Bagels Play Maker & Skipping Stones
Uncle Puckers NJD PodcastDecember 06, 2024
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Bagels Play Maker & Skipping Stones

A look ahead to the Devils v Kraken. ESPN 8. Trade talk and much more

Chris (00:00)
And we're going. So does everybody come down off the Ranger Whoopin' High yet, or are we all still up there? You're there? Tim, you're...

Bobby (00:09)
No, I'm staying there. I gotta stay there and I gotta just dive into that real quick because I'm very disappointed with Mr. Rupp, with the Ruppr. He's one guy that agreed with Valakett. Not necessarily that anyone should go after Jack for the move, but he agreed kind of back in his day or whatever that that was a little bit of a showman type of thing. Right on NHL Network. He... Yeah, he...

Tim Wood (00:12)
Still there.

Chris (00:19)
Why?

I didn't hear him. I heard him say the... Go ahead.

Tony (00:36)
I didn't hear that either.

Bobby (00:39)
He discussed saying, listen, I'm going to say this, Jack's one of my favorite players. But I do agree with Valakett in that. And then he just kind of went on about the type of shot that he chose to take. And I'm just here to tell you, you, you, you, and our 10 listeners that mic drop is wrong.

Chris (00:56)
Well, I'll tell you, I was listening to one of the shows on XM and Craig Button was on it and Coolius, it was a power play and Coolius asked him about, and he just like, as Coolius was going with the question, like Craig Button cut him off and was like, Valquette is dead wrong. It doesn't matter what you say. He's an idiot for saying it. Hey, look, I make stupid takes all the time. Like Valquette's a smart dude. Like I've

Tim Wood (00:58)
Hahaha

Chris (01:25)
made millions of these stupid mistakes. is his first, but he needs to own the fact that he was dead freaking wrong. And that's all I'm going to talk about it. He, you know, lost credibility when he opened up his mouth like that. I mean, and PK stood up for Jack. He came out and, know, basically said the same thing that Valakett's an idiot. Like, I mean, I guess the dude is just so...

Bobby (01:37)
Love that.

Chris (01:51)
The Rangers are in such turmoil right now that I just think it's bleeding into this guy because he, know, but PK wrote something like a tweet like, well, the 43 NHL games that Valakets played in like, like basically, come on, dude. Yeah.

Tim Wood (02:03)
Jesus fucking roasted him roasted him I The one the one thing that I saw that's pretty reasonable It's like like Valakit does a show for the New York Ranger audience It just so happened that this particular broadcast was on NHL Network So cast a little bit of a wider net including a lot of Devils fans obviously, so He's doing it

Bobby (02:08)
Yeah, yeah.

Chris (02:17)
Yes.

Tim Wood (02:31)
in the kind of bubble that he thinks is a Rangers fan and this getting away from him is probably just because because of NHL Network stuff. Also, Jim Hughes was on a podcast today that said, kids are some of the most respectful people in hockey history.

Chris (02:36)
Even-

Bobby (02:47)
Yes, saw that.

Chris (02:47)
Jim Geovone or whatever his name is, guy that was with Ballot Cat was looking at him like he was insane. know, yeah, he was a little...

Tim Wood (02:52)
The

Bobby (02:55)
Yeah, he looks very uncomfortable, like, what? He's like, I don't know if I agree with that.

Tim Wood (02:57)
He's like, are you sure? Are you sure about that?

Chris (03:00)
Tony, what's a, what?

Tony (03:01)
Did he ever come out and say like, did he ever come out and say like, I shouldn't have said that or like, I take it back or nothing like that, huh?

Chris (03:06)
Not that I know of.

Tim Wood (03:08)
No, no, he is a smoke prick and he always will be. He has such like my daddy owns the dealership energy. of my, one of my good, yeah, he like literally looks like, like a Wisconsin Senator who's like getting giddy over taking people's healthcare away. I still, I stole that joke from someone on the internet. Sorry. so I have a quick little Val cat story if you guys are interested.

Chris (03:14)
my god, he does, right? That's exactly it. He's such a little frat boy motherfucking looking asshole. I'm with you.

There.

Tony (03:29)
Dr. Oz with them.

Bobby (03:37)
Yeah, let's do that.

Tim Wood (03:38)
So one of my buddies is his neighbor and my buddy's kid plays goalie and he's eight years old and he's really excited to find out that Steve Valakett, he's a ranger fan who lives in New York City, ranger fan, excited to find out Steve Valakett actually lives near them. So I'm in the hallway, it's the part of the building up where he sat and he's like, hey, I'm a goalie, Mr. Valakett. And Steve looks at him and looks at my buddy, my buddy's only 5'10". Looks at him and he's like, yeah, you should probably stop.

Chris (04:08)
Mwahahahaha

Tim Wood (04:08)
because you're not gonna be tall enough. Said that to an eight year old, like what a fucking asshole. Anyway, that's my story.

Bobby (04:10)
Total douche. An eight year old.

Tony (04:11)
You shoot your eye out,

Chris (04:16)
Wow, that's just like as dick as it gets, you know?

Bobby (04:21)
well not only just just because a dad is 510 does not mean the child is not going to be bigger or small Chris you know we all have exceptions to that rule I'm just saying it's not a forecast we don't know

Tim Wood (04:21)
huh.

Chris (04:26)
or smaller.

Tim Wood (04:27)
Yeah, no, I wish I... I wish...

Chris (04:29)
My... No, my... Tony, you guys know my father. He's almost 6'3". He's a big man. I'm 5'8". You know? Yes, my mother was 5' tall and yeah, but you know, I'm right in the middle. But yeah, and my son is about 4 inches taller than me and he's 16. So there's... And my wife is shorter than me and he's got those genes. So there's no telling? Exactly.

Tim Wood (04:33)
Right.

Bobby (04:38)
Yes.

There you go.

That's my point exactly. There's no telling. Is there a good chance? Of course. Five, seven.

Tim Wood (04:59)
I- it's just... But it's just like, like why, like what would possess you to say that to an eight-year-old? It's just like... Like just, just... Just like cool, I was like, would love to see you at one of my camps or something like that, like what the fuck?

Tony (04:59)
My dad's six foot and I'm five seven, I mean, Jesus.

Bobby (05:06)
Yeah, nothing, especially as a public figure.

Chris (05:09)
Hey, don't, you know, right. Don't give up on that dream. Blah, blah, blah. You know, you, you, you, you pump the kid's tires. You don't deflate them in front of his dad. Now that this kid should now just work on being the best fricking goalie ever and play more than 43 games in the NHL and shove it up Valakett's ass.

Bobby (05:15)
Yeah.

Tim Wood (05:22)
Yeah. Hey, Juicy Sarus is 5'11".

Chris (05:35)
is it

Tim Wood (05:35)
Get to that 44th Maybe that'll just slash his tires. I don't know, one of the two.

Bobby (05:35)
get to that forty fourth game

Tony (05:38)
then retire.

Chris (05:41)
What an asshole so Bobby, what do you what's your what's your thought Bobby you wanted to start with something?

Tim Wood (05:44)
Yeah, yeah.

Bobby (05:48)
No, I'm confused about something and I need help from the panel here. I can't really tell which side of the bagel is better, the top half or the bottom. No, I can't figure it out. I literally just had a bagel and I was going from bottom side to top side, toasted. And I felt like there was something I liked more about one of them, but I couldn't really, I'm just not sure and it's really important.

Chris (05:50)
Good luck.

You could tell us we're your friends.

Now, tell me, you guys, it depends on the bagel. mean, because the plain bagel, it doesn't matter, but I would think an everything bagel or anything that's seated like that, you'd want the top more because that's where all the action's at.

Tony (06:18)
Yeah.

Bobby (06:26)
Okay so this is in reference to a plain bagel and I was thinking that perhaps toasted the bottom half might be better because you know it kind of crinkles up there the dough is a little more a little more heavy to the bottom. Yeah.

Chris (06:27)
Okay.

Tony (06:36)
Play, you eat plain bagels. he eats plain bagels, how lame. So much.

Chris (06:36)
What? What Tony?

Bobby (06:41)
With butter, you know, it's not like I'm dry docking it.

Tim Wood (06:41)
I know, it's like, Jesus. That's like the whitest thing you could do.

Tony (06:48)
I was to say, I'm kidding. It's got the black socks on with the garters.

Chris (06:48)
it

Bobby (06:49)
I'll go a step further dude. They're like lenders. It's not like I didn't go to a bagel shop. This is just they're in the fridge. Okay, so if that's your thing, what about if it's not toasted? And let's stay with playing here. I just need your opinions. What do you guys think? Yeah.

Tim Wood (06:53)
It's like a Will Ferrell in

Can I back up for second? So what kind of toaster do you have that only one side of the toaster, like the bagel, is being toasted? Like, do you have, you know...

Bobby (07:13)
I don't know just the no ever regular toaster it's being toasted fully like like it should as I'm yes drop them down

Tim Wood (07:21)
Like a, like a pop in toaster or like a toaster oven. So both, so both sides are getting toasted. So by one side you're putting against like the grills.

Bobby (07:29)
No, no, no, my question is what tastes better the bottom half of a bagel slice in half or the top half as you're eating it?

