.

[00:06:00] So all you had to do was lift it up enough like you were reading it and then you just

[00:06:04] kind of open up the bottom with your other finger and the CD falls out.

[00:06:08] And then you put the CD into your pants and you're walking out.

[00:06:14] And that's it.

[00:06:15] So that was a good way to steal.

[00:06:19] But yeah I've gotten, I remember we were stealing, this is bad too.

[00:06:23] I was probably like 10 and KB Toy Store in the mall.

[00:06:28] I was with two other dudes, two brothers and like I don't know we were just in the mall

[00:06:33] and they used to sell these toys.

[00:06:35] I don't know if you guys remember Mask?

[00:06:38] Mobile Strike Command?

[00:06:39] Oh yeah.

[00:06:40] Oh shit I do remember that.

[00:06:41] That was a big Christmas I remember that.

[00:06:42] And that was like a cartoon show and then they made the toys for it.

[00:06:45] Exactly and the toys changed into, so they were like Transformers but the motorcycle

[00:06:52] would change into a helicopter and that kind of shit right?

[00:06:55] Transformers meet GI Joe.

[00:06:57] You didn't have those at the Guilford Motel.

[00:06:59] Right.

[00:07:00] So we stole like just grabbing boxes and walking out of KB like into the back, like

[00:07:09] the register was on one side and we were just walking out the other side and we were

[00:07:14] taking like expensive shit.

[00:07:15] And I remember when my mom came to pick us up we had like at the time like 50 or

[00:07:21] 60 dollars worth of toys.

[00:07:23] Toys, you know of course your mom said how the fuck did you get this?

[00:07:27] So I told him we found money somewhere.

[00:07:29] I made up some bullshit story and yeah.

[00:07:32] We won a raffle.

[00:07:33] It was a door.

[00:07:34] Yeah I don't know what I said at the time but I remember clearly getting away

[00:07:37] with that.

[00:07:38] Now my sister, my middle sister, I'm the youngest so my middle sister is she got

[00:07:44] busted doing everything.

[00:07:46] She was the best because she was so bad at being like you know being bad.

[00:07:53] She would constantly get in trouble which allowed me to basically just fly under

[00:07:57] the radar.

[00:07:58] Yeah that's awesome.

[00:07:59] Just fly under the radar and nobody.

[00:08:00] You're yelling at her going you know why can't you be more like your brother?

[00:08:03] Exactly.

[00:08:04] He's just getting away with it.

[00:08:05] He's not any better than that.

[00:08:07] It is very Ferris and Jeannie Bueller situation.

[00:08:10] Dude your house seems so chill Chris though.

[00:08:13] It seems so chill over there going over.

[00:08:14] Everyone was calm.

[00:08:15] It was like you know my house was kind of crazy growing up.

[00:08:18] Your house was very like I don't know everyone just seemed like they got along

[00:08:22] you know.

[00:08:23] Maybe they didn't I don't know but that's what it felt like when you went over.

[00:08:28] Easy to get along with your friends.

[00:08:30] Like they get up.

[00:08:31] Yeah.

[00:08:32] My family was very close to my friends and very accommodating to everybody.

[00:08:36] That was my mom in general.

[00:08:37] She was awesome.

[00:08:38] But yeah I mean it was chill.

[00:08:41] My sister like I said she would do stupid shit all the time and get busted.

[00:08:46] And it was awesome.

[00:08:48] So that's how it worked.

[00:08:50] So what about some hockey boys?

[00:08:51] Should we talk about some of that?

[00:08:53] Should we talk about how the New York Rangers are like a fucking case of herpes

[00:08:57] and they just don't go away?

[00:08:59] That would be nice if we could clear that up.

[00:09:01] This team gets outplayed in every game and they hang around like a dingleberry

[00:09:07] and then they just fucking strike in overtime or late in the third and they win a game.

[00:09:13] Yep.

[00:09:14] Two wins in a row in overtime.

[00:09:16] So frustrating.

[00:09:17] Yes.

[00:09:18] They're definitely getting outplayed.

[00:09:19] Florida's got to find a way to close the deal.

[00:09:21] They did a great job shutting them down in game one.

[00:09:23] I mean the Rangers couldn't get anything going and they did kind of hang around

[00:09:28] in that game but when it came down to it in those you know final five ten minutes

[00:09:32] Florida knew what they were doing.

[00:09:34] Yeah they clamped down.

[00:09:35] Yeah and they're getting a little you know I would say they're letting their foot off

[00:09:40] the gas giving the Rangers a little bit too much room.

[00:09:43] You know I don't know it seemed like they score and then they kind of they think they're

[00:09:47] going to clamp down the rest of the game.

[00:09:49] That's a bad idea.

[00:09:50] They got to keep going.

[00:09:51] Yeah I agree and I mean Sisterkin I think stole them the last two games like that.

[00:09:56] 37 saves last night.

[00:10:00] And then you know and the other guy you know Bobrovsky he's playing great too but just

[00:10:06] so I was watching the game at work yesterday and we were busy and you know so I had

[00:10:12] outside into the bar area it's packed right.

[00:10:15] And it's and so they're watching it and I'm on the big TV is I'm watching it

[00:10:19] on my phone but I'm there on a delay.

[00:10:22] So I know every time the Rangers score that they're going to all freak out and

[00:10:27] start cheering.

[00:10:28] So you know it's like when the overtime came and I was like God damn it.

[00:10:32] I took my fucking earbuds off and I was just pissed and I look and I'm like it's

[00:10:37] fucking places about to explode.

[00:10:39] And with that everybody just went nuts.

[00:10:42] I felt like I was at the fucking garden.

[00:10:43] You just see Chris going out the back door five times last night.

[00:10:46] Like I wonder why those five specific times he had to leave the building.

[00:10:49] Imagine imagine the Super Bowl in Tampa when my football team was playing the

[00:10:53] box and the box won and there was like fireworks going over.

[00:10:56] I live right by the stadium in Tampa.

[00:10:58] It's bad.

[00:10:59] It was bad.

[00:11:00] I know exactly what you're saying.

[00:11:01] I want to say that this is worse because we're not in New York.

[00:11:05] I mean I have less of a problem but these fucking people are out here.

[00:11:09] There's too many of them.

[00:11:09] They just like they love their Rangers.

[00:11:11] OK well get ready.

[00:11:12] Me and Bobby were talking before you guys came on tonight.

[00:11:14] Like it's there's a possibility that we're going to have an awful fucking

[00:11:18] year ahead of us as double fans because with this what's what's about to

[00:11:21] happen because I'm telling you the Rangers the problem with them is like I

[00:11:24] said me and Bob are talking about this.

[00:11:25] They have these little things happening for them that usually happens for

[00:11:29] teams that pull off a cup.

[00:11:32] We can say we hate Rempy.

[00:11:33] He's only playing four minutes game but it's like a bastion thing.

[00:11:36] They're winning when he's in the game somehow they're pulling off

[00:11:39] just Erkenspinkery.

[00:11:40] This motherfucker real quick.

[00:11:42] This fucking Rempy.

[00:11:44] This piece of shit gets cheered by 18000 people when he wins a fucking

[00:11:50] face off.

[00:11:51] Like are you kidding me.

[00:11:53] Are you kidding me.

[00:11:54] Oh I know.

[00:11:55] And the best part and then the place just gets you know quiet as a mouse

[00:11:59] when he gets the puck he's in his offensive zone he's around the net

[00:12:04] and some Panther I don't know who it was I think it was Feraghi.

[00:12:07] This knocked him on his ass took the puck and went all the way the

[00:12:11] other way like this dude is not a good player.

[00:12:14] I understand you all love him and everything.

[00:12:16] Inconsequential in that last not the last game but the one before.

[00:12:19] I think he got a couple minutes in the third.

[00:12:21] He got one shift in overtime like eight minutes in like he didn't do

[00:12:24] anything for that win but at least he actually played some minutes

[00:12:28] in that game.

[00:12:28] He played like 10 minutes total which is I think a career high for

[00:12:32] him and I think last night again he played four less than five

[00:12:35] minutes.

[00:12:36] This guy like I said he's getting cheered for winning a face off.

[00:12:39] I know he's a dirty goon.

[00:12:41] He's not even like a real tough guy.

[00:12:43] He doesn't you know he's not a great fighter or anything.

[00:12:45] He's just like likes to get dirty and they love him for that.

[00:12:49] And well let's talk about real quick to be real.

[00:12:52] The king of the dirty fucking goons.

[00:12:54] All right.

[00:12:55] Like I mean how is that not a five minute major on

[00:12:58] true but yesterday with that elbow.

[00:13:00] Well because teams that would know if it was their team

[00:13:03] doing this they would their player would not get away with

[00:13:05] it.

[00:13:06] Apparently according to a lot of Ranger fans he didn't make

[00:13:09] contact so it's not even a penalty.

[00:13:12] Oh OK.

[00:13:13] Let alone the intent and the flaring elbow.

[00:13:16] That seems to be the argument I'm hearing.

[00:13:18] Deluded scumbag.

[00:13:19] Very deluded.

[00:13:20] Oh yeah.

[00:13:22] I just watched a bunch of clips of this guy and it's just

[00:13:25] elbow out after elbow out like constantly.

[00:13:28] This is not a once in a while thing.

[00:13:30] He's kind of like whoops you know he to the game.

[00:13:32] I put my arm up.

[00:13:33] This is like you can roll the tape back in any game

[00:13:36] and just see this guy chicken wing and everybody.

[00:13:38] Yep.

[00:13:39] Ridiculous.

