Allen To The Rescue

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[00:01:03] What a goal! Hey, everyone. Mr. Devil here. I'm Stanley Cup champion of the New Jersey Devils, and you're listening to the Uncle Puckers New Jersey Devils podcast. Let's go, Devils! Well, three out of, well, four out of five, so that's not too bad. Devils did put up a giant stinker against the Penguins on Saturday. We'll talk a little bit about that.

[00:01:33] And they just hung on for dear life last night in Columbus. We are the Uncle Puckers, Tim, Bobby, Chris. And we're going to discuss all that and more. But first, what's up, boys? Hey. Howdy ho. Is everybody doing well? Is this miracle light shining? Do you guys see that on your screen? It's just coming on you. Beam of light coming on me? Beam of light. You're kind of a... Very godly.

[00:02:02] Kind of St. Bobby of the Puckers. Obviously, this is meant for somebody else. But I do like it. It's kind of nice. It's definitely, yeah. It's going right through. Yeah. We've had that before. Yeah, I know. You have that. It's probably just more noticeable because we're squares and circles. And I don't move. I'm always in the same spot. So every now and then the light just shines upon me. You see that? Yeah. Tell me where you were on January 20th. I'm doing it next to his son. January 20th? January 20th.

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[00:03:01] Well, what kind of tick was it? It wasn't a deer tick. Like deer ticks are very, very small. So it was a pretty meaty fucker. You don't have an Indian wire. Yeah. It's just like crazy. So it's just another annoying thing of the old adventures of Tim on the farm. Maybe we'll get a whole new look next week. Maybe your face... My face will be mangled. A little Rocky Dennis thing going on. That's good. I like that.

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[00:05:27] So guys, do you guys want to start talking a little bit about, you know, the Penguin game or last night's, uh, yeah. We could touch on the Penguin game. I mean, you know, since it was two games ago, they kind of redeemed themselves a little bit. But I think, you know, the, uh, just, that was just an absolute fucking stinker, man. Like, I can't believe how badly they played. You know, you can kind of tell from, from the drop.

[00:05:56] They just like weren't, weren't generating anything. They weren't getting anywhere. They were, um, you know, they got on the board first, which is kind of an interesting anomaly because usually when they're, when they're pretty bad and they're pretty bad in first periods. Um, but after that, the wheels just, like I said, my rear cap, like, I don't even think the wheels were on. Like, they didn't even have the opportunity to fall off. They weren't even, they were never on. I don't know. Road game away, middle of the afternoon. We got it. Apparently the 600,000 people watched it on ABC. So we got embarrassed in front of 600,000 people.

[00:06:26] Um, so not good. Um, not good, Bob. No, not good. I didn't understand that game. Um, it was another game that had the fortune of not being able to watch at least to a certain point. I wasn't there for the start of the game. Kind of saw what was going on with the game. Figured, oh, good. Another one I can probably avoid. But I got sucked in just in time to see like the failed comeback. Saw the two quick goals. Started, you know, pulling on the heartstrings a little bit. I'm like, they're going to pull this out after all. And alas, no.

[00:06:55] So, um, when that kind of effort happens, sandwiched between some of the other efforts, I don't, I just don't get it. I don't know how to explain it anymore. And, uh, I don't know. It's probably more effort on the devil's part than, than what the penguins did. I mean, Pittsburgh played well. I'm not going to take anything away from them, but we didn't make it very difficult for them. And this is why I have such reservations for how this team is going to do moving forward and into the playoffs.

[00:07:24] You don't see the Colorado's, the Dallas's, the Vegas's, the, you know, I don't, Florida, you do kind of see it with this year. But I'm saying the elite teams, the teams that are always in there, they're always good. They don't have efforts like that the amount of times that we do. And it does seem like every third or fourth game, they just forget how to fucking play hockey. And it's mind boggling. Exactly what you said. It's, it's just like, you can't, you sit there shaking your head.

[00:07:54] If they played the way they played against Edmonton, against Pittsburgh, they win that game. They play, you know, the way they played the Columbus in the first game last week, they beat Pittsburgh. But instead they went in there and I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is about this team. And that three win in a row mark that they're just like, oh shit, we won three in a row. We better stink up the joint tonight because we can't win four in a row.

[00:08:17] And that's not even why I'm, I'm upset about the whole thing, but it's just, you're not going to go far when you have effort like that. And that's the thing that bothered me. And it was all around too. That's the other thing. Like, it's not just where we get a couple of guys that maybe have bad games. Like, I feel like our bad games, it's every guy on the ice. So, I mean, this is what happens when you take Eric Holla out of the lineup, you know? I mean, you just, you can't do it.

[00:08:44] The, one thing that kind of annoyed me a little bit was, was Keith was saying something akin to, you know, we got to, you know, really find out who we are with these inconsistent efforts. And it's like, isn't that kind of your job to identify what the problems are? And, and we can get into it after the CBJ game. Like, you know how they post his, his locker room speeches after games? They're generally pretty good. I wasn't really a fan of his speech after the CBJ game.

[00:09:14] I was kind of like, I don't really like the way he won about. You're talking about the game last night or the first game last night? Like, I didn't see the locker room speech. Yeah, it, I don't know. Just kind of something struck me as a little off about it. And, you know, look, we're only getting a snippet of what he says in the locker room. God knows what else he says. You know, I'm not going to make some broad sweeping, you know, interpretation about it. But you're a podcaster. Of course you will. That's what we do. Broad sweeping generalities and clickbait.

[00:09:44] He's a bad coach. Send him back to Toronto. Like, just off the subject real quick. But, like, there are, like, I now in my, I guess, my algorithm on my phone. Like, when I go onto my Google homepage and stuff. You know, I get a bunch of Vikings. And it's mostly, like, Vikings and devils. And, like, a few wrestling things. And some political shit that pops up. But, like, the last week or so, it's been bold headlines. I was, like, Kirk Cousins traded to Cleveland. I'm like, oh, shit.

[00:10:14] They really, they traded them. And then I'm reading, this is what they should do. Like, motherfucker. I hate that. Don't put that clickbait nonsense. Like, I blocked all those stupid sites. But it's so frustrating. But I'm with you. There's a bunch. There'll be, you know, like, superstars thinking about being dealt in AI, you know, simulations. And you're, like, what? Knock that shit off. That's way too bad. Yeah. There are these, you know, it's kind of prevalent in advertising.

[00:10:43] And this is something that I kind of banged my head against the wall in my former career. There was these, they're called MFA sites. They're made for advertising. Which are basically just low, cheap, or, you know, high volume, cheap inventory that help kind of push your kind of cost per efficiencies down. And they're just, you know, they're the type of sites that, you know, you cycle through, like, eight pages. And it stops loading. And then it keeps going back up to the top.