Tony (07:36)
You know, I think going back to the plain bagel, Bobby, I think that's one way to keep your toaster clean though. You know how there's always like everything bagel has a bunch of shit left behind? I guess the plain bagel is kind of, yeah, you kind of have a better cleanup. like a, it's like a wet wipe. Yeah.

Chris (07:42)
Yeah. It's for Bobby's OCD. He doesn't like to leave a mess.

Bobby (07:43)
Thunder shit.

Tim Wood (07:46)
That's like how you flavorize a toaster though.

Bobby (07:48)
Okay.

Full disclosure, here's why this is important. I don't know how you guys eat your food, but I'm gonna tell you how I eat mine. The last bite is very important. The last bite is planned. If you're having the perfect steak, you find that perfect medium rare piece, a little extra salt, just finish that last bite. So I'm just thinking going forward, you get that bagel, you get that nice little spot that's like little extra toasted. That's side you're gonna flood with a little more butter than the rest. Yeah, I'm a health conscious, I don't need a ton of butter. But over there, I'm gonna be like, yeah, that's gonna be a great last bite.

Tim Wood (07:55)
Hehehehehe

Chris (08:02)
You seriously are crazy.

Tony (08:06)
the money shot.

Bobby (08:20)
So as I'm going through this, I realize I can't tell what I like better, the top half or the bottom half of a plane base.

Chris (08:24)
I have a possible solution to this and that would be put the bagel together, cut it in half and then eat it as a sandwich. So you're getting the top and the bottom together, I'm just saying. And then that way you're getting the best of both worlds and you don't have to enjoy your, well that's essentially what you're doing, but you don't have to enjoy your bagel with the thought in the back of your head going, which side is better, which half is better. On a plain bagel,

Bobby (08:28)
I'm all ears.

Tony (08:34)
seasoning on it.

Bobby (08:36)
I'm willing to try it. Not a idea.

It's more of a butter sandwich, but I'll give it a try.

Tony (08:45)
Excellent.

Chris (08:53)
Personally, I prefer the bottom half only because the top half is a little bit It's doughy ear and I like it a little crispier more like a bagel chip if it's toasted nice With some cream cheese on it not a butter person. I only put butter on cinnamon raisin or french toast bagels And french toast bagels when you're an extremely stoned and you toast them and you dip it in syrup with butter my god, it's so freaking good but in everything bagel or something like that the tops better because like I said, that's where the party is

Tim Wood (09:11)
as

Bobby (09:23)
Okay, I wasn't even thinking that because we don't afford everything bagless right here.

Tony (09:24)
bunch of shit on there now Bobby Bobby do eat do eat Cheerios plain Cheerios also because I would think a guy who eats a plain bagel has a glass of milk and some plain Cheerios

Chris (09:25)
Hahaha!

He's like an eight month old toddler. just eats.

Bobby (09:33)
You're nuts, dude. Honey nut Cheerios. No way, dude. I'm not going straight Cheerios. No way. I got get the sugar there.

Tony (09:38)
Some Kellogg's regular corn flakes or some cracklin.

Chris (09:40)
I will say, yeah, but my favorite ice cream is vanilla, so I guess I'm right there too. Well, I shouldn't say it's my f-

Tony (09:46)
I like it.

Bobby (09:47)
nothing wrong with vanilla ice cream. This is the problem we don't have hockey for a few days so I don't know what everyone tuned in to hear but...

Tim Wood (09:51)
Alright, seriously. My whole issue is like the bagels that I'm used to like are... There's no top and a bottom. It's a universally coated bagel and both sides are the same. So that's why I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Chris (10:05)
Where do you get your bagels that both sides are the same?

Bobby (10:05)
Whoa. that's a crazy bagel.

Tony (10:09)
Ha

Tim Wood (10:10)
I mean, I had a nice bagel place in New York City when I lived there. Now I don't get bagels down here because I just don't want to be disappointed.

Bobby (10:15)
Wow. I just find it weird the way they cook. There has to be a bottom and a top. It's just a natural order of things. There you go. Tony, what do you prefer? There you go. All right, I'm sorry to throw you guys off. I can't stand cream cheese,

Chris (10:19)
Yes.

Tony (10:21)
So is the bottom and is always a tough.

Chris (10:22)
That's right. She only comes when she's on top.

Tony (10:27)
and everything bagel man, can't even contemplate eating a plain bagel. So Bobby, are you cream cheese or no cream cheese?

Chris (10:29)
So what's your favorite bagel, Tony?

Tim Wood (10:32)
What is happening here? It's like exactly like Will Ferrell in Daddy's Home where he's like, and I love my Ford Flex.

Chris (10:34)
I am not a butter guy. It's gotta be cream cheese.

Bobby (10:36)
Get your sputter.

Chris (10:41)
You guys ever see I know Bobby has Amazon women on the moon remember that movie and and they had this sketch of the Don no soul Simmons like all the black people with no soul and there's the one guy and he's dressed like a pimp and he's like Comfort and safety are the two things I look for in an automobile. That's why I bought a Volvo station wagon. That's just it. It's a Volvo station wagon. That's you Bobby

Bobby (10:47)
the best.

Tim Wood (10:48)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bobby (11:06)
I only in bagels obviously I'm I experiment further with Cheerios so you know I'm not a lost cause

Tony (11:11)
You

Chris (11:16)
So this morning I sent you guys a picture of ESPN 8 I guess Bobby you had mentioned this earlier that I guess it wasn't right it cuz it so I guess

Bobby (11:28)
About a year ago, I would assume. a year ago this time, yep. That blew my mind that it was actually a thing. Yes. It was like soccer but four nets in like a circle and you could score on any of the four or any of the three because you're defending one. And I think it was like an elimination type thing. So you could gang up with other teams and all score on the one team first, like whatever. It was just quite crazy. I thought I was being punked.

Chris (11:33)
And you saw some crazy sport. was like soccer and football together or soccer and basketball.

Okay, so there's four teams playing together. Okay.

Tim Wood (11:57)
Haha.

Bobby (11:58)
That's what it looked like yes like they're all for themselves but last team standing I guess. So the red team in the blue team like let's go all score on red team for right now and then will be enemies at the end like a Hunger Games type thing or something.

Chris (12:00)
Right. So it's like...

I gotcha. So today's early morning about 5.30, 6 o'clock in the morning, the sport they were playing. I can't even call it a sport. It was stone skipping on a lake. I shit you not, these people are getting up there, these like fat dudes in like shorts and ripped t-shirts and they're skipping stones and they're counting how many skips and this one, my God.

Bobby (12:25)
You

And they're into it, right? Like they're into it, yeah.

Chris (12:38)
And this one guy gets up there and he kind of like squats down in this little stance, right? And he's getting the announcers like, yeah, they call him the Spider-Man and I'm cracking up. Nobody calls him the Spider-Man. Nobody calls this guy the Spider-Man. He's the stone skipping Spider-Man. And then another guy comes up and they go, yeah, this is, but it was all in Pennsylvania. And he lives in that. He gets his stones. He gets his stones.

Bobby (12:51)
my god

No. No.

Tim Wood (13:07)
There it is, home of the plain bagel.

Chris (13:07)
from a local creek in his neighborhood. Where the fuck else are you gonna get your stones? Are you gonna go to fucking stone skipping store? Of course you go to a lake or the ground. He gets his stones by looking down and finding one. And the one guy threw this really good one and the announcer's like, he should try and get that one back. Yeah, I would have seen him fucking dive in the lake and try and find his stone.

Bobby (13:12)
special stones!

Tony (13:13)
ridiculous.

Tim Wood (13:13)
Well, okay, so that was... I was gonna ask you this.

Bobby (13:16)
The Keystone State Stones!

Tony (13:20)
Something tells.

Chris (13:38)
It was...

Tim Wood (13:39)
That'd be fucking hilarious if they had like special stones and they pulled them out of a case and it's like a velvet case that just sit in there. It's like a perfect-

Chris (13:42)
Hey, yeah, the guys You never skip Never skip stones to the guy that shows up at the lake with his own rocks. You don't do it, buddy You know, you know, you're in trouble.

Tim Wood (13:52)
Exactly That's bullshit. They should have to pick the stones up at the shore that they found like the rest of us.

Chris (13:57)
I think you should have the other people pick the stones for you. Your opponents give you your stones.

Tim Wood (14:02)
There you go.

Bobby (14:03)
You know how douchey I felt? Yeah, for sure. Thinking about how douchey I felt like carrying my own pool stick to play pool and you're come in with a bag of rocks. Like, special bag of rocks.

Tony (14:04)
I think all of these guys are dating inflatable women.

Chris (14:12)
These are mine.

Tony (14:15)
But Bobby, were the only guy I remember out of all of us that had the brush in his back pocket in high school though is you had the comb, the bandana.

Bobby (14:20)
I had long, luscious hair, Tony. What are you going to do, man? The hockey gods have spoken since then, obviously. They're like, you were a douche, you don't get no hair.

Chris (14:20)
Well had to keep his feathered hair looking good! He had to keep that feathered mullet perfect!

Tony (14:25)
He had the blue bandana and the comb in the back pocket. He made a bet he lost. picked the Devils in 94.

