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[00:00:10] Hey everyone, Mr. Della here's Danny Dannick, a three-time Stanley Cup Champion of New Jersey Devils and you're listening to the Uncle Puckers in Jersey Devils podcast with Chris Dan Bobby and Tommy, The Uncle Puckers, let's go Devils! Yeah! Oh, there it is. Thank you, this.

[00:00:40] Yes Vince, just fired, Lundy. We are the Uncle Puckers Bobby Dan and Chris. What's up boys? How's everybody doing? So, a brave new day. Yes. It is something there are changes of foot amongst the New Jersey Devils organization

[00:00:55] and we're going to try and talk about all of this. So, I mean, what do you guys think when you got the news yesterday that Tom Fitzgerald has finally done something in Fire at Lundy Rough? Didn't come out of left field, right? Yes, we're driving. Not surprised, definitely.

[00:01:10] Definitely. Surprise, it happened this late to be honest. I know. We really should have happened a couple of months ago, at least a, at least a month ago. You know, I just, I'm telling you and I were talking, what's that?

[00:01:25] Tony and I were talking today on the Instagram Live that we did and you know, to me it's kind of like Fitzgerald now is scrambling, right? Like he's trying to, you know, he's looking like an idiot when it comes to the

[00:01:42] marks to remove, you know, show to Adam when they, when the deal was apparently agreed upon and then he nickels and dimes in the deal instead. And now we don't know if we're getting them.

[00:01:54] And, you know, basically he seems like he's just calling any team that has a goalie. And we need one. Can you give us one? Well, it'll take years and see what happens. I mean, I do think the marks from things is going to happen.

[00:02:07] But he should have been here already for a couple of weeks. So it's, it's interesting and I'm curious what you guys think of the whole thing and where do you think it's just going to move forward with Travis Green now?

[00:02:19] Yeah, I still don't know if we're pulling any more levers here. You would think, okay, late, but why would he do it at all if he had no intention on, of going for marks, drummer, making other significant moves?

[00:02:33] On the other hand, I don't know just because the timing being so late, it does have a sense of the best hour for this move and for all these moves have passed. You know, we're looking like a broken desperate team right now.

[00:02:48] Now, it can seem that way when you realize that we have so many games left to go, it's not quite that way. So there's no reason to be completely, you know, rule out the possibility that this is,

[00:03:00] he's really going to go for it here, but he might not always get what he wants here too. And it does seem like there were, there was a time where he could have had marksroom. I don't know what you guys were hearing.

[00:03:11] I was reading things like he was reticent to package. Remember sir in there and that it was almost done with that? Well, your thoughts on that, guys. I didn't hear anything about the package.

[00:03:23] I just heard about it was all, the holdup was the money retention that apparently Fitzgerald wanted Calgary to hold some of Markstrom's money. Calgary didn't want to do that and that's what I heard the deal went that about.

[00:03:36] It could have been for a multitude of things, but to me, the money thing doesn't make any sense. You have your nine million dollars of LTIR money that come, if you don't make it the game 83, you don't get that money like that's it. It's gone after game 82.

[00:03:52] Actually, it's gone after Friday, right? Like you're not going to use it after the trade deadline. So you have to use it. So I didn't understand the nickel and diamond over a few bucks to Markstrom, a few million

[00:04:03] dollars when you had nine to play with unless there was a series of things that Fitzgerald wanted to do and needed kind of all these pieces to fall in the place to get maybe two or three guys and that kind of off-belt through or two.

[00:04:16] So I don't know. I mean, it could have been the Mercer thing and now basically it sounds like he's telling Calgary, whatever you guys want, we just want Markstrom here. Sounds like it was probably part of the whole package. There's so many moving parts within it.

[00:04:30] I'm sure it was multiple player, multiple money. So he would probably be something along the lines of we wanted to retain the money because of the person you're asking for and if you're not going to retain some, then let's change

[00:04:41] that person to person be or who knows exactly. We don't know everything we hear is all but it does seem like from most people that hang up one where the other was pretty much just the money.

[00:04:53] So that's very unfortunate and I think the deal is going to get done. So why? I do. I think he will be here by Friday. This apparently, these next two days mean a lot specifically to fully.

[00:05:09] My understanding for listening to a couple of press conferences today is that if we win the two or maybe at least show some good life, maybe three out of four points, it may be he's not going anywhere.

[00:05:20] If we shit the bed, I think he's as good as gone, take another pick kind of thing. As far as Marksson might just think that's a separate deal and I think I still feel like

[00:05:32] Fitzgerald is going to try to say face now and still try to salvage the season. What he did today, if anybody watched the press conference, is he won the human element side of it? He talked like you should about these are people, good relationships, good hockey man,

[00:05:51] all that kind of stuff. But he failed miserably at the business part of it. He came off to me shaky when pressed on a couple of questions. First of all, it should have been earlier. That's number one. Five games, ten games, anything.

[00:06:08] He was steadfast that this was the week he wanted to make the decision. So he says and that trip was a big part of it. He was questioned about Michael McLeod signing and he was.

[00:06:21] And if he had an enoulage of it and he said, no, we didn't basically said, we contact the league and everything and the advice we got was business as usual. So that's why we went ahead and still signed the players but he sounded shaky on that.

[00:06:37] He made some, those are these lines. Roodle mistakes as far as I'm concerned. He didn't want to talk bad about the goalies per se because he knows they're listening but at the same time had to say, of course we need to do better at goalie and he's tenderly.