[00:11:11] And you're just getting, it basically gives your phone fucking HIV. Right. You know, when, with the amount of advertising on it. So, you know, and it's the same thing that Sports Illustrated just did when they, I don't know if they just did it. But they fired all the writers and just started writing shit with AI. It's pretty bad. I think that one, that one Pucks and Pitchforks article that we went over about the trade targets when it was like Quinn Hughes for Jack's left wing. I was like, I wonder if someone wrote this with AI.

[00:11:40] Somebody else just wrote one, I think, for, that I just saw. And I can't remember what the article was. But I was like, this is the dumbest freaking thing. It was a devil article. But it was, again, one of those, I think Pucks and Pitchforks. It was just so stupid of an article. And I disagreed with almost everything. But I didn't give a shit enough about it to actually, like, save it so we can make fun of it on air. Probably should have done that. But, okay. What people don't realize about the AI real quick is that, you know, it's generating all its information.

[00:12:09] From what's available on the internet. And we all know that everything available on the internet is 100% true. Absolutely. But AI doesn't know this. So it's just going out and grabbing what it thinks are sources. And it puts stuff together that is, it could be absolutely wrong. It could be right as well. And depends on the depth of what you're asking it to do. But to take away writers and their ability, that's their skill. That's what they do. And especially in a journalist level, to replace it with AI, that's just ridiculous.

[00:12:38] The sports illustrations just fold. Yeah. I think Aristotle warned us about this in one of his blogs. Aristotle did? Thought it was Plato. Yeah. I don't know, they had blogging back then. Emma Miller. I read it on the internet, Bob. You just said it's all true. Son of a bitch. Timo Meier proves to be Mr. March for New Jersey Devils. Anyway, let's talk about last night. That's right.

[00:13:03] Um, the, now, well, first one thing I want to, and I don't know if I'm going out of order, but, um, Mark Schumann had a pretty rough game against Pittsburgh. Big time. And that's two consecutive roughish games. Now it's, it's interconnected. Like, you know, the team in front of him wasn't exactly helping out a little bit. Um, but you know, what are your guys' opinions moving forward? Because Alan's obviously been dynamite and we can talk about the goalie stuff after we

[00:13:33] go over the Columbus game or we can talk about it now. No, let's talk about it. You're on it. Let's go. Yeah. So I'm of the mind that, that we have a little bit of a buffer. It's not huge, but I think it's enough that, that we can actually, and it sucks that it is kind of a risk, but throwing Mark Schumann against Calgary, cause that guy, he thrives on seeing pucks and, and getting work. Um, and Calgary has literally the worst offense in the entire league.

[00:14:02] I think they barely scored like a hundred goals, five on five. So I think it's worth giving him a shot against his former team at home, um, against the worst offense in the league, and then kind of fall into a rotation with Alan, because I think Alan, the beauty of what Alan's been able to provide us is he's been able to step in whenever, wherever we needed him to. And whether that's two weeks, you know, back-to-back games, you know, a game spot start here or there

[00:14:29] coming in to relieve Mark Schumann when Mark Schumann went down. Like he's just been, he's just been such a, such a trooper for us. Um, I really appreciate it. So that's kind of what I think, but I really, I am a little bit concerned about Mark Schumann coming back from this injury. You want to go first? Sure. Um, first of all, I agree that he should get the Calgary game. Just give him a shot. But at this point, um, he's not himself. He's not where he should be.

[00:14:59] And to me, the better goalie deserves to play. And for now, I think that's Alan until Mark Schumann gets in there and proves he's ready. And then if he gets a big win, maybe he gets the next game. We got a little bit of a bunched up schedule next week with a back-to-back in there. So they're both going to get time. But right now my confidence is in Jake Allen and we need to win. So I would say you play, you know, Mark Schumann where you can, a game like Calgary. You give Ottawa back to Allen. Then you got Vancouver coming up.

[00:15:27] A little bit of a decision there because you got Chicago after that. So, um, I have no problem riding the hot hand. I know the ultimate goal would be to have, thanks for screwing up my speech, Chris. The ultimate goal would be to have the Mark Schumann we had going into the playoffs. So I know we want to kind of get, get riding on him to hopefully get back to that person. Right. But what if that doesn't happen? Well, you're wasting time trying to do it. I'm just, I'm just good. I'm good with the hot goalie. Yeah.

[00:15:55] I mean, I, if you look at the way the season started to Allen was the better goalie in the beginning and then Mark Schumann kind of found his game and found his legs and he became, you know, I, I mean, he, if he didn't get injured and he stayed at that pace, he would be in talks right now for the, uh, Vesna. I mean, he's not going to win it. It's Hallibuck's trophy, but he could have been a finalist. But, um, again, everybody not saying you guys are, but devil sphere, uh, is, you know,

[00:16:25] play Allen, play Allen the same way they were back in October. And, you know, Marks from found his game. I think that's going to happen again. I think you got to get marks from the starts. He's just coming back from the injury. He'll find it. We went and got marks from four of the playoffs. So he, I really hope he is ready for the playoffs. Now there's also the underlying, not that it matters to us at all, but definitely matters to management is the amount of starts that Allen gets. And I don't know what the number is.

[00:16:54] I think it's 30 because that changes the Montreal getting a second round pick this year. That's, that's over. That's over. That's over now. There's no way. He can't get it. Okay. So, okay. So he can't get it. So that doesn't matter anymore. All right. That's fine. Yeah. Like I said to you guys last night, I have confidence in both these guys. And the thing I liked about Allen is exactly what you had touched on already. It doesn't matter the situation.

[00:17:20] The man's always ready and he always comes in and plays above average. Sometimes like last night, phenomenally. It doesn't matter if it's a back to back. It doesn't matter if it's two weeks off and he's getting a spot start. He's going to play great. Markstrom hasn't gotten there, but when Markstrom is at his best and when Allen is at his best, Markstrom is a better goalie. So I want to see Markstrom in that spot.

[00:17:46] So I think you got to get Markstrom some starts and like you said, put them in against Calgary. Calgary is not a good road team. They don't score a ton of goals, but they play a type of style that gives us fits. They're, you know, liking them to the Philadelphia Flyers in the way that they, you know, block a ton of shots. They're constantly in your face. Nate Bastion gets his mug busted up every time, you know, that kind of shit, right?

[00:18:13] Like it does, does, uh, is there, is there a receipt for, um, for Lomberg on this game? I kind of hope there is, but we'll see. Um, put them in against his old team. He, was he injured when we played or he didn't get the start in Calgary. We got shut out by them. I think that was Allen in that. I think it was Markstrom. I think it was Markstrom's return to Calgary. Was it? Okay. I'm pretty certain. Yeah. But I would definitely play him.