Chris (14:27)
Scott Baio wannabe motherfucker. My god, and then after the stone skipping I just showed you guys a video they had the sign spinning championships so these idiots that

Tim Wood (14:31)
Nn... heh... BLEH!

Tony (14:46)
I've seen some good sign spinners outside the sub places here in Florida, I have to admit.

Chris (14:48)
Yeah, I mean, the pawn shops are like, you know, they're the best sign spinners around. I just, I love the fact that anybody can be on ESPN and I think it was, it looked like it was, it looked like they were on the strip.

Tim Wood (14:49)
Alright.

Bobby (14:59)
Just tell me was it in Vegas the science building. It looked okay. That's where it belongs that's the home turf.

Tim Wood (15:04)
I like, mean, felt like to Tony's point, it should be, it should be like in like a Tampa Bay strip mall in Florida.

Bobby (15:11)
Yeah. I think they need to elevate the rock skipping competition from lake to ocean and really throwing some variables in there with some waves coming in, some seagulls jumping at your shit.

Tony (15:11)
That is very true, Tim, very true.

Chris (15:21)
So if you're a... Look ahead, Tim, I had one more thing about this rock skipping.

Tim Wood (15:23)
I think... No, no, no, no, I'm... Yes.

Tony (15:26)
Tim, have you been to a strip bar in Tampa? You have a, we actually, there's like one leg, it's strippers. mean, it's pretty crazy. It gets pretty crazy around here. Tampa gets odd.

Tim Wood (15:34)
That's Tampa. Tampa has some very good entertainment venues.

Chris (15:35)
What's her name? We'd like to welcome Kickstand up to the stage.

Bobby (15:36)
Hampton sounds gross.

Tony (15:40)
They have the space oddity, the spaceship over in Tampa. Yeah, so they have a place, they have a tripod, talking about spin. They have a spaceship out here, man. There's a spaceship strip bar that you can go up in the, it's actually like, it's what the Odyssey, I think it's, I believe it's called over in Tampa. It's been around forever. mean, you know, it's pretty popular around here.

Tim Wood (15:43)
Come into the stage, tripod! I know!

Bobby (15:43)
Hehehehehe

Chris (15:45)
That's three. She only has one. Are you counting her arms?

Bobby (15:48)
You know that?

Chris (16:02)
well, off the strip club thing, to enter the stone skipping competition, if you're a professional, it's $10 to get into the tournament. And if you're an amateur, it's $1. So they have this like rock kind of little monument, like a three foot tall rock thing that's in the middle of the lake. And if you hit it, you get a cash prize. And this one guy, I shit you not, his name was Enzo Ferrari. That was his name.

Bobby (16:04)
Odyssey.

Tony (16:14)
It's a county fair.

Tim Wood (16:15)
I'm out.

Chris (16:31)
and he skipped the rock and he hit the little monument thing and the renouncers were like, he won a cash prize and the guy's going nuts. He won $11.

Tony (16:43)
Chris, do they have like uniforms? Like does these guys have their own outfit?

Chris (16:44)
No, they were wearing cargo shorts and riptang tops! They had no uniforms!

Tim Wood (16:45)
My god.

Tony (16:48)
okay, that explains. Not even a shirt that says like...

Bobby (16:49)
All is.

Tim Wood (16:51)
So you really kind of, you kind of buried the lead though. So like, this is what you choose to do at 5.30 in the morning.

Chris (16:58)
Well, I was up and I was flipping through the channels and I had watched NHL on the fly about six times already. So I went over flipping through ESPN. When I saw ESPN 8, I stopped. It was, you know, and I was completely just enthralled for about an hour.

Tim Wood (17:01)
You

Tony (17:02)
You

Tim Wood (17:06)
Yeah, that's...

You're like, alright, that's it. Alright, fair enough.

Bobby (17:14)
I'm instantly pissed off that a dude who can skip a rock and hit something in the middle of the lake makes more than I make on this podcast in three months. This is messed up, dude.

Tim Wood (17:22)
Yeah, but only that guy. Only that guy.

Chris (17:23)
$11, Bobby.

Tony (17:23)
years

Bobby (17:26)
No, we make money, it all goes back into production, everybody can tell that.

Chris (17:27)
god, it is so fucking funny. Alright.

Tim Wood (17:30)
By the way, Chris has a GoFundMe for his new computer. Everybody wants to donate to the... If you like the podcast, we need it.

Chris (17:33)
If anybody wants to donate to my new computer fund, I'm down with that. So how about we talk a little hockey? No? You guys want to know? Nobody wants to talk hockey. All right, so Tim, you had some stuff you wanted to bring up, some stats you wanted to talk about.

Bobby (17:33)
That's awesome. The Ocho.

Yes.

Tim Wood (17:47)
Sure

yeah, the stat guy. So there's floating around today. This amazing stat is actually from a podcast, another podcast. So it's just about, yeah, it's about Jack.

Bobby (18:05)
We borrowing shit.

Chris (18:05)
Well, who what podcast at least give him a shout out for Christ sakes I do Okay, there you go

Tim Wood (18:11)
That's a, they don't give a shit. It's the PDO. It's the PDO cast. It's like one, it's a, it's a good podcast, but, they're talking about how.

Bobby (18:18)
They don't give a shit because they're big and they don't know we exist. think that's what Timmy's saying over here. Yeah. We got to get on their site.

Chris (18:19)
that's fine that's watch Damien's gonna send us a picture of him listening to that in his car next and we're gonna thanks buddy

Tony (18:21)
Or a speck on their nuts.

Tim Wood (18:23)
There it is, yeah.

They don't need to go to rock skipping competitions on the weekends, I'll put it that way. So it's just talking about Jack's defensive game and how that's gotten so much better this year. So in the last 10 games since the games in Florida, Jack has been on the ice for 20 goals for and zero against. And in the last 14 games, he's been on the ice for 28 for and only two against.

Bobby (18:30)
That was beautiful to see though.

damn it.

zero.

Tim Wood (18:58)
So that 10 game span where he hasn't been on the ice for any goals against, there are 515 players, not just forwards, players that have played over 100 minutes, and he is the only player who's been on, who a goal hasn't been scored on when he's been on the ice. It was pretty amazing.

Chris (19:14)
Out of all the devil forwards, he would be in the bottom list that you would think would be that guy, right?

Bobby (19:15)
That's insane given his type of play.

Tim Wood (19:17)
Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, we've been getting kind of worked on the penalty kill a little bit and he's not really on that. So I think that that may be a little bit of it, but it's still it's still pretty remarkable. And I think a lot of it is, you know, it's a couple of things. Obviously, it's it's I think it's largely Keith system. You know, we're no longer dealing with the Lindy Ruff flood system where they leave all these gaping holes in the defensive zone open and. And just his buy in to being being, you know, more defensive and then just take a better defensive posture and actually look at.

Chris (19:27)
That's a fantastic stat.

Tim Wood (19:53)
what Keith did with Matthews and with Marner, making them both, turning them both into silky candidates. You can actually see the spike in their defensive metrics when Keith took over in the years after that. So it's just a pretty interesting, interesting trend, you know, and there isn't a stat going around about the devils that I don't like these days.

Chris (20:10)
No, I'm with you. Cover me for two seconds. I have to go help my daughter do something really quick.

Tim Wood (20:19)
Yeah, another speaking of speaking of defensive game. So last year the Devils were 27th goals against 21st and expected goals against and 23rd against in the inner slot shots. So that's really kind of like where they're getting just absolutely murdered this year. They're sixth, fourth and eighth. So just all around just the defensive game of the Devils has improved dramatically.

Tony (20:21)
There you go.

Bobby (20:45)
Yeah, everything's pointing in the right direction for the Devils. It's making it really exciting because we get these advanced stats and that's not even too advanced like the Jack. That's not really too advanced. Actually, that's just a flat out, easy to understand staff. But when we do get into what this team's doing, it's just incredible. And some of the defensive pairings. And I think we're just getting better. This is a really exciting time.

Tim Wood (20:55)
Goals for yeah, it goes for against

Yeah, know Segunthal and Kovacevich are like in the top 10 like defense defenseman in the league. Like it's unbelievable. Dylan Duggee has been extraordinary the past couple of games. Luke and Pesci are like now right under Segunthal and Kovacevich over the last 10 games. Just everything is just trending up. Like I am just pants off all day long just thinking about this team.

Bobby (21:29)
and and i believe we to our guys skating this morning passion hollowback or not to tar and

Tony (21:31)
And I don't even think it's...

Yeah.

Chris (21:37)
What are you gonna say, Ton?

Tony (21:39)
And I don't even think we've seen the best of this team. I really think it's gonna, it's getting there, but I don't think it's even gotten to where it's gonna, what they're gonna start really, yeah.

Bobby (21:47)
I agree completely.

Tim Wood (21:49)
Yeah, and they made some line changes in their practice today. You know, like you said, Bashan's been back skating. He's on LTIR, so I think he has to wait a couple more games before he can come back. But there's flip-flop to Tartar and Cotter, put Cotter back down on the fourth line, which I think that was that fourth line that really kind of drove a lot of that sort of, know, mean kind of play. I think you put Cotter and this new kid, Lakeray, Lager, Lager. I did too, man. The kid's got a fucking neck like a linebacker.

Chris (22:14)
I like that kid.