[00:13:40] Yeah he's dirty.

[00:13:41] I think what I was listening to somebody actually I need to

[00:13:44] get the pocket.

[00:13:44] I was listening to the Andy Strickland show this week and

[00:13:47] they made a statement.

[00:13:48] I thought about this last night with that hit you guys

[00:13:50] are talking about.

[00:13:51] You know they said that every hit is an investment in a

[00:13:53] playoffs and I kind of feel you know as much as I

[00:13:56] fucking hate good you're just getting away with this shit

[00:13:58] and it is an investment how they're going to win because

[00:14:01] you know what I like I said when I heard that guy say

[00:14:03] that I was thinking about the other day and then last

[00:14:04] time I'm exactly what he's talking about.

[00:14:06] You know if you could throw a team off their game or hurt

[00:14:08] their players and kind of get away with it you're actually

[00:14:11] doing a 100 percent.

[00:14:12] That's playoff hockey.

[00:14:13] There was a quote of Mershan that we were talking about a

[00:14:16] show or two ago and he was saying just the same thing.

[00:14:18] You're trying to hurt each other but there is a

[00:14:20] difference here and really the responsibility falls on

[00:14:22] the league.

[00:14:23] So you hurt somebody with a clean hit.

[00:14:25] Well we know what that's like.

[00:14:27] Devils fans have had you know Scott Stevens on their

[00:14:30] teams and those remember and he would totally agree

[00:14:33] with it.

[00:14:34] He was going out there to take people out if he

[00:14:36] could.

[00:14:36] The difference is he's not going to go outside the

[00:14:38] rules.

[00:14:39] He's not going to try and throw elbow like you don't

[00:14:41] have to be that great of a player to hurt somebody if

[00:14:43] you're willing to spear them or you know do these

[00:14:46] outrageous things that the league needs to step in

[00:14:49] and go.

[00:14:49] These are the rules you want to hurt somebody.

[00:14:52] You can in this sport throw shoulders you know throw

[00:14:54] good hit the elbow.

[00:14:56] It's very easy to do major damage to a player and

[00:14:59] that's why they made it illegal.

[00:15:02] It doesn't take a lot of skill to throw that elbow

[00:15:04] out.

[00:15:05] It's also kind of a cowardly thing when you're

[00:15:06] throwing your body you know there's a risk to you.

[00:15:09] Asked God Stevens he's got tons of you know head

[00:15:12] trauma as a result of the hits he threw not the

[00:15:15] hits he took and but if you're going to throw

[00:15:17] that elbow out it's like a way to avoid most of

[00:15:19] the collision but still hurt.

[00:15:21] And that's why it's kind of a legal move.

[00:15:26] That's why I don't respect that.

[00:15:27] I respect somebody going out there to play super

[00:15:31] hard take out the other team.

[00:15:32] I get that.

[00:15:33] It's it's it's kind of a gladiator kind of

[00:15:35] sport.

[00:15:36] I'm OK with that.

[00:15:37] What I don't like is how we're all just going to

[00:15:39] pretend that these are legal hits.

[00:15:41] They're not the guys literally a fucking meme

[00:15:43] like you see that that flying elbow he's

[00:15:45] literally leading diving in the air when he

[00:15:48] misses that check and goes to get away with

[00:15:50] it.

[00:15:50] Why not do it.

[00:15:51] I guess right.

[00:15:51] The least not really risking his body.

[00:15:53] He's risking what his elbow.

[00:15:55] You know what I mean.

[00:15:55] Like that's what I'm saying.

[00:15:56] He's not right.

[00:15:57] I can't respect that.

[00:15:59] No it's it's ridiculous and I agree with what

[00:16:02] Strickland saying absolutely.

[00:16:04] It's an investment into you know putting just

[00:16:07] putting doubt into the opponent's head and

[00:16:09] but I still think Florida wins the series.

[00:16:12] I still think Florida if you want to play

[00:16:15] that way I think it may be clicked in

[00:16:17] Florida's head now.

[00:16:18] OK you got us twice in overtime.

[00:16:20] So what do we got to do.

[00:16:21] We got to just make sure that we don't get

[00:16:23] this thing the overtime and Rangers can

[00:16:25] score at will.

[00:16:26] It seems like you know they can be just

[00:16:29] held shotless for 15 minutes and then all

[00:16:31] of a sudden they scored two in 22 seconds

[00:16:34] or whatever the hell it was.

[00:16:35] They have that potential.

[00:16:36] But I think Florida is a better team.

[00:16:38] I think Florida is better coached.

[00:16:40] I think the only thing that the Rangers

[00:16:42] have over Florida is the goaltending

[00:16:45] and Bobrovsky is not that far below

[00:16:48] sister and a red hot goo.

[00:16:50] A red hot goo.

[00:16:52] The guy Barclay go to the drill.

[00:16:53] That's what you know that's the kind

[00:16:54] of player you need man.

[00:16:56] You need guys like that.

[00:16:57] And you know Beasley's out.

[00:17:00] So that actually helps Florida.

[00:17:01] And if you notice Florida scored twice

[00:17:03] on the power play yesterday.

[00:17:05] Beasley wasn't in the game.

[00:17:06] He's one of the best penalty killers.

[00:17:08] So they do have an advantage there

[00:17:09] I think right now.

[00:17:11] But you know I said five.

[00:17:13] I think it's definitely going to be

[00:17:16] a seven game or it looks like.

[00:17:17] I said seven.

[00:17:18] Yeah it does.

[00:17:19] Yeah the show that you know we did

[00:17:21] that didn't air.

[00:17:22] I still picked Florida and I did

[00:17:24] pick him in seven but one of the things

[00:17:25] I discussed on that was that I did say

[00:17:27] I believe that the Rangers can beat

[00:17:30] this team although I still feel

[00:17:32] Florida is the better team.

[00:17:33] It just felt like you know there's

[00:17:35] some of those little things like

[00:17:35] Tony said that just kind of start

[00:17:37] to happen in a playoff run.

[00:17:38] That being said I still think

[00:17:39] Florida is going to do it.

[00:17:40] I think they're a smarter team

[00:17:41] a better team and they're going

[00:17:42] to adjust and they're going

[00:17:43] to figure it out.

[00:17:44] It's only two to one.

[00:17:45] They better figure it out fast.

[00:17:47] Yeah I think they'll take tomorrow

[00:17:48] night and you know be 2-2

[00:17:51] and then you know best of three.

[00:17:54] That's it.

[00:17:54] So what about the Western Conference?

[00:17:56] I mean going into that I pretty much

[00:17:59] thought that Dallas was far

[00:18:01] and above the better team.

[00:18:03] Now Dan and I talked on the show

[00:18:05] before last week when it was just

[00:18:07] the two of us and I said that

[00:18:09] Edmonton really impressed me

[00:18:10] at those final two games

[00:18:11] against Vancouver how they

[00:18:12] locked them down defensively

[00:18:14] and then watching this game

[00:18:16] against these games against Dallas

[00:18:18] Edmonton is a lot better

[00:18:21] as far as a complete team

[00:18:23] than I thought they were.

[00:18:24] Yeah they're getting better every day.

[00:18:26] I thought it was you know you

[00:18:28] you keep dry saddle and hymen

[00:18:31] and then of course McDavid in check

[00:18:33] and you can beat him.

[00:18:34] I don't necessarily know that anymore man.

[00:18:37] They can lock you down their

[00:18:38] penalty kills fantastic.

[00:18:40] Their power plays fantastic

[00:18:41] and they're getting scoring from guys

[00:18:43] up and down their lineup

[00:18:44] and the big guys are showing up.

[00:18:46] That's a dangerous thing.

[00:18:47] It is kind of how they did

[00:18:48] how Dallas did shut them down

[00:18:50] in game two.

[00:18:50] Dry saddle and McDavid only had

[00:18:52] three shots between the two of them.

[00:18:53] Yeah they went three to one.

[00:18:55] Andres looking great.

[00:18:56] I think both goalies if I recall

[00:18:58] right had like a end of the stick save.

[00:19:01] Right shaft of the stick save.

[00:19:02] Yeah I don't even know if it was

[00:19:04] the same game but I just remember watch.

[00:19:05] I've been really enjoying

[00:19:06] the Western Conference.

[00:19:07] Some pretty amazing saves going on there.

[00:19:08] So man that might be a better

[00:19:11] series than I guess most thought

[00:19:13] but I think we all gave them respect.

[00:19:14] I mean six or seven is what we're.

[00:19:16] I picked six I don't remember

[00:19:17] what everybody else did.

[00:19:18] I took six too but no I just

[00:19:20] I don't know I haven't fully

[00:19:22] come to trust Stewart Skinner yet.

[00:19:24] So that's why I still think

[00:19:25] Dallas has the advantage

[00:19:26] because I just think Ottinger is

[00:19:28] you know what you're going to get

[00:19:29] from him every night and you just

[00:19:31] don't know what you're going to get

[00:19:32] with Stewart Skinner every night.

[00:19:33] So Dallas is a little deeper

[00:19:35] I think all around on that.

[00:19:36] I agree.

[00:19:36] So but you never know.

[00:19:38] You know it's why they play it.

[00:19:40] That games tonight right?

[00:19:41] First game in Edmonton tonight.

[00:19:43] So that's special.

[00:19:45] NHL tonight was talking

[00:19:46] or somebody that said I don't

[00:19:48] know if McDavid's hurt

[00:19:49] because he's not he's still playing

[00:19:51] like great but he's not playing

[00:19:53] McDavid great.

[00:19:54] Yeah so that'd be interesting.