[00:18:39] And then, like you said, depending on how Thursday night goes, I mean, if Markstrom plays good, you get a shutout, lets in one goal, something like that. Maybe you give them the start against a really hot Ottawa team that right now is just kind of taking names and going through the fucking league like butter. Can we beat them? I don't know. That's going to be a tough, the next three games are tough games for the Devils. Uh, I, I, like I said, I just, not that we're not a better team than Calgary, but they play a style that gives us fits.

[00:19:09] And how are we going to play? Um, Ottawa is Ottawa, man. They're playing some great hockey. One of the hottest teams in the East right now. That's going to be a tough, tough game. Apparently Travis green knows what he's doing and can coach. Yeah, exactly. Not definitely not Tom Fitzgerald. It took him, it took him, it took him a little while to get around. You know, this addition of cousins is really helped out kind of still a little miffed about that, but.

[00:19:36] They're poised for a run and, and then we got Vancouver. And again, you're talking about a hot Ottawa team sandwiched in the middle of two Western conference teams that are fighting for their playoff lives. So each game is going to be tough as far as the goaltenders. No matter who is starting, I'm totally comfortable with either guy because I like both our guys. Our goaltending has not been a source of any kind of anxiety for me at all this year.

[00:20:01] So, but I'm, you have to get Markstrom to that playoff form and you got about 15, 16 games to do it. So however they decide to divvy it up, I'm fine with as long as it leads to, because I don't know if we're going to get very far with Alan to ride him through a playoff. I don't know if that's his best use. And let me be clear. I wasn't suggesting that if the playoffs started tomorrow, I wouldn't go to Markstrom by default. I think to me, I still believe in that kind of flip the switch mentality, you know?

[00:20:30] Okay, so just to answer your own question, if the playoffs started tomorrow, who do you put in net? Everything being as it is right now. Now you just put the gun to my head because I had the benefit of time and giving him some games to get there. I don't anymore. I wouldn't have a problem with starting Alan in game one, depending on the matchup. Oh, okay. How about you, Tim? Right now. That's not what the case is going to be by the end of the year. No, but I'm curious.

[00:20:58] Right now, I'm starting Jake Allen. I start Markstrom. I mean, Allen's been the best goalie in the league. So for the past 20 starts, every goalie in the league, their past 20 starts, Jake Allen has been the best goalie by goal saved that I've expected. Like better than Hellebuck, better than Logan Thompson, better than every other goalie. There's no games played qualifier on that. It's over the last 20 games. It's not even unusual for some teams.

[00:21:28] They've literally gone with, you know, goalie B for the first round because of the matchup against that particular team before their other guy got back in. I mean, that kind of stuff happens. I'm not even suggesting that would be the case. I just, I agree with Tim. You know, right now, it's tomorrow. The way Allen's playing, I would give him the start. But the point I was trying to make further was that I don't care how they dice it up now, left, right, one, two. At a certain point, Markstrom's going to get his work. We're going to know where he is. You come into the weekend coming up next week.

[00:21:59] Both goalies are getting one of the Jets and Minnesota. Either way, you slice it. And those are big challenges right there because it's a back-to-back between the Jets and Minnesota. One before we have a day off. So even if you are, quote, unquote, giving Markstrom kind of the easier games here, right, just to kind of get him going again. So you give him Calgary, maybe give him Chicago. Then you're running into Jets, Minnesota, Minnesota. So it's going to be, all right, put up or shut up at that point anyway.

[00:22:23] And I do believe we have enough games left to get Markstrom back to form because ultimately, if we are going into the playoff strength to strength to strength, we want it to be Markstrom at the top of this game going in. I agree. I agree. I agree. Well, I mean, so then we go to last night's game. And, I mean, yeah, Columbus is fighting it right now. But holy shit.

[00:22:49] I mean, this was the classic goaltender stole you a fucking win because we had no business coming out of that game with two points. Not the way we played that third period. I have a question for you guys. And it's not really a question. It's just something I've noticed a lot. And I noticed it last night, too. And it still strikes me as just strange sometimes.

[00:23:13] And I understand that, you know, it's about, it's about, you know, a system and it's about, you know, but anyway, so like you go to the third period. And Columbus is owning the ozone time, right? They are just spending the entire period in our end, giving us fits. We can't get the puck out. And then we take a penalty. And now we're on a penalty kill. We're down a man. And then for two minutes, Columbus can't get into the zone. They can't get any kind of offensive zone.

[00:23:42] I'm like, they did it for 10, 12 minutes. Now we're short a guy and they can't do it. What is going on here? It always happens like that. And I can't figure it out. We see that shit on our side, too, on offense. We'll be owning the game, totally driving all the play, front foot the whole way, in the zone, possession like crazy. Then we get a power play and we don't get in the zone. It's so weird. It is. That's hockey, baby. Yeah, that's hockey, baby. It's so fucking strange to me.

[00:24:10] You know, there's so much pressure on the power play on the zone entry, right? There's a lot of pressure on it. And right now we kind of suck at that on our power play. And they were struggling with it, too. You know, you make a good read at the blue line and, you know, it can go back right the other way. You also have the luxury of being able to ice the puck, too. That's true. When you're killing a penalty. So, I don't know. It's a great question. I have no fucking idea. But they were all over us in that third.

[00:24:36] Now, the thing is, and I kind of framed this up in my recap, is like the Devils were three totally different teams in each of those periods. And, you know, kind of goes to the inconsistency. But to see that level of inconsistency across one game, like I don't think Columbus made any real adjustments or anything like that. Or I don't know what happened. I don't know if just kind of beat our guys down because Nemech wasn't playing. We were running out 5D for the most part.

[00:25:05] You know, the fourth line had a very inconsistent game. That Mercer line, aside from the sequence at the end where they pinned it down in the zone, they had an awful game. So, you know, we're kind of have, you know, Nico was getting a hard line match against, you know, Fantilli and the Russians. So, like, it's just, I don't know. It was just wildly inconsistent. And the first period was so fucking frustrating, man. Like, the amount of opportunities that they just missed flat out, missed the net. Like, I cannot believe it.

[00:25:35] And I actually looked up on MoneyPuck because they tracked this. So, the Devils are actually now third in the league in getting their shots blocked. So, they basically had the third highest percentage of getting their shots blocked. It's over 30%. So, 30% of their shot attempts get blocked. Then they're 10th worst, basically, in missing the net on shots. So, I was actually surprised by that. What do you attribute the shot blocking to? I mean, what can the team do different?