[00:06:53] Bet on the team goalie team we have. And he was not seriously seeking until recently. He did not go after anybody this summer, such a. So if he's going to rag on the goalies, it's kind of a boomerang. Yes.

[00:07:07] But he was all these things that I'm summarizing for you were actually direct questions from the press and here's where he really lost me as somebody who's trying to write the ship managerially.

[00:07:19] He was asked point blank about Hultus use or misuse, however you want to look at it. And he flat out said his play will dictate his time. He's not having a good year. He has to be way better. That's not curious.

[00:07:34] That is very curious because not only is that maybe true to the analytics of what he's looking at, that is not what you say in this press conference. If he's one of your trade ships going in, you say hey, he's a young kid.

[00:07:47] We're trying to work a man, teach him a few things. He literally called him out and him only. And then of course, that the team's underperforming and go always. He grouped people into these. What do you think you're doing? What do you think you're doing specifically?

[00:08:01] You're not going to hate him. And then now you see Fitzgerald kind of mishandling to the detriment of the business side, which I get your point Bob. But like you see Fitzgerald have some contempt for him. What is it about Hultus? Is it his agent?

[00:08:13] Is it something about him? We don't know. They say he's not playing well. He's not hard on the board. He's turned the puck so over. Like all those little things apparently. Five other guys I put in front of those, I'm not saying Hultus is perfect.

[00:08:25] I'm just saying that. Five other guys have been more guilty of those things. I also think that you can make the argument that Hultus has been misused all year. And you're not going to get the stellar play, or at least the play that you want from

[00:08:40] him if he is being misused. The thing I will say about Hultus, I found that this guy has done everything that he has been told to do. He seems like a dude that's working really hard. He says all the right things. They look.

[00:08:55] I'm just trying to do my best for Lindy. I'm trying to increase my ice time. And whenever I'm out there trying to be effective, and he doesn't complain, he doesn't piss him on at least not to the media. And I don't know what it is.

[00:09:09] It's like classic body, bench minor. He's the guy serving it. I think you have to do something personal. It's something personal. It seems like you might have like shit talk to get. Maybe if it's Gerald is just very aware of what Lindy's problems with him were.

[00:09:27] He felt like he was against Lindy in the locker room. But all those things are all just suppositions and stuff. I don't know. I came out of root. That's been said to say those things, right? Well, he said we all know that we're in school.

[00:09:41] We could put him out there to score, but scoring is not our problem. Actually, I could think of a couple of weeks period where scoring was definitely our problem when he was still buried in the fourth line, not up there. Again, occasionally we'd see it.

[00:09:53] Remember like end of the game, like Hultus again, a shop because he can score. And that implies it's his defense that's the problem. That's costing it, right? Well, not really. There's a bunch of other guys who have been really poor on defense when he counted.

[00:10:05] Some guys who you look to be leaders and are not rookies or, you know. I mean, as a total train wreck, as far as it comes out, it's Hultus. There's no way this kid is going to become what he's supposed to become right now in our organization.

[00:10:17] He's almost better off now for sure going somewhere else. I've never seen such a lack of confidence in a guy where you're going to publicly point him out when instead of just saying, hey, he's a younger guy. He just makes some mistakes.

[00:10:28] We're going to try to work his way up, you know, as he grows with the game. He literally said he's not having a good year. Like he shot that reporter down. Isn't he second in the team on 515 goals? Yeah. Yeah, you know, like seriously.

[00:10:40] I'm not saying he's a second coming, but he has not been the main problem on this team. No, that's for sure. Because it doesn't have enough ice time. I don't think to be the main problem on this team.

[00:10:51] And you know, to say our problem isn't scoring well when you throw 50 shots on Anaheim and you only get three and then other than Timo 15 seconds into the game on Sunday, we don't score another goal. Like yeah, we are problems are very become one of our problems. Yeah.

[00:11:09] I will say like Travis Green at least has seen like he's making some changes. Kirish Mid is starting tonight. When he was asked about it, he said, I like my goal is to stop pucks. And basically saying that's not what Nico does is doing.

[00:11:24] And Shimon Nimwich is a scratch tonight. He is not putting Nimwich in the lineup for whatever reason he has, that he wants to get more of our, I guess, more veteran defenseman in there. I don't know who's going to be in his spot.

[00:11:38] Maybe Smith maybe, I don't know if Amanda Stein has her lineup that she does. What do we got? Yeah, the lines will put up with Seagunthal and Marino, Ball Smith, and Hugh's Miller. Okay. All right. And what else?

[00:11:56] Our fourth line, fourth line, McDermott on left, no second in middle holds on the right. Hugh just wants to play a left wing, Hall of Centering on. And Myers up the top. What do you think of the Travis Green move?

[00:12:11] I mean, I don't know how many moves were left. This seems desperate about it is that I don't, I mean, I think that you would have had somebody lined up if you were going to do with this late and move them in.

[00:12:26] And maybe that's coming in a couple days. But if not, this is really like a very weak move on the part of its job. And it doesn't, I don't think it's going to kind of move this kind of inspire confidence from the team.

[00:12:37] Now, I hope they go out tonight and rally and play a totally different game. And that's not our own possibility. I mean, it does look like you're putting in. It reminds me of a couple years ago with it, what was the name, Azure Dean, right?

[00:12:50] It just thrown in there and like, let's hope for the best. But it was not a strong move from the front office. This kind of reeks of that. And I have real reservations that even with the Markster move that you're going to see this

[00:13:02] team come around under Travis Green's tutelage. You know, I don't see it. I don't know. I agree. I don't think Travis Green is the answer, but at the same time, I completely understand why you had to move on from lending rough. We all know that.