[00:19:56] I mean totally take over a game.

[00:19:58] Yeah he can and I think

[00:20:00] everybody's hurt so I don't really

[00:20:02] you know it's it's also the playoffs

[00:20:04] you key on the best guys you know

[00:20:06] if the if if if Jack Hughes

[00:20:09] has 105 points next year

[00:20:12] and the Devils make the playoffs

[00:20:14] they you'd be kind of stupid

[00:20:16] to think that Jack is going to do

[00:20:18] in the playoffs what he did

[00:20:19] in the regular season because all

[00:20:21] everybody's going to do is Keon

[00:20:23] shutting his line down.

[00:20:24] Don't let Jack be down

[00:20:25] to get the scoring from other places.

[00:20:27] Now I think the Devils are super deep

[00:20:29] in their top six so it'll be

[00:20:31] you know interesting to see what they do

[00:20:33] this off season.

[00:20:34] That is how it goes in the playoffs

[00:20:36] and that's why you know you need a deep team.

[00:20:38] So yeah like Edmonton is surprisingly

[00:20:40] more deep than I thought.

[00:20:41] I don't think they're as deep as Dallas

[00:20:43] but you're right you shut down

[00:20:44] that top line but then

[00:20:46] the counter move to that is

[00:20:48] your bottom two contribute

[00:20:51] and they start taking you know

[00:20:53] focus off now your your checkers

[00:20:55] are trying to get that hot third or fourth

[00:20:56] guy as well and you know it gives room

[00:20:59] for the top line to come back into the picture.

[00:21:00] So that's right we'll see who does that.

[00:21:03] I mean you look at the last three

[00:21:04] Stanley Cup champions

[00:21:06] you know I even say the last four

[00:21:08] Stanley Cup champions right Vegas

[00:21:10] Colorado and Tampa twice

[00:21:12] four of the deepest teams left there

[00:21:14] they're healthy come postseason

[00:21:16] and they're deep and that's what you need

[00:21:18] and you know Devils haven't been

[00:21:21] either in the last year.

[00:21:23] Tell you what though just looking back

[00:21:25] at the glory days like in 2000 and 2001

[00:21:28] we had a line that other teams

[00:21:30] weren't really able to shut down.

[00:21:31] If you knew you were getting with A line

[00:21:33] and they still performed all playoff long

[00:21:35] for both yes it's true that went all

[00:21:37] you know almost to the back to back

[00:21:38] Stanley Cubs.

[00:21:41] I'm trying to think back of other teams

[00:21:42] where that wasn't as prevalent like

[00:21:44] because you do see that right you're

[00:21:45] going to key on on the top guys

[00:21:47] but that line just seemed to keep

[00:21:48] marching along.

[00:21:49] I was really so balanced you know

[00:21:52] the yeah you had you know you didn't

[00:21:54] look at McDavid and Dry-Seidel and

[00:21:57] whoever else they put with them you

[00:21:58] know what I mean there's a big drop

[00:22:00] off there and I think that that you

[00:22:02] know the A line the way that worked

[00:22:04] that was uh yeah that was they were

[00:22:06] very well balanced.