Tim Wood (22:19)
You get like an old school neck roll on that kid.

Chris (22:21)
Well, you guys know tomorrow we are playing the Seattle Kraken who are right now beating up on the New York Islanders 4-0 with about 10 minutes left in the game in the third. I did not, but I heard a crazy stat, the Lightning, wow, 8-1 over San Jose. I did see a stat about the Islanders. Now this is crazy. The Islanders' goal differential is plus 11.

Tony (22:34)
Hmm see that lightning score, Christina.

Yeah.

Chris (22:51)
in periods 1 and 2. It's minus 22 in period 3. That, I mean, how are you going to do anything when you are that bad of a goal differential in the third period? They keep on losing these leads.

Bobby (22:59)
Wow.

That helps explain all the loser points they're getting to because they're probably going in with some leads and they're blowing them in a third. They're getting the tie and then losing.

Chris (23:10)
Mm-hmm, they can't hold them.

Tim Wood (23:10)
They're getting-

And this is carried over from last year too.

Chris (23:15)
Yes, the same exact thing and and yeah, those participation points is what got him into the playoffs last year. You know, so you know you guys want to dive a little bit into the Kraken game and we'll talk a little bit about that. Alright, well I got some stats here so the Kraken are 1213 and one they have 25 points. Their winning percentage is a 481 their 22nd in the league with their winning percentage. Goals for 74.

Bobby (23:16)
Yeah, they were king of the loser point.

Yeah. Yep.

Chris (23:44)
20th in the league. You got the Devils who are goals for 99 second in the league. Goals against 78. That's good for 17th in the league. For the Kraken, we are 14th in the league with 76. Their goal differential is a minus four. That's 17. Ours is a plus 23. That's good for third. And this is where they kind of fall off a cliff. I mean, they're middle of the road in most of those categories. Their special teams is terrible.

Powerplay 14.6 % 30th. Our Powerplay is first 34.5. Their penalty kill is 77.4. That's 22nd in the league. Ours is 80.7 14th. Ours could be a lot better too. They average 28.35 shots a game. That's good for 21st. And we average 30.25. That's fifth.

Tim Wood (24:16)
You

Chris (24:41)
Their team save percentage is 891, that's 20th in the league. Ours is 901, that's 8th in the league. Now, Joey DeCord is playing tonight. They have, like I said, the 4-0 lead. He's 11-6-1. He's got a good save percentage at 9-12 and a 2.53 goals against. So when you see their... Yeah.

Tim Wood (25:03)
He's a good goalie. He's a good goalie.

Bobby (25:03)
That's respectable, yeah, that's really good.

Chris (25:04)
is a good goalie. And when you see their team save percentage at 891, you're like, okay, Joey DeCord though, you know, he's holding up his end of the bargain. But then there's Philip Grubauer, who, unless they play DeCord back to back, we're going to get Grubauer tomorrow. He's 1-7-0. He has an 8-62 save percentage and a 3.62 goals against average. yeah.

Tim Wood (25:29)
Shut out and come in right fuck

Bobby (25:29)
Well this screams victory for the devils doesn't it so we're up for a night

Chris (25:33)
I mean, all intents and purposes, yes, we should whoop this team. mean, Jared McCann leads them with 23 points. He has 10 goals and 13 assists. He's a plus seven. So 23 points is their leader. Brandon Montour, seven goals, 10 assists, 17 points. He's a plus seven. Ryker Evans, three goals, 13 assists, 16 points. said minus one. Mattie Berniers only has four goals and nine assists for 13 points.

Bobby (25:47)
Goodyear.

Chris (26:03)
Oliver Borkstrand is 6 goals, 9 assists for 15 points. Those are their leading scorers. So from Jere McHan to Brandon Montour, you got 23 points and 17 points. Where the Devils leading scorers, you got Bratt with 12 and 23, he's a plus 5, 35 points. You got Jack, 11 and 22 for 33 points. Nico has 15, 12, 27 points.

Bobby (26:12)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (26:33)
So we have three guys that are above their top score. And then you get into Nason who has 22 points, Dougie 21 points, Timo 19 points. So offensively, you know, I don't know if they can hang with us. I really don't. They are a fast team. And if Joey DeCord was playing, I think I would be very, not nervous, but just, you know.

I would think that that game can go either way. So what do you guys think? Do you think that they'll play the chord twice or do think it'll be Gru Brower?

Bobby (27:07)
I think that they looked at the schedule said what's the more winnable game let's go win that one so they played him against the islanders and will probably get the backup.

Chris (27:15)
Hmm, it's interesting logic. I wouldn't have thought like that, but, you know...

Tony (27:17)
Yeah, I agree.

Tim Wood (27:19)
Yeah.

Bobby (27:19)
But listen, I know most people in sports don't think like that, like with the negative first. I'm kind of half joking here, but I'm also not. really think they were like, you know, circling on the calendar, like this game, and we're not going to win that one. Let's just go see what we can do with our number one.

Tim Wood (27:32)
Well, they just beat Carolina, too, like two or three days ago.

Chris (27:34)
They did. They beat Carolina. They were there one and three going in tonight's game against the Islanders. So there'll be two and three in their last five. They beat the Canes four to two their last game out and that was in Raleigh. Then they had a home and they lost to the Ducks five to two and then they had a home and home against San Jose and they lost them both. So that's their last handful of games.

Bobby (28:01)
Well, like how's the workload against the goalie tonight? Is pitching a shutout? Is it an easy one maybe? you know, because they could play him again if he's not working too hard.

Chris (28:09)
I mean if you're playing the Islanders you have to kind of assume that you know the Islanders can't score so right now it's four to one so there goes the shutout. But right now you got Joey DeCord has one goal on 21 shots so he's got a 9.52 % percentage going into tonight.

Bobby (28:19)
I ruined it.

Tim Wood (28:28)
Did he start against Carolina too or was that a group hour?

Chris (28:31)
That's actually a good question. Let me find out on that one. Hang on one second.

Tim Wood (28:39)
Yeah, speaking of our points guys, Bratz, he's sixth in the league in scoring. I love that.

Chris (28:41)
Yes he is.

Bobby (28:46)
And let's see.

Chris (28:48)
Let me find this.

Bobby (28:52)
Yeah. There's a tie for six. Yep.

Chris (28:55)
So, yeah.

Bobby (28:56)
Yeah, well, while Chris is looking that up, I'm just going to go out on record and say, no, there's no way we're losing this game. It's not going to be a classic trap game. We've been off. They're playing. ready. We're ready to roll.

Chris (29:03)
Joey DeCord played against the Canes. This is kind of a big game for the Devils for a couple of reasons. You came off the huge game on Monday against the Rangers. You are well rested, but that's an emotional game, a big game. I want to see them treat that Ranger game like it was just another game. We went in there, we did what we do.

You you remember back when we beat the Rangers in the playoffs going into that Carolina series, there was that little bit of a big time hangover. was such an emotional series and the Devils were so jacked to go and win that thing that, you know, they had nothing left when it got to the Carolina. just, I know this is only one game, but you got your time off. got five games now at home. They have not been good at the rock. There's six, five, and two this season at the rock. This is the time to kind of.

Lay that foundation that we are a really tough game, a home team to play. You come into our building, it's going to be a tough place to win. We haven't shown that. And that's why I think this is a big game. You got a fun schedule coming up with some teams we don't see a lot. I'm looking forward to it, but they've got to start winning at home.

Bobby (30:07)
You

Yeah it's a big game is book ended favorably because you're leading off with seattle which again should be a win on paper blah blah blah all that stuff you're staying at home for the full week and then you're ending with chicago so if you look at this from an opportunity standpoint you should really be thinking about what points are absolutely bankable and then of course you're gonna have three tougher tests in the middle of that so this could be a great week like you're saying start off strong.

Play up to your competition like they tend to do and then finish strong. This could be the run they go on to.

Tony (30:56)
Yeah, no, I mean, think, you know, with the Devils this year, I think we've we've seen where they don't go on Loles now. So mean, they like they lost to Tampa, right? They came back and won again. They beat Florida twice. Obviously, you would think after the Tampa game, maybe they're going to be a little deflated. This is just not showing that this year. I think with the only thing with this game coming up with the Kraken is as we know, the games you should win are always the ones the Devils seem to drop the ball on sometimes. So that could be expected. But I think you have to beat this team. But I don't.

It's still a long season ahead and I don't know if it's that important because every team is tough and I think that you know you want to beat him because you should beat him but as we as we again with the Devils that's the teams like San Jose this year or these are the teams that you kind of in your head you're like guaranteed wins you know and then you get there and it's like it's not as guaranteed as you think.

Chris (31:36)
Senos is good.

Yeah, you're 100 % right, but like San Jose is playing tough hockey, man. They're not giving anybody freebies. Well, maybe Tampa tonight scored eight on them.

Tim Wood (31:50)
That was a VTEC special.

Tony (31:51)
I know that's the only game that's not tied tonight too. was looking actually everything else is tied. Florida just took the lead.

Chris (31:54)
really?

Was it VTEC in that tonight? Or was it Asgarov?

Tim Wood (32:01)
for a little bit.

As Vtech he got he got yanked I think it was like like five goals on 12 shots or something like that Yeah, I mean like the odds the odds

Chris (32:05)
It was.