[00:13:16] And I think another reason, too, is coming off of this, like eventually the questions then become Tom Fitzgerald's job. He likes job men becomes questionable. So before you even get there, you of course, you have to sacrifice the coach.

[00:13:30] And also, I know that Tom Fitzgerald genuinely respects and likes Lindy rough and appreciates what Lindy rough has done for this team over three and three quarter seasons. So what that being said, you know full well. They went out tonight.

[00:13:45] Lindy rough behind the bench and they play the way they played all season long and they lose five one or they're down three nothing in the first. You know the fire. Lindy chance are going to start. And it's going to be 16,000 strong every home game.

[00:13:58] You get behind this is what's going to happen. I think a big part of it, too, is I don't need to deal with this stuff. Lindy rough doesn't need to deal with this stuff. It's worn.

[00:14:07] The guys in that locker room though have to take accountability for a simple fact that they got their coach fired. Now I don't agree with a lot of shit that Lindy rough did. I don't think Lindy rough was the right guy for this team, but that doesn't excuse

[00:14:20] how this team has played a lot of the time. Well, and the lack of heart and the lack of motivation, the lack of compete does a guy who's been on the bench for all 61 games now just moving into the head coaching position. Does he change that?

[00:14:34] Does he move that needle? I think this is my take on what Dan mentioned about him coming in. I think the reason it's him is because he knows the system enough where he can tweak it without coming in completely fresh.

[00:14:48] I think in Fitzgerald's mind, this is simply comes down to you. I'll tell you what. There's this temple is broken. This is not a tweaking fix system. The last game is the epitome of this system, grinding to a halt. Right. Horrible team defense. Horrible lack of offensive output.

[00:15:07] People just misuse. I feel like what you needed was a clean break. So much desperation, it makes me wonder if this move was prompted by ownership. Look, somebody in there or you're going to be on the bench yourself. I want Lendi gone.

[00:15:24] I don't know how to move happens if this is what if we're ever know about that. That seemed like it made just as much sense to me as Fitzgerald being on the Lendi trained so long before getting off.

[00:15:36] I think when I'm trying to say in the eyes of management, I think it simply comes down to the fact that he thinks this dog can bark louder and get the players to not play like they have been.

[00:15:47] To have the urgency to have the push to be worried about their ice time or whatever it is. You know what I mean? Just a little bit more of a bold dog back there. I think that's it.

[00:15:55] Something over the course of the summer from this last year, the entire season, the spring, the playoffs to the 61 games that we've had this year. Something has completely changed in everything that we do on the ice as far as our system, whatever.

[00:16:11] We do not like we are just a we look for goals off of the rush. That's it. We do not for check. We don't do the dump and chase. We go, you know, this is a big reason why our defense is constantly getting caught flat

[00:16:25] footed is because we don't sustain any kind of offensive. Zero cycle. You can't call offensive. You have a couple of guys that's one of the net. So once that initial rush gets tamped out by the opposition, they're going the other

[00:16:40] way and now our defense is running the quick transition trying to get back instead of, you know, ozone coverage which they should be doing, which every other team in the NHL does better than us. We're just not a good team system wise.

[00:16:53] I don't know how you fix that. So moving guys around, bringing other people in to new coach. I don't know. The, what I'm hoping is that maybe Travis Green was pounding the table for some changes

[00:17:07] this year that we're not getting done and that maybe he will implement these things and we'll get a better output. But a lot of it's going to be said tonight. You know, if we go out and play the way we've played pretty much all year and we lose

[00:17:20] this game without any fire without any compete, then it doesn't matter who the hell is coaching this team. This team is just going to be a good team. You can't keep up with the team. To show us that fire.

[00:17:29] Yeah, when you're going to get maybe the worst possible opponent right now, they're really good. You know that you could do this with. So it's maybe in that sense the best possible test.

[00:17:37] I don't know how much you guys have been seeing about this and I hear from you that you would probably disagree around across one or two at one in particular that is claiming that we should be sellers at this point to can the season and turn into sellers.

[00:17:51] I just think about that. I disagree and I'll tell you why I disagree because I don't think the deficiencies as this team are going to be made up with draft picks or prospects. We have enough of those.

[00:18:02] You look for a gold tender, whether it's marks from this year or marks from in the summer or a suem in in the summer, a true number one. Okay? The one piece of the one thing on the laundry list that did not get done was a gold tender.

[00:18:18] We could have had Connor Hallabak who's going to be probably playing for a business year and now you could have had marks from hopefully we can still do it. But that's first off, you need a true number one.

[00:18:28] Then you need to get a little bit more grit on the blue line, a little more size on the blue line and you can find those guys in preagency. So to sell what are you selling?

[00:18:39] That just means to me that you don't believe in the core of this team and that core being my or hues hues hues your merzer rat. That's the core. I'll tell you the counter argument, I came across in with Nova Sinski's article is claiming

[00:18:56] that you're going to have more to pick from than just marks from. You're going to have sorrows or all mark and this is a big baby easy thrown out there. So that's why I'm kind of more with you but in other words let's take the greater argument

[00:19:10] which is look your season, you might squeak in maybe but at what costs versus lower cost and having your shit together game one next year. You know, it's not the reality that a fan doesn't want to hear about the fan of me doesn't like that.