[00:22:07] Yeah they were those were good teams

[00:22:09] so why don't we talk a little bit

[00:22:12] about the goaltending because there's

[00:22:15] some you know reporting now that

[00:22:18] apparently Tom Fitzgerald was really

[00:22:22] kicking the tires a lot more last

[00:22:25] season on goalies than we originally

[00:22:28] thought or I think anybody

[00:22:30] originally knew about it no no rumors

[00:22:32] about it right so you know

[00:22:34] apparently appear to be a little MIA

[00:22:36] but maybe he wasn't he apparently was

[00:22:39] not just you know waiting around he

[00:22:41] wanted Jake Allen back in December

[00:22:44] Allen nixed that trade apparently said

[00:22:46] he didn't want to come here right away

[00:22:47] until he did decide to eventually come

[00:22:49] here I don't know why he didn't want to

[00:22:51] come in December um same with Omar

[00:22:56] the trade was they were talking to

[00:22:58] Boston and Omar said he didn't want to

[00:23:00] come here now from what I read

[00:23:03] Omar didn't want to come to Jersey

[00:23:06] then because like he's really

[00:23:10] comfortable and happy in Boston he

[00:23:11] wants to see how this season goes

[00:23:13] his family's there his kids are in

[00:23:15] school I don't want to leave

[00:23:17] now but they're saying that possibly he

[00:23:19] would agree to come to Jersey in the

[00:23:22] summer if it's going to be just a

[00:23:24] fresh move and start starting I got a

[00:23:26] theory why some of these guys

[00:23:28] wouldn't want to come here

[00:23:29] and it's the defensive system I mean

[00:23:33] I'm like all the last two years

[00:23:35] really we've been looking and

[00:23:37] complaining about goaltending

[00:23:38] Devils fans in general and I'm

[00:23:41] always like yes but like I don't

[00:23:44] see any goaltender keeping up great

[00:23:48] numbers with this team as they

[00:23:49] played defense especially last season

[00:23:52] it was not a good team defensive

[00:23:54] system they have no defensive system

[00:23:56] and so like I'm hoping that with the

[00:23:59] new coach in place we have a better

[00:24:01] defensive system and not just young

[00:24:03] defensemen who are going to be stars

[00:24:05] but like really put together a whole

[00:24:08] responsible defensive system that a

[00:24:10] goaltender can be successful in you

[00:24:12] know there is no goaltender no

[00:24:13] matter how great they are who you know

[00:24:16] they get all the credit when things

[00:24:17] go well and they get all the blame when

[00:24:18] when things don't the truth is they

[00:24:20] don't work alone and I think if I

[00:24:23] will mark or Alan or anybody I look

[00:24:27] at what's going on with their

[00:24:28] goaltenders and I go yeah I'm not

[00:24:30] God it's gonna happen to me too

[00:24:32] I mean and it did every single

[00:24:34] person they brought in their

[00:24:35] numbers started good and they just got

[00:24:36] ground down to their numbers were not

[00:24:38] so good you know whether they're from

[00:24:40] the farm system or even from the

[00:24:41] outside Alan started out fantastic

[00:24:43] came down to earth a little bit and I

[00:24:45] think the longer run it would have

[00:24:46] shown even worse so do you think that

[00:24:48] the devils are going to have a lot of

[00:24:50] trouble procuring a goaltender this

[00:24:52] offseason well I mean what maybe

[00:24:56] like what Dan's saying is totally true

[00:24:57] in fact and also it's not like he's

[00:24:59] leaving the sharks to come to New

[00:25:00] Jersey he's leaving a pretty damn

[00:25:01] good Boston team at that time of the

[00:25:03] year and he's seeing what's going on

[00:25:04] in Jersey and he's probably looks at

[00:25:06] the last two seasons said they needed

[00:25:07] this they didn't get this why do I

[00:25:09] want to go there and beat escape

[00:25:10] everyone's going to be you know yell

[00:25:12] at the rafters at me so I get it it's

[00:25:14] not like like I said Boston you know

[00:25:17] they're a good team and they were a

[00:25:19] good team this year again and he

[00:25:20] probably saw what was going on in

[00:25:22] Jersey and there was a lot of

[00:25:23] questions and a lot of the coaching

[00:25:24] stuff that was going on and like that

[00:25:26] absolutely question works I mean I'm

[00:25:28] not surprised he didn't want to come

[00:25:30] there and I think that I'm more

[00:25:33] surprised about Jake Allen only for

[00:25:35] the simple fact that he was

[00:25:37] not on a team but that we're going

[00:25:40] to go anywhere and he was one of

[00:25:41] three goaltenders so like if you're one

[00:25:43] of three and you're getting starts

[00:25:45] once every two and a half weeks or

[00:25:47] whenever now it was and now you can

[00:25:49] finally go to a team and get regular

[00:25:51] play and be the number one I'm

[00:25:53] surprised he didn't want to come

[00:25:55] um yeah you know I kind of agree but

[00:25:57] I don't know and I I have no way of

[00:26:00] knowing I wonder if they looked at our

[00:26:02] team and go this is a place that's

[00:26:05] not built to help a goaltender

[00:26:06] succeed and that has been the

[00:26:08] story the last two years is that the

[00:26:10] goaltenders haven't been succeeding and

[00:26:11] I think it's more than just them I mean

[00:26:13] you had so many different guys

[00:26:14] rotating it out and did not have

[00:26:17] sustained success you know we got

[00:26:19] Schneider we thought he was like this

[00:26:20] a lot I thought he was going to be a

[00:26:22] big thing for the team for years and

[00:26:23] like you said you know it's just

[00:26:25] yeah I mean that's yeah yeah he

[00:26:28] well he was also a guy that was

[00:26:31] just riddled with injuries too and

[00:26:33] stuff and you know lost his mind at

[00:26:35] some point but I just think that um

[00:26:40] well real quick some reckless

[00:26:42] speculation I was reading something

[00:26:45] and it was from a Boston podcast or

[00:26:48] something and I wish I had written it

[00:26:51] down I just was looking it over quick

[00:26:53] and I didn't get the info on it but

[00:26:55] so apparently Swamen wants eight years

[00:26:59] at eight million dollars right

[00:27:02] I think Swamen's worth eight million

[00:27:04] dollars a year I would have no problem

[00:27:07] signing a guy like Jeremy Swamen for

[00:27:09] eight million a year

[00:27:10] but he was going on about how Boston

[00:27:13] can't afford it they need way

[00:27:14] too many things you know you're

[00:27:16] gonna have to go out and get some

[00:27:17] center help this year you're gonna

[00:27:19] have to do this do that

[00:27:21] trade Swamen get rid of Swamen who

[00:27:24] cares if he leaves

[00:27:25] you got Omar Kuh this guy says is

[00:27:28] you know can play just at that level

[00:27:30] and he's a lot cheaper

[00:27:32] so get rid of Swamen now everybody

[00:27:34] seems to think it's going to be Omar

[00:27:36] that's gone and Swamen but

[00:27:39] yeah based on the age factor alone

[00:27:40] that's what would be the

[00:27:41] would you imagine if they walked away

[00:27:43] from fucking Omar

[00:27:45] I know I mean from Swamen from

[00:27:47] Swamen as the future he's a younger

[00:27:48] guy you know

[00:27:49] they give that dude would you guys

[00:27:51] is that too much like eight million

[00:27:53] for eight years for Jeremy Swamen if

[00:27:54] the devils

[00:27:55] were thinking about that is that a

[00:27:57] move that you guys would be okay with

[00:27:59] he's 25 years old goaltenders get

[00:28:01] better as they sometimes as they age a

[00:28:02] little bit

[00:28:03] you know well he'll be what so 33 when

[00:28:06] he's done I don't think it's that bad

[00:28:07] yeah I don't I mean for you know for

[00:28:10] an ace goaltender if you're paying

[00:28:11] him

[00:28:12] eight million dollars a year it's over

[00:28:13] eight years so that eight is going

[00:28:14] to you know

[00:28:15] become less in a way right as

[00:28:17] everything keeps rising but

[00:28:18] you're gonna spend that kind of money

[00:28:19] on a number one goaltender when you

[00:28:21] spend that kind of number

[00:28:22] on your number one center and stuff

[00:28:23] like that it's not out of the realm

[00:28:24] like it's a pretty good balance to

[00:28:26] have something that

[00:28:27] consistent back there

[00:28:29] how about you dan no definitely and

[00:28:32] it's about how all the parts mesh so

[00:28:35] you know I wouldn't want to say that's

[00:28:37] it that's the answer and that has

[00:28:39] been around of what's like out there

[00:28:40] and

[00:28:41] and listen to devil's fans we just

[00:28:42] need that goaltender it's it's more

[00:28:44] than that so you definitely have to

[00:28:46] make sure that

[00:28:47] all the pieces fit and like you know

[00:28:49] we we have to have a

[00:28:50] good defensive system which includes

[00:28:52] not just defensemen but forwards

[00:28:54] and so what does that cost and so

[00:28:56] you know like is it a good move

[00:28:58] well it is if you get the rest of the

[00:29:00] pieces to go with it

[00:29:01] it's not a good move if we're expecting

[00:29:04] that for eight million dollars a year

[00:29:06] he's going to come in and no matter

[00:29:07] what kind of

[00:29:08] defensive system we're playing he's

[00:29:10] going to stop the pucks doesn't work

[00:29:11] like that you can give them all the

[00:29:12] money in the world

[00:29:13] and if you don't have a you know

[00:29:15] good support of the team

[00:29:16] uh to make that you know

[00:29:18] goaltender successful

[00:29:19] it's kind of wasted money in that

[00:29:21] way so yeah you know I really

[00:29:23] is I still harp on that like we need

[00:29:25] an entire

[00:29:27] system here I don't mean we stop trying

[00:29:28] to score goals I think a lot of

[00:29:30] doubles fans when I hear

[00:29:31] when they hear people like me say

[00:29:33] the defensive system they think we're

[00:29:34] going back to so-called trap days

[00:29:36] that's not true I'm saying look at

[00:29:37] the teams in the playoffs

[00:29:39] okay let's get real our defensive

[00:29:41] system has not been on par with

[00:29:43] that

[00:29:44] this year and you know to some

[00:29:46] extent even last year we could not

[00:29:49] do what we needed to against

[00:29:51] Carolina in the second round and a

[00:29:54] big part of that was

[00:29:55] you know looking back on it was the

[00:29:57] goaltending okay

[00:29:58] yes and no it was the defensive system

[00:30:00] too you know and people will point to

[00:30:02] the goaltenders numbers like safe

[00:30:03] percentage like well

[00:30:05] you know the safe percentage is low

[00:30:06] that's on the goaltender not

[00:30:07] necessarily

[00:30:08] like you give up great chances your

[00:30:10] safe percentage is going to get hurt

[00:30:11] too

[00:30:12] not just your goal is great what's

[00:30:14] the quality of the scoring chances

[00:30:15] we're giving up so

[00:30:17] uh I am not against it I like it I

[00:30:19] just you know

[00:30:20] what you can't answer is how does the

[00:30:22] whole picture look

[00:30:23] because you know and I I'm for it

[00:30:26] because

[00:30:27] you know if you don't have that great

[00:30:28] goaltender to build your team around

[00:30:30] in the end you're not going to go

[00:30:31] very far

[00:30:32] you know maybe you get into the

[00:30:33] playoffs maybe you get into a round

[00:30:35] or two

[00:30:36] and then you know look what's happened

[00:30:37] so far in these playoffs

[00:30:38] the best goaltenders have pretty

[00:30:40] much emerged you know

[00:30:42] um a couple maybe we're a little

[00:30:44] better especially in the west and the

[00:30:46] guys who were there

[00:30:47] but they were on teams that were

[00:30:48] not complete enough so they didn't make

[00:30:49] it through the rounds so it's you know

[00:30:51] both things yeah totally 100% right

[00:30:55] Tom Fitzgerald has been on record

[00:30:57] saying he knows exactly what this team

[00:31:00] needs

[00:31:01] okay and he's going to go out and get

[00:31:04] it this summer so we'll see

[00:31:05] if Tom has the secret sauce and he

[00:31:07] knows exactly what this team needs

[00:31:10] I know I like the most I like the

[00:31:11] bravado and now he's just got to

[00:31:12] deliver

[00:31:13] yeah I think I think we might be

[00:31:14] heading into

[00:31:15] um an off season of change in a way

[00:31:18] where

[00:31:19] you might see some lopsided trades to

[00:31:21] get money off the books

[00:31:23] uh maybe releasing players because we

[00:31:25] have a couple of contracts

[00:31:26] that if we want to do what we need to

[00:31:27] do on this team to kind of make it

[00:31:29] more complete

[00:31:29] full team like on defense you can see

[00:31:32] like a seagull or

[00:31:33] where you'd either have to kind of eat

[00:31:35] a little bit of that in a trade

[00:31:36] I don't think they'd buy them out

[00:31:37] because that would be like what two

[00:31:39] million a year for the next

[00:31:40] eight years or something like that

[00:31:42] but I think we're at the point with

[00:31:43] this team where it's not just about

[00:31:44] the few pieces that we're going to

[00:31:45] bring in

[00:31:46] through free agency or through like

[00:31:47] hockey trades

[00:31:48] but we might have to do some loss

[00:31:49] leaders you know to really kind of

[00:31:51] balance this thing out

[00:31:52] I mean like Pilots had a really good

[00:31:53] world just one you know with

[00:31:55] Jack but hasn't really done it for us

[00:31:58] and that's a big contract

[00:31:59] why is that? That's the first person I was thinking about when you mentioned my idea.

[00:32:02] What has happened to Pilots game

[00:32:05] since coming to New Jersey

[00:32:07] because like you said he goes out he

[00:32:09] plays in the worlds and

[00:32:10] he has a great uh a great tournament

[00:32:13] you know he's

[00:32:14] won Stanley Cups in Tampa he comes

[00:32:16] here yeah in first year

[00:32:18] injured you know showed up in the

[00:32:21] playoffs you know against the Rangers

[00:32:22] he was very good

[00:32:24] uh even against the Hurricanes for as

[00:32:26] good as you know

[00:32:28] anybody was for us but last year

[00:32:32] I mean he played pretty much every

[00:32:33] game he wasn't out a whole lot like

[00:32:35] this guy did. I was expecting him to have a great

[00:32:37] year last year that so much was wrong

[00:32:39] we were blaming Lindy but then he's

[00:32:41] gone and he fell out still didn't

[00:32:43] shine yeah and we're kind of looking

[00:32:44] at a guy like Pilot like you're

[00:32:48] supposed to be this calming voice in

[00:32:50] here you're supposed to be this leader

[00:32:51] in the dressing room

[00:32:52] that and maybe he was I don't know and

[00:32:54] his team just was just so fucked up

[00:32:56] that there was no nothing getting

[00:32:58] through to him. I just expected more

[00:32:59] from Pilot whether it be leadership on

[00:33:02] the ice off the ice I just don't need

[00:33:04] to see it on the ice regardless of

[00:33:05] what you can't see in the room like

[00:33:07] you just need to see it and feel it

[00:33:08] you know for him because you can

[00:33:09] argue he was brought in more

[00:33:11] strictly for that kind of leadership

[00:33:13] oh definitely than his offense you

[00:33:16] know anyone could look at that

[00:33:16] contract say all right he's probably

[00:33:18] going to decline in the next few years

[00:33:19] but there's the presence of Pilot is

[00:33:21] what we're hoping for. When him and

[00:33:22] Holla were brought in they were like

[00:33:24] the only guys with any real

[00:33:26] playoff experience that we had and

[00:33:29] that's exactly what we wanted for

[00:33:30] them and I would include Holla in

[00:33:33] this talk too like you know was

[00:33:35] he consistently great on ice last

[00:33:37] year? I don't think so I mean uh

[00:33:39] you know so who would you see Bobby

[00:33:42] throwing around restaurant terms like

[00:33:44] lost leader I like it but uh who

[00:33:46] would you who would you say other than

[00:33:47] Seigenthaler? You said a two million for

[00:33:49] eight years we owe him 12 million

[00:33:51] dollars what's this dude?