[00:26:04] Are they not recognizing when they can wait one more second and make the defender move first? Or what is that? Dude, I don't know, man. It's like, I don't know if they're just, yeah, maybe it's impatience. Maybe it's just we have bad shooters that can't find lanes. Man, I'm already frozen, like, five minutes into this. What the fuck? 25. You went pretty long. Oh, there we go. Hey, all right. Him never goes 25 minutes. Never make it this far. We're on our third show already.

[00:26:37] I don't know, man. It's the amount of times we just fire the puck right into shin guards. You know, I don't know if we're just taking too many low danger shots that, like, are trying to be seeing eye shots through traffic. If we're trying to create traffic in front and then that creates us hitting people or getting shots blocked. I don't know. It's just very hard to comprehend because it's one thing if we were a shot blocking team, you understand that that's something we're doing. To be third in the league in shots that are blocked, you're playing every team.

[00:27:05] So, I'm starting to think that turns to the offense needing to make an adjustment. Not all 30 teams just figured out, hey, we all know how to shot block the Devils. And it's not like we're first in shot attempts by a wide margin. We're not. We're, like, tenth in shot attempts. So, it's not like, you know, we're just shooting so much that a large portion of them are just getting blocked. You know, that's kind of Carolina's up there in the number of shots blocked, too. But that's their MO. You know, they're just, you know, shot spammers. So, I don't know. It's weird.

[00:27:35] And I keep going back to this thing, you know, when we were talking about our scoring issues and our depth scoring issues. Like, we just have, like, maybe, like, a collection of just, like, oddly bad shooters. I don't know. It's really weird. I'll tell you, and I'm sure we're going to get to it with the kind of fortuitous bounce for Jesper Bratt. And I know he earned his position. I saw that in your thing, too. But anybody else thought right away when that shot went off that he was missing the net? Like, no offense to him.

[00:28:04] I just, this is, like, what happens to the Devils. Oh, yeah. I didn't even see it go in. I was, like, this isn't going in. It was a tough angle, too. It wasn't, like, a tap-in. It was, you know, a decent angle. But, yeah, I got nervous. That would have been the thing that happens to us is just, like, he misses that shot this season. We're pinged. God damn thing. Yeah. That again, yeah. Yeah, that was one of the loudest posts I've ever heard when he ripped that off the post. You know, even Mercer, you know, last night had a couple really good looks and missed the net. There were a few guys. A lot. A lot.

[00:28:34] A lot. You know, there was a few guys that just, you know, in the first period alone, you're taking away three to four really quality high-danger scoring chances because you didn't even get it on net. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's trying to be too fine and hit the corners. But sometimes, you know, like, there's a thing in hockey called a pass-off pad, right? You know, which basically, you know, you shoot for the rebound. Like, it's okay to generate rebounds. You know, like, you put it right in the guy's chest, like, he's going to swallow that up.

[00:29:01] Like, you know, you don't want to do that or you're trying to be too fine and pick the corners. Especially when you have a guy who hasn't played much like we did last night. You know, I feel like the two goals that went in, you know, were just one was just hardworking. Timo Myers not going to be denied. And, you know, nobody's getting moving him off that puck and he finishes. The other one was the goaltender misplaying it, like you said. And Brett, other than that, like, we didn't, he didn't have to do Jake Allen type shit last night.

[00:29:31] And we kind of made it a little easy for him. And we were lucky enough that Allen was there. He made one pretty good save and I forget who it was on. But other than that, yeah, like, we're not, you know, we talked about this before. The sort of when people were saying we got goalied, like, eh, we didn't. You know, like, like we're kind of just making it easy on the goalies. You know, we're not. The only game I'll say that we definitely got goalied in was the last Columbus game. Yes. Not the one we won at home. The last one in Columbus that Mercer just got the shutout. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be right back.

[00:30:01] I'm going to refresh. Yeah. And actually, so while he's gone, Bob, I'm going to just. Does this change your opinion on the goaltending situation? I have the numbers career wise for both guys against our next three opponents. So I'm just going to read them off. And you guys, you tell me if it Tim real quick. Is this saying to Bobby? I have the numbers for both our goaltenders careers versus the next three opponents that we play.

[00:30:29] Do these numbers change your opinion on anything or not? So the next game is Calgary. Jake Allen is 11, six and one career against Calgary. He has a two five one goals against and a nine 18 save percentage. Jacob Markstrom career versus Calgary is five wins, 10 losses, 334 goals against and an eight 96 save percentage. So his numbers are not good against his former team.

[00:31:00] And then we go Ottawa. Jake, uh, Jacob Allen is seven, six and two with a two eight eight goals against and a nine nine five save percentage. And Jacob Markstrom is six, seven and three with a two four nine goals against and a nine 11 save percentage. So both guys have pretty decent numbers. Um, even though Markstrom's numbers are better, he has a losing record at six, seven and three. So I don't know if that matters to you guys.

[00:31:28] And then Vancouver, Jake Allen is nine, seven and three with a two seven, three goals against and a nine hundred save percentage. Markstrom is 12, six and two with a two point four goals against and a nine 13 save percentage. So does his five, 10 and oh, with a three 34 goals against average and eight 96 save percentage. Does that make you change your mind at all?

[00:31:55] Or at least think a little bit more about putting Allen in against Calgary? No, not for me. I, you know, I think their career numbers against those teams, you know, particularly because Markstrom played for Calgary for so long. I imagine the bulk of those are when he was on Vancouver and maybe a little bit of Florida. Um, I don't think Vancouver was very good when he was on those, some of those teams. Um, so, you know, there's some team context there, but, um, I don't know, unless he doesn't

[00:32:23] like the logo or, you know, the colors are too bright. The logo is awesome. I'll say the second best logo in all of sports, but at least in hockey. Uh, but no, I still think, you know, current, in our current situation, our current context, you know, give Markstrom the game against Calgary, then you go Allen, then, you know, you kind of decide from there. Optically, the only one that really gives you pause is Markstrom against Calgary. Um, but for everything we discussed and what Tim just said to you, I just think that's the

[00:32:52] game, you know, season to season, it's a different situation. Um, poor road team, not very good right now. I think that's definitely the game that you want to give Markstrom. And if anything, this kind of helps me line up where I thought we were going to go anyway, where you go Markstrom next, give Allen the start against Ottawa, and then you're back to Markstrom in Vancouver, which at home against Vancouver, and he has really good numbers against him. So it kind of lines everything up for me. There you go. Bobby's right. As always. Oh, you got to get Markstrom in there. You got to get him feeling good.

[00:33:21] And we all know what a competitor he is. He doesn't like to lose. You know that that Pittsburgh game, not only did that Pittsburgh game probably piss him off, but not getting the start last night, probably pissed him off even more, which is great because now you got your former team coming in. We need two points. Go out there and win the game. And we'll see. I agree. Those numbers wouldn't bother me at all. Like, I wouldn't even question that. Like, to me, if Oakland's 5'10 and 0, who gives a shit? Put them in. It's all like to have memories, too, man.