[00:19:28] I just don't have to be a seller to get the pieces you need and if they've identified Jacob marks from as their guy, if they really feel like they're he's the best fit for this

[00:19:41] club then I don't give a shit when you get them you just go and get them you do what about you mentioned swamin wouldn't you rather have him well I meant I mean all mark is probably the guy they would be moving.

[00:19:52] Swamin I'm sorry if I said swamin it was mistake I mean. No I hear you but if it's swamin you do whatever you can I'm fine what we're going this year if by some you know way you can actually get Jeremy Swamin under his term to our

[00:20:08] team but that's not gonna happen. Boston's not moving on from them they will move on from Linus all mark most likely now if I had to pick between Jacob marks from her Linus all mark I want Jacob marks from

[00:20:18] yeah so with that being said but I would be fine with these are one of course we don't have a goalie. But I just think that you know to say that we should be sellers right now I don't know

[00:20:30] I mean I would maybe I think these like you said these next couple of games before the trade deadline are really going to tell because yeah because the other important factor is the coaching right yeah so Travis Green has this room and he does put it it doesn't

[00:20:44] like tweak a broken system he puts in his system in place and we're rolling okay do I get it we are not sellers we are buyers let's let's make it happen and let's try to get

[00:20:54] in because we got something we can believe in but you know like you said it's going to reveal itself and that really like first three four maybe five games yeah yeah I think by the end of the

[00:21:04] weekend we're gonna have a good idea at the end of the weekend you know you have three good teams coming into your building with Florida the blues and the hurricanes if you don't

[00:21:15] win at least two the next three you're you're pretty much done and none of this matters but there is precedent here for a team in the devil's position to make the playoffs and we just have

[00:21:27] to go back to last season with 21 games left last year to Florida Panthers had 64 points right now the New Jersey Devils are 64 points with 21 games left they went on a run and they

[00:21:38] tweaked into that second wild card and we all know what happened with Florida last year to you know make it to the cup final and they haven't missed to beat yet all year they had grit and they had

[00:21:48] bob and you know that was a big part of it right not this bob it would have been really lucky to have this bob they'd be able to put it up a couple of valuable but we we are not gonna trade you

[00:22:00] thank you yeah I don't want to leave anymore yeah um I like your precedent there is still 26% of the season left and I know it when you say it in 21 games it seems like

[00:22:13] it's over Johnny when you say it is over 25% it seems like you can legitimately do something the problem is what has always been they show they have never shown us the capability they could put

[00:22:24] together the type of run that will get to those points however if you're using last year's the model we have discussed it that'd be a 92 point to get in some people who say maybe in the 95-96

[00:22:35] getting we'll see you won't know that till then the year but again we do have two games in hand on the flyers if God forbid we can win those two if we can actually assume those are wins

[00:22:48] we're only four points behind them and then the miracle could happen they are playing slightly less than anywhere before but we need to play better we need not two at three three at a four

[00:23:00] and kind of constant the whole way through look it's five losses that's what it comes down to you could afford to lose five more games in regulation and maybe to squeak in but so you're looking

[00:23:14] at having to win 26 I mean I'm sorry Jesus Christ 16 of your last 21 games um I don't know if that's possible I know that Florida was there but like you said they had the grit they had Bob

[00:23:27] you know if we have Mark's room and this could McCamon whatever does that his name McCamon what am I saying it right to get that we have to do it make sure you know I would like

[00:23:38] to see him a little more than three minutes of ice time you know especially with the teams coming up like tonight he better be you know front and center for a lot of this physicality tonight

[00:23:49] because Florida is going to come and they're just right now Florida is just chomping at the bit they're looking at this team saying they're just what up on the rangers yesterday they're looking at this team right now going this team is in complete total disarray now we're going

[00:24:02] to try and come out and just punch us into the mouth over and over again we need this guy to step up physically I'm okay with some on them it's getting scratched tonight I'm okay with Brennan

[00:24:12] Smith being in there and then this is probably the toughest lineup we've had on the ice in two years you know what Smith and how could that be yeah

[00:24:23] I think NEMIC it's just a break right this is a young kid who hasn't not played since he came up he's great he's going to be way better than we'll see you now there's really nothing wrong with it

[00:24:35] the only thing that just gives me pause is that to do that you know we have to put Smith on defense which to me is obviously still liability I'd almost be more comfortable with a taco was still up here

[00:24:46] slide him in instead to give NEMIC the reprieve but I don't at first it caught me as one of those things I'm like oh here we go green comes in this is the move you're making and then I sat on it for

[00:24:57] a minute and like this one's not the end of the world the problem for me is that it does put Smith in a defensive role and I just you know I could see that burn in us tonight but then again

[00:25:07] absolutely like you guys just mentioned this is the toughest lineup we've had all year maybe Smith's going to help us turn this around tonight I don't know that's what I'm hoping happens

[00:25:15] because yeah I mean there's just so much that the team needs and I just I do I think that you can't lump Lindy rough and to all the blame on him because I do think that Tom Fitzgerald shares

[00:25:27] an equal amount and I think the players on this team share an equal amount but like you said you're not fire in the general manager before you fire in the coach and you're not fire in 20

[00:25:36] players or trading 20 players so Lindy rough was the sacrificial lamb here and I don't know I'm real curious of how it's going over in the locker room that's what I'm curious like I haven't seen or

[00:25:46] heard anything how are these guys feeling right now is there like a sense of relief is there you know the thing that you say like that makes me nervous about Travis Green like Travis Green was running

[00:25:58] our powerplay all year yeah our powerplay's garbage we had the most predictable got to start out great but given that it started out as like amazing but that lasted 15 games or so and then