[00:33:52] Seigenthaler is oh no he's getting

[00:33:54] three point four million whatever

[00:33:56] right so for how long he's a ufa in

[00:33:58] 2028 oh shit yeah he's got a lot so

[00:34:02] that's got you you're not buying

[00:34:04] that out that that's that's a long

[00:34:06] time to pay that off and then

[00:34:08] it's like 2027 right six billion and

[00:34:10] 27 yeah 2027. So you know that's

[00:34:13] another three years um. Pallazza's the guy you can

[00:34:17] go to a team that maybe needs to get

[00:34:18] to the floor they still have that

[00:34:20] red cap floor too for some of the

[00:34:21] teams that are really good and um

[00:34:23] we're gonna send them to Utah?

[00:34:26] There you go so I mean I don't know

[00:34:28] who else but I just feel like

[00:34:30] we are starting to spend a lot of

[00:34:32] money throughout the lineup with

[00:34:33] some of our younger guys that are

[00:34:35] getting paid and a couple more that

[00:34:36] need to get paid but we have obvious

[00:34:37] deficiencies we need to get in here

[00:34:39] like some kind of a new defenseman so

[00:34:40] somebody's got to go that's just the

[00:34:42] reality and the only way they might be

[00:34:44] able to make some of this work if like

[00:34:45] Pallazza's contract is deemed too long

[00:34:47] too big uh just to eat a lot of it

[00:34:51] you know or proceed with dollar or

[00:34:52] whatever you know the grand plan is

[00:34:54] but that would be interesting to see

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[00:36:51] that's exciting i like that west