[00:33:50] Even the fact that his homecoming to Calgary didn't go anywhere near as planned, right? I know I'd remember that and be like, I am kicking their ass at the Rock next time. You know what I mean? That's right. You asked an interesting question before. I wonder. And I almost think that Lomberg's too small. Like, I don't think they put McDermott in the lineup for that. It's because Lomberg's too fucking small. Like, if it was like another... If it was a bigger dude... Who do we sick after Lomberg, then? I don't know. It's like... I got a guy.

[00:34:20] You got a guy? Yeah. I know we're not fans of him. No, or Kovacevic. You know... No, because you're saying he's kind of... He's small, Lomberg. So let's have a middleweight fight. So here's... Eric Holla to drop the foot and close with Lomberg. That's what I was going to say is Holla. Yeah. And my issue with one of Dylan or Kovacevic taking it is they probably are two best defensive defensemen right now. Right. With Luke and Pesci, obviously.

[00:34:46] And putting one of those guys, particularly Kovacevic on the right side, in the box for five minutes really kind of hurts us. You know... I don't know what the fuck we're going to do with Nemec, man. Like, he is just not... He just doesn't have it right now. And it's getting increasingly worrisome. I still believe in him. He didn't forget how to play hockey, but he just absolutely looks like an absolute shell of himself. You know, he didn't get a shift after, like, ten minutes in the third period.

[00:35:13] I'm glad you brought him up because I don't like him. I mean, you guys know this. I don't hide it. I'm not a fan. And, you know, you're 100% right. He hasn't forgotten how to play hockey. This is what bothers me. It apparently is between his fucking ears. And that is a problem. Because it's, you know, the guy... Like, we've talked about it a million times. I know every Devil fan kind of has, right?

[00:35:40] You made a point to tell management that you fucking deserve to be here. Right? I'm not going to say he asked for a trade. He did this. No. He just let Fitz and Keeper know, I deserve that shot. I can do the job. Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play. Are you, though? Are you really? Because he's not very good. And I don't know what it is going on between his ears. But, like, everybody else on that defensive core plays the system.

[00:36:10] And he kind of does whatever the hell he wants out there. It's just... It's mind-boggling to me. It's just... And I get why he was seeded, you know, the rest of the time. And maybe Seamus Casey doesn't give you that defensive first kind of mentality. But Seamus Casey's very coachable. He brings a lot to the game when he's on the ice. At this point, with 15, 16 games left until Siegenthaler comes back, why is Nemitz the guy?

[00:36:38] I don't want him to be. I'd rather it be Casey. Bob, what do you think? Well, first off, I absolutely have not given up on him either. It just might not be the year that he can be inserted into this and become what he's supposed to be. And to clarify, I love the next level up mentality of athletes. I think you all have to have it. I think you need that private confidence. But I did have a huge issue with the way that he stated what he stated.

[00:37:06] Like, you keep that shit in the room, maybe with your coaches and stuff. You don't put that in the press and have it so everybody can hear it. So, yeah, I know every AHL, ECHL, college kid even should say I have what it takes to get to the NHL. That's driving. I get that. But when you're going to come out and publicly state something like that and then clearly look not ready, you're not missing a beat once in a while. You're really just kind of getting to the new term I learned from Tim this year, dog walked. Right? I don't know.

[00:37:36] I just don't think him being inserted into this lineup with this pressure this year is where he'd need to be in his development. It's kind of the same thing with last year where he kind of came up and by de facto you're playing the whole year. Right? And it wasn't a very good year. And then we seemingly solved our defensive issues only to see a bunch of defenders go down again. That being said, if he didn't come up at all this year, would it be a magic bullet for next year? Would he just pop on the scene and be what he's expected to be?

[00:38:04] I don't know because the sample I'm seeing is confusing. I do know that I would not want to give up on him for sure. I'd want to get through the summer, see what happens, put him back into development next year and go from there. And everybody keeps talking about this injury that he had in the Olympic qualifier. Like, that was in September. Like, come on. Like, you know, you're a professional athlete. You can't let an injury that happened seven months ago derail your entire year.

[00:38:33] Because he looks healthy enough. I mean, it doesn't look like an injury is holding him back. No. And he was cooking in the AHL too. It's just so frustrating. I don't know if he's not grasping something, if he's just a mental midget, if he's playing himself out of the team on purpose, which would be a ridiculous thing to do. But we might see the Chalowski experiment again on Thursday. I mean, to me, I would rather see Casey. But I get you went and made a move about Chalowski here. He's going to get the starts. I understand that. I'm just – that's a personal preference.

[00:39:03] I agree. I'd much rather give Casey this time than – But I don't think that's going to happen. Chalowski was an AHL or two. It's like, why the fuck are we giving this guy NHL time over one of our premier prospects? I mean, I would be fine if I woke up tomorrow morning and heard that Nemitz was sent down, Casey was brought up, and him and Chalowski, whatever the fuck his name is, are 7th, 6th and 7th D. Like, I'd have no problem with that. Mike Wazowski? Mike Wazowski and Seamus Casey.

[00:39:32] But, no, I get what you guys are saying, that you're not ready to give up on him. I get that. I don't think that management is going to give up on him because, if anything, even to the least amount of reason why, he was a number two pick, right? No GM is going to just jettison a number two pick because it makes you look really fucking bad that you are now getting rid of him. Alex Holtz getting traded made Fitz look bad. I was going to say we've already jettisoned the seven picks. Right.

[00:40:01] So, you know, he's not going to, unless it is a godfather offer and big things coming the other way, I think we are stuck with Nemitz. Do I think he's ever going to be able to play in this league? I don't know. I don't know. He's shown me nothing. Like, I mean, and last year, like, I was willing to, the whole defensive core was shit last year, so I wasn't going to pin it all on him. But when your defensive core has gotten as good as ours is, when you do have that super weak link, man, it fucking shows.

[00:40:28] Well, but like last year, he wasn't, you know, he wasn't really a problem. Like, he showed maturity beyond his years last year and did a lot of, like, you know, just these little tactical things that are just so advanced that guys his age shouldn't be doing. And he was doing them really well. You know, a lot of puck control stuff. He's just, he's fighting the puck. He's fighting the system. He's fighting everything. I don't know. I don't know. It's absolutely baffling.

[00:40:56] But to your point, like, I think, you know, sending him down and bringing up Casey, you know, I don't know what Utica situation is right now. Like if they're like fighting for a playoff swap, but you don't think they could use Nemec right now to kind of help solidify that. It sucks. It sucks that we're having this conversation about another first round pick. You never guaranteed a spot in the NHL. Like the NHL will let you know when you're not good enough to be here.