[00:26:09] I thought that up because he point blank referenced in his press conference that he likes our powerplay he still believes in it he believes the right five people are on it it's just an

[00:26:23] ex-ebsan flows of the season and I had a big problem with this because there's EBSAN flows and then there's a downright disaster for last couple months there historically bad right now so it's still like you're seriously thinking that not even a small tweak not even one person change

[00:26:40] on that could do anything he is going to start pulling back on the powerplay you know obviously focusing more on head coaching duties but he was very comfortable with our powerplay and I just

[00:26:52] found that to be very odd I think it's odd and you know watch our powerplay tonight the first powerplay we get right it'll be you know Luke quarterback in it coming up you know do that same drop pass

[00:27:03] back to jack and jack will come up to the red line he'll throw it over to the right side it's a folly and then he'll get crushed behind the boards and the pucks out of his own that's our

[00:27:12] powerplay when we do get it set up we don't take shots we just you know people have been for the pretty good guy in front of that and shoot from the point yeah I mean I understand on paper

[00:27:24] those are the top five guys you want on there sure I get it but then you got to look at the last two months and what do we we're at 5% at one point yeah I think we picked it up a little bit

[00:27:33] instead of right that is ridiculous I would have at least swapped out the brat for myer in that first in the first powerplay unit I would have just tried it you know let's put the big guy in front

[00:27:45] put him in the bumper let's see what happens with you know that and you know it does two things changes up that first powerplay you can put myer on the right side it also gives a new look to the

[00:27:56] second powerplay yep I mean it's I'm not no one saying that would be the way you'd have to do at the rest of the year but don't tell me you happy with our powerplay when that's a two months

[00:28:07] segment of suck you know I just think for the first time that you know these guys are out there talking I mean I get that driver screen is not going to go out there and bash his own powerplay as the coach

[00:28:17] I understand that you know maybe you just say yeah we still have some tweaking to do and you know there are some ways that we can get better and we're going to work on that and maybe like to

[00:28:29] hey I don't want to be that guy that you know watches the game and constantly screams shoot shoot shoot because they're on a powerplay there's usually a legitimate reason why they're not shoot

[00:28:37] shoot shooting at that particular time this powerplay is shoot I mean it's just pretty simple I mean look at the L-A game how many times did they have lanes to shoot that puck on goal and they went

[00:28:49] for a pass a pass that you know a lot of the times there was no way that pass was making it to the guy you know with a little bit of a rink wide passes through traffic through sticks like just shoot the

[00:29:01] puck so it that to me is a confidence thing that's like it goes all the way down the line up that these guys don't have confidence now he did reference that to oh yes yeah so maybe

[00:29:14] he does feel it's part of his job to give them the confidence to go out in executed properly today he said he did say most of the right things it's just the way he spoke of the powerplay again

[00:29:24] just kind of just sounded off to me if you shouldn't be that you know happy about it you should address it like you just said yes something needs to change we got to just figure it out work a

[00:29:34] little harder whatever it is don't say you love your powerplay if a pieces are there for this team they really are the pieces are there for them to go on a run but until it happens I just this would

[00:29:47] be the biggest game I mean if they can go out and beat Florida in regulation and get two points off of them I think that that would go a very long way in getting this team believing in

[00:29:59] whatever is coming next and hopefully we just said that a bunch of times right but when you really look at it in this context with the coach being fired and pretty much the hardest game

[00:30:10] you could put on the schedule for new coach to win it you know anything to spark them and get them roll and get the good feelings going we saw what could happen with this very core

[00:30:22] when they think everything's going well yeah you know now I I tell you who do you expect a lot a big game from tonight I expect a big game from the captain tonight I do think that Nico this is

[00:30:36] the time now things are you know you have a lot of unrest in that locker room and guys don't know if they are getting traded if guys are coming in and now one of our top defenseman is being

[00:30:47] scratched and our backup bully is starting and we got our head coach fired what would be like kind of the easiest way to just lower the temperature and get them to play hockey would be

[00:31:00] Nico just kind of going out there playing the way he plays get a good deal and he usually turns in a strong performance you know if he doesn't end up in the score she's usually working hard

[00:31:13] and I get it you know that would this would be the time but I don't think that alone is going to be able to change this you know I mean I would like to see you know

[00:31:25] my or use you know step into what they can be on the steep brad I feel like a fool even mentioning him because he never comes through when you need him but that would be huge any of those

[00:31:38] I'm I'm over just regret yeah and whatever happens this off season I do think we've talked about the big move that something has to get done to get kind of a guy in here like a Brady Kachak type of

[00:31:51] player maybe not him necessarily but if you have to move a big name I'm totally okay with Bracoing I do not like Brad on this team I don't think he offers much at all he's you know a heck

[00:32:05] of a skater he's a heck of a playmaker but he just does not do enough on this team like when Jack was out you just got paid a shitload of money and a lot of term like you should have been carrying this team

[00:32:17] or I'm sorry I was kind of surprised but he's always been a fair weather player he's that guy to like increase your two goal lead to a three goal lead right and that's great but that's not what we need them for

[00:32:29] that's not what we need it on this team we need to yes to come in so like to answer Chris is question unlike the person I'm gonna pick like Jasper Brad has no excuses as far as

[00:32:39] where he's being played and how he's being played it's everything up to his comfort zone it's everything the way he's always wanted it to me it's team of mire I think team of mires