[00:36:52] virginia's in on this now i heard

[00:36:54] that when you call that number to

[00:36:55] help you get off of gambling they will

[00:36:57] give you opiates it's west virginia

[00:37:00] they'll just be like come on in

[00:37:02] here's your oxys this should take care

[00:37:04] of all your motivation to gamble

[00:37:06] yep and i bet you're gonna need

[00:37:10] rehab in about six months that's

[00:37:13] right what are they off that what do

[00:37:16] they gamble off everything now

[00:37:17] i saw the start where you're gonna play a game

[00:37:19] you're not gonna play a game game time

[00:37:21] we could stop one set tony what were

[00:37:23] you saying i'll finish when you get

[00:37:24] done go ahead buckle up boys and

[00:37:26] girls it is time for the devil you

[00:37:29] know on the uncle pucker new jersey

[00:37:31] devil podcast

[00:37:35] surprise game speaking of games i saw

[00:37:38] the what the has to be the stupidest

[00:37:40] sport i ever seen you guys ever seen

[00:37:42] this like slap competition where they

[00:37:44] fucking whack each other in the face

[00:37:45] yeah what is this bullshit

[00:37:49] what it is it's like a real sport

[00:37:52] like they have like banners hanging

[00:37:53] up with sponsors and stuff

[00:37:56] i like how they cut out like all the

[00:37:58] other sports the big problem is head

[00:37:59] injuries and they cut out everything

[00:38:01] but the head injury so you can just

[00:38:03] watch the head injury only you know

[00:38:06] well i was watching axe throwing like

[00:38:08] hatchet throwing and oh and it was

[00:38:10] like darts as far as like the board

[00:38:13] and everything but they throw fucking

[00:38:14] hatchets and it's a big competition

[00:38:17] there's fucking fans there they're

[00:38:19] like you know like you said first

[00:38:20] of all i was shocked it was

[00:38:21] televised i saw so cornhole televised

[00:38:25] on the old show that one that

[00:38:26] appears exactly i saw sword fighting

[00:38:30] i don't know if you saw bobby but i

[00:38:31] had sword fight we went to a thing

[00:38:32] he had a sword fight like all these

[00:38:33] guys in armor

[00:38:34] why are you thinking of me when you

[00:38:35] thought i was sword fighting man and

[00:38:37] bobby was here you guys said

[00:38:38] no they actually have like the knights

[00:38:40] in the armor and they're actually

[00:38:41] like really fucking fighting each other

[00:38:43] medieval times

[00:38:44] but we have a castle right by our

[00:38:45] house of course nice nice but

[00:38:48] do really the only game that

[00:38:50] matters is the devil you know

[00:38:52] and that is the um only game in

[00:38:56] podcast most fun game in devil podcast

[00:39:00] history

[00:39:00] you're gonna watch more head injuries

[00:39:02] with no physical contact

[00:39:03] that's right we were most definitely

[00:39:06] i'm i seriously feel like i have a

[00:39:08] major head injury today

[00:39:09] yeah um tony's gonna give clues to a

[00:39:11] former new jersey devil player myself

[00:39:13] bobby and dan get three incorrect

[00:39:15] guesses before we are eliminated

[00:39:18] we can ask tony any question he can

[00:39:20] or cannot answer it's completely up

[00:39:22] to him um have a whole bunch of old

[00:39:25] devil you knows but you know

[00:39:27] hopefully this guy's not on there uh

[00:39:29] well some of the ones that we've done

[00:39:31] what kind of idiot would say somebody

[00:39:33] we already did

[00:39:34] yeah all of them he's played more

[00:39:36] than five games dan

[00:39:38] i think paul martin we've done three

[00:39:40] times

[00:39:42] jason r0 rod pelley those are all

[00:39:44] just a few of the old devil you

[00:39:46] knows tony's gonna give the clues

[00:39:48] so whenever you're ready

[00:39:49] tony okay this former devil was born

[00:39:53] in 1980

[00:39:55] oh this former devil shoots left

[00:40:01] right this former devil played for

[00:40:05] three nhl teams

[00:40:11] this former devil played a total of

[00:40:13] 381 nhl games

[00:40:19] is this a is this a forward or

[00:40:21] defenseman

[00:40:22] uh i'll get that actually it's a he

[00:40:25] he's the left wing

[00:40:27] okay how many games with the devil

[00:40:33] i'm not going to get to that yet

[00:40:35] when was he drafted it's on the

[00:40:36] list somewhere but i can't find it

[00:40:37] yet

[00:40:38] all right

[00:40:38] i'm trying to figure out what his name

[00:40:39] drafted

[00:40:40] i'll get to that i'm gonna um what's

[00:40:42] his last name he was drafted in 98

[00:40:44] he was driving a letter in the back

[00:40:46] of his jersey and he was born in

[00:40:48] ontario

[00:40:49] 98 draft area was he drafted by the

[00:40:54] devils

[00:40:55] uh i'm not going to answer that yet

[00:40:59] okay was he drafted by a team other

[00:41:02] than the devils

[00:41:03] this former devil was a left wing we

[00:41:05] got to that he was six two also

[00:41:07] it's not anymore

[00:41:08] fixed it

[00:41:09] yeah you shrink when you get older

[00:41:11] don't you maybe he saved me a guess on

[00:41:12] that he had a growth he could have had

[00:41:14] a growth exactly in the 40s

[00:41:17] this former devil was drafted 106th

[00:41:19] overall

[00:41:23] so third round left winger that

[00:41:26] played 381 games

[00:41:29] a line was he on the a line

[00:41:30] a canadian that narrows it down

[00:41:35] this former devil had in the 381

[00:41:37] games he had 12 goals

[00:41:39] 23 assists 35 points but 812

[00:41:42] minutes and penalties

[00:41:44] is his name his last name longer or

[00:41:47] shorter

[00:41:47] than five letters can't tell you man

[00:41:50] that's so

[00:41:52] saying is it christoph oliva without

[00:41:55] saying is it christopher right

[00:41:56] that's what i was thinking

[00:41:57] no we already did

[00:41:58] what's that buzzer christopher

[00:41:59] was that did we do oliva already

[00:42:01] think of a season one did we do

[00:42:03] all right well i got a wrong one

[00:42:04] i think we did i'll take an x on

[00:42:05] that one

[00:42:07] um this former devil played for the

[00:42:09] stars panthers

[00:42:11] and obviously the devils

[00:42:12] is it jim mckenna in that order

[00:42:14] no not in that order

[00:42:16] no not not jim mckenna not jim mckenna

[00:42:19] okay we did him too

[00:42:21] yeah stars panthers devils i'm sorry

[00:42:25] tony was it in that order

[00:42:26] stars stars panthers and devils

[00:42:28] it's in that order dallas drafted

[00:42:31] him

[00:42:31] no he was not drafted by any of

[00:42:33] those teams actually

[00:42:35] who was he drafted by

[00:42:36] by the capitals

[00:42:38] drafted by the caps but never

[00:42:39] played for them

[00:42:40] yes yeah just for the record on the

[00:42:43] asshole that gave the jim mckenzie

[00:42:44] uh devil you know last year so i should

[00:42:46] probably have known them

[00:42:48] that's great my last move was i had

[00:42:49] him sign a boxing glove

[00:42:51] um whoops okay

[00:42:55] so this former devil only played 22

[00:42:57] games for the devils

[00:42:59] 44 penalty but he has 44

[00:43:01] he's very right hey i'm 300 and so he

[00:43:04] played 381 games i'm 379 games over

[00:43:07] dan's guy

[00:43:07] okay hold on

[00:43:08] did he put a cup with the devils

[00:43:11] no no when did he play

[00:43:13] but he had he had sworn that time

[00:43:14] with the devils though he did have 44

[00:43:16] penalty minutes

[00:43:17] when did he play for the devils

[00:43:19] we haven't got to that yet

[00:43:21] well why don't you get to that

[00:43:22] we haven't got to that why don't we

[00:43:24] get to that this former devil

[00:43:25] is currently serving as a year

[00:43:28] that he played for us

[00:43:28] did he have any face there

[00:43:30] the former devil is currently

[00:43:32] serving as a development coach for

[00:43:34] the sabers

[00:43:40] really

[00:43:42] does this does this former devil have

[00:43:44] a mustache or beard

[00:43:47] it matters what i don't know

[00:43:49] nobody has now i haven't seen him in

[00:43:50] a while

[00:43:51] i don't know this former devil is

[00:43:53] clear away from 2000 to 2014

[00:43:55] but that does include he was in the

[00:43:57] echl and ahl also but that's

[00:43:59] so that's 14 years 2000 to 2014

[00:44:03] this one may give it away to

[00:44:04] somebody i'm not sure i would um

[00:44:06] on january 29th this former devil

[00:44:08] had eight teeth shattered by a high

[00:44:10] stick from chris chelios

[00:44:13] chelios even when he had a mouth guard

[00:44:14] in against the when he was playing

[00:44:15] against the wings

[00:44:17] this does ring a bell but i can't think

[00:44:19] was he a devil when that happened

[00:44:21] i do not believe he was a devil

[00:44:23] when that happened actually i

[00:44:24] remember correctly

[00:44:25] do you have any devil's clues

[00:44:26] this former devil played in the nhl

[00:44:28] from 2006 to 2014

[00:44:32] when did he play with the devils

[00:44:33] this former devil signed a two-year

[00:44:35] contract with the devils on july

[00:44:37] 5th 2012

[00:44:40] okay so it's like the 22

[00:44:43] the dark so this was after the last

[00:44:45] cup run the 12th cup run

[00:44:48] they signed him in that summer

[00:44:50] so he would have been on that

[00:44:51] right so he didn't

[00:44:51] didn't wasn't on that team

[00:44:53] for the next 10 years yeah right

[00:44:55] yeah this is also the time that i

[00:44:57] admittedly have was checked out of

[00:44:59] hockey so i so was he

[00:45:03] this former devil made his age out

[00:45:04] there too started with a c

[00:45:06] camerelli was it camerelli no no

[00:45:08] oh shit because he was an

[00:45:10] edmonton guy too i think

[00:45:11] calgary he was calgary right right

[00:45:14] yeah my camerelli

[00:45:15] camerelli that's it yeah well that's

[00:45:17] not it so move on this former devil

[00:45:20] made his nhl debut in 2006-7 season

[00:45:25] let's see here with what's the kings

[00:45:28] against the stars yes when he

[00:45:29] played for the stars yep okay

[00:45:33] oh my god i i don't i have no clue

[00:45:35] like i said i i don't know any

[00:45:38] i got a couple more

[00:45:39] it was like form warrior

[00:45:40] this former devil played for the

[00:45:42] london nights and the of the ohl

[00:45:44] for three years he had 123 points

[00:45:46] in 187 games 206 penalty minutes

[00:45:50] this former devil played with the

[00:45:51] obviously with the devils 2012-2013

[00:45:54] season on sep this is

[00:45:56] and on september 28 2013 this

[00:45:59] former devil was traded to florida

[00:46:01] for scott timmins in a six round

[00:46:03] pick yeah and this former devil

[00:46:08] war number 22 it's the last clue i

[00:46:09] have for everybody 22

[00:46:12] claw la mule claw la mule yeah exactly

[00:46:17] we've got 22 after la mule way after

[00:46:21] la mule he was a he was a fighter i

[00:46:23] mean if you know chris you might not

[00:46:24] know because you might have been

[00:46:25] checked outdoor in the season i was

[00:46:27] checked out during it was a fighter

[00:46:28] and his short time with the devils

[00:46:30] he was always in fights

[00:46:31] i feel like as soon as you tell us

[00:46:32] the name we're gonna have an aha

[00:46:33] moment there but yeah definitely um

[00:46:36] let's see so after the devils you

[00:46:38] say he went to where

[00:46:41] uh he got to florida florida

[00:46:44] so he played first with dallas then

[00:46:47] with us and then with florida those

[00:46:48] are the three teams he played for

[00:46:49] but he was drafted by washington

[00:46:52] or his initials ap no that's your

[00:46:59] cat has a name guess okay i was

[00:47:02] gonna say kind of strowsky but

[00:47:04] that's wrong you said he was a

[00:47:06] canadian but he's not a french