[00:41:26] And it will tell you and it will kick you out unless you're Andre Palat. Then you just kind of get to ride through it. But like if you have to go down, you have to go down. That's it. Just go fix your shit. And if you're still there and if you still have the prospect ability, then it should eventually come out. And if it doesn't, Alex Holtz is a perfect example of maybe just something between the ears. It's just, it ain't working, kid. Like you were great up to that level. NHL is not for you.

[00:41:51] And it may be time, you know, before he gets to the point where we're trading him for like, you know, a borderline, third line, fourth line player like Cotter or something. He still has a little equity. Or he still has a little equity. He still has a little value. Like, you know, Jirasek who got traded last year got a whole bunch of futures. So he could still be the centerpiece of a forward trade this upcoming year, which I wouldn't object to at all. I would bet that's coming this summer. The NHL stands for not here long, Shimon. Take a hike.

[00:42:20] NHL is not a development league. Exactly. So go to the developmental league and bring Seamus Casey up, a guy who has chemistry with the dudes on the bench. I don't know how Nemich's relationship is with the guys in the dressing room. I mean, I'm sure it's fine. But Nemich, I mean, he got a pretty good when they when Keith mentioned his in one of his postgame speeches. Yeah, he got a big cheer. He got a good pop in the locker room. So this guy's being supportive, too. Yeah.

[00:42:49] I know he's going through it. But, you know, yes, he is going through it. But again, last year you were willing, especially by this time last year, you were willing to eat the mistakes. You weren't making the playoffs. You're like, OK, NHL is not a developmental league. But if we're not making the playoffs, you know, keep them up. And he played for the most part. He was in a lot of really bad situations last year.

[00:43:11] The Devils were rarely on the front foot with a lead and, you know, a comfortable lead where they can kind of play a smart, defensive minded style. He's never really kind of had that, I don't think. So now maybe that's what's holding him up. Maybe he's just not used to that, this system. But for whatever reason, there's just I have no desire to see him.

[00:43:39] And like you look at Luke, who has a clearly like an elite toolkit and has kind of a couple of has like a brain fart game every 10 games. Now it used to be a brain fart game, four out of 10 games. Now it's like one out of 10. Nemich, I saw some some of that elite toolkit last year. Now I don't see any of it. I don't see anything at all. Like he's just plain scared. Like the goal that everybody shat on him against Pittsburgh. I don't really see it necessarily as 100% his fault. He probably could have done something differently.

[00:44:08] But but it just like it was kind of a weak clearance attempt at the boards. Like it just you know what? My problem wasn't the clear. My problem was after the puck was turned over, what he did was just not getting in front of the net, not trying to. He was just standing next to the guy that just hit him. And it wasn't even like moving his feet. Like that's the thing that got me like you just turned the puck over, try and do something whenever this is not the first time this year where like something bad has happened.

[00:44:36] And he just like stands in one spot and pissed off about it or whatever. Like I don't know. Oh, that's fair. Well, that's that particular you're correct about him kind of admiring his mistakes almost. Yeah. And admiring, you know, he kind of admire shit a little bit too much. Which that particular situation, it was kind of an awkward little mini two on one on him that there's not much he can do about it. But anyway, we can move on. We can talk about Timo's goal so I can bask in my glory.

[00:45:06] Timo's a stud. Let's just start. No, there's anything else about Nemes that we want to wrap up? No, I think we kind of I think we kind of bury him. You guys like him. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, look, as far as the Devils now, I mean, it's it's it's team's going to go as far as Timo and Brat and Nico take them. Like, I just think that that's it. That's that's who we got to ride. Yeah.

[00:45:36] Before Tim basks in the glow of his only Timo prediction that he heats up in March. Did you hear anybody else saying back in December that Timo gets hot in March? Like only Tim. He was the only one. And why did you not write an article about that or something? I know. It's like I did and nobody read it. Timo is actually looking great. I just want to give props real quick to Jesper Brat.

[00:46:05] Almost like not an apology. I don't deserve that because there was there was times where we needed him to step up and be the man. And he didn't. And it was for a lot of times. It was an entire playoff series. Other times we've heard. But he is the man right now. He is definitely stepping up, taking this opportunity. He's making me feel a lot better going to the playoffs, missing some of the players we are than I would have before. To see Jesper Brat doing this is fantastic. Now, I 100 percent agree with you.

[00:46:34] And that's the thing about Brat is I think watching him now over the course of the next six, seven years, however long he's going to be on this team, I think you can generally expect him to be better every single year. Like, I mean, this guy and I like I said, we know this for a fact. His off seasons, all he does, mind, body, everything. How do I become a better hockey player, a better person?

[00:46:58] I've never seen anybody take this sport or anything as serious as Jesper Brat takes being a hockey player. And yeah, I mean, yeah, he's a hockey fucking cyborg. And you're 100 percent right. Like he knew that there were times like, all right, Jack's out. I have to be the guy. And you're right. He wasn't this time. He wasn't going to let that happen, man. I really don't. And I'm confident that this is Jesper Brat now going moving forward this year. But I hope he gets 100 points.

[00:47:26] So like, honestly, at the rate he's going right now, he still kind of has an outside chance. I think he's definitely going to hit 90 at least, which is wild. So if I was talking about like a couple months ago, like mid-January, when everybody was slumping, he wasn't really kind of popping on the score sheet. I think he misses that empty net. I think he hits the post. If he gets that opportunity in January, I think he hits the post or misses the net. But last night, he's just feeling like that was a that's a tough angle. Puck was on its edge.

[00:47:53] Like it was he didn't like catch it and handle it. I'm with Bob. Like I didn't know it went in at first. I was. Oh, shit. We did score. Yeah. You know, and I still disagree about how we played in the playoffs two years ago. But whatever. I think maybe two empty netters really would have done it. Like, is that is that where?

[00:48:19] No, I just because we played seven of the 12 games against, you know, one of the best goalies in the league. Two of those seven games, we got absolutely fucking pummeled as a team. Arguably, arguably definitely a small sample size. We all know that. We're not going to tear apart a player for one. It was really one playoff series because as far as I was concerned, Carolina just mopped the floor with us. But it was that in conjunction with other times in his career where it was like step up time and he didn't.

[00:48:48] That's what got us saying this in years past. And even this year, we didn't say it that often. Even throughout this year. Once in a while, we'd be like, I'd really like to see him step up. But it's not like we were vilifying him, which we had kind of done a year or two before. We had. He has to be much better. I think the playoffs, I was ready to trade him. I didn't care. I was like, we got to move on. He was your BFF for a couple weeks in the summer. He's a really, really nice guy. He really is just like a super person.