[00:32:47] and go out there and say hey remember why you guys got me I'm gonna show you that now because I just feel like I mean how much of the season we'll see a third line guy it's just ridiculous like it

[00:32:58] it's never gonna change so this is enough for teams like there was a riff to be between what lindi rough wanted teamota do and what teamo wanted to do I think there was definitely some

[00:33:11] disconnect there you don't change a nine million dollar player just like you didn't change jack Hughes rough said jacks got to be jack he's literally said that got to let jack be jack

[00:33:21] and we get to the world of course getting a little better defensively all that kind of crap jack got to be jack well team sbt motu is actually your highest played followed you know this guy should be a wrecking ball run through the opposition doing whatever he wants

[00:33:33] on the side he prefers beyond like where's he playing tonight left wing with who he sure and to fully okay yeah I like that line that's not bad these got Hughes haul a brat I just you know again the Hughes thing on the wing I don't know

[00:33:54] even that line though like to me the haul of Hughes I mean yeah and a brat line like that's a small line like I wouldn't be surprised if they don't get anything going against Florida yeah um I don't

[00:34:06] with that I don't understand haul in the middle of those two species is my thing like that doesn't work for me but hey you know what am I I don't I'm not a coach well Travis Green must see something

[00:34:16] and what he likes about this I mean I don't know but it is going to be interesting and I'm real curious to hear what's falling in dannico have to say in the pregame

[00:34:25] have you heard anything from them yet well I just was listening to an interview with dannico on NHL network oh what a bigot my kid just kind of echoing a lot of what we're saying right now

[00:34:37] he got into the defoli situation and is like you know you don't really want to trade your leading scorer it's really difficult because you don't want to give up on the team you mentioned the

[00:34:47] same thing you know the goal is got to be a little better he was very uh very up on the fact that we're playing the Florida Panthers he said we do play better against harder teams and I think

[00:35:00] a little you know kind of a little bit of fear is good for you we did beat them the last time in their building we did yeah and I am still a firm believer that iron does sharpen iron I know it's

[00:35:10] saved overused koolishay but it's a cliche for a reason and I believe that having this harder schedule can be exactly what this team needs to get ready for the playoffs it's just once again

[00:35:21] it just always comes down to like they haven't felt they it's seen has a one more than three games in a row all year like I don't under the fact that they are still in striking distance is

[00:35:31] amazing to me and if they could pull this off and actually make the postseason I don't know man that's just that will just be crazy and that's why like when we were talking about the point

[00:35:41] again it games remaining you said something like five losses left and actually if you're talking about like a flyer schedule it's still more like a seven losses it's it's two out of three because that's that's me anticipating that the flyers aren't going to get more than 90

[00:35:55] do points either based on their schedule in a way their recent play is so you know call it a tie I don't know the tiebreaker right now and all that but you've been saying it's a whole time that's

[00:36:04] an easier path in than wild card one of these teams in the wild car race I feel like it's about to put on a you know six game winning streak and just totally put us in the dust with the flyers lead in the

[00:36:12] door open yeah they are and you can catch them and if they're still getting points it lost last night they still got a point and yet all and then all you get for your trouble is Caroline and her

[00:36:22] games in the first round right which could be a disaster your iron for sharpens iron yeah you know win round one hit the cup now let me just let you are a little shout out here to our hockey podcast network sponsors

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[00:38:04] and responsible gaming resources NHL and the NHL shield or register tray marks of the national hockey league copyright NHL 24 all rights reserved you guys watching anything good lately boy not really try to think the last thing i watched not much

[00:38:25] well did you watch true detective don't want to let joddy foster watching that right next one thing we did watch yes we did in new watching at Bobby i got maybe two episodes left i think i like it a lot

[00:38:37] yeah i didn't understand and i just wanted to see because you see is a good actress god saw the previous i went to look that up and uh i didn't realize there were three other unrelated

[00:38:46] series of their own but i had no interest in that i just wanted to see this one didn't know it was going to go in the direction way and but i'm very much enjoying it so you never saw any

[00:38:53] the true detective spot no i never i haven't had like hbl forever i only just got it because crystal me i can get the tnt games on it i've got to always and i got it's now i'm finding all this

[00:39:02] content and i'm right i think like that first season was the best so far but it was so good there's no it wasn't all supernatural right they could be anything they like some weird element

[00:39:12] and them but i wouldn't go so far as a state of supernatural right well the first the first season i thought was fantastic that was a moment what he had also in and Matthew McConaughey and then the second

[00:39:22] season i think i turned off after two or three episodes i think Vince Vaughan was the star at that one and it was pretty bad i don't remember yeah the dirt what's that why why yeah

[00:39:33] you say Vince Vaughan said well go right and then yeah a long time ago and in the third season was that the one would Steven Dorf uh yeah i guess remember i don't remember the third season that

[00:39:45] well i know i watched it i thought it was more norl in there or something i think i might had to go back and watch that again i know we were discussing this over here in our house and i

[00:39:56] i'm a little hazy on those two i remember that i kind of like them but nowhere near as much as the first season yeah and i would say the first season and then this season is the way that i

[00:40:05] will go this season was really good did you like this one day i did but i have some questions and i don't want to go into them right now till bot catches up uh and the thousands of people

[00:40:15] that listen to the podcast no we all caught up here last very bad american it was not really busy building something yeah but yeah like i have got some questions about it but you know what

[00:40:27] there were so many things i did like about it i did like a lot of performances i did like the whole like alaska night thing that's awesome yeah it was kind of cool it was like the whole show you're