[00:47:07] canadian right you said he was from

[00:47:09] where ontario or something is from

[00:47:12] hamilton ontario yeah okay so he's got

[00:47:16] some kind of anglo sounding name i

[00:47:17] assume right and he played left wing

[00:47:23] yep left wing i think we might have

[00:47:27] our first yeah i mean i got nothing

[00:47:30] he's already played 22 i think dan

[00:47:32] will know him too once i say i know

[00:47:34] 22 games with the devils he played

[00:47:36] 22 games with devils but he actually

[00:47:38] had played 381 nhl games

[00:47:40] right we got like four four and a

[00:47:42] half years right or so if you play

[00:47:44] all the devils for like three or four

[00:47:45] weeks ah

[00:47:47] i don't do of games whatever makes you

[00:47:49] feel better anybody else want to take

[00:47:51] a shot here

[00:47:52] hold on the tough one do i get a point

[00:47:55] if nobody gets it

[00:47:56] no that's the rule i want that's

[00:47:59] should be i think i gave no because

[00:48:00] then you could just pick impossible

[00:48:02] fucking guys like i got not

[00:48:04] 22 games it's kind of a deterrent

[00:48:06] it's kind of a deterrent yeah

[00:48:08] it's dam's level of that by the way

[00:48:11] i'm getting like remember that was

[00:48:13] not premeditated i know that was a last

[00:48:14] minute attempt at a saving the fact that

[00:48:17] i could not

[00:48:18] remember we had no i i give you credit

[00:48:20] for actually

[00:48:22] trying to pull that out but it was a

[00:48:23] bad one to do definitely

[00:48:25] um and i actually sit down with this

[00:48:27] and pull out some facts guys i try to

[00:48:28] you know find someone

[00:48:30] i try to mix up so no one guesses

[00:48:31] it in five seconds interesting yeah you

[00:48:33] don't want to

[00:48:34] guess towards the end you can't even

[00:48:35] tell me what kind of facial hair

[00:48:36] this man had

[00:48:37] that's true you can't what kind of

[00:48:39] research is this we might have to get

[00:48:40] into

[00:48:41] like real clues and say tony you won

[00:48:44] nobody got it but now you gotta give us

[00:48:45] some hints on the name or something

[00:48:47] sounds like or initials like

[00:48:49] something i don't even you can probably

[00:48:50] give us the initials we still might

[00:48:51] not get it i was just curious like how

[00:48:52] long his name was too

[00:48:55] more than seven letters i'll give you the initials if you guys want

[00:48:57] because i see b okay cb

[00:49:00] cb cock block blocker oh he was

[00:49:03] great

[00:49:04] um cb it's not charlie brown

[00:49:07] no you sure i'm not going to give

[00:49:09] you his initials that'll just give it

[00:49:10] away ryan cloy one of those is initial

[00:49:12] one of those are his initials ryan cloy

[00:49:14] no it's not cloy no it's not cb

[00:49:18] oh i thought you said one of the

[00:49:19] initials is a c i'm not gonna give you

[00:49:20] out the initials you guys will guess

[00:49:21] it

[00:49:22] i'm sure bobby would guess it if i

[00:49:23] gave the initials was one of them an

[00:49:25] x or something unusual one of them is

[00:49:27] a b his last name starts with a b

[00:49:29] that's my

[00:49:29] his last name starts with a b yes

[00:49:32] yeah so i think of anglo names that

[00:49:35] start with b

[00:49:36] this guy might be oh

[00:49:41] uh i want to say like bamburg or

[00:49:44] something it's like in uh

[00:49:46] little german yeah i don't know dude

[00:49:52] burgermeister burgermeister burger

[00:49:54] i'll give you guys i don't what do i

[00:49:56] care if you guys guess his initials

[00:49:57] are a k and a b

[00:49:59] barge yep fuck man that's pretty

[00:50:02] good

[00:50:03] what was his first name christian

[00:50:05] christian barge yeah yeah and i don't

[00:50:08] think that's a bad devil to choose for

[00:50:09] the devil you know i don't know about

[00:50:11] that

[00:50:11] christian barge is i want i don't even

[00:50:14] know that was i gave about three

[00:50:15] three more than three guesses i should

[00:50:17] have been eliminated from that

[00:50:18] winner i don't think you know i

[00:50:20] don't think that one i'm gonna ask

[00:50:21] questions

[00:50:22] oh i said oh i said i said like four

[00:50:26] people

[00:50:26] i don't think we did we do all of

[00:50:28] them we ever did all the way because

[00:50:30] i think we would all guess that for

[00:50:31] some reason i feel like we left that

[00:50:32] guy out they haven't done

[00:50:34] i thought i was open the draft i mean i

[00:50:35] have no real recollection of barge at

[00:50:37] all like i i just

[00:50:39] well i know i don't even know how you

[00:50:40] got it

[00:50:42] um so okay well now he doesn't get a

[00:50:47] point i said that i'm not going to

[00:50:49] take something we're not doing a

[00:50:50] point i didn't cheat

[00:50:52] that was a tough one tomey we did

[00:50:53] only what was last year so this was

[00:50:55] christian yeah i can go through the

[00:50:56] notes

[00:50:57] but and see but okay interesting i

[00:51:00] think that's a

[00:51:00] that's gonna be a uh a no winner

[00:51:03] looks like it's gonna pour here

[00:51:05] our first no winner that's gonna take

[00:51:07] away from my sitting outside or

[00:51:08] drinking beers and eating tacos today

[00:51:10] you have a slap competition instead

[00:51:12] sit inside i don't want to sit

[00:51:15] inside i want to sit outside been

[00:51:16] inside all weekend i want to go

[00:51:18] outside

[00:51:18] why don't you cook something i should

[00:51:21] do that too

[00:51:22] i should go to cook something i just

[00:51:24] usually do

[00:51:25] you guys want a couple of coronas

[00:51:26] and some shrimp tacos i'll be a

[00:51:28] happy guy that's it a couple

[00:51:30] crowns yesterday was

[00:51:31] life live in a corona a long time i can

[00:51:34] only drink ice cold coros awesome

[00:51:35] right and it's got to be hot like it's

[00:51:37] gotta be hot outside not the beer

[00:51:39] but i used to do like lime in there

[00:51:41] yeah i like i don't do the fruit you

[00:51:43] know

[00:51:44] no i like the fruit um

[00:51:48] yeah so i do the lime and i enjoy

[00:51:50] my coronas the only one like i said

[00:51:52] it's got to be hot as fuck

[00:51:53] uh corona is not a beer i'll ever

[00:51:55] drink in the winter time

[00:51:57] you know that's not to sit back on

[00:51:58] the couch watch a hockey game like

[00:52:00] enjoy your beer kind of beer now

[00:52:02] no like winter time i'm gonna do that

[00:52:04] it's gonna be like a guinness or

[00:52:06] you know something a little darker

[00:52:08] little thicker

[00:52:09] i don't drink beer a whole lot but

[00:52:11] now i really want one

[00:52:13] well what else you guys got planned

[00:52:15] for uh

[00:52:16] today for the final uh end of the

[00:52:19] memorial day weekend what about you

[00:52:21] tony what are you doing today

[00:52:22] watching hockey tonight and i want

[00:52:24] actually i'll miss the game so it's

[00:52:25] gonna be on what time is it by

[00:52:26] you is it almost seven now

[00:52:28] it is 6 46 p.m that's crazy yeah it's

[00:52:31] almost seven o'clock huh

[00:52:32] what time is going down but it's sunny

[00:52:34] till 11 at night so hey

[00:52:36] that's awesome what time is tacos

[00:52:37] going down is that what you said i

[00:52:38] don't know um i gotta i guess when

[00:52:41] we get done i'll go talk to the wife

[00:52:43] and see what's going on i know my

[00:52:44] son maybe come out yeah no definitely

[00:52:46] you guys should yeah you know what

[00:52:48] you do all weekend dance um well i

[00:52:50] did we did go over my brothers for a

[00:52:52] little bit

[00:52:52] okay how's he doing doing well yeah

[00:52:55] so there was that and uh that was you

[00:52:58] know kind of a low-key affair but that

[00:53:00] was it it was nice and then i had some

[00:53:02] work on saturday

[00:53:04] bunch of it that was the weekend here

[00:53:07] we are

[00:53:07] what about you bobby two yesterday we

[00:53:10] had a good friend

[00:53:11] of jamie's uh parents 50th anniversary

[00:53:14] so we had a big barbecue for that

[00:53:15] that's where it was nice super hot

[00:53:17] and i was drinking those ice cold

[00:53:18] corona so that was perfect and then

[00:53:19] we went to our friend's house

[00:53:21] they always do a memorial day party

[00:53:22] with a bunch of bands in the

[00:53:23] backyard

[00:53:24] did that till late last night so that's

[00:53:26] why today is just low key we're

[00:53:28] nice trying to get us catered to maybe

[00:53:30] a

[00:53:30] either like a star wars or rocky

[00:53:32] marathon or something if the weather

[00:53:34] gets shitty

[00:53:35] throw the stakes have you watched any

[00:53:38] of the um

[00:53:39] so star wars put out the tales

[00:53:42] last year there was a couple years

[00:53:44] ago they did tales of the jedi have

[00:53:45] you seen that

[00:53:46] i think i saw that shorts like uh like

[00:53:48] 20 minutes 30 minute

[00:53:50] uh okay i think i did see one that

[00:53:52] looked like it was like

[00:53:53] in feudal japan for some reason there's

[00:53:56] there was a few that they had done that

[00:53:58] were a little um

[00:54:00] yeah there are some that have

[00:54:01] different animation and all kinds of

[00:54:03] cool stories but then they just

[00:54:05] released tales of the empire

[00:54:08] which is six episodes and it just

[00:54:10] takes

[00:54:11] the three episode arcs of two

[00:54:14] characters

[00:54:15] so the first three episode arc is

[00:54:17] you guys all saw

[00:54:18] asoka right yeah yeah so was the

[00:54:21] whole first three episodes is the

[00:54:22] whole arc of

[00:54:23] morgan elspeth and how she kind of gets

[00:54:26] hooked up right

[00:54:27] wrong from yeah that's right she's like

[00:54:30] like the witch

[00:54:30] type exactly woman from uh yeah okay

[00:54:33] yeah i remember

[00:54:33] and then the second if you guys

[00:54:35] watched clone wars

[00:54:37] do you remember you never watched

[00:54:40] cloning i can't get into any of the

[00:54:41] animated

[00:54:42] ones that kind of fill in the gaps

[00:54:43] i've tried even when there's

[00:54:44] nothing to watch i just for whatever

[00:54:46] reason i can't

[00:54:47] are you serious really i haven't seen

[00:54:49] any of them the clone war stuff is

[00:54:51] long

[00:54:51] and it's it's on i feel like it started

[00:54:53] out kind of kiddish

[00:54:55] but as it got closer and closer it

[00:54:56] butts up right to the events of uh

[00:54:59] which is what yeah was that well it

[00:55:01] ends revenge of this

[00:55:02] the sith basically ends at the end of

[00:55:04] that right well the final season that

[00:55:06] they released when disney came out

[00:55:08] so because they had finished it up

[00:55:10] and then it was

[00:55:11] clone wars was kind of left

[00:55:12] unfinished for a while and then

[00:55:14] they did final season and basically

[00:55:17] it goes right up to

[00:55:19] because asoka had left the jedi temple

[00:55:22] at the time so

[00:55:23] like her story arc was kind of going on

[00:55:25] her own and then she ends up

[00:55:28] it's like her story of how she kind

[00:55:29] of gets hooked back up with anakin

[00:55:31] right around

[00:55:31] the order 66 and how she and some of

[00:55:34] the other clone troopers survive

[00:55:36] the whole thing that's really really

[00:55:38] cool but

[00:55:39] i thought that was good when they

[00:55:41] made those mesh

[00:55:42] yeah yeah and rebels is fantastic

[00:55:45] yeah rebel is pretty good i like i

[00:55:47] loved it

[00:55:48] i want to try just like to put it on i

[00:55:50] see the card i get in and i just

[00:55:51] mentally i can't get into it there was

[00:55:53] a little to get over there with that

[00:55:54] and the first few that i caught a