[00:49:14] You're like, hey, don't listen to this episode of my podcast. I don't think we need to worry about that. I never even told him this podcast exists. Good. Yeah, that's the last thing we need is for these guys to find out we exist. It's just like the 12 of us. It's just our little secret. Like you all know who you are, but that's it. Anyway, moving on from that. Yeah, so yeah, it's good to see these guys. I like the chemistry that Bratt and Glass have. And I touched on it a little bit in my recap.

[00:49:44] Glass, another guy. Is everyone that Bratt's played with over his career, and I just kind of cherry-picked a few names from really kind of when he started popping off when he put up that first 70-point season. Nico, Timo, Sharon Govich, Jack, even Toffoli to an extent. Taylor Hall, like I wouldn't put Taylor Hall because Taylor Hall was before Bratt really started popping off. But when Bratt started popping off, you look at like his metrics with and without those players.

[00:50:13] Every single one of them to a man is better when Bratt, when they're with Bratt than they are without Bratt. It's a pretty fascinating thing. And one of the things, like Bratt, I think Jack is very hard to play with. I think Bratt is very easy to play with. And I think he's very adaptable in the hockey cyborg sense. Like he's very smart about where he's supposed to be. And Bryce was talking about that in terms of his positioning on that empty nutter. Yeah.

[00:50:43] That's the end of my story. No, it's a perfect example when he brought up the difference between kind of him and Jack. When I was thinking of Bratt and why he would be someone who's easy to play with in a way because he's so shifty and he gets in there and he's so untouchable in the zone. And then just have to look at this year's assists to know it's obvious he knows how to get the puck to the open man. So yeah, you could see how playing with him, he makes you better, you know, because he finds you and he's one of those untouchable guys when he's in the zone dancing around.

[00:51:12] It's very much like Jack in that way where he could just kind of dart through people. Yeah. Sorry, go ahead, Chris. No, I was just going to say like next year when Jack is healthy again, like I would seriously consider, you know, keeping Bratt and Glass together, like whether or not Hughes is on that line, you know, whatever. But like Cody Glass is very, very smart and feeds exactly like these guys play super well together.

[00:51:38] And it started like the first game and you saw just two really smart hockey players and you put, put two really smart, good hockey players together. They're going to find ways to do good things. And I just think Cody Glass, that could be a perfect fit, not for the Devils, for just for Bratt to keep him going without Jack. Like I think Glass has a lot to do with that. But he's even like hollows, even a brand new fucking guy. Like it's, it's wild.

[00:52:06] Like we fucking missed him in the Pittsburgh game. I'm sorry. Like I'm in the third period. I'm like, I can't believe this shit, but hollow should have been in the fucking lineup. We maybe went out of shot. I think Daniel's wrong is turning out to be kind of a dud. Daniel wrong. That was just such a bad joke. It's not like they're, you know, swinging for the fences, you know, and not glass is looking really good.

[00:52:33] Glass is one of those situations where you could take, you know, a very good solid, but otherwise maybe what above, slightly above average hockey player and gel him with somebody else. And then you can start having career performances. Like you don't have to be like what you're not. If you're paired with the right people, which is why so many of us, myself included are always like with the line combinations for me, it's more about kind of the two person, you know, teams and the three.

[00:53:01] And we talk about Sikora all the time, like nothing against Sikora. Like I love Sikora as a hockey player. He was, he was a great hockey player, but he was a benefactor of the third person on that line. There's just no doubt about it. Arnaut and Elias draw that line. Yeah. I mean, I like, I like that. Even Marty McSorley is like, you guys know I played with Curry and Gretzky too. He's like, no, shut up, asshole. Yeah. So yeah, we're going to staple McDermott the Jacks wing next year.

[00:53:27] And not to get too ahead of ourselves, but I like that Timo Niko Nason line. I think, you know, that, that should kind of stick around. And we leave. He needs to wake up. Oh, he needs to start scoring some goals. He got taken off first power play for whatever reason. Yeah, that's right. They swapped him and Mercer. I have no fucking idea why. No idea why. Mercer doesn't, Mercer doesn't, Mercer doesn't deserve that. What are we doing here? That's like chicken and the egg situation. Maybe he went a little cold. So then they make a change and then he's not there anymore. And now he's not scoring anywhere.

[00:53:57] So they don't want to put him back. I would just put him back. It's nothing like the chicken and egg situation. What are you talking about? Which came first? The chicken and egg came first. Which came first? You said it's like. Did he go cold five on five and they took him off? Or did he take him off? And then he went cold. Right. Oh, I'd say that's what you're doing. Okay. Yeah, dude. So it's exactly like the chicken and the egg. Okay. That's what they said. Well, yeah. There is actually a pretty solid analogy, Chris. I just misheard him. I mean, I wasn't listening.

[00:54:25] If literally the playoffs started tomorrow, that's a change I make. Nathan, you're back on power play one. Maybe it's sort of philosophically the second power play is more like let's just hammer the puck towards the net and Nathan sitting net front has our best net front hands. I don't know. I really don't know. But Mercer's worthless. And I have one complaint about the power play. And then we can move on to a double. You know, do we have a double in now? I do. Oh, awesome.

[00:54:53] So I just this is just a gripe and I'm probably unwarranted and not you guys are probably not going to agree with it. But I really want to see Luke Hughes start doing more on this fucking power play. He needs to stop with the fucking back pass, letting them take take it in yourself, dude. Out of all those guys on that unit, you're the best skater. Maybe you and Brad. But you're right there is one of the best skaters and puck handlers. Bring the puck in, man. Start causing some issues down there.

[00:55:20] And I want to see him generate the offense. And then just on the rush. You get some help. You can go back to your point and you can quarterback it. But I just want to see him on the rush just at one time start taking it in more. It's funny you mentioned that because I wanted to bring this up earlier. When Tim kind of explained that slingshot, whatever you call it, right? Entry, zone entry. And I've noticed anyway, maybe I'm wrong. That slingshot has gotten a lot longer. Yeah. Like the last little while.

[00:55:49] Luke's really bad at it and telegraphs it. And what game was it where he basically just handed it to someone on the other team? Because for some reason, he turns around and throws it on his forehead. And when Dougie was doing it, he and Luke's doing that at the red line or the offensive blue line. Dougie's doing it at our blue line. So basically, the philosophy is that so here's Luke, right? And he passed it back. And it's slingshot. He passed it back. And then these guys slingshot over him. Right. And then Luke's at the point. And these guys are in.