[00:40:37] just like i have no idea what time it is like are they going out for breakfast is it dinner time is it overnight like what is it like on it was fun imagining how you live your life like that

[00:40:46] i can never live my life like that i don't know how people can live there i would like to try it for like two or three days worth just to see what effect it as on me i don't think it could be good because

[00:40:55] i know it's like i just want a bender it's like a rain or even sleeping i'm done but to do it for all that time maybe crazy yeah that's i would definitely not make it through one winter and then they

[00:41:05] got the summer thing which we might have talked about this before but like that's that sounds great but i think that's maybe worse or at least it's bad because no so no lack of sunlight for

[00:41:17] you know three days four days five days in a row you know especially if you're just going to live like an normal setting that's that's hard but at least you can have lines that you can pull down

[00:41:28] at night that's true get your house dark and you know at least try to like when there's no sun and i mean that does so much for your psyche i never did like the tanning bed thing but yeah

[00:41:39] i might try that if i lived if i live out there i would definitely get a tanning bed on my house i think you've ever been living in Alaska and i don't think that would be the same you know like

[00:41:49] that's not the same it's like more about a mental boost when you see the sun yeah yeah i try and then do it i'm trying another one too which is little tough for me right now it's the new

[00:41:59] Lincoln lawyer on that place the second season while i'm on the first season i like the first season i watched it i was a big fan of all the books so i'm up to date with all that i know all the

[00:42:12] characters so it's a little tough for me to jump into this one and because of the movie from like 20 years ago when i'm reading the books i always did picture mathy mechanic because that's

[00:42:21] really played Mickey so it was a little different uh take i do like it but it's a for some reason i actually retained a lot of the characters and all that from the book so it's just a really interesting

[00:42:33] parallel to watch the show yeah i haven't watched the second season Karen i watched the first one and it was i liked it it was uh it was fun and now i'm actually watching well the third season of the

[00:42:45] bad batch just got put out um which is really good i like that setting up a lot of stuff that you don't know about star wars until the last movie the rise of Skywalker like it's so much into

[00:42:57] the cloning and palpatine and all that okay so i haven't seen this so much that i've got to it all what time period is it takes place between which movies it takes place after if okay so it should take

[00:43:11] place after the revenge of the Sith and before a new hope so it's after the clone wars empire still running things um and the resistance has not been kind of like uh rubble right kind of like rubble

[00:43:26] kind of like rubble right i don't know what the time lane is as revenge yes such a yep uh so it's it's it's good though i mean the first couple of seasons the first two seasons i was like

[00:43:37] yeah it's all right it was but this season got a little bit darker deal with a little bit more storylines like more of encompassing the whole star wars universe that we know and it's it's pretty good

[00:43:50] so there's like four episodes out now so you guys can check that out and then i did finish watching i don't know why i watched it maybe because i'm still an idiot and like a little kid but i

[00:43:59] watched the new avatar on Netflix the new last airbender yeah how do you like that we're talking about watching that because avatar is huge in the south my kids love it okay if they like

[00:44:10] avatar then they're gonna love the new one is it good it was pretty good uh for live action i liked it uh because they might my kids did not like the live action movie so the one that goes and nice

[00:44:20] on a long mending down that was terrible yeah i didn't like that that was awful and even the anime cartoon i'm not a big fan of but i kind of dig the plot and i was i check it check out this

[00:44:31] uh new show that was out i thought the special effects were really good uh for a Netflix show i thought you know it was it was fun so yeah i think you guys alike it i mean again though like why i'm pushing

[00:44:43] 50 and i'm sitting in my living room by myself watching either cartoons or a live action animation that's whatever what also do you watch it so yeah what do i do i put the fucking news on and i get

[00:44:56] the press i think i'm worried about an election coming up and how many americans are gonna die you know in the next six months because of these two shitheads and it's like i just yeah i can't

[00:45:08] okay that's why i watch cartoons and garbage TV yeah and you know hopefully you're uptake that will uh decrease as doubles make playoffs but we'll see about that and let's see 21 games left

[00:45:22] tonight it starts the Travis green era is beginning tonight and uh it's got to be a dub man you got to win tonight it's like if they don't green means go be so demoralized like forget about it i fucking

[00:45:36] like that and that's in the episode still love it Dan green means go nice you're pretty good at this thanks so since we got a game that's starving in about 25 minutes or so we probably should

[00:45:49] wrap this up unless you guys have anything else you want to discuss on this fun episode i doesn't know and uh you're you're walking yet Dan yeah but you know i still need some

[00:46:01] assistance you know but i'm getting there no stairs um i can but i haven't i can do them painfully slowly kind of crawl up with your hands no in fact to crawling is something i shouldn't

[00:46:17] do no crawling yeah you don't want to if you ever get one of these done you don't want to bend your knee more than 90 degrees to your hip so you know you're even up to 90 you want to stay

[00:46:29] below 90 and then you work up to that over time otherwise you risk something called dislocation which is not funny well you look up to x-rays of a dislocated placement hip boy that's

[00:46:40] got to be painful so i'm doing everything they tell me to avoid that and that risk goes down as time goes by so you let it feel at that happen now when do you go back to work um i got to get

[00:46:52] more ambulatory so i gotta walk without any assistance and i think there's a shot somewhere between the two and four week mark that's going to depend um you know there's certain things i won't

[00:47:04] be able to do for even a little longer but you know you just go from there and you just build back and takes a little while they they really say you know like full healing depends you