That's RV Tech.

Tony (32:11)
I think and Florida just beat Philly to just now end of the third day to score six to five. They just scored in the game.

Tim Wood (32:17)
Philly was on a nice little run too. I think they were like 7-3 in their last 10. Yeah, that

Chris (32:20)
I'm going give Philly some props. I like the way they play. I think we talked about this a little bit, but I really like the way they play. They just play good fundamental hard hockey. They block a ton of shots. They win board battles. They don't have all the skill, but they have all the fundamentals down. They're a hard team to play against. They played the Rangers last week. They got on top of them in the first five minutes. They were up to nothing, and then they just were able to lock it down.

Tim Wood (32:47)
Mm-hmm.

Chris (32:50)
I think that that could be a team that could make a push for that wild card spot.

Bobby (32:57)
Yeah, and it's by design, right? Because you know the coaching staff knows that same thing. Like, no disrespect, we don't have the skill, we don't have the flash to play a certain way, we're going to play this way, give us our best chance to win for this season, be the hard team to play against, and yeah, they're surprising teams.

Chris (33:10)
And the guys are buying in.

Tim Wood (33:11)
Yeah, know, connect me. You know, he's he's a hell of a player. He's a guy that just kills us every time he plays us. And Mitch Goff is unbelievable, too. But, you know, going back to Seattle, like I'm looking at their their lines and like, honestly, I think three of these fucking guys are made up. I've never heard of these guys in my goddamn life. Ty Ty, car time, Mitchell Stevens and Ryan Winnergan. It's like throw some fleets vests on those guys and it could be like bankers at Goldman Sachs.

Chris (33:15)
Yeah, he's a stud.

I think those guys are probably what like Firebird call-ups and starting this year. I mean, yeah.

Tim Wood (33:42)
Mitchell Stevens.

Probably yeah, this I think this Riker Evans, which is an a-plus name is I think he's on the shelf but like two of these guys will Borg in like you're telling me that's a real person like he's He's on their penalty kill. Yeah. I know they're they're probably all gonna score against this make me look an asshole But but they have our old buddy Adam Larsen's on there on that team, know, he's he's a good solid defense They three solid defensemen, you know, it's Vince Dunn Yeah, Brian

Chris (33:57)
We're gonna find out tomorrow.

You know, I

I love Brandon Montour.

Tim Wood (34:14)
Brandon Montour, Vince Dunn and Adam Larson. Jamie Oleksiak's on the team too, he's a bit of an anchor. But Yandy Gord, keep your eye on him. He may be a fourth line center guy that could be available if Seattle keeps falling.

Tony (34:14)
So.

Chris (34:16)
Yep.

Tony (34:29)
Gord's a good player too, I watched him play a lot live, actually went over in Tampa and he is a hell of a...

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Chris (37:51)
So, name that keeps popping up is Kyle Palmeri.

Bobby (37:55)
Thank you!

Chris (38:01)
What do you guys think of Kyle Palmieri coming in and helping this team? And Tone, we'll start with you because I know you like Palms. But what do you think about him joining this team again?

Tony (38:17)
It's hard. Like you said, I like them. Of course I'd like to see him be on the team and see like the team win with Kyle Palmieri. Do we need him? I'm not 100 % sure. But if we're going to bring in another guy like that, this, you know, just to, know, before the trade deadline, I mean, of course I'd rather be him. It's kind of like Henrique, you know, all the Henrique talk from the last couple of years, like you liked the guy, you loved him as a devil, just the kind of person he was, you know, but you know, do you, do you need Palmieri? I don't know.

Chris (38:44)
Tim, what do you think?

Tim Wood (38:48)
I'm actually looking up something right now. So, yeah, mean, you know, it's another one of these guys, you know, I feel like the devils, we always talk about like retreads and like, who can we bring back and who, you know, who would fit, you know, from like our stable guys that have gotten away from us, you know, and it's, it's fun to talk about, you know, like I brought up Taylor Hall a couple of times. I think he'd be interesting. You know, I wonder if his, you know, Coke guy would come with him too, but yeah, but you know, palms is,

Tony (39:14)
And his name's been bought up even recently.

Tim Wood (39:18)
You know, and I've said this a couple of times, like Jack has really functioned well with a right-handed sniper and Palmer is putting up, you know, he's got 20 points in 26 games, 10 goals, 10 assists. You know, he'd be a good compliment on that. If he slots in, I think so. Yeah. Because then that's allows Palat to slot back down to the third line, which is where he probably should be these days. And he's not as much of an anchor and he's, and he's a finisher. the only problem is, is Palmer is.

Chris (39:24)
It is 10 and 10.

You would put him up there with Jack and Brett?

Bobby (39:41)
Fourth.

Tim Wood (39:48)
You know, his skating speed is below the 50th percentile. You know, speed bursts are kind of nothing. He's got a cannon for a shot still. His shooting percentage is fine. So he's slow, but you know, he's kind of a wily veteran. The other thing though, I'm looking at his picture on the NHL edge site right now, and he doesn't have a beard on and I don't like that. Just like, like that would be one of the, that would be one of reasons to bring it back is like, this

Tony (40:12)
Ha

Bobby (40:13)
dude dude let me cut you off right now that is exactly the one reason I would want to see him on the devil so you put that beer because the dude looks weird without a beard let's face it right it just is not cool

Tony (40:25)
Guys, Bob's more of a Ryan Graves kind of guy.

Tim Wood (40:26)
It's just off-putting.

Chris (40:29)
Bobby, what do you think about Paul Mary coming back?

Bobby (40:30)
Ha ha!

No, seriously, just the beard. can't look at him without the beard. So I bring him back for that reason only. No, I don't know. don't... Nah. It doesn't really do much for me. mean, Tim made a good argument why it would work, I think. But he is awfully slow. You got to keep up with those two. I just think there might be better options out there to explore. I was a fan of his while he was here, of course. And at that time period, you're talking about a guy that was essentially a leader on the team.

Chris (40:38)
Other than the beard.

Tony (40:39)
You

Bobby (41:03)
an offensive catalyst on bad teams so it's hard not to like ... them but I don't know that I want him on the scene.

Chris (41:10)
I don't. No, I just I don't I don't I don't like retreads. I don't like bringing guys back that have been here before.

Tim Wood (41:11)
The other thing we're talking about this, sorry, go ahead. Chris, I apologize.

Tony (41:21)
Works with Claude the Mew though, but yeah, that's That was a you got two cups out of him.

Chris (41:21)
But Claude Lemieux is a different player. not gonna put like, yeah, like I will put it this way. Like I was bummed when Claude Lemieux left. I wasn't bummed when Kyle Palmeri got traded to the Islanders. I just didn't care. And I didn't, it's not that I didn't like him. You guys liked him a lot more than I did when he played for this team. I just, was, I'm not a giant fan of his game. I don't know what it is. believe it or not would prefer.

If you're looking for somebody to play with Jack and Brad, I would prefer Taylor Hall.

Tony (41:57)
I was gonna ask you that.

Tim Wood (41:57)
Think that's I think that's the whole you know I mean I get the plot does the little things and I've been trying with that shit But like every play that was hit his stick like the past couple games just goes to fucking die and the puck goes the other way the problem though is We currently have 400 grand in cap space and at the deadline that translates to a person who would have the salary of about 1.2 million dollars we're not getting Taylor Hall without her not even getting Kyle Pullman with that unless a big chunk of money goes the other way and

I think this team is going in such a right direction, like Tony said. I think the best is yet to come. We don't need anything right now. I just don't think we do. Like Jack and Brad are cooking. Yeah, I just kind of, I don't like, and if we're shipping someone out that upsets the apple card, it's like, what's kind of that do in the locker room? We're shipping out a popular fun guy. You gotta kind of let this play out a little bit. And I don't think Fitz is gonna do anything like,

Tony (42:39)
It feels like that, right? It kind of feels like we don't need anything. It's kind of crazy.

Tim Wood (42:57)
like anytime soon. But he did say he wasn't a, sorry, Tony, I apologize. talk a lot. He did say that he's always kind of looking and the kind of guys that he likes are the sort of versatile wing center type size, versatility. And the one guy that, that pops up on a team that was struggling until they fired their coach was Trent Frederick.

Tony (43:01)
No, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead,

Chris (43:16)
Not familiar.

Tony (43:20)
Well, it's funny Tim, when you say about what we don't need, when Chris first bought up the trade tonight, we were talking about this, in my head I was thinking, wow, it's kind of cool that I can't think of anything we really need right now. We may have, now of course, injury changes everything, but right now when Chris said that, I've started thinking to myself, man, know, right? I feel confident in this team right now where they're at. Yeah, you definitely would love to bring a big, not even a big piece, but a complimentary piece before, but you don't want to do what Boston did where they, you know,

started loading, loading, loading, loading when they didn't need, which probably backfired on them in the playoffs, that playoff run. But when Chris did bring it up, I thought to myself, like, yeah, I'm like, just, yeah, I can't really think of something that, but it's always goaltending, right? Or toughness or this or that for once that everything's checked off kind

Tim Wood (44:03)
Right.