[00:56:17] It kind of theoretically saves 15 seconds of setting up in zone, supposedly. But Luke's just so bad at it. He's so bad at it. Like dropping Allen. But to your point, Chris, like I want to see him fake it or just blow through the entire fucking team. Exactly. Like it's almost like he has instructions where he's not allowed to because he almost forgets about it at the offensive blue line. He's like through the whole team, offensive blue line. Then he turns around. He did it once when he was in the zone already.

[00:56:47] 100% ready. Out of the zone. It's like, what are you doing, man? Like he's stopping. Like, oh, shit, I'm supposed to drop this back. Yeah. He's just so bad at it. Like you can. You have all the tools, man. Go fucking do it. And like I said, just, you know, one rush. That's it. Jump back and quarterback the fucking thing. We don't need you up there the whole time. But just to get the run, get the ozone pressure started, the ozone entry. Jack's not on the team. As far as I think, I think Luke is the second best on this team at entries. Why is he not doing it?

[00:57:17] I don't know. All right. Got a demo you now? I do. Hopefully you guys haven't done him before. We'll see. Shall we play a game? Buckle up, boys and girls. It is time for The Devil You Know on the Uncle Pucker New Jersey Devil Podcast.

[00:57:39] There are a few things that will always make me happy. That gaster at the end of that will always make me happy. I still can't get over that it's a real fart. Sometimes I just listen to it.

[00:58:00] A real fart on a real podcast. I love it. Farts are always fun. They always will be. This is The Devil You Know, the game that shows just how unbelievably fucking brilliant we all are as far as the Devils and their former players. Tonight, Tim will give us clues to a former New Jersey Devil player.

[00:58:29] Their only rule is that they can no longer be playing. Myself and Bobby get the guess. We get three incorrect guesses before we are eliminated. And that's about it. We can ask him any question we want. He can or cannot answer. It's totally up to him. And that's it, Timmy. Take it over. Let's go. All right. So this former Devil, he was born in 1964 in Providence, Rhode Island, growing up in nearby Warwick, Rhode Island.

[00:58:59] This former Devil was drafted in the fifth round by the New Jersey Devils. Can't be, can it? I'm already thinking that, too. I'm not going there yet. He had a 14-year career for four different teams, including the Devils, San Jose, the Islanders, and the Chicago Blackhawks. Hmm. While he was at Providence College. Wait, wait, wait. Isles, Blackhawks, Devils. San Jose and the Devils. San Jose. Got it.

[00:59:25] While at Providence College, he was the MVP of the 1985 Hockey East postseason, the NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player, and the 84-85 Hockey East Player of the Year. What year was he drafted? I didn't say. Oh, okay. There's only a couple guys I know with that Providence connection because I went to school in Providence. Oh, that's, fuck. I forgot about that shit. But I'm not guessing yet. I didn't go to school at Providence College. All right.

[00:59:54] So he debuted with the Devils after that in 1986-87 and played seven games that year. Throughout his Devils career, he played 302 games and had seven assists. He also had three different stints with the team, including two of our cups. In his career, through those four teams, he had 406 games played and had 13 assists and zero goals.

[01:00:20] In 1990-1991, he finished 13th in Lady Bing trophy voting. Sean Chambers? No. He was a coach in the Devils system before getting relieved of his duties in July 2017. Did you tell me how it was? I mean, this goaltender is 5'9". Yeah. Chris Tererri.

[01:00:50] The assists were throwing me off, dude. I had no idea the guy had that many points. I know. I did that. I did that on purpose. I had this in, like, question five, and I'm like, wait a minute. Points? What the hell are you talking about? Wait, three different stints? Yeah. He was drafted by the Devils, and he was traded to San Jose. Then he went back, and then was traded, I think, from back to Chicago or the Islanders, and then back to the Devils. So, Lou brought him back three times. I didn't know that he was three times. Lou was his AD at Providence College. Yeah. That's what threw me off.

[01:01:20] I'm like, Tererri wasn't three, and I couldn't think of anybody else. Excellent way to disguise the player with your questions. That's exactly what we try to do when we do this. That's perfect. You were definitely leading us on a – I was really sorry. I was wondering if you were like – I had the investment in my head. I'm like, yeah. Well, and if I – so my next one was this goaltender stood 5'9", it weighed 155. There you go. And during the next time –

[01:01:47] The Providence College connection is obviously we know Lou was there, and I know there have been other players that ran through there. But being born in Rhode Island was kind of like, all right, this is narrowing it down. Yeah. Next week's W. Good job, Bob. And all right. So anything else you guys want to add? You want to do – I mean, we're going to do another show probably before the Calgary game on Thursday. So I figured – See if we get any AHL transactions.

[01:02:16] We can do all our predictions. Yeah. If anything happens, of course, you know, like Seamus Casey rejoining the team, we'll definitely be talking about that. Anything else you want to share about it? Now that the sun went down, I kind of look like sprockets. No, you look a little bit like a hostage video a little. It's very dark behind you. Please save me. No, we don't. Maryland Farm. Just a PSA to, like, be up on your rules when you have kids in various sports.

[01:02:43] So, for example, my kid is in 10U hockey, right? One game away from the finals if they beat the puking goalie that destroyed them the last game, right? I could have looked this up, but I didn't. I watched a whole season of them killing penalties, and I'm just sitting there constantly saying, why are they just firing it down the fucking ice? Like, stop. No icing, right? No icing, right? Even when you're on a penalty in this level, you can't ice the puck either way.

[01:03:12] I don't know this. Thank God I'm not, like, the shout from the stands. Right. You can't embarrass yourself like that. When you're in trouble, this is the first thing I know. You just throw that puck out of the zone. Like, why no one's doing it. They're constantly skating it out of the zone or just doing these little dumps. I got to read the rules. They're not allowed to do that. I got to take off because I'm about to hopefully take a little dump. So we're going to wrap this thing up. Got a turtle head poking out here.

[01:03:42] What did my son say the other day? Oh, God. I can't even remember it right now, but it was some stupid metaphor for taking a shit, and I was cracking up. He's like, you never heard that before? I was like, no, I never fucking heard that. I can't remember what it is, but I got to let you know as soon as I remember. All right. We are going to get out of here wherever you're listening to us. And like a five-star review, a positive comment. If you're watching on the YouTube channel, subscribe and whatever other buttons you can press there. We really appreciate it. We're the Uncle Puckers.

[01:04:11] Poor Bobby and Tim. I'm Chris. Hang on. I want to check one quick thing. And hang on. We're not leaving yet. What are we checking, Tim? Valicate, your fucking loser-ass team is tied with the Flames. You guys fucking suck. Nobody likes you. What's the score? 1-1. All right. Let's go, Flames. It's over, Johnny. It's over.

[01:04:45] It's over.