[00:47:15] defend depends i define that you're talking somewhere between three months and one definition and more like a year or another so here would be getting back to your 100% of your lifestyle like you know exercising again and tread mills i'm not gonna know i can i can do

[00:47:34] a most of those things but and i reduced form right and so you know and even longer than a year you'll avoid certain things you'll probably avoid like squats and stuff if you got

[00:47:45] if you're somebody like scoob and you squat it's probably something you're going to avoid much longer than that maybe i might enjoy the voids squats now i do not squat anymore anything that

[00:47:55] has to be a bar on my back and meet getting on and coming back i know it looks like a do it on the sled and lay down i'm not doing it you know yeah you're you're part of with

[00:48:06] close to one eighty degrees there and i'm not supposed to do ninety now so that's out for a very long time but you know you can definitely resume normal life you know somewhere between two

[00:48:17] and three months i would assume for most people so that's where i'm gonna go for so we still have our summer beach you'll be around for that oh yeah i'm going to definitely

[00:48:26] and bobby what gym do you go to there i'm just curious so i used to go to a local family on gym that was a casualty of the pandemic i know i was between like Ellie fitness 24 hour gym and

[00:48:40] one of the wise and we got two wise actually we got one in the small burrow that we live in which didn't have much and then i went to this giant one and at first i just hated it but that's

[00:48:49] the one i went up signing with and it was the best decision i can make is they really put money into the equipment the floor is so big i got a lot of options so i'm actually

[00:48:59] very happy the gym element of the why i was like who would go to why i'm not lifting at the why you know for a fantastic facility it's kind of a hybrid between my old gym that was kind of a raw

[00:49:10] you know gym not not like a power lifter only gym but you know like kind of a strength focused gym and like the LA fitness it's kind of a nice blend of everything and the crowds good plus

[00:49:21] with me now work it from home i mean i go around lunch so it's basically it's the best you know i like any gym right now at new i started lifting at the why when i was like 21 or so

[00:49:32] when i i think of 22 we were living over at the condo then oh yeah so that was gym was on my way home for work when i was downtown i was like okay i just go to the why and i started there i was

[00:49:44] there for a couple years and i liked it and then i went over to the jersey shore which i loved and i was there forever yeah and then over to course of the last like five or six years i've kind

[00:49:54] of jumped around from gym to gym the one i was a part i was a member at the one that j- Dan and his wife were at that got closed down after that i i think that was the best i like that one

[00:50:05] i like that gym too it was one of the small place it 24 seven yeah that was a cool was one of those small gyms everyone has a key card i can get in and stuff you know but it

[00:50:16] was they had everything you needed um and then i was going to retro for a while and then i just switched and got all my family because my son was going to t-r fitness and he loved it so they were doing

[00:50:28] like a family specials like it's gonna be cheaper to just all four of us sign up there so that's where i'd been going now and i had a car and i shot one of the all day or 25 i figured what's called

[00:50:38] and it was so small it was cheaper though it was a little further away but what i couldn't stand is for every single piece of equipment you had to drag the bench over there was not one

[00:50:47] single one where the chair was always statically where it's supposed to be and i hate like set it up and you're like an inch to the left or an inch you have to write it just screws up everything and it

[00:50:56] was too much and then it was so small like you'd always be dragging it like through people working the middle of floor it wasn't like a giant open floor plan like i have now so i had a mix

[00:51:05] one you know first i was like i'm what am i doing i'm almost 50 i got it i should do this cheapest possible but then once i got in a couple new jams and i was really kind of bummed too because

[00:51:16] like i literally moved here in 2007 and then the next day i found the gym around the corner for me i just been there new everybody for you know all those years i was really kind of pissed

[00:51:26] but i think i was in front with you go to your gym even if you forgot your headphones or your buds yeah just happen the other day i was missing you went and you did it

[00:51:35] i just still did it but i got to tell you like the apparel is not there i'll turn it like a woman and get them or if i don't have time for that whole well it was like a funny step of work out where you

[00:51:44] just kind of like go through the motions you're not yeah i got to have a few thumbs i want to jersey sure fitness closed over here in times i was there too and it was great it was just all

[00:51:57] old cops and you know guy older dudes that were upstairs that were just you went in there you lifted and it was more of a power lifting gym than anything but you knew everybody you walk in

[00:52:09] everybody knows you you know everybody it was just nice kind of communal i liked it there a lot and i felt comfortable there and then when they closed i went to a few different ones i just never got

[00:52:21] coming to never do and you know the layout of jersey sure fitness that is similar to where i went here when it first got here that too it almost looked like the same gym okay i only

[00:52:30] different days we also had treadmills upstairs not just that kind of treadmill section down the first war but the gym the layout the awkward kind of rectangular shape of it was basically the same

[00:52:39] that's another reason i like and then similar equipment so they had like a lot of freeway stuff with energy with like the Smith machines but not a bunch of regular machines like those are kind of the

[00:52:49] accent pieces most of it was more heavy lifting stuff yeah i like jersey sure all right well i guess we're gonna go watch the Travis Green era begin hopefully these guys is like we

[00:52:59] should get a dub but wherever you're listening to us um a like a subscription a five star review we download those a long way to help us promote this show we will be back on Thursday

[00:53:10] Bobby has some big news on Thursday night that he's going to announce on our podcast so that's exciting as well i guess for Dan and Bobby i'm Chris we're the Uncle Puckers we'll see you when we see

[00:53:21] look at it when bye bye guys oh we got it tonight less oxies so i'm working on that production value you stay less oxies don't go develop in a problem they're dating oh god out there it's over so we got the other