Chris (44:04)
Yeah, you're 100 % right, Tone. And that's why, like, to me, if you're gonna make a move, I don't think it's a top-six guy. Like, I go back to Jake Evans, who's a dude that can play in that bottom-six, that fourth-line guy over in Montreal. Like you just said, likes a... Fitz likes a versatile guy. He's a center, he's a right wing. You know, he only has four goals and eight assists and 12 points. I haven't watched much of him, but when I do, like, he's a fiery little motherfucker.

Bobby (44:06)
Alright.

Chris (44:31)
He flies around the ice, he hits, he does everything, he's like Curtis Lazar type of player. So like, that's where I would like to see the fourth line pumped up. Like I would like to see Jake Evans, Curtis Lazar, Nate Bastion when they're all healthy, but if that's not gonna, and I like the kids and maybe the kids that they brought up that played against the Rangers, maybe they're the answer. And I think we gotta give them a good sample size to really check and see.

But for me, I would probably stay away from any Taylor Hall, Kyle Palmeri moving plot right now. I mean, he played good against the Rangers. Let's see if this can maybe develop. Maybe he needs 15 games, 12 games to really get his, you know, is feeling comfortable working with those guys. Like for me, I'm more of if you're going to fix something, tweak that bottom six.

Bobby (45:22)
And you know, just to add to that a little further, we have essentially an entire line on Injured Reserve that's got to come back. And these three guys, this is a completely different team from when these three guys went down. All the facets of the team that are gelling right now, they weren't all gelling as well as they are now. We weren't the number one power play, know, penalty kill, our five on five play and the goaltending tickling, everything, Jack heating up more than he was in the beginning of the year when those guys were producing more. So we still need to get them back and really fully assess.

Chris (45:28)
was true.

Bobby (45:52)
where we are again once we have the full compliment with everybody feeling good right now and buying into the system now that they've had more time. I would stand Pat for like you said at best this is a tweak move right before the playoffs. I don't think we need anybody in here now. Let the team figure out who they are.

Chris (45:58)
That's a point. Very good point.

Tim Wood (46:09)
Yeah, and we don't need a big name. And I don't think we'll get one at the deadline. You can't have an all-star at every position. That's not in the salary cap world. It doesn't work that way. So it only works for the Uncle Puckers.

Bobby (46:20)
only works with the uncle puckers.

Chris (46:22)
No, you're right though. mean, you're right. And Tony, I agree with you a thousand percent that this team and I I love this team. This is one of my favorite devil teams that we have ever had assembled. It really is. I like everything about it. I just feel like these guys gel in so well with each other, the whole team. I mean, except for Hala talking about, you know, taking Brad into the boards.

during the four nations faceoff, which I thought was great. And congratulations to Eric Halle for making that team. That's awesome. But like, just, right now I stand pat and you let the kids play in that fourth line. And when Lazar and Baschon come back, hopefully it's before the trade deadline in case you do have to make a move. But right now I would just, you know, go full bore with what you got and hope that no injuries arise that force you to make a move. I like everything that we have right now.

Tim Wood (47:22)
Yeah, yeah, like and Dowling's been a good fourth line center. He's you know, he's a little he's a little iffy this first game, but he's been great. His basketball game is very noticeable. And like we talked about the Ligare kid already, like let's give him a couple more games and see see what he's like. But if those three with those two with with Cotter now on the fourth line, like they're going to that's kind of a scary fourth line in terms of if you're a defensive going back into the corner for a puck, I'd be I'd be a little a little worried about those guys coming after.

Tony (47:22)
sure.

Chris (47:23)
Yeah!

Yeah.

So before we wrap it up, any thoughts on the Four Nations, guys? I mean, it's all everybody's talking about for me. just, I want to watch the games and that's basically it. Yeah.

Tony (47:58)
No injuries please.

Tim Wood (47:59)
Yeah, just don't nobody get hurt, please. And, you know, I'm gonna root for Team USA, but like they really galaxy brain some of this shit like with some of the like Brock Nelson and fucking Crider and it's just like, what are you doing? Like it's it's a four game tournament. Like you're not putting together an NHL team. Put your best players on the ice. Fucking step on the gas. Score more goals than the other team and win the fucking tournament. Like you have the best goalie in the world. Like

Bobby (48:00)
Yeah, no, there you go.

Chris (48:25)
I mean

Tim Wood (48:28)
Like, who gives a shit while Canada's fielding?

Chris (48:28)
I disagree with that. I do think that you have to build some defensive structure into this thing. And that's why I think a guy like, what's his name? Shifely was left off the team because he doesn't play good defense. I think that it is going to come down to, yeah, you're going to, I think it's going to be a physical series. think it's going to, you know, not what, five games or whatever it is, but I,

I everybody plays everybody once and whoever has the best record plays for the championship. Is that how works? I don't know. mean, we'll see when the games are played. So give me your final. Who is it going to be?

Tim Wood (49:15)
Finland's going to beat Canada 4-2 in the final.

Chris (49:17)
Really? Finland is winning? You're insane. Bobby, what do you got?

Tim Wood (49:25)
Mike?

Bobby (49:25)
I've no let's just go USA all the way. I I'm under a rock on this one right now I just basically saw a few names being thrown out there making teams so USA beats Canada that's always popular

Tim Wood (49:31)
Hahaha

Chris (49:35)
Okay.

Tim Wood (49:36)
Yay, America! Hell yeah.

Tony (49:37)
That's what I was gonna say. USA beats, I'm gonna say Finland.

Tim Wood (49:41)
What the fuck is a kilometer?

Chris (49:41)
Alright, I'm gonna be the guy off. It'll be Bratt vs Hughes in the final, it's gonna be Sweden vs the United States, and I think Sweden's gonna take this thing. That's where I'm at.

Tony (49:44)
I can tell you I've learned what it is the last couple of years.

Tim Wood (49:45)
Hahaha.

Bobby (49:59)
on brat dangle right around jack for the game winning goal then they never talk and again their line falls apart we go on a 13 game losing streak Chris fucks it all up for everybody

Chris (50:01)
and I would love to see Jack and Brack go against each other.

Tim Wood (50:08)
Stop. No, Jackie scores on Markstrom to win in the shootout Markstrom falls apart.

Chris (50:09)
That's right.

my god, that would be awesome. Let me not mark him falling apart, but just jack scoring on him to win it. That would be great. you know, I just, I'm glad that, you know, there's four devils in there. It's going to be fun to watch. you know, I, I can't wait until the Olympics where people start noticing Luke and all three Hughes brothers are on the U S team. That's going to be awesome.

Bobby (50:17)
There you go.

Tim Wood (50:32)
Yes.

That left side of the US team defense is going to be tough to crack for Luke. You got Quinn Warrensky and Slavin.

Bobby (50:38)
Pretty cool.

Chris (50:43)
He'll do it.

Now, Rurensky's a frickin' stud this year, Jesus.

Tim Wood (50:50)
I know, I know. He's really immersed and slaving, you like you gotta keep him because he's so good defensively. He's just slaving away back there.

Chris (50:54)
Slavin'?

I'm Tyrone.

What I want to see from the Devils is a fucking win streak. Like start putting this shit together. It's three out of four. That's what we do. And that's great. And that'll be a great season and possibly when you need a Metro and get you into the playoffs. It would maybe with home ice, that'd be awesome. But I want to see, like you said, tone a seven, eight gamer, start putting some distance between you and maybe Washington, but definitely that bottom.

Tony (51:08)
Nice seven or eight or.

Chris (51:31)
the bottom half of the metro. Start putting your distance between the Rangers and the Penguins and the Blue Jackets and the Flyers. Yep. Yep.

Bobby (51:39)
Stay away from that mess, yep.

Tim Wood (51:41)
Yeah, yeah, just stay above the fray. Win at home. The next five games, I want to see them at least go four and one. They need to put this home bullshit behind them and win some games at home. They can't do this.

Chris (51:46)
Four in one? Okay.

Bobby (51:53)
Agreed.

Chris (51:54)
So predictions for tomorrow night, boys?

Tony (51:59)
Levels 5-1, Jack U's hat trick. There you go.

Chris (52:00)
Ooh, saucy! I like it.

Tim Wood (52:03)
Mmm.

Tony (52:05)
There you go.

Bobby (52:05)
do like that I'm going with the identical score as Tony but I'm gonna go with two Timo Meyer goals.

Chris (52:10)
And you guys said five one? Okay. What do you got?

Tony (52:12)
Mm, five one.

Bobby (52:13)
Yeah.

Tim Wood (52:15)
Yeah, I was sick of 5-1 too and I was going go Nace and two goals.

Bobby (52:19)
Clean sweep.

Wouldn't that be something? Right?

Tony (52:23)
That's almost guaranteed lately, it? At least one.

Tim Wood (52:25)
that while i'd i'd bet jack used to i'd bet jack use to post goals against the rangers and one a nice little chunk of money now no no no i've said i know where upgrade our room at the great wolf lodge

Chris (52:30)
Nice, that's right.

Bobby (52:32)
Nice. Can you put it the Uncle Pucker pot? No.

Tony (52:32)
we go.

Chris (52:35)
I'm wondering, of course... So, yeah, Nason power play goals or do you use even strength? Okay, okay, I like it. I love him on that power play.

Tony (52:40)
There you go.

Tim Wood (52:45)
Both powerplay goals.