[00:55:56] clone wars i mean they even have like

[00:55:58] the goofy announcer dude like

[00:55:59] introducing every episode you know

[00:56:01] yeah he's like and wow you know

[00:56:03] yeah it was very old-timey feel and

[00:56:05] it looked like it was aimed at kids

[00:56:06] but i think it they did a good job

[00:56:08] with it and they really like i like

[00:56:10] all these things that are coming out

[00:56:11] to kind of fill in all these gaps

[00:56:12] or try to correct stuff from like

[00:56:14] the first three and i gotta ask you

[00:56:16] guys is kind of like a panel having

[00:56:18] a 10 year old that's seen bits and

[00:56:20] pieces of some of the movies but

[00:56:21] doesn't really

[00:56:22] recollect what order would you make

[00:56:25] him watch obviously the last three

[00:56:28] are the last three but would you do

[00:56:30] the original trilogy first and then

[00:56:32] go backwards like the way we watch it

[00:56:33] i don't think i would go episode one

[00:56:35] i think my kids started watching

[00:56:37] yeah like they started watching the

[00:56:40] first prequels you know the prequel

[00:56:42] ones and to this day i think they

[00:56:44] like those movies more

[00:56:46] um and i think they you know they it's

[00:56:48] not they didn't like what we call the

[00:56:49] original trilogy

[00:56:51] but i think they kind of and it makes

[00:56:52] sense if you if they're all old to you

[00:56:54] if you're a kid anyway and they're all

[00:56:55] old like might as well start

[00:56:57] chronologically and i just don't know

[00:56:59] if i could sit through attack of the

[00:57:00] clones

[00:57:01] well that is the worst one of those

[00:57:03] prequels the attack of the clones

[00:57:05] it's like hilarious the uh you think

[00:57:07] attack of the clones is worse than

[00:57:09] than phantom menace that's it's tough

[00:57:11] call they're pretty bad both of them

[00:57:13] yeah but you know you got at least you

[00:57:14] got liam niesen i kind of liked him

[00:57:17] uh you got darth maul he was kind of

[00:57:19] cool sink your teeth into that

[00:57:21] attack of the clones i mean even like

[00:57:23] the whole big battle scene at the end

[00:57:25] is so cg'd

[00:57:27] it's rough it's bad to watch it's

[00:57:28] really hard to watch that you know

[00:57:30] bouncing around yoda is like kind of

[00:57:33] it's ever seen like the

[00:57:35] remakes or i don't know if they're

[00:57:36] deep fakes whatever people take that

[00:57:37] obi-wan Kenobi Darth Vader scene

[00:57:39] from episode four and just like

[00:57:41] recreated with today's technology like

[00:57:44] how they fight and they kick and it's

[00:57:45] all a little bit more martial arts with

[00:57:48] basically those two old guys that were

[00:57:50] swinging rooms at each other

[00:57:51] you ever seen that no some of the

[00:57:53] people that put this together like boy

[00:57:54] they're just super talented or got a

[00:57:56] lot of time in their hands or both

[00:57:57] but the fight scene they re-

[00:57:59] engineered it and it's like everything

[00:58:00] i always wanted star wars to be

[00:58:02] because you know it was made a long

[00:58:03] time ago things yes they went

[00:58:05] didn't make as good movies

[00:58:07] in regards to that type of stuff and

[00:58:08] he just had like a weird theory he

[00:58:10] decided they was all going to be like

[00:58:12] uh like samurai fight you know like like

[00:58:14] a samurai fight he was made based on

[00:58:17] all that stuff off like old kurosawa

[00:58:19] movies apparently or something yeah and

[00:58:21] those those fights are really quick

[00:58:23] there's like one one blow two blows

[00:58:25] that's it then like they're not like

[00:58:28] the errol flinn kind of sword

[00:58:29] fighting up and down this set kind

[00:58:31] of thing right like the last fight

[00:58:32] scene in the obi-wan series

[00:58:34] yeah i mean darth vader it's yeah

[00:58:36] you all the force moves they put it

[00:58:37] all itself it's it's dramatically

[00:58:39] better yeah definitely and they've

[00:58:41] and that's the only shitty thing is

[00:58:43] that the original ones are so dated

[00:58:45] that but they're they're still

[00:58:46] fantastic though i mean uh they're so

[00:58:49] i i if i was going back to watch

[00:58:52] anything like i would probably watch

[00:58:55] i would definitely skip attack of the

[00:58:57] clones and phantom menace i can't

[00:58:59] deal with them can't deal with the

[00:59:00] kids there's a little kid that plays

[00:59:02] anakin and phantom menace and

[00:59:03] fucking the me said jar jar binks

[00:59:05] jar jar right uh and i i cannot

[00:59:08] handle the fucking cheesy ass love

[00:59:10] story in attack of the clones he was

[00:59:12] asking about his kids though and like

[00:59:14] the kids don't seem to mind that shit

[00:59:16] as much as us you know like well i

[00:59:19] i don't think my kids really were

[00:59:21] as hate like i also jar jar as i

[00:59:25] mean you maybe not with jar jar but

[00:59:27] the love scenes like if you look at

[00:59:29] like it's such a joke like yeah the

[00:59:31] the love interest in empire strikes

[00:59:33] back leia and han right it takes

[00:59:35] takes place amongst chaos right so

[00:59:38] like they're they're they're in this

[00:59:39] really high tension situation the whole

[00:59:42] movie and they kind of have this

[00:59:44] rapport and they end up falling in

[00:59:45] love and it that was kind of organic

[00:59:48] and cool this whole let's take

[00:59:51] fucking padme and anakin and put

[00:59:53] them into every cheesy um you know

[00:59:56] cliche rolling around now they're

[00:59:58] now they're rolling in the field

[01:00:00] you're by the water fall now and

[01:00:03] and it was just so disgustingly bad

[01:00:06] making her like the older princess

[01:00:07] i got this creepy babysitter vibe like

[01:00:09] maybe i would babysitter rolling down

[01:00:11] a hill that works for me just weird

[01:00:14] yeah maybe it was one of george

[01:00:15] lucas's like fetishes the extra thing

[01:00:17] for his babysitter

[01:00:18] yep he had he had the best

[01:00:20] opportunity to kind of

[01:00:23] really kind of hone in on what he

[01:00:24] wanted to do with phantom menace

[01:00:26] and like right from the start

[01:00:27] made some really bad errors i think

[01:00:29] phantom menace's biggest problem

[01:00:30] was it was the first time that there

[01:00:32] was ever a full cgi character in a

[01:00:34] movie and i think his biggest thing

[01:00:36] was i'm gonna show everyone just how

[01:00:38] big my dick is and we're gonna have

[01:00:41] this full-on cg character

[01:00:43] no it doesn't matter how racist we make

[01:00:45] them or how terrible we make them it's

[01:00:47] just gonna be this full

[01:00:48] and then i think he just went

[01:00:50] completely overboard with a pretty bad

[01:00:52] story too

[01:00:53] like star war fans i don't think

[01:00:54] we're really waiting to sit down

[01:00:56] hunker down and start

[01:00:57] talking about the political divisions

[01:00:59] between the separatists and the

[01:01:00] fucking you know we got all

[01:01:02] political it looks like come on man

[01:01:03] yeah the trade union

[01:01:05] glory it's crazy chris oh god and i

[01:01:08] mean it was so bad that he even went

[01:01:09] from pure cgi yoda back to a puppet by

[01:01:12] like revenge of the sith

[01:01:13] yeah you know at least it looked more

[01:01:15] like a puppet although that first

[01:01:17] puppet they used in phantom menace

[01:01:19] was terrifying like what happened to

[01:01:20] the one that was left over from uh

[01:01:22] yeah the jedi exactly that was much

[01:01:24] better that one

[01:01:25] that looked like uh i don't know

[01:01:27] something of a john carpenter movie

[01:01:28] was horrible

[01:01:29] i'm with you but check out uh if you

[01:01:33] seriously i would definitely watch

[01:01:34] rebels and yeah

[01:01:35] attack trinity is doing a whole series

[01:01:37] for star wars too right

[01:01:38] you know uh what's her name carianne

[01:01:40] monster whatever yeah she's doing a

[01:01:42] i don't know much about that i just

[01:01:43] saw a quick ad i'm like i don't know

[01:01:45] there's jedi or something

[01:01:47] and daisy ridley's new movies coming

[01:01:48] out soon and really

[01:01:50] yeah the new jedi order so that

[01:01:52] should be cool

[01:01:52] tony have you guys seen terrifying

[01:01:55] have any of you guys seen the

[01:01:55] terrifying movies what's that

[01:01:57] with the art i've heard of them

[01:01:59] i've heard of their the guys they

[01:02:00] are awesome man yeah but telling you

[01:02:02] actually would

[01:02:02] there's they do a third one now i know

[01:02:05] savini is going to be in tom savini but

[01:02:06] they're seriously like

[01:02:08] you know we think of like jason and

[01:02:09] freddy and all that but this this new

[01:02:11] character man he's the best in like

[01:02:12] 20 years this clown

[01:02:14] doesn't speak total mime but like

[01:02:16] just totally fucked up movie but

[01:02:18] just

[01:02:18] totally 80s totally slasher even the

[01:02:20] everything from the music in the

[01:02:21] movies is a total setting but i

[01:02:23] definitely

[01:02:24] i know i don't know about the new

[01:02:25] star wars i do like the original

[01:02:26] three as a kid

[01:02:27] but yeah that was your thing right

[01:02:28] you like the original after i saw that

[01:02:30] what was the phantom i just

[01:02:31] couldn't watch it anymore

[01:02:33] that binks character i just lost it i

[01:02:34] just didn't go back

[01:02:35] it was horrible yeah yeah that was

[01:02:37] rough yeah

[01:02:38] art to clown terrifying definitely

[01:02:40] checking out

[01:02:41] all right terrifying i think on that

[01:02:42] note we're going to wrap it up

[01:02:43] and uh go enjoy our memorial day and

[01:02:46] hopefully

[01:02:47] florida can get their shit back on

[01:02:49] track

[01:02:50] seriously yeah let's go cats and

[01:02:52] wherever you're checking us out

[01:02:54] don't make us go into protection

[01:02:55] hiding for the next season

[01:02:57] dude seriously there's nothing worse

[01:02:59] right there's gonna be awful

[01:03:01] put a stop to this you know and and

[01:03:03] let's make this a fucking move like

[01:03:05] let's make a trade already let's get a

[01:03:06] goalie let's start doing something

[01:03:08] uh you know the game hunting time

[01:03:11] yeah i couldn't stand seeing those

[01:03:12] guys on tv last night celebrating out

[01:03:13] in those fields like when i get

[01:03:15] they were showing the

[01:03:15] i don't know on the broadcast

[01:03:17] national ranger fit i was just like

[01:03:18] oh my god as soon as the goal was

[01:03:21] scored

[01:03:22] i clicked off i i i'm not gonna

[01:03:25] watch that

[01:03:25] bullshit there is no god shut it off

[01:03:28] yeah i don't get it man i don't

[01:03:30] get this team is not supposed to be

[01:03:31] this good

[01:03:32] they really weren't and yep next

[01:03:35] home games next year rangers devils

[01:03:37] it's gonna go back to

[01:03:39] like 60 40 ranger fans it really is

[01:03:42] gonna be terrible but

[01:03:43] i think that's the thing watching them

[01:03:45] you know win is it sucks but then

[01:03:47] you think about the implications

[01:03:50] yeah and i really was hoping that

[01:03:52] we'd win another one before they did

[01:03:53] so

[01:03:55] fingers crossed they still got two

[01:03:57] more rounds to win so

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[01:04:06] happy memorial day for everyone who is

[01:04:09] celebrating for dan tony bobby i'm

[01:04:11] chris

[01:04:11] we are the uncle puckers and we will

[01:04:13] see you let me see you

[01:04:15] my mouth is out it's over johnny

[01:04:24] it's over