After.

Think he's 13. I think he's 13

Chris (52:55)
nason has 13 and he's got 13 and 9 and

Bobby (52:56)
13. So that would make him break it. That would be great then. He ties it and breaks it in the same night. All right.

Tim Wood (53:01)
Yeah.

I'd also love to see Holla get one. I'd love to Cotter get one. want to like Cotter, he is really cooled off, you know. Holla's been kind of invisible. That third line's been a little shitty recently. I wouldn't mind seeing Mercer Pot another one, get him going. He was catching some flack from the fan base, so.

Chris (53:20)
Alright, I'm gonna go 4-0, Markstrom gets to shutout, and El Capitan gets the game winner, the first goal. That's where I'm going. So, anything else you guys want to talk about before we wrap this thing up?

Tony (53:32)
possible.

Tim Wood (53:33)
All right, I love it.

Tony (53:34)
Chris Packers took the lead buddy by the way on the Lions and the third 21 17 yep 21 17 right now

Bobby (53:37)
get a little a little bit of

Chris (53:40)
What's this? Packers took the lead?

Wow, I need that. I'm not rooting for the Packers. I'm kind of rooting against the Lions, but it's really hard for me to even watch this game because I need the Packers to win though. I need the Lions to lose and then, and the Lions have Buffalo next week. So if Minnesota does what I think they're going to do on Sunday, which is just completely dismantle Atlanta and they get to 11 and two and then.

Tony (53:58)
Well, they've taken the lead.

Chris (54:11)
Buffalo maybe Buffalo goes and beats up on Detroit and maybe Detroit loses tonight. You got yourself possibly home field if you can keep it up.

Tony (54:22)
You know, it's pissing me off I'll stick I was at the gym today and I'm starting to see and I've seen notices lately a lot of chiefs shit a lot of Everybody I'm there all the time baby, but like everybody has chiefs gear on now. Everybody's got chiefs gear on I Mean all of a sudden like everywhere I'm going people got chiefs hats chiefs jackets, you know, it's like it's catching on now It's starting to happen, know, like I remember when the Patriots started when they were doing started winning all the time All of a sudden all your buddies at school. Everyone's got

Bobby (54:26)
Sorry.

Saw the rack.

Chris (54:35)
Down in Florida? Really?

Tim Wood (54:37)
Ugh, God.

Bobby (54:44)
Yeah, it's trendy now, man.

Tony (54:51)
Patriot hats, know, crystal tech, me and Chris still had, had his Vikings hat on, I still had my god, the Raider hat on, it's way it went.

Chris (54:56)
I don't think the Chiefs are winning it this year. I don't think the Chiefs are making it. I had a hair too. Chiefs are not making it to the Super Bowl this year, Tom. I think it's gonna be Buffalo in the AFC. I really do. And the NFC...

Tony (55:00)
Bobby had hair.

Bobby (55:02)
lot of it dude had a brush and everything

Tony (55:08)
I hope not man, I mean...

Tim Wood (55:09)
I hope not.

Tony (55:13)
I mean, the Lions are damn good though, right? I've watched a lot of their games. I watched a lot of Viking games because of Chris, actually, because I've watched Viking games before, but yeah, I started watching more of Vikings because of Chris and stuff like that, but those Lions are damn good, man.

Chris (55:16)
tears.

Yeah, I watch Raider games too, I'm with you. Excuse me.

They're hurt though.

Bobby (55:29)
Buffalo has the best acronym for their team, isn't it? It's just good. Boy, I love losing Super Bowls. It's just

Chris (55:33)
I get it. Now tell me that the best Super Bowl this year would not be the Buffalo Bills who have been to four and never won one versus the Minnesota Vikings who have been to four and never won one. One of these teams will be the losingest team in Super Bowl history.

Tony (55:36)
Yeah

Bobby (55:49)
That would be epic. I'd sign up for that right now.

Tim Wood (55:57)
Man, don't put that on yourself right now, man.

Tony (55:58)
And one would finally break the...

Chris (55:59)
Hey, I've never seen him in one. I'll just it. I'll take it. I don't care. I just want to get there. I want to go into...

Bobby (56:05)
be something.

Tony (56:06)
So that's the thing is Chris is right. Cause it's excitement like that whole week before, like I remember when the Raiders played the Bucks in the Superbowl, which wound up being awful, but like that whole week, usually people get to enjoy it. But as a Raider fan, we had our center went missing that week. I don't know if you guys, Chris, if you remember that, yeah, like it was just right away. Like there's people like not showing up and like it was just a disaster right away. But for most people it is, I always used to get jealous of being like at the Patriots. was like, man, if you're a Patriot fan, almost every year you get to watch this like two week celebration before it happens. And then your quarterback's going to somehow.

Chris (56:17)
Yeah, I remember that.

Tim Wood (56:19)
I remember that, I remember that.

Tony (56:36)
pull it off at the end, you know? So it would be cool, Chris, for you because you've never got to experience that. So I have, like I said, which was a circus, but for you, it be awesome.

Chris (56:37)
Yeah.

I'm never, and I would love to go through Detroit and Philadelphia to get there. That's what I would love to do.

Bobby (56:51)
Can you...

Tim Wood (56:51)
The NFC is a gauntlet this year. The AFC is... Dude, yeah. I've... I've sequined on my fantasy football team and I'm kicking the shit out of everybody.

Chris (56:52)
Yeah, there's some... Hello, the Eagles? They're fucking good, man. They're fucking good. I mean, he...

Tony (56:54)
Philadelphia's turned it up so much too. Yeah.

Bobby (57:03)
Can you imagine the text we're gonna get from Chris if the Vikings win the Super Bowl? He'll be like, come on, we got the Uncle Pucker Viking show coming up. Everybody sign up, you available tonight? We gotta go.

Tony (57:04)
Yeah.

Chris (57:07)
I it might

Tim Wood (57:09)
Hahaha

Tony (57:12)
I actually root for the Vikings because of Chris I never have before I just with that I never I never hated him never hated him, but I just never cared Yeah, now I'm like, let him win because you know, he's never like I said, no I never really was a total Viking fat member when Ed, know back in the day But now I totally pull for him, know, what's your plan Raiders was they played a rare? It was like three nothing each team through for like seven yards last year You couldn't even be happier team one. Yeah, it was awful

Chris (57:15)
I appreciate that.

Tim Wood (57:16)
He talked me into it a couple days ago too.

Chris (57:19)
There you go.

God, such a bad game. that was so bad. Nobody wanted to win that one. I'll tell you though that that Raider Buccaneer Super Bowl is one of the, if not one of the only Super Bowl I actually slept through. I was playing pond hockey all freaking day. The whole river, the river up here was frozen solid. The whole town was like out there playing hockey. were out there all day and me and

Tim Wood (57:34)
Yeah

Tony (57:51)
Callahan didn't change the plays.

Chris (58:00)
My girlfriend, who's now my wife, went back to my apartment, got some food, all set to watch the game. About five minutes after kickoff, I was out. I woke up and I just saw that it was, well, I guess I didn't miss much. Tampa just rolled them.

Tony (58:14)
Dude, was really depressing seeing, like, I was a big John Gruden fan before he left, you know, he was traded to the box. mean, it was like, just couldn't, like, everything I tell my tell a story of being a Raider fan, you can't top the next story, but our coach is traded, and then he beats us in the Super Bowl the same year. Callahan, who's coaching us, doesn't change any of the plays. I think it Jerry Rice was mic'd up during the game, he took off his mic halfway through and threw it on the ground, like, just, you know, and at this time, was like, I'm living in Tampa at this time.

Chris (58:16)
Yeah.

You

Mm-hmm.

Tony (58:44)
And there's fire, the whole town's partying around the house. It was just like, yeah. And I mean, it was an embarrassment. you know, I don't know that. Yeah. I'll never forget that, you know.

Tim Wood (58:45)
God.

Chris (58:45)
That's the worst.

Yeah, that's rough, That's Kickstain. Can I put a dollar in your stump?

Tim Wood (58:56)
It's just going to see tripod over at the strip club.

Tony (58:58)
Make sure that's the only way to feel better. Go to the spaceship Everybody rides People are eating their face with bath salts and Clean up the show Bobby Be the Mopper

Bobby (58:59)
Hahaha

Tim Wood (59:05)
Hey throw me your leg! Stuff it with dollars.

Chris (59:08)
What do got Bobby? Take us home Bobby.

Bobby (59:12)
yeah, let's clear the air here a little bit, a little feel good. So every year we get my kid an advent calendar, right? It's been chocolates, it's been Legos, whatever. This year it's NHL Teenie Mates, right? Anybody know what these Teenie Mates are? They're literally half an inch big. NHL players, of course, we're on day five now, so it's dotted with mostly superstarish players.

Chris (59:29)
Little players.

Tony (59:29)
midgets.

Chris (59:39)
Mm-hmm.

Bobby (59:40)
And I don't even recall the first four to be honest with you. But this morning he comes running down because he opened door number five. He's like, Dad, Dad, you gotta see who I got. We got Brady Kachuk. I'm like, there you go, buddy. You get it. I don't know why Fitzgerald doesn't get it. Let's just go out there and do this thing.

Chris (59:54)
Now, KK's home painting a devil jersey on Brady Kuchuk's little half inch little jersey there. There you go.

Tim Wood (1:00:02)
There you go. You're the little figurines here.

Bobby (1:00:03)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.

Chris (1:00:08)
Yep, you know.

Bobby (1:00:09)
The excitement in his face was so incredible. So I was like, yep, that's how we roll.

Tony (1:00:11)
You know those games that had the sliders?

Chris (1:00:15)
That's a way to close it off.

Tim Wood (1:00:16)
It's good, I love it. I love the indoctrination.

Tony (1:00:17)
Your kid into hockey cards, Bobby, which hockey cards are like $20 a pack now is your kid into hockey cards. They do it. But I mean, I see that some of those things that would like the stores here and it's like $12 for a pack of like 12 cards. I'm like, man.

Bobby (1:00:19)
What's that, bud? Yeah, we do it. Especially for holidays and stuff because,

Chris (1:00:20)
I know.

That's awesome.

Bobby (1:00:30)
It's a small price to pay when you know want to buy hockey gloves and you know for his age hockey gloves are like 70 bucks but because he wants a red pair they're 170 bucks because they're red just because they're red right Tim? Fuck it, they're red. Every all the hockey gloves are black so you pay 70. You want red? 170. You know it's great.

Tim Wood (1:00:31)
Cough

Chris (1:00:38)
Okay.

Tony (1:00:39)
Yeah, yeah.

Tim Wood (1:00:41)
Yeah, that's what you gotta do.

Yeah, that's the markup. It's for paint. I got white gloves one year for Christmas and I just, my God. They were a good thing. I was pretty good at that point.

Bobby (1:00:48)
Yeah. Yes.

Tony (1:00:54)
It's like getting feet in pajamas at 12.

Chris (1:00:57)
But before we wrap it up, what was the worst Christmas present you ever got?

Bobby (1:00:57)
Yeah.

Tony (1:01:08)
I pajamas at 12 from my dad. But yeah, had no lie. No lie. That's where that came up. Like I remember my dad's, his wife at the time, her mother-in-law got his Christmas presents and I was like a certain age and like they had, I was like, what the hell is this? You know, it might've been the worst.

Tim Wood (1:01:09)
haha

Chris (1:01:10)
At 12?

Mine, I was about 14 years old and my mom got me a bowling ball for Christmas. And I had bowled like once or twice. Like we just started kind of like going occasionally and my mom got me a bowling ball and bowling shoes. And I remember like I wanted a surfboard or something. I was like, I was like Lane Meyer from Better Off Dead when his mom got him all the TV dinners. It has raisins in it, Lane. You like raisins.

Bobby (1:01:31)
uses it.

Yup.

Chris (1:01:52)
That's how I felt. That was the worst Christmas present. Love you, Mom. God rest her soul. But she got me a bowling ball for Christmas. for some I was like, well, I guess I better start bowling. That works. I guess it's better than getting a skipping stones. How about you, Bobby? What was?

Tim Wood (1:01:52)
You like raisins.

Bobby (1:01:53)
You like raisins?

Tony (1:01:59)
was a good woman.

Bobby (1:02:05)
Yeah.

Tim Wood (1:02:11)
I don't know, but you get like a nice velvet case for that skipping stone.

Chris (1:02:12)
What was your worst Christmas present, Bobby? Yeah, was it a Mets jersey?

Tony (1:02:15)
Bobby, was it the Metz hat you got?

Bobby (1:02:15)
No. It was Mets fandom. No, I got a calligraphy set because I had bad penmanship and I think my mother thought this would help me with my penmanship so I got a calligraphy set. Which if you have bad penmanship, like the last thing you want to do is like practice writing and the real shit of it was, it was like the last gift I opened up on Christmas morning.

Tim Wood (1:02:17)
Ha

Chris (1:02:34)
Right!

Tim Wood (1:02:36)
Uh-uh.

Bobby (1:02:41)
Right? I'm done. Like all the exciting stuff happens and I get a calligraphy. So you think you have that one last thing. Yeah, that did not get used at all.

Chris (1:02:47)
How about you Tim?

Tim Wood (1:02:52)
pretty fortunate. I do remember one year it was the original Nintendo NES came out and I got that but my parents got me games for a different system. So

Chris (1:02:58)
Okay.

Bobby (1:03:09)
You

Chris (1:03:09)
That's the worst!

Tim Wood (1:03:10)
I was so fucking excited to open this thing up and like yeah, it was like super JARIO or something like that. And I was like what the fuck is this? I got so mad and cried. Meanwhile, I'd gotten like all new shoulder pads and pants and skates and a new bike and like my parents blew the shit out of me. But this is what I got fucking bent out of shape for. The coolest present I ever got, I got a Fetisov Russian Jersey.

Tony (1:03:14)
Pitfall Harry.

Chris (1:03:38)
Nice.

Tim Wood (1:03:40)
with his name written in Russian on the back and number two, that was pretty cool.

Bobby (1:03:43)
Okay, the coolest gift is for next week's program. Yeah.

Chris (1:03:44)
Okay, yeah, we'll go over, cool is Christmas good, because I had to think about that one, but...

Tim Wood (1:03:46)
shit, sorry, well...

Tony (1:03:49)
We are named.

Bobby (1:03:49)
Yeah, I actually don't know. I've been spoiled like you, Tim. Like, Christmas in our family has always been big, and I passed that down, too. That's just the way we roll.

Tim Wood (1:03:55)
Yeah, it's just, yeah, my parents are the best and like, yeah, I pass that down to my kids.

Chris (1:03:57)
My mom did get me one to Gretzky Jersey, an Euler one, Euler Gretzky Jersey. That was pretty cool. was like... Ooh, that's nice.

Tony (1:04:06)
got a Joe DiMaggio baseball for my mom. Yeah, yeah, but she used to go to the sports shows and yeah. Yeah.

Tim Wood (1:04:09)
Ooh, that's pretty cool.

Bobby (1:04:10)
I got a calligraphy set for my mom, best gift I ever got. Tommy had it right.

Tim Wood (1:04:16)
I once got a Randy Wood Islanders jersey because I always put Randy Wood on the, I would make a Team USA on like NHL 94 and I put Randy Wood on the first line with like Rodick and Imani. So he'd score like 50 goals every year. Randy Wood is Miles Woods' dad, obviously, but Randy Woods' dad was the head hockey coach at Princeton when my dad went there and my dad tried out for him and didn't make the team.

Bobby (1:04:16)
Okay, bye-bye.

Tony (1:04:25)
Barford.

Tim Wood (1:04:46)
So it was a fun little full circle thing.

Chris (1:04:47)
Nice, nice.

Bobby (1:04:49)
I gotta tell a stupid story now that makes me look really stupid. This will be the proper close because you mentioned NHL 94 which was a great video game. was also right around the time that I started watching hockey. Again, no secret, the 94 playoffs were my first exposure to hockey at all with Chris and then in 95 they won. So I started off with a bang. But when the 94 game came out, we were playing it up. I went to school in Providence and Chris, was the other Derek that I lived with if remember him.

Tony (1:04:49)
Randy Wood I remember when he was with Hartford.

Tim Wood (1:04:52)
Yeah

Tony (1:05:09)
Who brought you there boys? Who brought you there?

Tim Wood (1:05:11)
There you go.

Chris (1:05:16)
Yeah.

Bobby (1:05:19)
during playing the game I whatever player I had got three assists and I was so new to hockey I asked this other Derek I said what's three assists like what do you mean I'm like well I had trick is three goals what's three assists he said well he's a playmaker but I playmaker so for like the next two years I thought if you got three since in a game you got a playmaker. am hosting a hockey podcast.

Chris (1:05:44)
I'm just gonna say that. That's awesome. you've grown up, Bobby. On that note, we are gonna wrap this thing up. Thank you so much for checking us out and giving us a listen tonight. And we're ready to go tomorrow against the Seattle Kraken. Hopefully the Devils can keep this good vibes going. For Tim, Tony, and Bobby, I'm Chris. We are the Uncle Puckers. and by the way,

Tim Wood (1:05:45)
it's still a hockey podcast.

Bobby (1:05:48)
I told you I never wanted to be a hockey podcaster.

Chris (1:06:09)
Download our shows. Okay, because if you are listening to them, please hit the download button because the hockey podcast network gets mad when downloads are down. you know help us out and downloads

Bobby (1:06:22)
Download it, don't stream, delete it in a couple weeks when you're done. There you go.

Tony (1:06:22)
goes.

Chris (1:06:23)
There you go, subscribe and like and comment and all that fun stuff and I'm really liking

Tim Wood (1:06:31)
Go to the Uncle Pucker's website and read our blogs and everything. do a recap every game.

Chris (1:06:34)
yet and him writes recaps of every game they are informative and extremely funny so check those out and

Bobby (1:06:42)
Best place to get our shows too, that is an automatic download. So go ahead to the Uncle Pucker website. Listen to our shows from there. Yep.

Chris (1:06:46)
There you go, just listen to him right there. yeah, thank you guys so much and we are the Uncle Puckers and we'll see you when we see you.

Bobby (1:06:54)
Bye-bye.

Tony (1:06:55)
space.

Tim Wood (1:06:56)
Lerp.